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Paul Woods
24-04-2005, 11:10
Is it needed or not? the mk2 turbo has it...ive found with running bigger wheels its harder to steer at low speed,im fairly sure ok im confident....bollox! i KNOW i can make a mk2 power rack work on a mk1,but is it a good idea?

One of them pollie things for you ...

nik
24-04-2005, 11:55
hmm..good question..
one of the great things i think about mk1s is the lack of power steering..
the feel you get through the wheel is very positive and i think PS may fudge it a little..
its only an issue when driving slowly like parking for instance that fat rubbers make the wheel heavy...PS is for girls..!
plus its a bit more weight..!
but do it anyway mr.woods..

Driftin_AW
24-04-2005, 12:08
I have to agree, the steering in a mk1 isn't that bad, although my front tyres are only 195's atm, but the mk2's I've driven still have reasonable feedback, so I don't know if it'll improve it, but do it anyway! :D

adamh
24-04-2005, 12:33
if you could make it operational at low speed only, perfect!.. i wouldnt like it at high speed tho especially with that back end that loves to slide when the foot go's down, it would be fun then!.. but as it stands , the rack is slow and you can usually catch the back end. for parking, it would be a godsend, how about a bypass valve at a a certain rpm?..is that possible?..

Paul Woods
24-04-2005, 16:15
that was exactly the operation i was intending adam,a speed sensor mounted somewhere or PS ecu taking input from the purple/white wire (speed signal) on the mk1 clocks so that it only worked below 20 mph....i think it'd be a godsend for parking....even if it was just on a simple switch (mk2 PS is electric) it would work wonders....i dunno needs more thought but one ive always fancied having a go at,especially with the monster wheels ive got on this thing!

adamh
24-04-2005, 18:18
the mk2 system, how does it pump when you turn the wheel?

Paul Woods
25-04-2005, 06:37
i believe its assisted by an electric motor adam but i havent seen one yet.

Paul Woods
03-05-2005, 18:36
well! this one has taken an unexpected twist! i emailed a mate who ive just done a NA to rev3 turbo conversion for (mk2) to ask if he knew anyone with a mk2 PS rack i could mess about with,only turns out hes got the rack,pump/motor/PS ecu/harness the whole shootin match that i can have!!!

The reason im thinking of going ahead? well ive got 17x8.5 inch wide azevs coming for the front of lily and knowing what 7.5's are like at low steering speeds i think im going to need to make this mk1 more like a mk2 at low speed.....so im going to attempt a world first mk1 PS conversion,keep it under ya hats,dont want the yanks getting wind and beating me to it once again!

Of course i will get the usual,it'll spoil a mk1's handling,it'll never work,why bother brigade trying to piss on my chips but my argument for that is it works on a mk2....and this isnt a mk1,its a 1.5 with a whopping supercharged V6 in the back and wheels wide enough to clean the gutters....on BOTH sides of the road!

The plan is to get this grafting at 20mph and under,i certainly dont want or need PS above that.....watch this space fellas.

MegatronUK
03-05-2005, 19:05
Like you say, you can always go for the easy option of making it a switch on/off feature, for parking, for example. Even wiht my old Metro GTi... parking with those ultra low profile 195/40 tyres could be a pain!

nik
04-05-2005, 07:29
well seeing as though you havent had the hastle of sourcing parts then i reckon its a do-er..certainly for below 20mph would be worthwhile..
im so jealous that i havent got my car to play with..

Paul Woods
04-05-2005, 18:46
well chaps this has now turned from a daft "is it possible" idea into a definate reality....ive just been handed all of the power steering gear from a mk2,this includes the power rack,pump,PS ecu,PS driver and a few pipes....i have to say its all looking very good up to now!
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/05/3.jpg

So i started by taking off my mk1 rack to compare the two to see if this will actually bolt up....the first thing that became apparent was the length difference,the actual PS rack bodies are pretty much the same give or take a cm or two,but the track rod arms are much longer,so these will need cutting down,sleeving and welding.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/05/4.jpg

The rack mounting points are almost the same,the drivers side mount will bolt straight up but the passenger side will need a custom bracket fabbing.

Ive had to cut a much larger hole in the bulkhead where the rack pokes through to meet the steering knuckle,but in general i cant see a problem with actually mounting the rack.

I will also need to make a custom knuckle joint that is mk1 on the column side and mk2 on the rack side,no significant problem there.

Plumbing will be tight,the feed pipe and return pipe will actually enter the cockpit under the pedals so these will have to do an about turn back towards the front compartment.I dont have a mk2 fluid reservoir but i found one from a ford escort thats perfect for the job.

Wiring up the PS ecu and its driver box seems fairly straight forward,this will ensure i have full power steering at very low speed but no PS at normal speed taking its speed signal from the mk1 clocks,exactly what im after!... i will update this as i go along.

Nik if you fancy something to do by converting this thread into an article for the downloads section feel free bud,or if you are too busy i will do it when i get time...this is guaranteed to be a mk1 world first,as long as the crazy merkins dont get wind! Either way im not going to give up on this one until its got PS exactly like a mk2.

Driftin_AW
05-05-2005, 08:28
this should be very interesting.
Anyway, can't you just swap the track rods over, rather than cutting and welding them?

Paul Woods
05-05-2005, 18:24
well...thats what i thought about doing but the rack body itself is about 20mm longer so id need to adjust them anyway,plus the mk2 rods are thicker with more substantial track rod ends with nice clean threads....its much easier for me to cut,sleeve and weld so it looks factory.

On that note i took some rough measurements,the mk1 rack from one extreme to the other is approx 124cm,the mk2 rack is 144cm so i will need to lose 10cm from each track rod to keep things right.

Paul Woods
05-05-2005, 19:02
right heres what happened today,quite a lot really... i made the hole big enough in the bulkhead to get the PS rack poking through....the skweemish should look away....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/05/6.jpg
I had to fab the passenger rack mount and modify it so that it was clamped.... this mount needs filling with polyurethane to make its own mounting rubber....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/05/7.jpg
so i got a bag of poly ready to make the passenger rack mounting....
This stuff will also be making my front and rear torque mounts on the gearbox solid....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/05/8.jpg
Here is the whole rack bolted up....the drivers mount just works as it is....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/05/9.jpg
And then i needed to cut a hole inside the frunk to route the hydraulic pipes through....this then had a plate with an oval welded over it so that it looks neat...
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/05/10.jpg
Got a bit of cosmetic bits n bobs to do here but you get the idea

So here it is all fitted up with the pipes connected....i will make a rubber boot to sit over this lot to form a seal over the hole ive made,should look like toyota did it by the time ive finished....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/05/11.jpg

And the pipes coming into the frunk....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/05/12.jpg

Still a load to do....next up is mounting the pump and reservoir,chopping the rack rods to the correct length and figuring out how to wire the PS ecu and its driver box.... :shock:

Driftin_AW
06-05-2005, 00:02
excellent progress paul, one question though, will the clutch pedal hit any of the new "cabin additions" at full travel?

Paul Woods
06-05-2005, 06:18
good point! i checked that as i went along and although the pedal comes very close it manages to miss everything.....only just! if it did foul anything i was going to reshape or grind the pedal to suit.

I did have to convert the rack fluid return pipe (the one on the left) from a union that just had a pipe sticking out 2 inches to a banjo type that sits flat so that the pedal clears.

Driftin_AW
06-05-2005, 07:41
excellent, you have far more guts that I, putting all those holes into your car. I had a hard enough time cutting the hole for the intake manifold, although I did kinda content after doing it...
how are you planning on switching the PS on and off? you wouldn't want it switching on and off when you're driving right on the change over point, would need a switching device that would have a reasonable buffer built in to it. Have you considered connecting the sw20 ps ecu as it normally is, as I believe it is progressive, reducing assistance as speed increases? This might be a bit safer than having the steering suddenly going from full assistance to nothing? Maybe you could even alter the speed signal to it, make it think you're going twice as fast as you really are, so it reduces the assistance more quickly

Paul Woods
06-05-2005, 18:28
yep i have in fact got the whole mk2 power steering ECU and the pump driver box as well.....ive even got the heavy duty power relay that switches the whole lot on.....the ecu looks fairly simple to wire,it takes speed signal input and luckily we have such a wire coming from the mk1 clocks....it also takes input from a steering sensor mounted on the mk2 column,this i dont have but im sort of hoping its not that important,hopefully the speed signal will be enough to progressively alter the pump voltage,if not i will need to find a way to incorporate the mk2 steering sensor onto the mk1 column.

Another thing is the PS ecu has outputs that go to the Engine ecu,these are for idle up so that on full lock it raises engine rpm a few hundred....now we know theres no such provision on a 4a-ge ecu to accept PS idle up but luckily the V6 ecu comes equipped with idle up for power steering....lucky eh?

My mate(mk2 owner) reckons hes bridged his PS relay so that its running full blast all the time and he says it will be fine like this....he cant see the point of all the ecu gubbins ,he thinks the mk2 drives far better with the relay bridged.....who knows?

Paul Woods
06-05-2005, 19:04
not much done today but i got the pump mounted,so i suppose thats quite good!
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/05/14.jpg

It sits pretty neatly next to the brake master,looks quite stock...ive made sturdy brackets to hold it in place and routed the pipe from rack to pump...all looking good so far.

Paul Woods
09-05-2005, 17:55
more mk1 PS nonsense for ya!

I removed the PS rack to cast my own polyurethane left side rack mount,i had to make my own custom bracket to hold that side of the rack so i made a cardboard mold around the rack....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/05/20.jpg

Mixed up a bag of polyurethane casting compound(75 shore) and poured it in.....the cardboard is the same shape around the rack as the bracket that holds the rack to the car so the bush should be perfect...
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/05/21.jpg

Also today i shortened the track rods so that the overall steering rack width was the same as a mk1,give or take 10mm which can be adjusted at the track rod ends.This involved cutting 10cm out of each rod and welding them back together....i wouldnt trust anyone else with this job,nor do i condone the welding of steering arms,i wouldnt dream of doing this to anyone elses car....but this is my car,my responsibilty,and me who will drive it and suffer the consequences....but i have 100% faith in the strength of what i do so im happy.

Here you can see the new rod with the section i cut out beside it...the mk1 rack is above it for comparsion...
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/05/22.jpg

nik
10-05-2005, 05:16
excellent progress matey..looks like it was made to go in there..oh wait, it was..!
RS supllied you okay then..?!

Paul Woods
10-05-2005, 06:19
yeah RS are pretty good when it comes to this sort of thing...

Paul Woods
10-05-2005, 18:39
today saw the rack bush i made trimmed off,the rack refitted to the car and the shortened track arms installed.....this is the rack side of things finished,just the knuckle joint to work out (cut a mk2 PS knuckle and weld to it a mk1 knuckle)....i know,i know,im going to die horribly ayrton senna style at 150mph :( Wasnt that a welded steering joint failure?

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/05/23.jpg

Driftin_AW
11-05-2005, 06:29
assuming you do die in a high speed crash, can I have your brakes?

Paul Woods
11-05-2005, 06:42
all yours malcolm....you may have to wipe my entrails off them though :D

Driftin_AW
11-05-2005, 07:20
could you try and angle your corpse away from them? :D

Paul Woods
11-05-2005, 07:45
well seeing as the last thing to go through my mind will be the bulkhead i dont think i will have time to alter my trajectory but i will do my best bud :lol:

Driftin_AW
11-05-2005, 09:25
cheers mate, you're such a gentleman

Paul Woods
11-05-2005, 18:40
its official....im an asshole of neanderthol proportions!! please dont laugh at me ive been upset about this all day but if you want a comedy moment read on........

Ive been working on getting this conversion done for the last week or so now,mounted everything,modified the rack..pump...ecu..driver..the lot....finally made a really snazzy job of welding a custom knuckle joint and it all mated up perfectly....then came the big moment to test it out,

THE WHEELS TURN THE OPPOSITE FRIGGIN WAY TO THE STEERING WHEEL!!!!!!!!! ARRGGHHHH!!! :lol: gotta laugh havent you,otherwise id cry!

In my bloody thick irish single minded one track determination to make this a doer id clean forgot that a mk2 rack is mounted and connected in front of mk2 hubs.....mount the same system on the rear of mk1 hubs and the wheels turn the other way!!!!

How could i have overlooked something so feckin obvious???? ive knocked my stuffing out this week to make this a reality but instead the whole idea lies in tatters...im totally embarrassed that ive neglected such a primary school detail...im going to kill myself now.....

ties rope around neck
throws rope over tree
kicks chair away........maybe things will look better tomorrow :cry:

podge
11-05-2005, 22:29
itd really confuse someone trying to nick it hehehe

seriously tho gutted for you mate itl all seem like a bad dream soon :wink:

adamh
11-05-2005, 23:25
drive in reverse through the rear view mirror :D .. wimen do it every day..

what a moment of realisation!.. top that :ha:
hmm, surely you could swap some hydraulics about? pipes? is it not a do-able thing?.. there must be a way.. flip the rack over?

Driftin_AW
12-05-2005, 07:12
that sucks mate. could you make a simple 2 cog gearbox to reverse the direction of rotation? That would also allow you to alter the steering ratio by swapping gears. A search of some wreckers might reveal a PS rack from another car that would work instead

Paul Woods
12-05-2005, 07:16
ive found the answer!!!

In toyotas infinate wisdom they didnt just use the same rack for the LHD cars and flipped it over.....yep you guessed it,they made an entirely new LHD rack!!! yeeehhhaaaa! so all i need to do is source a rack from the states (already got someone on the case) and flip that over onto my mk1 and it should work as planned!

The project is back on boys!

nik
12-05-2005, 10:42
thank fook for that..was about to change your user name to something else just then.. :wink:
thats seriously good news mate..phew.. 8)

Paul Woods
12-05-2005, 17:46
yeah ive pulled this one from the brink of disaster it looks like....still cant believe i overlooked the basic operation of the rack!!! :oops:

adamh
12-05-2005, 21:30
at 7.16 a.m :idea: !.. slept with one eye open again,..or was it both!.. drums roll again,..cor..they are gettiing worn out...

Paul Woods
15-05-2005, 08:40
yeah i didnt sleep a wink mate....woke up at 7am,it hit me like tyson,ran downstairs and hunted through my EPC....there it was! a LHD rack in the mirror image of mine!

Not only that but my new hero of the hour is KIRKOSAURUS from the 1.5 board on mr2oc.com ,hes only gone and removed this from his parts car,
http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/kirkosaurus/mkiisteeringrack003.jpg
Note how the input shaft sits below the rack,just like mine does,so if i flip this onto the RH side it will work opposite way round to my PS rack.

He doesnt want anything for it,hes shipping for free as well!! ive offered to pay but he insists! in return im finding him a few uk parts and cutting him a set of 1.5 engine mounts out,but he has really pulled this one out of the fire for me.....nik can we have a 1.5 lifesaver hall of fame section,cos this guy deserves to be at the very top of it! If you're reading this kirk many thanks mate,without guys like you many swaps wouldnt get finished...you have made a friend for life,anything you ever need its yours.

kirkosaurus
20-05-2005, 00:49
no problem Paul. Thanks for the kind words. I just want to see you complete this project! The parts you are collecting for me and the service you give to the MK1.5 community is payment enough!

Paul Woods
21-05-2005, 08:22
well kirk came through for me big time,the rack arrived yesterday...here it is next to my JDM rack....USDM rack is top...
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/05/38.jpg

See the important difference,the USDM rack has the pinion on top of the rack when flipped over to the RHD,this will make left left and right right!
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/05/39.jpg

So 30 minutes later i bolted the USDM rack into place,it actually fits far better than the JDM rack and the plumbing for the rack routes far neater.Here's the rack fitted and bolted to my ayrton senna steering knuckle....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/05/40.jpg

SO the moment of truth! YES! it works! not a lot to ask that when you steer in a direction that the wheels do the same! but the conversion is back on again! I know ive thanked kirk already but he has truly saved my ass on this one,what a guy! Thankyou kirk.

Now that everything mechanical is in place and connected up i need to mount the PS ecu and its driver box,and wire it all up.....the big problem with that though is my JDM ecu and driver box have completely different pinouts and number of wires than UK or USDM spec power steering equipped cars....everyone seems to have a copy of the USDM diagrams,me included but until i find a JDM diagram im a bit stuck! The only other way to do it would be to ditch all electronic control and hardwire the pump onto a switch or maybe make my own control system?

kirkosaurus
22-05-2005, 05:04
Stop it Paul, you're making me blush. :)

No big deal. It's just a part I had that was going to the dump with the car anyway. Just glad you could use it. That's what I like about the MR2 community, everyone is always willing to help each other out.

nik
22-05-2005, 08:14
"ayrton senna steering knuckle" :ha: :ha: :ha:

nice one kirk..

Paul Woods
22-05-2005, 08:31
:lol: yeah you just know when the crash investigators are pulling my car out of the hedge someones going to say "look some eejit has welded the steering column!!" .....little do they know ive also welded the suspension,steering arms,rear brakes,engine mountings......now thats faith in ones welding ability!

If its good enough for aryton its good enough for me!....oh it wasnt :shock:

nik
22-05-2005, 08:52
there you go...TBs first lifesaver award um..awarded...
congrats

Paul Woods
07-06-2005, 18:50
i turned a bit of attention back to the power steering conversion today,just to take a break from roofing!

I finished off mounting the reservoir in the bay,and got it plumbed up too...just fancy brackets and pipes really.The reservoir is off a supra,keep it all toyota if you can,thats what i say.
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/06/11.jpg
Im pretty happy with this,it all looks neat and fairly stock.

Next job was to mount the PS ecu,solenoid and driver box,these all fit between the pump and battery tray.The bracket that normally holds the spare wheel came in really handy,both bolt holes lined up with my ECU brackets,jammy get!
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2005/06/12.jpg

Thats the PS mechanically installed,all i have left to do is spaghetti,and theres lots of it! im waiting for a Uk spec wiring diagram to arrive before i start.

Paul Woods
01-07-2005, 18:44
a little update...i still cant find a wiring diagram for a JDM power steering car,so i have two choices,keep looking or find a UK spec PS ecu and driver box for which i do have the diagrams!

meanwhile i wired up the power steering pump straight to the battery (to give full assistance at a standstill as it would do even under ecu control) and the first two attempts saw it blowing the feed hose from pump to rack off! no ribs on the hose fitting to blame so i welded some ribs on and doubled the number of hose clips on it (2) and tried again.....it works incredibly well,the steering is fingertip light at parking speeds even with my 215/40/17's up front, a quick flick of the wrist sees it lock to lock with no effort,i really do need to get the ecu control involved though,full assistance at speed would be horrible...so it works anyway which im happy about,pretty noisy though,not sure how its supposed to sound!

nik
02-07-2005, 16:36
good stuff...knew it was gonna be light and you DO NOT want that at speed...guess you could just have a 'parking mode' switch in the short term..though best have a dual switch thingy , dont wnat it coming on mid corner..!

Paul Woods
03-07-2005, 07:59
absolutely! im really struggling to find a jdm wiring diagram...not even sure if they exist,i might have to ditch the jdm ecu and driver and find some UK equipment,plenty of diagrams for those.

adamh
03-07-2005, 14:09
hmmm, i think i have a spare ps ecu at work, not sure wether its jap or uk, i'll take some snaps tom'w at work.

Paul Woods
03-07-2005, 16:32
what? you've got a mk2 ps ecu? and driver box? mate if you have those and they are uk i will come down there and build that mk1 turbo for you!!

adamh
03-07-2005, 17:46
heres a pic from me engine archive..thats defo ps bits.. not sure what the second pic is of.. ! i thought it something to do with ps when i snapped it.
any good to ya?
http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/hm2.jpg
http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/hm.jpg

Paul Woods
03-07-2005, 17:52
oh you've got me all excited now....the black and silver boxes in the first pic are ecu and driver...adam any chance you can chuck up a pic of the multiplugs on the ecu and driver box,its hard to tell if those are the same as mine...oh hang on you got that lot from your turbo donor didnt you? damn that probably means they are JDM units and the same as ive got....its UK driver and ecu i need but if you wouldnt mind a multiplug pic of both just to confirm mate.

adamh
03-07-2005, 18:04
. so you need 2.0L 3sge parts?.. lets have a snoop. i'll get some snaps tommorow at work..them shots where on my HD

Paul Woods
04-07-2005, 06:29
yeah i think i need 2.0 3s-ge UK parts,even the JDM Mk2 NA in my local scrappy has the same ecu and driver ive got,for which there is no wiring diagram....ive got diagrams coming out my ears for UK and US cars.

I dont even know if UK Na's came with PS? i presume they did?

nik
04-07-2005, 06:31
paul i think all mk2s had PS cos theyre driven by girls..pfft..(not that youre a girl for having it on a 1.5..thats completely different)

Paul Woods
04-07-2005, 07:30
no matey a lot of UK mk2 NA's come with no PS,just a can of spinach in the glovebox....i owned a mk2 for 2 years (there ive said it,im out) and it was terrible as it didnt have PS and a brute to drive....even for a girl like me :D

adamh
04-07-2005, 18:54
closet 2 driver.. :shock: ..

here... closer shots.. oo and i found something else in my booty of clipped treasure not standard thats needs i.d.. all double dutch to me..http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/ecu1.jpg
http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/ecu2.jpg
http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/ecudriver1.jpg

Paul Woods
05-07-2005, 06:28
yep,thats the same as ive got....bugger!!! you see the driver box has about 20 terminals,Uk and USDM diagrams show that unit having only 9 wires and the ecu as having about 18...and as you see the ecu has about 6 big thick terminals and 5 thin,so JDM and UK systems are completely different,why do toyota do that!!!! if only i could find a JDM diagram for these it would be job sorted....ah well im sure either a diagram or UK spec boxes will turn up!

Many thanks for the pics mate,it was worth a shot.

adamh
05-07-2005, 18:46
always worth a shot, ah.. and that other silver thing up there is an abs ecu.

EHolmes
02-12-2006, 21:49
hi
my name is Ernie an im in the States.i was just wondering if the power steering conversion ever got done and is there a final write up on it on.ive often wonder if this could be done.so id like to see how the final product came out.
thanks
Ernie

Paul Woods
03-12-2006, 09:32
hi ernie,welcome to TB bud,yep the power steering is one of the few things on my car thats actually completed! works a treat,no idea how good it is at speed yet,time will tell.

So for you to convert your US car,you will need to follow what ive done in this thread only you will need a UK or JDM power rack so that you can flip that upside down on your LHD car,otherwise you will fall into the same idiot category as me and have wheels that go left when you steer right!

millentubby
03-12-2006, 14:53
I said no, but not because it's a waste of time.

If I did do it, it would be for the technical challenge.

If I didn't, it would be because the mk1's steering is spot on and better than the mk2 so why put mk2 steering in a mk1?
Mk1.5's aren't supposed to be practical....I'd hate to have a car for fun that I modified so it made 'shopping' easier.
Weight....surely we're all on a quest for fast and great handling cars here, and the key to both of these aspects is low weight....so why add it for something you don't need and encourages you to go shopping!

Nobody ever had to parrallel park outside an autofactors ;)

Paul Woods
03-12-2006, 16:07
id agree with that,the power steering conversion is really only for nutters that put very powerful engines in and need to fit reediculous sized footprint tyres to get the power down....then its kind of needed for parking etc,other than that its not needed.

kinda cool having the only mk1 in the world with PS though...extra brutal points.

EHolmes
15-05-2007, 17:41
hi paul
i posted before a year ago.my name is Ernie and i was thinking of putting in ps in my mk1. i just have a few questions if you dont mind. when you changed the rack why didnt you use the mk1 tierods and ends instead of using mk2 tierods and ends an having to cut the knockle.or is it that the mk1's dont fit. also you were able to have the ps on all the time with out the ecu,relay? so you just direct wired it to be on all the time ? what if you spliced in an on an off switch to turn the ps on an off without having to use the ecu.
your thoughts would be very helpfull.
Ernie

Paul Woods
15-05-2007, 18:52
hi ernie,the mk2 rack is a different length so it was easier to chop down the mk2 arms.I had to cut the knuckle because the joint had to be shortened considerably.Yep the PS works all the time without the ecu in play,ive yet to see what thats like at any sort of speed though.

EHolmes
17-05-2007, 22:19
hi paul
i still cant figure out why the other rack turned the oppposite way. did you you have the plumping backwards you think or maybe it was wired wrong. ive talked to a bunch of people here an they just kinda scratch there head an say,what? i think im going to try an use a rack from a Corrolla.
Ernie

Paul Woods
18-05-2007, 06:41
ernie it was mk2 PS equipment i used,on a mk2 the rack is mounted in front of the hubs,on a mk1 its mounted behind the hubs,so its operation was reversed,turning left made the wheels go right and vice versa! a silly mistake and i was gutted at the time.....but when i sourced a LHD USDM rack and flipped that upside down it then sorted the problem...so basically if you want to do the same thing you will need a UK RHD PS rack so that when you flip that it will work properly on your LHD car,hope that makes sense.

EHolmes
18-05-2007, 18:13
thanks paul
i hope you dont mind me asking these question.
Ernie

Paul Woods
18-05-2007, 18:18
not at all mate,thats what we're here for :thumbsup:

EHolmes
19-05-2007, 15:45
HI PAUL
so would you be willing to sell me your other rack? it would be a great help, if you dont have plans for it.and if you do you think you could source me a JDM one from over there.
Ernie

Paul Woods
19-05-2007, 17:34
sorry ernie i sold it years ago,you shouldnt have any probs finding a JDM RHD one though.

EHolmes
19-05-2007, 22:26
ok thanks man