My mk1 V8 (4.2 340bhp Audi AHC with 6 speed) [Archive] - Page 6

Paul Woods

19-06-2010, 20:05

Today was a good day, no more wiring my engine up to a battery on the floor, the engine is now fully integrated into the car and it now starts up off the key. I still have lots of wiring to do but all of my major signals are fed to the dashboard now. Alternator is hooked up and charging well and all of the cars circuits are alive now.

My Vems is now safely located out of the engine bay away from the 8 cylinder inferno just behind the drivers seat....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/06/62.jpg

I have left my serial port connector in the bay for mapping, I have an extension lead for it to reach the cockpit of need be. I might make a little bracket for the port if i run out of jobs to do.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/06/63.jpg

Lastly i heat shielded all of my engine harness where it runs near the exhaust, i really am giving this as much attention as possible in the heat dept.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/06/64.jpg

Torero

19-06-2010, 22:34

Topjob Paul:thumbsup:. Are you using additional heat sinks in the engine bay? The reflective surfaces should give a heat sink plenty to drag out before it is absorbed in the engine bay hardware.

John.

Paul Woods

20-06-2010, 10:19

I think all i need to add now is fans to the engine lid and it should be there heat wise.

nik

20-06-2010, 10:39

sooooo jae then?

Paul Woods

20-06-2010, 10:52

I'd love it to be ready mate, but there is still a ton to do, i really want the bodywork sorting first, but if i really stick into it i might just have it ready.

nik

20-06-2010, 11:07

you know we need it there in whatever form you can manage..!

snowtigger

20-06-2010, 11:16

stop nagging him dude your worse than a wife, it will be ready when its ready if he doesnt get half a ton of phone calls and people turning up at his works and he gets stuck into it then maybe jae.

worse thing you can do is rush a job in the finale stages of completion, i have every faith that paul will try his best to be there so he can have his customary two pints and look sick as a dog but with a stupid grin on his mush that hes completed it finaly.

Paul Woods

20-06-2010, 11:38

It's ok Tiggs, he's my wife now...

http://www.theswarmite.com/wp-content/uploads/Images/vasey_05_400x267.jpg

snowtigger

20-06-2010, 12:51

Did he give you his ring then bet it was carbon brown.

Paul Woods

25-06-2010, 18:58

Now that the engine dept is almost finished i've turned attention to getting brakes on this thing. I've been hoarding these parts for years so they are a little rusty but i will work some magic on them once i've got them working.

First i fitted my new master cylinder i got from Gouky, it's a 1" Toyota Van one, although many other Toyota's share the same bore and fitment. The stock Mk1 MC is 7/8ths so this 1" unit will move more fluid to my four pot calipers and reducing pedal travel. I had to reverse the reservoir as this is a RHD car (MC is from a USDM LHD car) to stop it fouling the brake pipes.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/06/101.jpg

The reason for needing more fluid movement is these Porsche 996 calipers, i made my own adapters to bolt them to the hub and i have used a BMW 325mm disc redrilled to 4x100 PCD and a hubcentric spigot ring inserted courtesy of AH-CNC, i need to clean them up a little and paint the calipers but otherwise done.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/06/102.jpg

This should be ample up front to stop the Mk1 V8.

snowtigger

25-06-2010, 20:17

ooooh am liking the brakes paul do you think there as good as the st205 conversion?

And i hope you put my package to one side with the pile of bits for my conversion?

Paul Woods

25-06-2010, 20:31

I couldn't fit st205's with my Azev's Tiggs, they were just too wide and hit my spokes, these Porsche calipers fit with about 2mm spare. I would have gone 205 if they would fit, wheel choice is crucial with those calipers.

Your conversion bits are safely here.

hmmmmm

25-06-2010, 20:55

If it sounds anything like this on the road, i'd be a happy bunny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmkOjyGDm-U

Yeah awesome sound, and company from Holland so im sold :)

Paul did you check what this thing is going to cost on car insurance?

Paul Woods

25-06-2010, 20:58

Insurance? Not a problem so i'm told.

PaulM

25-06-2010, 22:38

Mine was quoted by Ollie at sub £1100 with 0 no claims, basically thay priced it as an audi S8. A plan was much more expensive IIRC

snowtigger

25-06-2010, 23:03

Sounds good those brakes I wonder how hard is it to buy 996 callipers goes of to hunt the fleabay.

Paul Woods

25-06-2010, 23:39

They cost me £200 about 5 years ago, only just using them now!

dgh938peg

26-06-2010, 07:37

Nothing but impressed Paul! Porsche calipers is pretty bespoke!

Clarky_X

26-06-2010, 09:09

I love Porsche. (should I say that here) those callipers are great but what made you stick with your wheels and not change them?

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Desire predictive issues

Paul Woods

26-06-2010, 09:39

Yeah i love my deep dish Azevs, they just suit the car perfectly and i have a lot of money tied up in them. They aren't very caliper clearance friendly due to the spoke design and offset but they allow me a 10" rear width and just look fantastic on the car. I need to refurb them first though.

Cheers Dan, radial mount calipers are pretty easy to adapt and fit though, i've used 12mm thick plate, high tensile shouldered bolts and threadlocked the adapters onto the hub.

Paul Woods

26-06-2010, 17:22

A couple of pics of my caliper adaptor brackets, i made these by bolting a plate to the hub, and a plate to the caliper which was aligned perfectly onto the disc, then the two plates were welded together. I V'd the plates both sides for maximum penetration and then added the end gussets for support afterwards. The hub mounting has the stock bolt thread tapped into it and the caliper mounting has a 1.5x12 thread on its high tensile bolt which has a close fitting shoulder inside the caliper.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/06/89.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/06/103.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/06/104.jpg

snowtigger

26-06-2010, 19:21

And how much pray tell is this service if one was to procure a set of 996 callipers and BMW disc.

Pm me mate if you like, how much did the discs come in at also and do you need special brake lines makeing?

Paul Woods

27-06-2010, 10:11

There is not a lot of labour cost involved to be honest Tiggs, a few hours per corner.

My discs where £100 each and Renault 5 turbo braided lines with new hardpipes run from caliper to strut bracket works perfectly.

Paul Woods

28-06-2010, 19:34

Calipers now painted with VHT caliper paint, pads fitted too...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/06/105.jpg

A quick pic of my Azevs over the top of the brakes, these are 17" rims to give an idea of the size, i think they fill the rims quite well.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/06/106.jpg

snowtigger

28-06-2010, 20:34

they look spot on there paul loving the azevs, just a quick question is there any differance between the different colors of porsche calipers as so far ive seen yellow, red and bluey grey ones for sale, ive put dibs on some red ones so by the end of the week i should know if its a goer or not.

Clarky_X

29-06-2010, 06:45

You painted over the Porsche branding :SmackBottom:

Paul Woods

29-06-2010, 07:35

Tiggs i've no idea if the colour coding means anything.

Yes i painted over the Porsche, i have some bespoke Woodsport decals coming.

snowtigger

29-06-2010, 09:55

Cheers ears not a problemo, bet you can't wait till test day comes and all the mechanicals are tested.

snowtigger

29-06-2010, 09:59

Can't wait to see those decals on the brakes mate maybe worth it just for the decals.

Paul Woods

08-07-2010, 07:34

One part of my build that i just can't decide on is the rear wing.

My heart says keep the stock Mk1 wing on there or maybe just do a Plumley version, but my head is saying i need something a lot more purposeful, more aggressive and ultimately functional if i take this thing out in anger, also what rear wing befits a V8 Mk1 image?

I will be posting up some pics later, i've bought a Noble rear wing which is just a monster on the back of the car, it's as wide as the arches are, my first thoughts are that i don't like it, but then i think hang on it's a Mk1 V8, it should have something like that and goes with the extreme arches etc....

Just need a little input and guidance on this one chaps!

MartG

08-07-2010, 08:12

Why not have them all - it's only 4 bolts to swap a bootlid, so why not have several each with a different spoiler, and swap them as the mood takes you

Goldy

08-07-2010, 08:59

I'm all for subtle spoilers, an extended bootlid low profile job or something would look pretty nice I think. You deffo need to do something that looks a bit meaner than stock.

snowtigger

08-07-2010, 09:36

You've seen mine I'm having several boots with different spoilers so I can take my pic as the mood takes me, the standard spoilers nice but not functional some of the bigger spoilers look daft compromise me thinks.

One as standard one aggressive and one in between.

OlberJ

08-07-2010, 12:09

Said it since the the beginning, Big Gay Wing!

Noble one should be interesting.

Gouky

08-07-2010, 12:13

personally i prefer the stock wing. you're right the fender extensions do kind of ruin the subtleness of the car, but i think it should still have a stock wing on it.

pictures will help.

GaryA

08-07-2010, 12:36

its an extreme car why get all shy with the spoiler . Function over form for this mk1 i think

Moustachio

08-07-2010, 13:34

I think keep your options open aswell... maybe have one lid with standard spoiler for those erm... street sleeper moments... and a lairy one for when you do Santa Pod ;)

Jim-SR

08-07-2010, 14:57

get the Noble wing on there!

nik

08-07-2010, 16:35

i still love this style wing on the mk1..looks-wise its very 80's, with your wide arches it would certainly look the biz..imagine it with a carbon element between the pillars..!

http://designercars.net/biler/Toyota-MR2-7.jpg
http://designercars.net/biler/Toyota-MR2-11.jpg
http://www.designercars.net/membercars/426

snowtigger

08-07-2010, 16:46

They do make evo spoilers that are carbon nik just over priced and not very good.

I like the biplane evo spoiler with the extra vertical slats just about the only bit I do like on a scooby is when they go for parts.

hmmmmm

08-07-2010, 17:43

Not a fan of the big wings, makes it look a little 'rice' to me, for lack of a better term. The arches are already pretty mental, using a big wing on top of that is a bit over the top imho.

I think a lower cf spoiler would look good, something like this:

http://www.autogespot.com/log/images/07-2007/conversie/68c56a829_1.jpg

brianbooth

08-07-2010, 17:51

I could see Nik's wing looking pretty good with your arches, Paul, although normally I prefer the suble look. The car is going to look aggressive and I'd worry that a conservative wing might look a little out of place.

Paul Woods

08-07-2010, 18:26

Some good advice there chaps, i could do as Mart says and have both, one for trackdays and the other for normal driving. I've decided i just don't like the look of it for everyday use, it just doesn't suit the car at all in my opinion, but i am thinking more about downforce on the track.... see what you think, it's farkin wide!

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/07/130.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/07/131.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/07/132.jpg

This is one of those moments when i think Toyota got the design absolutely bang on...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/07/133.jpg

Nik what's that spoiler off mate? Could be tempted by one of those as a middle ground.

GaryA

08-07-2010, 18:45

Chop it down a bit so its as wide as the boot , make the end plates a bit more square and angle them so they tip in at the top and it would look a lot better . also get a nice bit of advertisment on it :laugh2: Which would you be happy at 170 mph with ? :driving:

Paul Woods

08-07-2010, 19:05

I was talking to Anth about this very idea, chop it down and add squarerer end plates that suit a Mk1..... i'm still very undecided.

In other news, what does a Mk1 V8 dashboard actually look like? Well we can't use the original speedo which is cable driven and i've no provision for that on the Audi gearbox, and i wanted real world digital figures of what my engine is doing rather than needles pointing "over there". I also wanted extra info as well so i have been busy making this cluster.

It features a Koso RX2N+ unit to handle RPM, speedo, odometer, fuel gauge and all of my turn signals etc, plus it does a shitload more stuff i can't remember, folks usually mount these on motorbikes, but i thought it would be pretty cool on this car.

The four corner digital displays are oil pressure, oil temp, coolant temp and volts (the video chopped my description, thanks windows movie maker!)

Beside the Koso is exhaust gas temp with programmable alarms/memory recall etc and a matching fuel pressure unit is going below that when it arrives. I am also mounting my Lc1 wideband gauge on a pod along with some other widgets.

And yes, it still needs work, i want a chrome bezel for the Koso unit, any idea how i make that? The shower curtain rings ( yes i did say shower curtain rings!) look great on the corner gauges lol i just need to add oil/water/volts symbols to those displays.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQBk52x5Hw0

Jiff Lemon

08-07-2010, 19:50

Nik what's that spoiler off mate? Could be tempted by one of those as a middle ground.

Mitsubishi EVO 8 wing I think; Some of the R32 skyline stuff looks ok on mk1 too

snowtigger

08-07-2010, 20:12

chop the ends of the wing mate so its the same length as the top of rear quarters then square carbon end plates would look mint, have you seen the one im thinking of fitting?

will post a pic of it tomorrow as the iphone in low light is crap unless you have the iphone 4 and no im not upgrading for £240 by the time my contracts finished iphone 5 will be out.

wow is all i can say for that dash, maybe some machined bezel if you know a good cnc person whistles.

MR2_NA

08-07-2010, 21:02

That speedo is awesome! That is going to be a nice touch in the dash. Love the sweeping effect with the lights just trailing off the counter arm.

Portgordon

08-07-2010, 21:24

i still love this style wing on the mk1..looks-wise its very 80's, with your wide arches it would certainly look the biz..imagine it with a carbon element between the pillars..!

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg
http://www.designercars.net/membercars/426

That spoiler looks absolutely amazing on a mk1!! I've never seen that before it really looks the dogs naughty bits.

Paul Woods

09-07-2010, 18:08

One of my rear brake setups is now complete, Mazda RX8 front disc with 22v Mk2 caliper on modified carriers....

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/07/134.jpg

Anyway now for the important stuff..... i'm changing the company name to Woofsport, meet Alfie our new pedigree black lab pup, he's 11 weeks and loves being at the garage.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/07/135.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/07/136.jpg

So you may see Alfie wandering around the workshop on the webcam from time to time.

snowtigger

09-07-2010, 19:21

reminds me of our duke, hes going to be a big un with those paws hope you have made the woodsport pooper scooper out of bits of mk1?

Paul Woods

09-07-2010, 19:23

No i think i've actually built a Mk1 out of bits of pooper scooper :)

Gary Symons

09-07-2010, 20:19

awwwww, cute doggy :smile:

BSM

10-07-2010, 08:54

Wish i had a tongue that long....

b4wrc

10-07-2010, 19:44

Saw this on pistonheads

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1813875.htm

Modified Audi RS4 V8 Engine For Sale

adamh

10-07-2010, 22:33

lol, brilliant mascot, that tongue says 'food in here' have to send plenty of hobnobs ..

Paul Woods

11-07-2010, 07:54

Jesus look at that engine, work of art!

Yep he's a greedy little bugger too adam.

Paul Woods

11-07-2010, 12:42

I decided to face reality and try and total up what this project has cost me so far, to be honest i didn't want to because i've just been blindly spending whatever it took to achieve the goal and the ultimate cost has never bothered me.

It's pretty scary when you add it all up but this is my hobby i guess.

Ahc V8 engine £1100
01x 6 speed box £200
Deltavag flywheel £300
Rs4 clutch £200
Gasket set £250
Timing belt £50
Thermostat £25
Water pump £45
034motorsport oil filter relocation adapter £60
Relocation kit £60
Engine mounts £40
Fuel pressure regulator £25
TVR exhaust £80
Pipe bends £100
Silencers £45
Exhaust wrap £70
LC1 wideband kit £150
Vems ECU package £1050
Induction pipework £100
Apexi filter £40
Mikalor clamps £30
AH-CNC trigger wheel adapter £40
Ford VR sensor £10
60-2 trigger wheel £60
Mk1 alternator £60
Fan belt £6
Supra turbo fuel pump £20
Audi/Toyota hybrid driveshafts £300
Driveshaft bolts £12
Aluminium heatmat £65
Copper heater pipes £25
Clutch hardpipe with fittings £12
Exhaust flanges with gaskets £30
Aluminium sheet £40
Rollcage tubing £55
Sheet steel £40
Alloy radiator £200
Twin 10" fans with bracketry £45
Aluminium radiator pipework £30
Jubilee clips £30
Fuel pipe £15
Apexi heat shield £20
Mk1 short shifter kit £20
Mk3 gear cables £25
Box section (steel) £40
Angle iron £30
coilovers £400
Cobra bucket seats £150
Koso Rx2n+ dash £210
4 x digital gauges for oil/water/volts £80
Exhaust gas temp gauge (auber unit) £65
Fuel pressure gauge (auber unit) £90
TPMS system £145
Gtech performance meter £50
Porsche 996 calipers £200
BMW 330 discs £200
Spigot rings £50
Mazda RX8 discs £95
Mk2 Mr2 rear calipers £50
Brake pads all round £80
Goodridge braided lines £60
Handbrake cables £60
TRD steering wheel £40
Richbrook 6 speed gearknob £20
Azev 10"x17" rims £400
Azev 8.5"x17" rims £200
Polybush kit £90
Woodsport arch kit £180 (cost)
New Mk1 front wings £200
Battery cable £20
Corsa/Mk1 power steering assmebly £150
Balljoints £90
WS bumpers £200 (cost)
WS engine lid £100 (cost)
1" Brake master cylinder £80
New brake lines/fittings £20

Total £9025

I bet i've missed a load of things off and that does not include paint/materials and all of the little fixings/nuts/bolts etc.

Paul Woods

11-07-2010, 12:42

snowtigger

11-07-2010, 13:21

And don't forget mate 2 years of your spare time plus week ends, and paint plus all the bodywork materials, also tires I bet you go through a few of those when you get this beast on the road.

hmmmmm

11-07-2010, 13:31

Yeah its a lot of money, but think of the joy when you are at a junction and there is a 25 year old knobhead in his dad's 80.000 pound audi rs4 who thinks you've just got a mid 80's sportscar with a 1.6l engine, right before you deafen him with V8 carnage!
And when you take this to a proper circuit you will have forgotten about all the money and effort you put into it, there will just be that feeling of euforia :)

Paul Woods

11-07-2010, 14:52

True Tiggs, i forgot tyres and haven't included a penny of my time, some of it within work hours too, by the time it's done i'll probably have £11k-£12k in it.

Yeah its a lot of money, but think of the joy when you are at a junction and there is a 25 year old knobhead in his dad's 80.000 pound audi rs4 who thinks you've just got a mid 80's sportscar with a 1.6l engine, right before you deafen him with V8 carnage!
And when you take this to a proper circuit you will have forgotten about all the money and effort you put into it, there will just be that feeling of euforia :)

When you put it like that yes it sounds like good value for money, i mean what else can you buy with £10k?

snowtigger

11-07-2010, 14:57

Have you ever seen Paul drive slower than captain slow on the road, he will be happy with just the knowledge that his car is faster than mr knobheads as I think pauls car is a Defoe brown trouser mobile.
It's idiots like me who are reliving there boy racer dreams.
Pity the white whale is no more after 2 years of hard graft, I don't think Paul wants stuff it into a hedge before jae?

Goldy

11-07-2010, 15:00

True Tiggs, i forgot tyres and haven't included a penny of my time, some of it within work hours too, by the time it's done i'll probably have £11k-£12k in it.

When you put it like that yes it sounds like good value for money, i mean what else can you buy with £10k?

You could have had yourself a boob job for that money...... i'm not sure which you would enjoy more though.....

It'll all be worth it when this beast is on the road!

Paul Woods

11-07-2010, 15:05

You could have had yourself a boob job for that money...... i'm not sure which you would enjoy more though.....

It'll all be worth it when this beast is on the road!

I'd never leave the house mate! :)

hmmmmm

11-07-2010, 15:23

It's idiots like me who are reliving there boy racer dreams.

Haha i know, whenever i get from my 1,5L diesel into my m2.6 i somehow transform in someone who has more skill then Ari Vatanen, and my car is faster then a Zonda F :)

sketchy

11-07-2010, 16:31

its a project car, the only reason I know how much my limo costs is for tax reasons;)

gotta be realistic with it though, its cost you almost 10k over 2 years????thats alot of time on the couch watching pay per view.
could have done worse with it and bought tobacco. what would you have for your money then? a bucket of ash and bad lungs.

Paul Woods

11-07-2010, 16:39

Now that's a good point, i never thought about the timescale as a factor.... so £5k per year, i feel better about it now!

(still think i'd prefer boobs though)

snowtigger

11-07-2010, 19:04

(still think i'd prefer boobs though)

Insert knob joke here.

Clarky_X

12-07-2010, 20:13

Back to the spoiler issue. I'm with you Paul in that I think the std spoiler is spot on for the car, I'm not even a fan of the Deano P mod as I can't see the improvement, the imaginary line from bumper to spoiler of the standard overhang follows the slant on the back of the car just right. I'm not really a fan of big after market spoilers as they just remind me of the shopping trolley handle slagging that teen modders get and I just can't get that out of my head. But I just spotted this while looking for mk1 pics for my screen saver and thought of you and your track lid spoiler idea.

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Mike%20Garrett/1FebFeatures/toy101/mix4.jpg

I also spotted an integra type R this morning and the spoiler is very similar to the Celica type spoiler adorning the blue Aw11, but it doesn't stick out at the sides before slanting in, it's a sort of smoother version, not sure what it would look like on an Aw11, but worth considering maybe someone could photo shop one up for you.

dgh938peg

13-07-2010, 08:27

That BGW works very well on the mk1 methinks...

OlberJ

13-07-2010, 12:47

BGW chopped in length and sitting lower on the legs, spot on!

Paul Woods

13-07-2010, 18:03

Argh..... not helping!

Clarky_X

13-07-2010, 20:01

Well you asked. I've had another couple of ideas do you.

1. Add a 2nd vein above the stock spoiler making it 2 tier. Not sure how much that would help downforce.
2. Make collars the same size as the factory mounting positions, use longer bolts and raise the std spoiler as little or as much as you like.

Clarky_X

13-07-2010, 20:05

Goldy

13-07-2010, 22:49

I'm actually really liking this. ... http://www.mk1point5.com/images/Kodiak/Kodiak3.jpg

Paul Woods

14-07-2010, 06:37

Yep that's the Plumley mod, looks really good.... i don't know, maybe less is more....

dgh938peg

14-07-2010, 08:22

I was all BGW until that pic Goldy - looks bloody gorgeous...... Severe rimmage on it too :thumbup:

Jim-SR

14-07-2010, 15:33

wtf is a BGW?

jayray

14-07-2010, 15:48

BGW- Big gay wing, I believe.

I'd go with stock spoiler every time, although I equally liked the custom one you did with your first 1.5. Does stock spoiler still look good with massive amounts of tyre and arch muscle? Could try going spoiler-less, they look really tough with an unadorned boot. Malcolm's car pulls it off really well, hope he doesn't mind me stealing a pic from TS?

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/07/137.jpg

Paul Woods

14-07-2010, 18:46

I'm going to forget about the spoiler for the time being as i just can't decide, at this rate i will have four different boot lids for the car :)

I made my dash Koso unit bezel, i basically got some round bar and spent a while shaping it to go around the clock, welded it together and filed it smooth. I will either use a good quality chrome spray or have this bezel chromed by a specialist.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/07/141.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/07/142.jpg

I'm pretty happy with this, it still needs more work though.

Goldy

14-07-2010, 21:41

looking good there paul!

Paul Woods

15-07-2010, 07:51

Cheers Goldfish, it'll look a lot better when it's all dressed.

Clarky_X

15-07-2010, 20:13

Are these the strapon waffles you lot were raving on about?

<img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4797121774_41fcaae315.jpg" width="500" height="299" alt="IMAG0038.jpg" />

Got them from Lidl, My wife just had a crisis in the kitchen. Caramel AND cinamon.

Clarky_X

15-07-2010, 20:15

Now that doesn't work as well as photobucket. Here is the full HTML link from flaker

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/13973238@N00/4797121774/" title="IMAG0038.jpg by talcumboy, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4797121774_41fcaae315.jpg" width="500" height="299" alt="IMAG0038.jpg" /></a>

That's no better

Clarky_X

15-07-2010, 20:16

Here's the link from flaker
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13973238@N00/4797121774/

hmmmmm

15-07-2010, 21:15

Try this source

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/07/67.jpg

strapon wafels? Haha i like that

adamh

16-07-2010, 22:27

good piece of bending work, you did well to pull that of first time !. i love it , its going to look brilliant finished behind the lens.

Paul Woods

17-07-2010, 10:30

Yes it worked first attempt, so i was chuffed with that, Anth called me a bender....

Paul Woods

04-08-2010, 21:43

As of tonight i have a fully working braking system, all four corners done and system bled. I have a good hard pedal with very little travel thanks to that 1" MC i got from Gouky (ta bud).

So it looks like i am running out of excuses to finally take it for a test drive, i need a battery box making and secure some pipework and also nail a seat in roughly for now, but i think i might actually get a first drive by Friday. :fingersx:

loadswine

04-08-2010, 21:51

Superb news! Go for it Paul, give it a little run. :thumbsup:

hmmmmm

04-08-2010, 22:39

Cant wait for a driving vid, needs a proper driver though, so pauls out.. :icon_twisted: :icon_wink:

GaryA

04-08-2010, 22:56

it's the big one ! :e045:

snowtigger

04-08-2010, 23:32

crap in a hand cart wish i could see this thing fire up as last time i was up paul had fired it up so many times for people he had run out of petrol, have a good run round the yard mate i am well stoked for you.

Paul Woods

07-08-2010, 19:01

Well it was a huge day for me, 2 years into the build and a ton of time and money, Jay came over and helped me out for the day, cheers mate! and the Mk1 V8 officially moved under its own steam, just a few feet forward and back to check clutch operation....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl8D3wpdwpY

Apologies in advance if anyone is expecting a mad burnout video, that is not going to happen today, we just wanted to start off slowly and build up over the next few weeks to the mad doughnuts and burnouts. For now i needed to be 100% sure everything is working and start debugging any faults.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PRmTxEA6GU

The car drives effortlessly, no throttle needed at all to move it, just lift the clutch, there is so much torque , this thing is crazy.

More trundling about....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDKk8qYvTao

Jay and i stopped filming to give the car a little squirt, we knew the bonnet catch was not on the car, we both knew we could only do 5mph, but in a moment of sheer madness i forgot all about it and i mashed the pedal and the bonnet flew up and cracked my windscreen :) , i'm not bothered because it was cracked anyway and i have a new one ready to fit and my bonnet was rusty so both were being replaced anyway, but it did scare the shit out of us! lol

So all in all a very successful days testing, i'm over the moon that i have achieved what some said was not possible, now the hard work begins sorting my bodywork out and finishing off the interior.

jevansio

07-08-2010, 19:08

What a laugh today, the car runs great, I cannot wait to see the bodywork done, I love it :)

loadswine

07-08-2010, 19:09

WOW !!!! So good to see it run and move. Mega pleased for you Paul. :thumbsup:

Jiff Lemon

07-08-2010, 19:26

Superb work Paul; Must be a fantastic feeling. Can't wait to see this finished, it looks positively evil trundling around! Never mind bonnet cable, it's those semi sticky throttle cables you've got to watch out for! ;-)

GaryA

07-08-2010, 19:39

looks the biz and sounds the biz already , will be some car when finished :eusa_clap:

snowtigger

07-08-2010, 20:20

Fantastic mate love the look, that thing looks evil I bet you can't wait till you can give it the beans just watch out for hedges and verges we don't whant this one wrecked before it goes down the pod.

Paul Woods

07-08-2010, 20:25

Cheers chaps, Jay and i gave it the beans with half the suspension bolts loose and tracking all over the place, it was such a laugh! This thing is evil, and crying out for an LSD, which will come later when i've worked out how.

Another trundle vid....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1jwHweR0CY

Paul Woods

07-08-2010, 20:36

Here's one to make you smile, Jay and i getting far too over excited about all of the little "firsts"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTvvg_8gOyw

burkedara

07-08-2010, 20:56

Im chuffed for ya, so will it make it to JAE, cant wait top see the finished article!!

Paul Woods

07-08-2010, 21:03

I'm afraid not dara, too much to do to complete it before then, i am going to make the bodywork my autumn/winter project.

Paul Woods

07-08-2010, 21:09

A walkaround of how the project looks now, like shit basically! But it drives...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ijj2EYd-Xk

hmmmmm

07-08-2010, 21:24

Haha rofl @ the sticker! Nice work Paul, and it already looks mean as hell!, so it will look beyond mad once finished!

Lee

07-08-2010, 21:51

Awesome stuff Paul! I got the first move under it's own steam feeling today too. Feels bloody magic!

Can you not rattle can it and get it down to JAE? Paintwork still won't be as bad as mine and it would be great to see it!

adamh

07-08-2010, 22:14

i love the look of cars like that, more so than the finished paint. it's all about the project work and that paint job is in perfect dress!. arches look mean in 3d.

the back end kind of looks great with a flat lip, trying to picture a spoiler of sorts while the movie was rolling, thats a tough call.

MRV6

07-08-2010, 23:02

Had a quick spin out in her today. Paul is easing her in so he didn't give it the full beans..... but bloody hell man when that torque comes in my eye balls ended up in my ears and I had to drive home with my head turned sideways. Awesome and what a soundtrack!

AlunJ

08-08-2010, 04:18

V8 burble in a mk1..... Some would say it's wrong..... but it sounds so right.
Awesome work :thumbsup:

jayray

08-08-2010, 05:41

Truly awesome, love it.

In that last vid, the black mk1 looks like a cute wee puppy, compared to an angry bulldog thats about to come after your kids :icon_lol:

MRV6

08-08-2010, 13:40

Forgot to mention you can picture how the car will look when it gets it's paint job.

Spook

08-08-2010, 14:58

well done Paul

that absolutely does look the business, will it sit on its suspension like that on the open road?

bloody marvelous.. want one

Paul Woods

08-08-2010, 15:52

I have a few tweaks to do suspension wise, it needs a wider and lower profile tyre on the rear and some height/camber adjustments, but otherwise it's pretty close.

Goldy

08-08-2010, 15:54

Please please stick this on a trailer and bring it to JAE, this is what Twobrutal is all about!!

PinHeaD_Mr6

08-08-2010, 21:30

Great work Pual! sorry if this has been asked but what side skirts do you have on the beast? I've never seen that style before. Thank you for all you do for the MR2 community with all your projects and dedication.

Paul Woods

08-08-2010, 21:34

They are Styleauto skirts, they will be blended into my arches.

Gary Symons

09-08-2010, 10:36

just got back from a weekend away, it runs then! :icon_twisted: :thumbsup:

Moustachio

09-08-2010, 12:18

Awesome stuff Paul, right I'm off to buy some shares in oil as when he gets this on the road, he'll be down the petrol station everyday ;)

:D

Paul Woods

13-08-2010, 08:09

Work has started on the body now, i am going to be putting extra attention to detail into this part, i want it to be flawless... well that's the plan anyway.

The Styleauto front bumper has always been a slightly iffy fit on a Mk1b nosecone, so i am doing a little reprofiling in this area. I definately do not want a fully blended front end due to cracking issues if i mount a kerb or something, so the plan is to make the bumper and spoiler separate but perfectly fitting, and make the wheelarch section part of the spoiler so that all comes off as one. This will leave a gap running the whole way between spoiler and bumper = no cracks.

This is the first stage of works, basic shaping, using fibral i have built up the bumper and spoiler contact areas and re-cut the gap with a thin cutting disc, this just needs blocking down and i will have a perfect fitting spoiler with a movement gap. On the arch part i have added temporary fibral to the outside, this is just to bond the two parts together for now while i profile the front.....

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/08/137.jpg

This will all be ground back out when i make the final cut to separate spoiler/arch from the car as per the black line....

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/08/138.jpg

Then i will permanently bond the two parts together with glassmat from the rear making them one piece, this means when the spoiler finally goes back on it will look like an OEM effort with it fitting the arch and bumper perfectly. The mating surfaces between the lower arch and upper arch will get 90* returns on them which will also act as attachment points.

Aware

13-08-2010, 10:36

Flawless indeed...the exact issues(except for one) which have been bugging me about using a StyleAuto front on a 1b...I have even been looking at some one off f/g wings with wraparound bumper mounts at the front, looks like you've made it even easier... :thumbsup: ...yet another awesome touch Paul!! :eusa_clap:

snowtigger

13-08-2010, 11:54

It would fit mine a treat being a mk1a but I've grown fond of my silver and black front bumper there's some thing so unique and retro about it.
Plus pauls looks the dogs nads with it just looking scruffy never mind painted.

nik

14-08-2010, 15:02

trailer + cover + jae = sex wees

dgh938peg

14-08-2010, 19:55

Nah - really pleased for you Paul ... she's a cracking car and know you'll make her look absolutely stunning mate!

Keep up the good work fella!
Dan :)

Paul Woods

29-08-2010, 16:00

Quick update now i have driven the car a bit, it has ridiculous amounts of torque, i can doughnut the car (even without LSD) by just feathering the throttle around 3000rpm. Straight lines at the moment are a joke, it torque steers so violently when i try to accelerate that i have to back off at anything over 4000rpm. When i finally get this traction issue sorted this thing is going to be insane at higher RPM's, it is already by far the fastest accelerating Mk1 i've ever built and very effortlessly heaves forward with bags of power in reserve, to be honest i'm a little scared to try and open the taps more than i am right now. The gearing feels perfect, much better than the E153 on a V6, first has lots of legs but i still need to shift up quickly at the moment to try and stop the wheels spinning, but they still do, in just about every gear i've found.

I am going to try and get a video tomorrow of it in action, the best i can describe it at the moment is it drives like a crab walks, sideways but going forward. I'm just putting too much power through one wheel at a time and boy you really notice it.

The Quaife LSD and Racelogic TC unit should transform it.

snowtigger

29-08-2010, 16:34

So on your day off your going for a spin round the yard in the batmobile, I envy you mate and at the same time you deserve it after all your hard work and 2 years in the making.

I just hope I can keep up in my small arched minimemobile.

MRV6

29-08-2010, 17:11

Gayness, you should of said you were over there today. I drove passed, could have popped in. Well we all knew it was going to be some monster and it is!

Paul Woods

29-08-2010, 17:13

I wasn't there today mate, that was an update from Friday, i will be there tomorrow though.

MRV6

29-08-2010, 18:33

Might have a pop over tomorrow then mate. Er after I've done my decorating!

snowtigger

29-08-2010, 19:03

Wish I had the chance to come up to see this beasty in action but as phill says decorating eh (the wife).

Paul Woods

29-08-2010, 19:09

Just for Phillis and Tigress...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTwaX2AAAlQ

snowtigger

29-08-2010, 19:32

So me and phill should get some nuts is that what your saying?

And behind mr T is a woman tapping her foot and brandashing a rolling ping saying "nuts hmmmm tap tap tap patronizing tap tap tap I PITY THE FOOL who is not going to get his jollies for a month"

MRV6

29-08-2010, 20:58

Ohh alright Mr. Big Gonads I wear the skirt in our hoose. Can you play 5 a side this week????

Paul Woods

30-08-2010, 07:33

No, i have ironing to do.

MRV6

30-08-2010, 07:50

No, i have ironing to do.

You git SOFTCOCK!!!!

snowtigger

30-08-2010, 10:40

I have hovering and rearrange the flower display in the vases.

Paul Woods

30-08-2010, 17:32

Today i decided to sort out the frunk, mine was pretty rotten and i wanted a sunken type battery tray so i remodeled the whole thing....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/08/113.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/08/114.jpg

Then seamed the whole thing up and sealed it, this is a much cleaner looking frunk and all i need to do is paint it and add some nice black carpet with maybe some chrome framing around the battery tray.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/08/115.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/08/116.jpg

Oh yeah we also had a little bit of playtime left, still limited to around 4000rpm in straight lines or it just loses traction, but the non LSD doughnuts are pretty funny, enjoy....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdW7mJ5g7GQ

tripod23

30-08-2010, 18:21

paul thats not funny - thats awesome , all i need now is an excuse to go to woodsport again , maybe phil will be selling his new engine soon after seeing this vid - great job cant wait to see it painted.

hmmmmm

30-08-2010, 18:48

Very neat looking frunk paul, nice work! What will the rev limit be once finished?

Paul Woods

30-08-2010, 18:58

The rev limit will be 7500rpm when i sort the traction issue, i haven't set it at 4000rpm in the software right now, i'm just not going past 4000rpm on straight line runs because it just lights the back end up too easily. If i could get into 3rd gear i think i could hit 7500rpm but i don't have space for that outside the garage.... it's just the craziest thing i've ever driven.

snowtigger

30-08-2010, 19:43

That's so cool Paul I'm uber jealous loving the relocated battery box that looks fantastic there.

I see what you mean by spinning around at stupid rpm LSD quick as we are all waiting for that first run in anger.

MRV6

30-08-2010, 20:31

Good lass Paula, that thing is brutal in every sense of the word. That frunk looks the dogs by the way! Right now got back to your ironing.

Si you want to buy a 2gr?

nik

30-08-2010, 21:26

ooh that things gonna need to be driven with so much respect..!!! what a noise too..

snowtigger

30-08-2010, 22:13

And driven by captains slows brother major slowdown.

MRV6

30-08-2010, 22:35

General Accident

tripod23

31-08-2010, 09:14

phil i think you should go v8 mate - first refusal on the 2gr please .

MRV6

31-08-2010, 10:01

Thanks for those words of wisdom mate!

tripod23

31-08-2010, 10:52

its food for thought phil - you did say to me never say never.

Moustachio

31-08-2010, 12:11

I hope there's enough ground clearance on that new battery tray! ;)

Looks/sounds awesome! Is/will be utterly mental!

Paul Woods

31-08-2010, 19:09

Yep plenty of ground clearance.

adamh

31-08-2010, 20:13

nice battery tray , nice noise!

snowtigger

31-08-2010, 22:18

you arent kidding on the noise the vids do not do it justice adam mate this thing just makes you grin from ear to ear like a loony on happy juice, i can understand paul wanting to take it easy and get used to it cause it is just a lunatic hooligan on a whiff of throttle.

Paul Woods

04-09-2010, 16:58

Today i worked on my power assisted steering upgrade, for those that don't know this is a hybrid Vauxhall Corsa/Mk1 column that i have made, it allows all of the original Mk1 switchgear, steering wheel boss and plastic cowlings to go back on and even retains the Mk1 rake adjustment for height control. This hybrid column allows 3 modes of operation....

1. On fulltime- giving maximum assistance at all speeds
2. On but adjustable- i can set whatever level of assistance i want
3. Off- behaves exactly like a standard Mk1 column when off, there is no drag through the motor with it turned off, in effect it's just a column.

I managed to install it without hacking into the dash support frame, but there will be mods to do to the stereo housing and brackets where the motor now partially sits...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/09/181.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/09/182.jpg

I had to make a hybrid lower knuckle joint that marries Corsa knuckle with Mk1...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/09/183.jpg

I'm pretty chuffed with this upgrade, and it makes this car the only one worldwide with optional and adjustable PS assistance.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/09/184.jpg

nik

04-09-2010, 17:26

awesome stuff..all cars should have one..!!

snowtigger

04-09-2010, 17:46

Fantastic stuff Paul when you've finished testing it out and making it 100% let me know as I will want that fitted to wallet rape.

nik

04-09-2010, 18:35

haha..youll never get her back if you keep adding to the spec you loon!

Torero

04-09-2010, 21:18

there will be mods to do to the stereo housing and brackets where the motor now partially sits... I can't see that being a problem. There'll be plenty to listen to when this is fired up.

Very brutal Paul, well done fella.

snowtigger

04-09-2010, 21:48

haha..youll never get her back if you keep adding to the spec you loon!

Dam you've spotted the flaw in my cunning plan.

jevansio

05-09-2010, 08:41

Dude, you should have said you were down yesterday, me & Philis were out & about

Nice work, do you think it would take much to make it speed dependant?

Paul Woods

05-09-2010, 09:50

I missed you by 5 minutes mate, the security guard said some noisy bastard black cars just been in..... :)

All i need to do is feed my tacho and speed signal into the original Corsa ECU and it will be speed dependant, that would give 4 modes of operation. I'm going to wait and see what it's like at a preset level and see if it's necessary.

Paul Woods

06-09-2010, 19:19

I wired up my PAS tonight and gave it a try, absolutely brilliant result! It turns lock to lock at a standstill with fingertip effort on a very small 12" steering wheel. Turning the assistance to minimal was still very light at a standstill but could not be done with fingertips, i needed to use light hand pressure. Turning it off just made it feel like a Mk1 steering again.

A very strange sensation not having the engine running and having full PAS.

Made up with it! :thumleft:

adamh

06-09-2010, 21:22

sounds great, that is powered by a little gear box and servo or some device?

Paul Woods

07-09-2010, 06:53

It's bascially a motor with some sort of worm gear on the column i think mate, and it varies the amount of help it gives as you turn. It needs resistance at the rack end to work which is odd, it must have a few sensors built into the column.

tripod23

07-09-2010, 08:45

sounds to me like the mk1 v8 is all coming together now paul , have you totted up what you have spent on it yet . ha ha

snowtigger

07-09-2010, 12:19

A fiver so far he said to me and he thought that was dear.

Paul Woods

07-09-2010, 17:54

Almost £9500 at the last count.

Paul Woods

07-09-2010, 18:11

Thought you might like to see how well this power steering conversion actually works, bear in mind this is at a standstill, with big 17" wheels on the front with 215 tyres and a tiny steering wheel. So you can see before the ignition is switched on how much effort it takes to turn the wheel, then one finger with the system turned on.

Excuse the mucky hands, it's been a busy day!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7ee7QUp5z8

snowtigger

07-09-2010, 18:31

I'm so like uber jealous of that like you wouldn't believe, you lucky barstool you.

OlberJ

07-09-2010, 19:41

Would suit a nice quick rack now, no worries about the weight issue.

Think it takes it down to less than 2 lock to lock with the quaife one.

Clarky_X

08-09-2010, 06:42

2.5 I have one. Took about 8 weeks for them to make to order. It is not that heavy, I use every day. I think Paul has previously said parts were about £80 and labour wouldn't be that much cos the column is easy to get in and out. I've done it. Replaced column not fitted ps

Moustachio

08-09-2010, 10:18

you spin me right round baby right round like a record...

erm.... cough....

that looks awesome mate. :)

As for a quick rack, anyone fancy a group buy?

Paul Woods

15-09-2010, 18:23

Cooling on a Mk1 V8 is of ultimate importance, despite fitting the aluminium 50mm thick rad and twin 10" spal fan set up and upgrading the size of the radiator pipes by 8mm diameter i wanted to get the ducting right through the rad.

I have the Styleauto front bumper which has a huge gaping mouth on it, from here air hits the rad, goes through it and is then trapped against the underside of the bonnet with nowhere to go, not a major problem on a stock Mk1, but on a V8 we need to address this. This mod is 50% function and 50% form though as i really like the aggressive look it gives. We also get the added bonus of possibly a bit of free downforce on the front end as air sweeps over the bonnet.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/09/193.jpg

The airflow path....

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/09/194.jpg

Mods to do to the inside include a box section in yellow, the bonnet vent sits on top of this meaning rain water falling on the bonnet gets channeled back to the road, no wet frunks! Also the original frunk seal edge will go back in (red).

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/09/195.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/09/196.jpg

The vent is made from light angle and plated sides, using the original bonnet surface bent downward to form the slope. This needs seam sealing etc before paint.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/09/197.jpg

Lots of ventilation for the big rad now....

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/09/198.jpg

Functional and aggressive, i love it.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/09/199.jpg

OlberJ

15-09-2010, 18:34

Good job that.

Paul Woods

15-09-2010, 18:37

<tips hat> thankyou young scottish man

MRV6

15-09-2010, 18:55

Starting to take shape nicely mate.

Aware

15-09-2010, 20:21

Just looks more and more awesome...cracking job Paul... :thumbsup:

snowtigger

15-09-2010, 20:26

i want one now dam you mr woods for making me drool all over the keyboard that looks fantastic mate looks like i will have to save up some more pennies now for that mod and the steering mod ho hum, looking good there paul.

jevansio

16-09-2010, 07:40

That is mint mate :)

b4wrc

16-09-2010, 12:58

Is there any chance that Nik (Zombiewings) will be moulding these in GF or carbon in the future?

dgh938peg

16-09-2010, 13:15

PW / Gouky - the brake master cylinder you've used. It's 1" bore - rather than 3/4" bore.

4-fold question

- is the mk2 M/C 3/4" bore also?
- are mk1 & mk2 M/C's interchangeable?
- will this M/C you used fit a mk2?
- what vehicle is it off?

I know you can get a 1" unit of Wolfkatz / ATS racing @ $200 for the mk2 but if there's a possible UK alternative.....?

Dan :)

snowtigger

16-09-2010, 15:36

If the 3/4 came of the turbo mk2 and fits a mk1b then the 1inch should fit the mk2.

What it's of is a Toyota van 1987 can't remember the model but it was hard to find on flea bay new only reconed ones.

You will have to move the pipe work as it's for a left hooker and not a right one if getting it from the states and mod the fluid tank to the front hole no biggy but it does work.

nik

16-09-2010, 16:41

Is there any chance that Nik (Zombiewings) will be moulding these in GF or carbon in the future?

aye, we have spoken about the possibility of doing this already, the man from del monte he say "yes".

Paul Woods

16-09-2010, 17:53

Rev1 Mk2 is 7/8ths bore same as Mk1, Rev2- is 15/16ths bore, Toyota truck/some Supras are 1" bore.

All Mk1b and Mk2 MC's are interchangeable.

Yes i will be doing two versions of this bonnet vent for Nik to mould, one will be pretty much like the one above and the other will be more like a Papal style. I just need a couple of spare bonnets!

Portgordon

16-09-2010, 18:06

Awesomeness! Love the look and the function of the modded frunk lid. really does look the business.

OlberJ

16-09-2010, 18:48

Papal style.

Topical, Freudian slip.

Paul Woods

16-09-2010, 19:16

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/09/200.jpg

dgh938peg

17-09-2010, 08:42

Rev1 Mk2 is 7/8ths bore same as Mk1, Rev2- is 15/16ths bore, Toyota truck/some Supras are 1" bore.!

Cheers PW - take it that'll be the UK mark-4 with the Brembo 4-pots on? By trucks i assum you mean the Tacoma and things like that?

My bad - found it mk3 :)

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?17622-1-Brake-master-cylinder-upgrade/page2&highlight=master+cylinder

Torero

17-09-2010, 08:58

I just need a couple of spare bonnets!

There are lots on eBay Paul and you can pay 'PayPal' style.:icon_tumbleweed:

nik

17-09-2010, 17:50

:icon_tumbleweed: very much

OlberJ

17-09-2010, 20:16

I've got a bonnet here that's been cut for the papal mod, sliced along the front edge and back 30cm's or so at each side.

Any use? Postage will be a total cunt mind you.

Paul Woods

18-09-2010, 08:17

Thanks Olie but as you say postage is the killer.

Paul Woods

22-09-2010, 19:16

I stumbled across a video showing my caliper decals being made...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vJG41iiO54

Thought it was pretty cool.

Paul Woods

22-09-2010, 19:17

I stumbled across a video showing my caliper decals being made...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vJG41iiO54

Thought it was pretty cool.

Rosssco

29-09-2010, 20:11

Paul, since it appears you are nearing completion of stage 1, I think its appropriate that you proceed to stage 2... (don't say you don't have the room!)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190449190136&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Paul Woods

29-09-2010, 20:20

Sadly the exhaust manifold pcd is different between RS6 and AHC so I'd need the 034motorsport ones, $800 a pop!

Rosssco

29-09-2010, 20:24

Do'h! I forgot the RS6 engine is the 40V version (I think)...

dgh938peg

29-09-2010, 21:21

I feel sure there are 40v Audi v8s on n/a form too. ...? They definitely did 5v/cyl on the v6s. Still... In a car weighing probably less than 1000kg with monster torque and probably 380bhp to boot... When do you say enough's enough :)

Rosssco

29-09-2010, 22:23

Yep the ~2001 (mk2) onward A6/A8 used 40V N/A motors, but Pauls is the earlier 32V S8 motor.. The earlier 32V engines are easier to get working apparently, as they have a traditional cable throttle, where as later engines were DBW.

snowtigger

30-09-2010, 09:22

Paul Woods

03-10-2010, 17:36

The body mods continued today, Jay came over and we decided to spend a few hours finding a rear wing solution for this car. The Noble M12 wing i'd bought looked hideous, and i bought a Celica Gen7 TRD wing too, that looked utter shat on the car as well, in fact the only thing that seemed to suit it was the original Mk1 wing!

However this is a Mk1 V8, and it needed to be different, so after a lot of playing around with various bits of cardboard/masking tape and viewing the car from every conceivable angle we decided a variation on the Plumley theme was called for.

I wanted something aggressive yet subtle, so we chopped the ends off a stock Mk1 wing and moved them outboard onto the quarter panel, these will be permanent on the quarter much like a Rev1/2 Mk2 rear wing is, in fact exactly like that, not blended in or anything just bolted to the quarter. Then the Noble wing was sacrificed for its carbon blade, this was chopped down to fit between the two end pieces and will be part of the boot lid (i will make plates joining this to the boot lid later)

The end result is a wider than stock Mk1 wing that has a carbon blade and for good measure it's been Plumley'd to give it that aggressive overhang at the rear and line up with the rear bumper.

We like this a lot, it suits the car better than anything else we've tried.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/10/125.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/10/126.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/10/127.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/10/128.jpg

As with all bodymods we do it needs quite a few hours sanding and shaping to get it right, but i think this goes with the very wide stance of the car very well while retaining as much of the orginal Mk1 style as possible, a Mk1 V8 version if you will.

Huge thanks to Jay for bouncing ideas off and being a second pair of eyes. :thumbsup:

tripod23

03-10-2010, 17:47

looks bob on from here mate - nice work.

jevansio

03-10-2010, 19:50

If ever the notion of "two heads are better than one" needed proving this is it. We should work for Toyota design team :)

Paul Woods

03-10-2010, 20:05

We should mate! A guy just commented on the US forum that it's a shame this can't be done on a stock Mk1 without sacrificing the boot..... i don't think i've made it obvious that the carbon wing opens with the lid lol

jevansio

03-10-2010, 20:48

We should mate!
As in "we should reproduce"? I don't think so, unless you're the taker?

Gouky

04-10-2010, 00:01

i'm loving the mini-sledge spacer :)

Paul Woods

04-10-2010, 06:55

I was thinking of making those a permanent feature..... V8 Mk1 with hammers.... Grrrrrrr!

Gouky

04-10-2010, 11:57

getting inspiration from my lemon car? :)

Spook

04-10-2010, 12:40

Thats the right wing/spoiler Paul, spot on, just like a mk1 but wider is definately the way to go,
subtly manic!

snowtigger

04-10-2010, 21:09

have found you an aternate wing mate.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/10/23.jpg

is this the trd celica wing you didnt like?:hidesbehi:

OlberJ

04-10-2010, 21:10

What happened with the TRD wing? It should have looked the business, proportions wrong?

Paul Woods

04-10-2010, 21:15

Too many wrong angles and it made the car look like a 5 year old drew it.

Tim Higgott

05-10-2010, 22:34

I'm actually really liking this. ... http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

I'm lovin these rear arches. Where can i get them?

snowtigger

05-10-2010, 23:04

Off Paul tim there his arch set or you could get them like mine, give Paul a pm.

Paul Woods

06-10-2010, 06:47

That's Denos 1.5, those arches are hand built. The closest you can get is using my universal ones.

Tim Higgott

06-10-2010, 23:02

Thanks Tiggs and Paul.

Added to shopping list for the goat. Performance first then styling.

Paul Woods

23-10-2010, 17:46

Today was spent doing more work to the "Jaywing" , it's really starting to come along now.

The blade supports are now finished and welded to the bootlid... i've had loads of emails from people asking how the blade opens with the lid, here you can see how it's done...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/10/146.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/10/147.jpg

Closed there is only a slight panel sized gap, i think it looks OEM as hell!

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/10/148.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/10/149.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/10/150.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/10/151.jpg

More work needed on the rear parts of the side panels, i'd say a day on these max and the Jaywing will be finished. Hopefully this wing looks like a Mk1 V8 version without going too OTT.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/10/152.jpg

Paul Woods

23-10-2010, 17:46

Today was spent doing more work to the "Jaywing" , it's really starting to come along now.

The blade supports are now finished and welded to the bootlid... i've had loads of emails from people asking how the blade opens with the lid, here you can see how it's done...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

Closed there is only a slight panel sized gap, i think it looks OEM as hell!

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

More work needed on the rear parts of the side panels, i'd say a day on these max and the Jaywing will be finished. Hopefully this wing looks like a Mk1 V8 version without going too OTT.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

The keener eyed will spot we reprofiled the side pieces to be the same shape as the blade by removing the yellow area from the original design.... works much better from the rear and side views.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/10/153.jpg

Plasticgeordie2007

23-10-2010, 18:44

Looks good Paul,

I popped by earlier but though no one was there, as the shutter was down. wish I had knocked on the door now.

Paul Woods

23-10-2010, 18:46

What time was that mate? We were there from 11:30 until 4:15? Shutter open the whole time.

MRV6

23-10-2010, 18:59

Today was spent doing more work to the "Jaywing" , it's really starting to come along now.

The blade supports are now finished and welded to the bootlid... i've had loads of emails from people asking how the blade opens with the lid, here you can see how it's done...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

Closed there is only a slight panel sized gap, i think it looks OEM as hell!

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

More work needed on the rear parts of the side panels, i'd say a day on these max and the Jaywing will be finished. Hopefully this wing looks like a Mk1 V8 version without going too OTT.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

The keener eyed will spot we reprofiled the side pieces to be the same shape as the blade by removing the yellow area from the original design.... works much better from the rear and side views.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

That's looking good mate, shouldn't the "Jaywing" have shorts on and hairy legs?

Paul Woods

23-10-2010, 19:04

He was welding his seat runners today, so in the interests of health and safety we made sure his hairy legs were covered in case he :blowup:

MRV6

23-10-2010, 19:30

He was welding his seat runners today, so in the interests of health and safety we made sure his hairy legs were covered in case he :blowup:

Whoof, if those legs went up it would make them California bush fires look like someone setting a sparkler owf! You could prolly run Drax power station with the hair from those legs.

nik

23-10-2010, 19:32

i like it paul but im still not sure its going to do much more than the stock mk1 wing in regards to downforce, lookswise its bob on though!!
still convinced that to get a wing to work on the mk1 with all that turbulent air you need an engine cover like ben has produced for the mk2 (im developing one for the mk1) and a higher wing position.

Paul Woods

23-10-2010, 19:38

Yeah i agree Nik, it's probably doing very little in terms of downforce, problem is anything else i tried just looked poo on this car with the wide arches.... the higher wings just didn't work cosmetically, made her look too "wacky races".

I'm starting to accept this car is probably not going to be amazing on track, built more for the street i think....

adamh

23-10-2010, 19:44

looks well tasty , stainless ?

Paul Woods

23-10-2010, 19:46

It's just mild Ads, so will need careful prepping, priming and painting to stop those blade supports going rusty.

Plasticgeordie2007

23-10-2010, 20:37

Was about 11.15 Paul so must of been just before you got there. Was asked to pop in and see you by John from Coxhoe MOT centre.

snowtigger

23-10-2010, 22:18

all ways worth giving paul a buzz on the dog and bone to see if hes going to be in or not, that wing looks wicked paul but the one in the garage ive got you may not like will bring it up next week end and you can see what it looks like on my car proper wacky racer peter perfect lol.

todd

21-11-2010, 14:05

Any updates on the beastie Paul?

Paul Woods

21-11-2010, 14:38

Nothing interesting to report, she's in for bodywork now, so just lots of sanding/priming etc... mechanically the project is just about finished.

todd

21-11-2010, 14:42

Pleased to hear it, just be sure and have it finished before crimbo, need to show it to the missus so I can say, "I want one of those from santa" :-)

snowtigger

21-11-2010, 14:50

Have you managed to fit the LSD yet Paul to keep it in a straight line.

todd

19-01-2011, 00:55

Whilst waiting, Todd passed away due to a lack of updates!

http://sandiegopreviews.com/files/2008/04/SKELETON-AT-COMPUTER.jpg

;)

Paul Woods

19-01-2011, 06:46

LOL sorry chaps not much being done at the moment, it's all bodywork though and i plan on getting a few good saturdays on that soon.

Spook

19-01-2011, 08:39

ha ha... that looks like me at work, oh god i have to get out of there!

Paul Woods

22-01-2011, 18:22

Well the natives were getting restless so i thought it was time to update with progress, but don't blame me if it's a boring one, sanding, fibreglass mating and filling and then more sanding is not exactly riveting stuff!

I have started to get the correct profile on my arches, these were fitted about 2 years ago but i never got round to sorting their final shape, so i've cut them to create a tapered arch lip, much like Tiggers arches.

I've also started glassing in the sideskirts, these are getting flush blended and need the extra strength to prevent cracking.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/01/144.jpg

I've glassed the sideskirt into the rear arch as well, this stuff is just structural at the mo, the final shaping will make it all come together.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/01/145.jpg

Now on the rear i have extended my arches down to meet the rear bumper, this is an area that i can't make my mind up about....

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/01/146.jpg

I need to decide on a final profile for the bottom arch edge... i personally favour this one at the moment...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/01/147.jpg

Then there's this...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/01/148.jpg

And this... which is my least favourite.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/01/97.jpg

Lots more sanding being done next week, i really want this car into its final paint quickly in time for the show season.