My mk1 V8 (4.2 340bhp Audi AHC with 6 speed)

[Paul Woods]

That's automotive porno right there ^^^^

[snowtigger]

the new one is even funkyer, proper stratos power and looks no longer an ureliable fiat engine in the back, and before you go it was a ferrari engine er no it was a dino engine which ferrari developed for fiat dinos were never ferraris neither were the fiat/lancia stratos but oh god the looks, i didnt love the next version it just didnt look that spankingly good side by side with the stratos the only next one was an lancia delta hc integrale both were only left hand drive but monster cars.

[T.I.M]

option 2 for me. suits the cars era and lines better

[Paul Woods]

A lot of people have said option 2 as well, i might go for a midway option between the two and just put a slight rise on the bottom of the arch.

[Rosssco]

Tell you what, Option 1 - Passenger side, Option 2 - Drivers side...

[Goldy]

It'll look wide as hell and totally awesome whatever option you choose!

[Paul Woods]

Today saw a decision made on the rear arch lower lip profile, i decided to go halfway between option 1 and 2, that seemed to be the general opinion....

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/01/153.jpg

Also started work on blending out the rear bumper swage, the body on this car is going to be a smooth and uncluttered as possible.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/01/154.jpg

Most of the work today went into this area, i sanded back the structural fibral and started getting the final shape right with thin skims of filler...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/01/155.jpg

This area will need 4 to 5 skims and flats to get it somewhere near before the high build primer goes on, that's when the real work starts!

[Diesel Meister]

Nice work Paul - looking forward to a pax ride in this one :thumbsup:

[adamh]

nice labour! is that a vent in place of the skirt triangle or a shadow?

[Paul Woods]

It's a vent, but it doesn't go anywhere at the moment.

[hmmmmm]

Very nice Paul! Good choice on the lip profile, keeps the masses happy too :)
I might have missed it but have you picked a colour yet? Thread is getting massive so a quick read through takes a week :P

[Paul Woods]

Supra quicksilver mate, i've already painted the engine bay this colour and the car was always silver to start with so quicksilver is my choice.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/01/137.jpg

[snowtigger]

that color will look stonking it gives me the horn on a mk1, was that the color you did my engine mr woods.

[Paul Woods]

Yep you have quicksilver cam covers Tiggs, beautiful colour.

[snowtigger]

tis rather a nice colour i must admit very swanky yours is going to look soooooo uber good paul im so jealous haha this is going to look mint at jae and go like stink at the pod.

[Torero]

Again, good choice with the arch profiles Paul.

Are you gonna go with a black roof like a MK1 version of a sonic shadow?

[Paul Woods]

Exactly like that mate, Becky has a rev5 sonic shadow and i've always liked the colour scheme, plus a Mk1 with a black roof is a bit of a TB tradition.

[Torero]

Exactly like that mate, Becky has a rev5 sonic shadow and i've always liked the colour scheme, plus a Mk1 with a black roof is a bit of a TB tradition. +1:thumbsup:

If I am not mistaken young Tiggs Walletrape is the same.

Great progress Paul, can't wait to see it in the flesh mate.

[Paul Woods]

Mini update, work still progressing on the car albeit slowly, i got my rollcage finished and painted, this just needs welding into the cabin.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/03/35.jpg

I've gone with white to match the white piping on my black leather bucket seats. (Jays idea)

[Paul Woods]

The project continued today and i decided to take a break from the bodywork and spend a little time on the interior. First job was to weld my rollcage in permanently... i also got my seats fitted (i still have people telling me they don't believe i fit in this car and it's driveable!)

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/03/193.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/03/194.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/03/195.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/03/196.jpg

You can see i have had to chop down the centre console, just removed 2" of it to make it fit, more proof that this is all i have had to steal from the cabin to fit the V8, it's just at the top of the new firewall that it looks like 8" because of the original firewall gradient. I've also made a new cubby box between the seats, again a chopped down version... aw cute!

So i'm pretty happy with how the interior is going to be, although it still needs work.

A quick look at what i'm planning for the indicator lenses here, i made these years ago but never got around to fitting them, they are not the usual clear lenses you will notice, i converted some driving lights that are exactly the same size as a Mk1 indicator/sidelight unit, these lenses fit into the plastic housing that held the old lens, so it will all bolt up to the bumper bar as normal. The inside will have a separator so it will have an orange bulb on one side and a clear sidelight bulb on the other.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/03/197.jpg

The foglights i have planned for the bumper... i was after some JDM motorized flip lid ones but they are super rare.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/03/198.jpg

[nik]

thought you'd been a bit cagey lately :icon_tumbleweed:
lots of progress there matey..

[sketchy]

bout time you started to work on it again(or at least show us some progress....make it pretty, drive it, then build your v12.....

one project at a time makes for better progress:)....pity life gets in the way of that though....

[adamh]

that interior is going to be subtly different with all the chops and changes interesting to see it finished i recky

[Goldy]

Looks great, really like the front bumper with those wide arches!

[jevansio]

The white roll cage was a stroke of genius lol, the interior is going to look superb

[snowtigger]

Ive gone off my front bumper now, there's too many of us in the club with them it's become too trendy lol.

[nik]

dont worry tiggs, you'll never be accused of being trendy ;-)...know what you mean though it is a tasty front end and ive modified mine so its slightly different at least.

[Clarky_X]

Paul, I think you should go full LED on the side light and indicators. A straight strip of white running lights and a straight strip of indicator LED behind the clear lenses would look the biz.

[Paul Woods]

Strips are not really my taste but you gave me a good idea to use LED bulbs, so i've ordered some :thumbsup:

[rjevans]

Strips are not really my taste but you gave me a good idea to use LED bulbs, so i've ordered some :thumbsup:

Tut Tut I got 40 individual LEDs, and LED holders for that sort of thing, the are tiny, and fit flush into body work, I was going to use the Amber ones for mirror housing indicators, and have a thin line of white ones for side lights just infront of the pop up housing in the front bumper.

Do you want them as I have no need for them now. Let me know and I will put them in the boot of the car for when its collected for you :)

[if i can find them, got a pretty good idea where they are though!]

Also got LED bulbs for the side lights somewhere and white LED dash bulbs for you :)

[Paul Woods]

Bugger, just went and bought some.... cheers anyway mate!

[Paul Woods]

I thought i'd stick my two pride and joys next to each other for a bit of a comparison pic, the red car is my minty stock Mk1, nothing more than Lenso Samurai wheels/Yokohama rubber and dropped 30mm, everything else is standard. This really gives a good persective of how extreme this Mk1 V8 is...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/03/200.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/03/201.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/03/202.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/03/203.jpg

Both cars will be at JAE this year.

[OlberJ]

Lovin the Corsa, oh yeah :cool:

[Paul Woods]

I built that for my 17 year old daughter, pimped it right out lol

[Garbe]

V8 for me :icon_twisted:

[adamh]

2's a nice shot, betterer without the skirts.

[Diesel Meister]

Noice.

Bring on the run out!

[snowtigger]

lovely now thats the before picture now get your finger out and do the after, i cant wait to see this all painted up will look stunning, nicks yours and my effort will look good at this years jae all finished i cant wait.

[hmmmmm]

GEEZUZ you have 2 project car that actually drive now? I cant even manage to get 1 running :)

I like the clean look of the red mk1, but the pure bruteness (yes thats a word from now on) of the v8 gets my vote! Cant wait to see some proper driving vids, and no crappy phone shots this time :P
Now that the V8 is al figured out, will it get a place on the pricelist? There are always people that want the most extreme and this is definitely it!

[Paul Woods]

I think the V8 swap is always going to be a £10k plus conversion, it's just so extreme and takes months of full time work to pull off, i'm hoping things will get slightly easier with the new 2010 OB1 gearboxes providing we can make everything fit. We have a customers Mk2 V8 to build later this year so i guess we will see.

[Clarky_X]

Where's the front on side by side shot so we can see the full on girth of this monster. may as well do one up the rear while you are at it. can't wait to see in the flesh. and some more driving vids when you're ready. keep up the stunning work

[nik]

you gonna park the red one over on the imoc stand mate..!

[snowtigger]

you gonna park the red one over on the imoc stand mate..!

They wouldn't have it, he's changed the wheels so it's not fully original.

[Paul Woods]

A few side by side reference shots... really shows how aggressively styled the 8 is.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/03/102.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/03/213.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/03/103.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/03/214.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/03/215.jpg

The carbon blade is missing from the V8's rear spoiler.

[Lee]

Is it wrong to like the V8 in its current colours and state, something a bit Deathrace 2000 about it. A rat look that is actually a genuine result of the work you've been doing to it.

Gonna look the business at JAE that's for sure!

[Paul Woods]

Do you know how many people have said they like it the way it is? Loads!!! Seems the rat look is popular these days, but i'm not a fan of it, not unless it's an old chevy pickup truck or something, i think that's the only time it works.

[Torero]

The stance on the arse end looks brutal Paul. Looks like a sumo wrestler taking a dump.

Sonic Shadow colours with black wheels will look the bollox but I agree with the others and prefer the rat look.

[OlberJ]

It'll loose a lot of the impact if you go all smooth and the one colour.

Needs the coachline highlights to break it all up or it'll look like one of the max power brigade filler extravaganzas. Although, there is a lot of filler on that there car :icon_mrgreen:

[snowtigger]

I think it looks fresh with it all being one colour, at the moment it looks a bit bumble bee transformerish , I love it.

[Spook]

actually, i think once you have it painted the chosen colour, that will absolutely do it.... black roof as well?

cant say i like black wheels, theres something wired in my head that they have to be shiny, jesus i must be a bling boy

[aek]

When I see these pictures something pops up in my mind: Dr. Jekyll / Mr. Hyde:smile: I have follow this thread for some time, and this car show that mr Woods is still the "goodfather" of Toyota mr2 mk1:thumbsup:

[Paul Woods]

Thanks mate, but when i see some of the things you can do i don't feel in the same league at all, you're on a different level (or planet!) :)

[Paul Woods]

Bank holiday Monday means only one thing, V8 time! I got stuck into the bodywork, not a lot you can appreciate in the pics here but it's just general de-dinting work and flush blending.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/04/265.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/04/266.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/04/267.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/04/268.jpg

Sorry the update isn't very exciting but a lot of progress made today.

[Goldy]

Looks good paul, don't forget there's 1000 hob nobs waiting if you get it to JAE!

[dgh938peg]

Superb work fella :)

[sketchy]

thats the thing about bodywork....hours and hours of work...and it looks like youve gotten nowhere..
then an hour later its a huge difference...

pity I worked the stat days:(

[Paul Woods]

I know what you mean Sketch, it doesn't look like i've done anything!

[sketchy]

that first full coat of primer...makes an immense difference..

my bodywork is still at the I can see the progress stage...perks of scratch building panels...
then it will get slow as I work though the dings and bumps stage like yours..but thats still a while away

[Paul Woods]

Yep the primer is a huge step forward to seeing some progress, i am also thinking about putting a quick 2k colour onto the car so i can see any remaining dints perfectly, then do a final repair of anything that isn't quite right before applying the basecoat silver and laquer.

[Jiff Lemon]

I'd be tempted to give a blast of colour Paul, primer is a so bloody flattering, you want to seem something on there.

[Moustachio]

looking good dude, can't wait to see it all painted.

[Spook]

Heard the R8 Audi motor racing in the GT Championship yesterday, sounded really sweet, smoother than the burbly Corvette motor (in the same race) and a damn sight quicker too.

V8 in an Mr2 is a brilliant idea!

[Paul Woods]

Another bank holiday means another days progress on the 8, more bodywork done, most of the passenger side is ready for a high build primer coat now...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/04/217.jpg

Just a few little areas that need attention...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/04/218.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/04/219.jpg

Another new mod today, part of cleaning up the bodywork with less clutter included getting rid of the eyebrows on the front bumper, which of course then leaves a large gap between the light cover and the bumper. I chopped up two covers and made one extended one out of them, this now extends into the bumper and has the same panel gap running all the way around the cover, it looks so much cleaner.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/04/220.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/04/221.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/04/222.jpg

With the light up, a reminder i've made some Rogue Mk2 lights fit on the Mk1, they had to be altered a lot to make it work on a Mk1.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/04/223.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/04/224.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/04/225.jpg

Still need to modify the light shrouds too but it's really starting to come together now. Thanks to Jay for his help bouncing ideas off as usual, he has a good eye for these things.

[MartG]

Making good progress there Paul

[ColleyV8]

Looking good, 48 more bank holidays and you might have it finished :lol:

[Paul Woods]

I need to get Prince Harry fixed up :)

[loadswine]

Its getting there, this car is gonna look so good!

[nik]

love the loss of those eyebrows..why are they even there in the first place?!
just out of interest what prep do you do before hairy bodge, just panel wipe?

[Paul Woods]

Jay said Toyota must have fucked up with the light units and said "oh shit there's a gap, let's make something to fill it in with" lol

The hairy is applied on top of a freshly angle ground surface for a good key, i welded two covers together and a slight V between the two parts is taken up by the Fibral, lots of strong.

[Paul Woods]

Forgot to add, it's easier with standard lights to lose the eyebrow the other way by just bridging the bumper gap up to the stock cover, but the Rogue lights wouldn't let me do that.

[jevansio]

Looks great bud, really looking forward to seeing the first coat of high build :)

[boondougal]

amazing how you seem to get so much done.. even in a few hours! a wizard if ever there was one!

[Paul Woods]

Thanks but remember it's my job, we are all good at what we do for a living, so nothing special really, but thankyou anyway!!

[Clarky_X]

Paul, you have deleted the side indicators, have you got wing mirrors with indicators in? and what's the light and dark amber crystal like bits in the rogue lights?

[Paul Woods]

Hi mate, not sure what you mean? My side repeaters are still there....

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/04/270.jpg

The Rogue lights just got hit by the camera flash that's all.

[Clarky_X]

Ha ha, so they are. can I borrow your glasses?

[Paul Woods]

Just use two jam jars :)

[T.I.M]

My brother in law just bought an S5 and took me a spin in it at the weekend. The power was PHENOMENAL!! This is going to be nuts in such a small and light car! You're gonna need a tire sponsor!!

[Paul Woods]

I think i'd prefer to be sponsored by Huggies lol

Another bank holiday means more V8 work, and i got a ton of stuff done, the other headlight got fitted and also extended the headlight cover as i did the right one, then i got some high build primer onto some repaired areas to get an idea how this thing is going to look and also get an idea how my repairs and modifications are coming along...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/05/317.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/05/318.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/05/319.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/05/320.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/05/321.jpg

Door blend has gone well, smooth as marble...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/05/322.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2011/05/323.jpg

There will be another 2 or 3 coats of this high build with flatting off in between before it is ready for the final primer which will be grey, then the silver basecoat can go on.

[snowtigger]

That is looking so sweet now Paul bob on, loving the extended headlight covers this cars going to be well smart at jae.

Any news on the quaife diff?

[MRV6]

She's taking shape nicely. I do like those lights, just a simply little mod but adds soo much. Hmmm porsche boxter yellow mate???? She's gonna have a menacing presence mate!

[snowtigger]

Nooooooo not that horrible gt3 yellow urgh there all round bloody wilmslow, sodding Porsche canary yellow or silver/gunmetal 911 caymans or boxsters.

The one colour I do like on a Porsche is that solid gulf blue or the lite baby blue looks really nice, I'm leaning to a vinyl wrap like the BMW or ford focus rs black edition mat or grey/black.

Stick with the supra silver or storm grey like the Aston looks sooo cool, what ever you choose it will look mint .

[Paul Woods]

Balls to Boxster yellow! Been there and done that, it looked crap. I'm very happy with the way it's starting to look now, the lights have been a great success.

Tiggs i can't afford the Quaife LSD right now, i might modify some other diff to work instead.

[jevansio]

Looks superb, bit like a......... erm....... S13 :)

[MRV6]

Balls to Boxster yellow! Been there and done that, it looked crap. I'm very happy with the way it's starting to look now, the lights have been a great success.

.

Aye you liked it really!

[Paul Woods]

Looks superb, bit like a......... erm....... S13 :)

Told you! What do i win?

[MRV6]

Looks superb, bit like a......... erm....... S13 :)

Aye mate, says she's a toyota girl and has a bloody s13 front end!!!!! I'd go for the passat look!

[Paul Woods]

I'd go for the passat look!

No good, you only know what they look like from the rear

[MRV6]

No good, I only like it up the rear

Far too much info mate.

[nik]

haha seamless edit!

[Jiff Lemon]

Tiggs i can't afford the Quaife LSD right now, i might modify some other diff to work instead.

/points at welder

Simples!

[MRV6]

haha seamless edit!

It's the truth mate! Honest:eusa_liar:

[Clarky_X]

Paul, those panel gaps are amazing, totally uniform. You could get a job fitting kitchens, premier made a right hash of ours.

My mate and I went to stoneleigh yesterday in his r1 westfield. I always love the cobras and gt40 reps, for me a kit car should be about recreating a classic car that you can't buy any more such as the above 2. I am not a fan of a cheap imitation of a car you can't really afford such as the ferrari replicas. Sorry Paul, I know you get business from this crowd, just my opinion. Most of the ferrari kits are out of proportion and we saw some dreadful mx5 aston Martin db9 and v8 vantage that looked like halfords kids cars.

However a couple of years ago I was very impressed by the extreme cars murcielago which was mr2 based, but on the whole, what's wrong with having a fast mr2?

This year we saw a fantastic bentley continental rep based on a supra. They hadn't time to paint so covered in matt white plastic, it looked the nuts. I think the kit started at 6 grand plus donor and with the tuning potential of the supra would have the go for the show.

Then we saw the zolfe which looks good, but at 32k I just can't see the appeal or the market, I mean, Paul could knock one of these out for me and I'd get change at that price.

Anyway, show report and hijack over.

[Paul Woods]

Woohoo! Someone noticed the panel gaps! I spent over an hour per light on those lol

No comment on the fez reps, i don't want to piss off my customer base :) Lets just say each to their own.

[dgh938peg]

Panel gaps are .... okay ... persay .... :D

(could have got them a bit closer i reckon :p )

[Lee]

The lights mod is excellent, was never a fan of the eyebrow bits on mine.

After the spraying is there a lot left to do? I know on my swap it was the million little jobs that hardly anyone sees that soaked up all the time as opposed to getting the engine in bit.

[sketchy]

the spraying is where some of the real pain starts...:(

you have to spend hours getting the paint surface "flat"...and it shows up the little ripples you didnt notice before....do you go back and fix them...or just hope the colour will hide the odd ding?...

[Paul Woods]

As you say Lee it's all of the final finishing jobs that will really soak up the time, the painting is the last of the big jobs though.

Sketchy on this car i'll fix the dings, i want the body to be perfect, like my own :)

[snowtigger]

on this car i'll fix the dings, i want the body to be perfect, like my own :)

Change those glasses mate you've left your joke ones on again. ;-)

[Paul Woods]

How dare you, my body is a temple!

[dgh938peg]

So that'll be the bhuddist temple then!

[snowtigger]

Vishnu are you feeling blue and never forgets anything ?

[sketchy]

he may have sacrificed a few to many pies on the alter....but there is no need to be mean.....yeah right

[jevansio]

Told you! What do i win?
Nothing, if you agree that an NSX actually is a better answer than a S13?

http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/2797/2797389-3.jpg

[Paul Woods]

No mate you definately lose this time...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/05/112.jpg

[Clarky_X]

Enough fannying around looking at car porn Paul. The last post appears to have been from the May Day bank holiday, since then we've had the whit week bank holiday and we've only got one more bank holiday before JAE. What's the plan Paul, not looking like a goer for this years show, what with you being busy on the Elise V6 swap. Any more V8 updates to come soon?

[coanda]

Hows the V8 coming along Paul?

[Paul Woods]

It's not at the moment, too busy with customers stuff and other projects, but it's just all bodywork to do now, so i expect this winter to totally complete that.

[coanda]

I'm really looking forward to seeing how it looks when it's finished.

I'm quite keen on seeing how fully fairing in the plastic trim around the back of the C-pillar would look, along with an opaque roof spoiler.

[Goldy]

This thread deffo needs a photo update Paul!

[coanda]

I've also been meaning to ask what you are using for the bodywork prep? Do you expect a lot of durability from areas like the filled in bodywork?

[Paul Woods]

On the bodyfilled areas special attention has been paid to structural support, so nowhere is filler used where it hasn't got fibreglass beneath it and steel fabrication beneath that. I've built many body modified cars over the years and you learn pretty quickly from your mistakes, so i'm not expecting any cracking on this car.

On areas that would be prone to cracking no matter what we did with the prep i've left movement joins, around the front bumper especially.

Another big help is letting the bodywork "dry out" for as long a period of time as possible, letting the filler sink as much as it can before any paint layers are applied. Sinkage can cause no end of problems if you try to modify the body too quickly.

I'll be putting more time into the car this Autumn with a view to full completion by Spring, my previous deadlines were totally unrealistic for a project this size.

[Clarky_X]

I was wondering what was going on with this thread. I've not had any email updates for ages. I was expecting an August BH update. Although there has only been 2 posts since I last got an update, my subscriptions are not working any more. They are listed with daily updates but there are now tick boxes next to them but none are selected.

I thought that you were keeping quiet on this on purpose Paul because you wanted a surprise unveiling this weekend. I take it that's a no, and you've been busy on other projects / customer cars.

[Paul Woods]

All updates are turned off at the minute while the Admin tinkers with stuff and yes i've just been too busy with customers stuff but this Autumn/Winter will see it finished.

[coanda]

I've also been meaning to add that I think you might find it beneficial to have a little trip strip (say, maybe 10mm high) along the leading edge of your front cooling duct. Theory is is that it will help the warm air to be extracted from the vent by slightly spoiling the flow immediately over the vent opening, allowing the hot air being pushed through the duct to be extracted by venturi effect. You may not get the full venturi effect in it's current condition if the flow is too laminar.

These things can be added and removed at will so, just some food for thought.

[Paul Woods]

Time for a little update, i tried to fire the beast up recently and she wouldn't catch.... too many people coming to the garage and wanting to hear it run for 30 secs left it so badly flooded it was drowning in petrol, plus my super rich base maps were making matters worse. So before Xmas i spent a day taking plugs out and had to set fire to the bores with a gas torch to get them clear.... it was like that scene from "flight of the pheonix" when he uses one of the cartridges to clear the cylinders!

Whooomf! huge flames shooting out of the bores, wish i'd got that on film, it was awesome! Anyway with the bores clear and plugs dry we got her started again, i'd forgotten how loud i'd made this car, and although it's an amazing thing to hear i just don't think i could live with it for more than a mile at a time, it really needs quietening down. The problem is the single TVR 350 silencer just isn't doing a good enough job, it needs more silencing! Burn the heretic i hear you say... and i agree, it does sound godlike at the moment, but i need to be able to drive this thing.So i've decided to revamp the exhaust system, i've already lost the boot as it is to the TVR box which leaves me a nice space just behind the TVR box to place a secondary silencer.

Hours of trawling Ebay and a crafty bit of bidding and i'm the proud owner of an Audi R8 rear silencer, what better silencer can there be!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/paddy1970/Woodsport 5/r8box.jpg

It has a perfect notch out of it to fit around my transmission and the plan is to keep the TVR box but plumb the outlets from the TVR box into the inlets of the R8 silencer, that should tone it right down and make it sound fantastic.A little bonus is that the R8 silencer comes with vacuum actuated valves on one of each pair of tailpipes, this is awesome, i can plumb them up to VSV's that i can program from the VEMS to switch at whatever load/rpm i fancy, meaning it will take on a totally different engine howl at higher RPM.... i might even use the output from the current induction VSV (Audis version of TVIS/ACIS etc) so that as the induction note changes so does the exhaust, exciting stuff!The plan is to hit the project hard again in the new year, i've neglected it a lot, but it needs finishing this year, so watch this space for plenty of updates.

[adamh]

aha..little vac diaphragms. thats an expensive back box with mechanisms? nice job, right about the finishing!

[snowtigger]

Is it a definite for this year an absolutely I'm getting this finished ready for show season ?

And are we going to the pod for a bit of mk1 mayhem?

[cdwood2010]

Is it a definite for this year an absolutely I'm getting this finished ready for show season ? And are we going to the pod for a bit of mk1 mayhem?

Hey, if you're going to the pod then I'm on board.

Do we have a club stand there? What's the craic?

C.

[OlberJ]

Have you heard a standard R8 Paul? I think they sound awful. Really doesn't do the engine any favours.

That'll be why this one was being sold probably!

2 back boxes all the way back there won't do you any favours in weight and it'll kill too much of the sound IMO. Before you go fitting that i'd have a long hard think about it.

[snowtigger]

I know what your going through Paul my zorst sounds fantastic when giving it the beans but for motorways it's too loud and droning at 70mph I can't hear my self think or hear my tunes, that's why I'm having phillis zorst a tad quiter then if that doesn't float my boat will probably go for a custom built back box tuned to give a growl at full bore but quiet at cruising speed.

[Paul Woods]

Have you heard a standard R8 Paul? I think they sound awful. Really doesn't do the engine any favours.

That'll be why this one was being sold probably!

2 back boxes all the way back there won't do you any favours in weight and it'll kill too much of the sound IMO. Before you go fitting that i'd have a long hard think about it.

Olie i think the R8 sounds lovely, but i take your point, how about just fitting the R8 box but do away with the TVR one? That way i don't have any of the other silencers a stock R8 has..... what do you think?

[OlberJ]

There's no bark to a standard R8. It's way too tame.

If the T350 box is too loud i'd look at a couple of mini silencers or some extra baffles.

This just sounds too clinical http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qc9z23sJws like 2 Honda inline 4's. On the back of the TVR box you'd hear naff all.

As long as it doesn't drone, keep it loud and harsh.

[OlberJ]

That engine can sound great though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPkPArKKMYI

[snowtigger]

That second one is waaay nicer than that first one was too quiet for me.

Why not just plumb in the New zorst Paul stick a few tips on the end and post a vid?

Just get rid of the tvr jobbies.

[Gouky]

the car has almost three times the displacement and horsepower of stock and you're concerned about it sounding a bit rude?

frankly all this car needs is an ECU controlled variable backpressure.

buy one of these: http://shop1.actinicexpress.co.uk/shops/Rat_Sport/images/catalog/valve_trimmed.jpg and cut off the top of the butterfly maybe .25" or so and then have the ECU open it up anytime you're over 25% throttle or so.

[Paul Woods]

As long as it doesn't drone, keep it loud and harsh.

Can't do that mate, might as well leave it as it is now, it's just too loud, it won't pass MOT like it is, i need some refinement about it if it is to be used otherwise i will have built a very expensive trailer queen.

I think i'm going to try it without the TVR box and see what it sounds like on just the R8 silencer and go from there.

[Paul Woods]

Marc the Audi box has two vacuum actuated butterflies already, i think i can program when they open with VSV's via the VEMS outputs so i can fine tune how it sounds.... that's the idea anyway!

[Gouky]

what's the MOT restrictions?

around here the easy way to get around the DB limits is just to aim the exhaust in two different directions and towards the ground if possible. that way there's no one direction that gets the full assault of the sound pressure. brings the peak point below the legal 100dB limit.

granted 100dB is a bit ridiculously high. I'm sure the MOT limits are lower.

if you're worried about getting the noise out of the cab, try extending your tips a bit till they are 1-2" past the body work. it makes a very large difference.

[Paul Woods]

Believe it or not our MOT doesn't actually have a decibel figure or any form of metering on the day of test, it comes down to the testers discretion of wether he thinks it's too loud or not!!! Mad or what?

So if your MOT tester has been on the beer the night before and has a bit of a hangover then your car will fail..... i've had cars that i thought were way too loud and the tester passed it because he "likes em loud"

There is no actual law about this, which in a way i'm pleased about.

[Paul Woods]

A days bodywork doesn't seem to go very far but it's progress all the same, i managed to block down the previous guide coat of high build primer to reveal a few more bellies and ridges in the bodywork, stuff that normally gets left during a regular respray and you'd hardly notice unless you have an eye for this kind of thing, but on this car i'm aiming for perfection on the body and panel gaps which are all going to be mm perfect.

Not a lot to see in these pictures but such is the nature of sanding/filling/sanding/priming etc...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/12/178.jpg

A lot more work done on the bonnet vent, it had quite a wavy front edge due to distortion from welding, i won't be happy until it is marble flat. I also spotted that one of the leading edges of the bonnet vent tapered more at the top by about 2-3mm than the other side, so i've started grafting that to make them equal, again it's stuff the regular man on the street would never notice, but i know it's there.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/12/179.jpg

Got the structural fibral in on the sill edge, this will add a lot of strength to my sideskirts and prevent them cracking.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/12/180.jpg

An overview of progress, i reckon another few skims of filler in certain areas and it will be close to its last high build primer coat, then i'll get some colour onto it.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/12/181.jpg

[tripod23]

the dreaded bodywork now thats graft mate. your hard work will be rewarded when its all complete . great stuff paul , and merry xmas

[Paul Woods]

It's neverending mate, especially when the goal is perfection, hopefully a few good days spent on it will see it getting there.

[MRV6]

It's neverending mate, especially when the goal is perfection, hopefully a few good days spent on it will see it getting there.

You spent most of the day talking. It's like having talk radio on.

[Paul Woods]

I do my bit for care in the community when "special" people call in

[MRV6]

I think a special person did that bonnet vent.

[snowtigger]

I wonder if any body else is around who's special so they can do mine next year?

Awesome work as always Paul that car will look spanking next year a show winner as well as a fab bench mark for what you can achieve.

[Paul Woods]

More mundane bodywork, the drivers wing arch/bumper area needed more work so i spent a bit of time on that, remember all of this filler is just cosmetic.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/12/212.jpg

The passenger sill/doorstep that was previously fibral'd was sanded and given its first filler layer about 2mm thick.
More work done to the passenger side which is very near to completion...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/12/213.jpg

Final checking of the panel gaps around the wing/bumper/bonnet and lights, all looks good...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/12/214.jpg

I had to remove the windscreen to carry out a top edge roof repair...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/12/215.jpg

It wasn't too badly corroded but worth repairing properly anyway...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/12/216.jpg

Seeing as the screen was out i decided to paint the front dash scuttle, this was originally a blue interior car, so this was the last unreachable area of blue, which is now painted satin black...
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/12/217.jpg
Overview of the front end now...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/12/218.jpg

So she's getting there, i think there's maybe 80 hours bodywork left to get it to the standard i'll be happy with.

[cdwood2010]

Nice work paul.

As has already been said, laborious work, but very rewarding. Very therapeutic in my opinion!

And don't forget, the end result is worth all the man hours!

[MRV6]

You never said you were working over the gay-rage today mate. Who did you talk to?? We could have come over for some chin wag.

[Paul Woods]

I forgot to text you both mate, could have done with someone to talk at.

[MRV6]

I forgot to text you both mate, could have done with someone to talk at.

How did you manage to get so much done without anyone to talk to??

[Paul Woods]

Dunno mate, you'd almost think the pair of you were a distraction or something.... unthinkable i know!

[MRV6]

Dunno mate, you'd almost think the pair of you were a distraction or something.... unthinkable i know!

Well I don't know where you get that from??

[Paul Woods]

The drivers front arch/bumper/wing area is now nearly finished...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/01/7.jpg

Also the roof is now repaired, next step is painting the roof and bonding my new screen back in...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/01/8.jpg

[GaryA]

Lots of hard graft going on at woodsport over the holidays , bet you wouldn't leave any finger prints behind if you took up a life of crime :icon_biggrin:

[Paul Woods]

No fingers left let alone prints mate :)

[Goldy]

looking good paula, keep up the good work you'll have her finished in no time. Goto love the body work on this car, if I was going to have a mk1 it'd be this one!

[snowtigger]

If I won the lottery I would get him to build me one with an rs4 v8 with twin turbos lol.
On a brighter note paul that's cracking work mate glad to see all the hard work comming together finally.

[Moustachio]

Its all in the prep! Can't wait to see the finished article

[adamh]

i added myself to the v8 groupie club thursday, nice car, sounds ridiculous!.

[Paul Woods]

Mini update, this car has never had a rear antiroll bar solution, the fact that the transmission sits right where the stock ARB would go has meant i had no way of getting a Mk1 or Mk2 ARB to work. I've scoured the internet for over a year now looking at hundreds of possible ARB solutions to the problem and had almost given up and was faced with having to have a custom made ARB when i saw this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/paddy1970/Woodsport 5/KGrHqVi8E6Qeg5tU0BOuTUkfQ60_12.jpg

That right there is a godsend! It comes from a Nissan Terrano II , has just the right hump in it to clear my gearbox casing and can be mounted right back at the rear of the chassis legs.

How will it affect handling? I honestly don't know or care, after all having an anti roll bar of any description has got to be better than no bar at all. I'll get this fitted next time i work on the car. It cost me the almighty sum of £20.

[hmmmmm]

Jesus how many cars did you go through before ending up at the Terrano 2? :tongue: Nice find!

Just wondering... what would be involved in a custom making an anti roll bar? What would happen if you get a big piece of stainless and have if bend in the right dimensions? Is there some secret to it?

[Paul Woods]

I went through maybe 100-150 different cars both front and rear to find one the right-ish shape.

I don't think you can use just steel, it's got to be some sort of torsional sprung bar, I think a few dozen twists of mild/stainless would break it, not sure?

[Driftin_AW]

ARBs are actually quite simple to make, you need to use an appropriate steel (NOT stainless), often just called "spring steel" but you can use stuff like 4130, 4340 etc too. Anyway you bend it to shape (which may involve annealing it first, and having to re-anneal it as you go), then when it's done you get it hardened and tempered to a level appropriate for a spring (usually a heat treater will know what to do for a spring). Around here there's quite a few places that will make one to order

[dgh938peg]

^^^ What he said!!

From memory 4130 is what they use which is a high grade, high carbon steel (hence they always look so rusty). They're heat formed to shape then cooled and then stuck in a big oven at some stupid temperature to normalise the steel to regain it's rigidity.

[Jiff Lemon]

i added myself to the v8 groupie club thursday, nice car, sounds ridiculous!.

Bah, just me that seems to have the V8 kiss of death then.....

[Paul Woods]

Jiff you wouldn't believe what i had to do to unflood that engine mate, plugs out 4 or 5 times, setting fire to the cylinders, took about 2 days of faffing! It starts on the button again now but i really must get my mapping sorted.

[snowtigger]

Stop firing it up get the body sorted and get a good map in there pronto, the 2gr always runs like a bag of nails after I disconnect the battery till 50 or 60 miles of driving sorts the ecu out then it runs as smooth as a baby's backside, pity it cant have a battery back up to keep the settings.

Who's going to do the mapping Paul or is it a trade secret?

[hmmmmm]

Who's going to do the mapping Paul or is it a trade secret?

I dont think paul understands the concept of a trade secret, which is a good thing :smile:

[Paul Woods]

Tiggs if you want to disconnect your battery but retain the ECU memory just put some crocodile clips on from a battery charger, attach positive to your starter motor main terminal and earth clip to any earth point on the car, then you can take your battery off without losing memory. Or get a cigarette lighter power thing, and wire the leads up to a battery or charger, that too will keep the memory alive.

Can't tell you who is mapping the V8, it's a trade secret :0)

[snowtigger]

Cheers mate have been looking at one of those ecu memory battery things, but your idea is genius.

[MRV6]

Mini update, this car has never had a rear antiroll bar solution, the fact that the transmission sits right where the stock ARB would go has meant i had no way of getting a Mk1 or Mk2 ARB to work. I've scoured the internet for over a year now looking at hundreds of possible ARB solutions to the problem and had almost given up and was faced with having to have a custom made ARB when i saw this...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

That right there is a godsend! It comes from a Nissan Terrano II , has just the right hump in it to clear my gearbox casing and can be mounted right back at the rear of the chassis legs.

How will it affect handling? I honestly don't know or care, after all having an anti roll bar of any description has got to be better than no bar at all. I'll get this fitted next time i work on the car. It cost me the almighty sum of £20.

Does this mean your going to do some work on it now. Or are you going chuck a w16 engine into a condom dispensing machine because you had some spare time on your hands and couldn't think what to do!!!!

[Paul Woods]

Aw diddums is all upset cos his footy team lost this weekend.

Yes i'm planning some major sessions on the car soon, i'll get that Audi R8 box fitted too.

[MRV6]

Good it's about time.

[jevansio]

I'm all ready for a Saturday of MKi goodness :)

[snowtigger]

I may bob up and annoy the pants of you lol.

[MRV6]

I may bob up and annoy the pants of you lol.

Tiggs you want that exhaust taking over? You can have a pop around and have a look at that tree if your opp this way. I'm about 3 miles from Paulas gay-rage.

[Torero]

Tiggs,You can have a pop around and have a look at that tree if your opp this way.
I think it's an airlock!!!
http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af244/Torero26/tree-in-the-shape-of-a-womans-private-part-nice-crack.jpg

[MRV6]

I think it's an airlock!!!
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

Lol mate, that could be an actual photo from this Saturday. Are you a time traveler?

[snowtigger]

Tiggs you want that exhaust taking over? You can have a pop around and have a look at that tree if your opp this way. I'm about 3 miles from Paulas gay-rage.

I may just do that this Saturday I can pop up and look at this tree, pick up this zorst and see the beasts progress at woods.
Pm me your address dude, it could be I have to come up on Sunday I have to run it by the kimosabe.

[MRV6]

Okey doke skip, will do.

[Tommytank]

Does this mean your going to do some work on it now. Or are you going chuck a w16 engine into a condom dispensing machine because you had some spare time on your hands and couldn't think what to do!!!!

I'd imagine this would fire them out with such force that it would blast one clean out the packet and directly onto yer purple member...


Edit: I subsequently want one...

[Paul Woods]

Today saw the old TVR exhaust system removed (just too loud!) and the start of fitment of the Audi R8 system starting with removing the upright supports to my crossbrace (yellow), these were right in the path of the new manifold to silencer pipes.

I will redo these to miss the exhaust pipes and repaint them, sometimes you have to undo a bit of your hard work to progress, such is the nature of an evolving project i guess.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/01/409.jpg

Also i removed the last of the old boot floor (red), the Audi R8 box sits over the transmission in this area, i figure i'll have much better airflow around the silencer to keep things cooler anyway.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/01/410.jpg

Here is the Audi box in place, i have removed the tail pipes, these will have to be rerouted behind the box, down and out the rear, a bit of fancy pipe navigation and flanges will do it, and the actuated valves will be staying, they're pretty cool and will help with low end torque... yes cos that's the one thing i need more of :D

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/01/411.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/01/412.jpg

So the boot is now totally dedicated to exhaust, bang goes my small storage area, oh well!

[Tommytank]

How long before u realise welding a mk1 shell into an R8 would have been simpler? :P

[Paul Woods]

LOL about 25 pages ago.

[Goldy]

Wow that silencer is mahusive, what do the tailpipes look like on the Mk1?

[snowtigger]

Wow that silencer is mahusive, what do the tailpipes look like on the Mk1?

Insert joke about tiny like ? Brain cell /penis/hair follicle/goal scoring from fav team delete were applicable.

[jevansio]

Awesome work Paul, amazing how clean you manage to keep the engine bay during such an impressive build :)

[Paul Woods]

I know, i'm awesome aren't i? Tell me again how awesome i am, i'm just so awesome! (sorry folks private joke)

[Paul Woods]

Wow that silencer is mahusive, what do the tailpipes look like on the Mk1?

I've got to fabricate all of the tail sections mate, the Audi stuff doesn't line up at all, so i can do what i feel like on the tails.

[OlberJ]

I reckon you're nuts. Still, it's your motor.

Have you got a picture of the new Audi box with the driveshafts at the flywheel? I'd be interested to see how it would sit in relation to the boot floor. I Imagine you'd lose even more of it with the new one?

[Paul Woods]

Honestly Olie that TVR box had to go, it was too loud, we will see what the R8 box sounds like, remember on the R8 it's further silenced by a pair of turbos before it reaches this box, so that will be why people have said it's too quiet, so i might get lucky and be spot on without turbos.

With the OB1 box it will sit 7" further back, but that gearbox is about 6" shorter than the OBX i'm using, win win all round really, if my engine ever needs to come out in future i'm going to redo everything with the OB1.

[OlberJ]

Eh? R8 isn't twin turbo, it's just NA.

New one is rumoured to have twins but the ones out now are all NA.

[Paul Woods]

Really? I always thought the R8 was turbocharged? Oh well that means she'll be nice and quiet, i'm getting old remember mate!

[dgh938peg]

Yep ... they're 4.2litre 414bhp N/A mate (or the full fat V10 of course ;) ) So yes - bit bland at idle but get them valves open & she'll sound immense!

[Spook]

Quiet is good, when pootling around, as is blistering performance from where you didnt expect .... retro stealth

So long as it sounds meaty on the go, I remind you once again Gentlemen -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Feh2GH-gDnE&feature=related

[Paul Woods]

Today saw some good progress made on the new exhaust system, just to recap, i'm fitting an R8 rear silencer to get this thing sounding more like it should, the old TVR system was just deafening.

I made a mounting bracket for the R8 box and bolted that to the gearbox, the system moves with the engine so no need for flexi sections. Next i cut off the Audi V-band clamp and i tacked on the new V-band clamps complete, then made fresh sections to go from there to the manifolds, everything is just tacked for now.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/02/157.jpg

Once the inlet pipes were made i started work on the outlets, tricky little buggers these, one pair has a vacuum operated butterfly which is normally open with engine off, and shuts when the engine runs on full vacuum at idle, this means as the load rises and vacuum drops these valves will open up gradually bringing the other pair of exhausts into play. Or i could snap them open with a VSV running from a programmable output on the Vems, so basically i could decide when the valves open, but i think i'm going to leave them plumbed straight to the manifold.

The bottom pair of outlets are just straight out, so i just needed to kick these 180*...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/02/158.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/02/159.jpg

The symmetry here for me is important, it bugs the shit out of me if one side doesn't look like the other, so i spent ages telling Jay how wrong he was :)

With the bottom two pipes done i did the top two with the actuators on them....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/02/160.jpg

I've staggered the overlap between the top and bottom pipe to make seam welding them easier, it also looks better.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/02/161.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/02/162.jpg

This thing is fast becoming nuttier than squirrel shit, but i love the madness of it all.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/02/163.jpg

From this position both pairs of pipes need to go straight down, have flanges put on them for three reasons...

1) Easy removal of the whole system later on if need be
2) I can change tail pipe design in future as the mood takes me
3) There is no 3, 1 and 2 were good enough reasons.

The next time i work on it should see the tailpipes tacked in position and i can start seam welding, we're looking forward to hearing it!

[jevansio]

Perfect, I think that muffler setup makes the engine look more impressive :)

[cdwood2010]

The whole thing looks impressive!

But where are you going to put your ballet shoes now?

:)

[Paul Woods]

Right up your Starfish! :)

[snowtigger]

And the ball gag gimp mask you showed me last time for the frunk dwarf.

[cdwood2010]

In fact I don't think you have thought this through Paul. So far we have:

Ballet shoes
Gimp mask
Frunk dwarf

Might be a bit tight up front.

Ooer matron!

:)

[snowtigger]

He's always tight up front he keeps buying kids sizes to impress the ladies.

[MRV6]

Ohh that's tight and bendy like a tight and bendy thing. Looking forward to hear her fire up mate. Next weekend????

[Paul Woods]

I don't know if i can do next weekend, but if i can then one of you fuckers is buying the bacon sarnies, brace yourself though, you may have to actually get your wallet out mate.

[MRV6]

I don't know if i can do next weekend, but if i can then one of you fuckers is buying the bacon sarnies, brace yourself though, you may have to actually get your wallet out mate.

Ehh, what. I bought you a packet of crisps in 1997, it can't be my turn already. I don't think I'll be able to make it next week er I think I have a touch of bubonic plague coming on.

[adamh]

nice work. done any more blending?

[Paul Woods]

Just chipping away at the bodywork Ads, it'll get there.

A nice diagram showing the stock R8 exhaust setup versus mine, practically identical pipe lengths from engine to silencer, loving what's going on inside that silencer too, should sound exactly like an R8.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/paddy1970/Woodsport 5/R8070087_medium.jpg

Actually after studying that silencer in detail it's quite a work of art, at idle and off load with the flapper valve shut the gases are forced to take this route and have to enter every chamber within the system before exiting just one of the tail pipes, it's a very complicated exit path...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/paddy1970/Woodsport 5/r8idleroute.jpg

Now under load with the flappers open the bulk of the restriction is bypassed, some gases are still going into all chambers but there is a direct route out...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/paddy1970/Woodsport 5/r8loadroute.jpg

No wonder they sound so quiet at idle and howl on full chat, lovely stuff.

[Jiff Lemon]

Looking at that pic, it looks like the box could have Cats in it? does this mean the V8 beast would also be uber-green? :eek2:

[cdwood2010]

I'm going to make one.

Skip diving here I come!

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/02/167.jpg

[Paul Woods]

Looking at that pic, it looks like the box could have Cats in it? does this mean the V8 beast would also be uber-green? :eek2:

Indeed Jiff, two CATS inside there, i have two options, leave it as it is or cut two access holes in the can, perform keyhole surgery removing the CAT innards and weld it back up, but i think i'll just leave it, what with MOT regs changing every year they might make it impossible for me to test the car, and at £3500 a pop from Audi for this silencer i don't fancy buying a replacement! I really did get this one for a song, £100!

[OlberJ]

Nowt better than buying a supercar's unwanted bits for next to nowt :D

One thing, and i'm positive Anth will have said this already, get that farkin shifter assembly off, cleaned up and painted pronto!

[Paul Woods]

It's already painted Mr Young, just covered in dust in those pics above...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/02/170.jpg

[Spook]

Liking it much Paul!

Pay attention to the symmetry of yer pipes.... thats your Woodsport advert for a job done right, right there

[Paul Woods]

Today saw more exhaust work, making this R8 system exit out the back of the car has been tricky to say the least, but it's finally done. Jay and Phillis were on hand to help me align the quad pipes, it was a right nightmare getting them all in line as i needed to make double sweeping bends to get from the silencer outlets to the bumper, a total of three 90* bends and two 45* bends per tailpipe.

Work started by taking the outlets down to the old boot floor, and adding flanges to them, these flanges allow the tail sections to be separate and changed in future if needed.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/02/300.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/02/301.jpg

From these flanges i made the tail sections...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/02/302.jpg

With the whole lot fitted it looks like this...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/02/303.jpg

Almost mm perfect alignment, made possible by Phil and Jay using a pen to get the gaps between the tails and a Costa coffee stirring stick to get them level! I wanted to sight it all up but they insisted on using their patented Pen Alignment Nano Technology System, or PANTS! as it's known, couldn't have done it without them so thankyou chaps.

With the system fabricated i removed it all for seam welding, i only got as far as seaming the tailpipes but here is the rejigged R8 silencer just before welding...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/02/304.jpg

So as soon as the system is fully welded i'll get to hear what she sounds like.

[snowtigger]

I likes the look of that, I also like those Porsche big half moon little half moon quad pipe ends like you say mate you can always change the tails with this system.

Envious you bet your ass I am, I will need to come up to yours some time could do with making a bigger battery carrier and hear this zorst.

[headcase]

Looking good paul . :-D

[Paul Woods]

Thanks! What about the car though? :icon_gayfight:

[headcase]

I was talking about the car . Ha ha

[MRV6]

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/02/303.jpg



Four just like (West Brom) today mate, I like the symmetry.

You need to patent the P.A.N.T.S. just incase Lexus or ferrari get hold of it.

[jevansio]

You gotta get down this weekend and fire this up!!! :)

[Goldy]

I'm really digging those exhausts!

[Paul Woods]

Finally got the R8 exhaust system fully welded up and fitted today, she sounds much much better than the old TVR silencer, nice and quiet at idle but still with a nice bellow when revved, looking forward to hearing it under load now.


http://youtu.be/5imOKO0ucQI

[cdwood2010]

Spiffing work! Can't hear it very well on the iPhone but will have a proper listen later.

:)

[MRV6]

Paula I'm sorry mate but that sounds nothing like it does in the flesh. When you revved it today it sounded angry and damned fooking awesome, then it settle down like it was cuddling a teddy bear on tick over. Well it did when you took the battery charger off. Get her finished for the JAE so everyone can hear her in the flesh.

[Goldy]

Nice work paul, sounds good, you got that zorst for a bargain too! My mate building the v8 crx hasn't seen one on ebay for under a grand!

[Paul Woods]

Yeah i know Phil, bloody iphone has a shit microphone, might have to invest in a decent video camera.

It was a bargain indeed Goldy, i just got lucky there.

[MRV6]

I think Jay has a hd camera mate.

[Clarky_X]

Although I don't have a Two any more, I'm still waiting with baited breath to see how this insane demo turns out. Has it all gone quiet because Paul is busy getting ready for a big reveal? I hope everything is OK.

Stephen

[Paul Woods]

Paul has zero time these days to work on it, it is mechanically finished, just needs bodywork, sadly it will have to go on hold until i have time to do it.

[guitariste47]

Sounds brilliant, like an american muscle car to me (it's a compliment !)a ac cobra or a Mustang Selby!

[Paul Woods]

I'm hoping to resurrect this build this winter if all goes to plan, i want to revamp the gearbox layout using the new OB1 trans, this will allow the engine to sit 7" further back, i can address a few issues and reclaim some cabin space.

That is the plan anyway, we shall see.

[Peebs]

I'm hoping to resurrect this build this winter if all goes to plan, i want to revamp the gearbox layout using the new OB1 trans, this will allow the engine to sit 7" further back, i can address a few issues and reclaim some cabin space.

That is the plan anyway, we shall see.


Go go gooooo....

We might need to post a few packs of Hobnobs up to Paul this winter to keep the man well fueled for completion.

GL with the new plans, sounds awesome, btw.

[Paul Woods]

Well i'll never give up on it mate, just got to allocate some time for it.

[cdwood2010]

Well i'll never give up on it mate, just got to allocate some time for it.

Anything we can do to help Paul?

Get some beers in and i for one am happy to pitch in one weekend.

:)

[Paul Woods]

That's very generous mate and much appreciated, but it's not something i can be helped with if you know what i mean.

The plan is to remove the engine, make it fit the OB1, which will mean a custom adapter for the flexplate (been meaning to get this sorted for ages), redo the engine mounts further back, redo the gearbox mount and the exhaust system..... it's a ton of work but hey, i'm into it this far!

[jasper]

Nice one, should be finished for Christmas then......

















Christmas 2030 that is :)

[Peebs]

Well i'll never give up on it mate, just got to allocate some time for it.

Um, "givin' up on" it is not an option matey....if you do - even a hint of it, I'll drive up there with some of the other TB lads, interface your brain electronically with Goldie's, bolt Ollie to the floor with the spray-gun and stopper in hand, weld your arms to mine for twice the input and get Phil to kick us all up the arse and take the piss till it's finished. Tiggs can provide the soundtrack, Geoff the inspiration, MrBodgit the "quick-fixes", Adam the CNCing, John the style, Patrick the bling, Jeff the BSM, Nik the dollars and Jasper can support us all. lol

Sorry if I missed anyone, its late and hope this ain't too much of a hijack :)

[snowtigger]

I'll just talk bollocks for a couple of hours and drink loads of tea.

[Peebs]

...and provide the soundtrack...2GR pie anyone ?


Tiggs can provide the soundtrack

[Paul Woods]

Tiggs will just stand there saying it should have a 2gr instead...... he should lead by example and own one himself! :)

[Peebs]

Tiggs will just stand there saying it should have a 2gr instead...... he should lead by example and own one himself! :)

Haha, yeah - pity it can't be done, eh ? xD

[snowtigger]

If you had fitted a 2gr you wouldn't need 2 mk1s and it wouldn't have taken you 3 years and 3 different engine gearbox combinations on the silver one and 2 engine choices on the red one.

LOLS 2GR mk1 FTW !!!

[Paul Woods]

A new year and a new start, today the V8 was pushed outside (would have driven but no fuel in it) so that i could wash a years worth of crud off it and clear the spray booth so my wide arched red Mk1 can get painted before show season.

Seeing the car outside again has given me the bug to start work on her again as soon as the red one is painted, this year both of these cars will be completed, that is my new years resolution.

Both of my babies side by side...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/01/7.jpg

The V8 on its own, can't wait to see this all one colour...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/01/8.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/01/9.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/01/10.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/01/11.jpg

[racerADS]

Good man. What a nice pic it will be with them both painted and shining in the sun outside the shop.

[adamh]

lllook forward to seeing the stocker painted..

[snowtigger]

When there both done take the same pic again a before and after shot, well done for getting your mojo back at last get the beast done.

And at least yours has moved more this year than a certain black 2gr mk2 has all last year.

[boondougal]

Great pics, love the way both these cars sit and the wheels on both work soooooo well.

I pushed mine out the garage the other day as well, definitely nothing like a seeing it on the drive as inspiration to get it complete!

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/01/12.jpg

[loadswine]

Brilliant, glad to see these two again and hopes of finished niceness this year! :)
I also spotted one of my favourite cars in the background in one of the pics too. Just waiting patiently for its 2GR I would think!

[decipherer]

When there both done take the same pic again a before and after shot, well done for getting your mojo back at last get the beast done.

And at least yours has moved more this year than a certain black 2gr mk2 has all last year.

Can't help feeling called upon by that last sentence :icon_wink:

Those pictures actually almost want to make me buy a mk1! Will look great when painted!

[snowtigger]

That makes two black mk2s then that haven't moved lol.

[sketchy]

there is nothing like having your project in the day light, to make you realise its happening, and you can get there...

might have to move mine out the shed again to be sure...lol

[Paul Woods]

Brilliant, glad to see these two again and hopes of finished niceness this year! :)
I also spotted one of my favourite cars in the background in one of the pics too. Just waiting patiently for its 2GR I would think!

Yes Nige she's here for the 2gr treatment, one of my alltime favourite Mk3s, oh yeah and getting rid of those buggy clocks, such a shame they never worked out in the long run as they look amazing, that's bloody Vauxhall for you!

Thanks for the encouragement folks, i'd lost my way but seeing the V8 outside has made me realise what a beauty she's going to be when painted, so a big push this year will see it done.

[guitariste47]

Amazing Paul; all the best

[Torero]

Looking great Paul :thumbsup:. I really hope you manage to get them to some of the shows this year I would love to see the V8 and even more so to see the reaction it gets.

[rexer200]

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/toyota/mr2/toyota-mr2-mk1--4-2-v8-6-speed--woodsport/1282341

Didn't even know you sold it?

[pistol pete]

????
I sure he hasn't must've a scam we hope

[rexer200]

The same company in Dorset were selling that stripped out grasstrack Mk1 Paul bought a few months back too

[MartG]

If it is a scam Paul needs to let the PH admin know asap so they can block the ad, and if it has happened before then maybe legal action is needed to stop them using Paul's name and reputation in their scam ads