Portgordons mk2 v6 swap

[Paul Woods]

Yet another on the WS production line... come on fellas start building mk1 turbos quicker! they are outnumbering us!!!

This car belongs to mark aka portgordon,we have already dropped his old engine out in preparation.... now you see it!

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/06/113.jpg

now you dont!

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/06/114.jpg

here it is on the WS dolly,this thing is working overtime at the moment!

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/06/115.jpg

we suspect the pipe from hell is leaking on this car as well.....deep joy!

[Goldy]

you've been busy! :)

[Lee]

He certainly kept this quiet when we saw Mark last weekend, but he did let slip!

Can't believe he beat me to it!!:)

Watching with interest :praise2:

[biteme]

hmmm... i think Paul is the new Turkish - a busy little bastard :)

[Jiff Lemon]

Has to be said, the Woodsport dolly must be a lifesaver; have shifted my lump around on a makeshift barrel trust with bits of wood and box section supporting it, I can appreciate things like that!

[Garbe]

Thats why i got a pallet truck jiff. took the cue from when fizzy's swap was done.

Paul i thought the pipe from hell was on the turbo - turbo oil pipe?

[Paul Woods]

thats the hose from hell,apparently pipes and hoses are two completely different things :)

[steviek]

hi mark

nice to meet you on sat car looks good now mate with out theengine

cheers steve

[Sponge Bob]

So what's the pipe from hell! i'm liking the colour coordination in that place... red jack, red dolly, red hoist, etc ;)

[loadswine]

Hob Nobs don't half get things done quick!

[whoozy]

He certainly kept this quiet when we saw Mark last weekend, but he did let slip!

Can't believe he beat me to it!!:)

Watching with interest :praise2:

Thats excatly what i was going to say,kept that quiet.

[Portgordon]

:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :popcorn: :popcorn:

:D :D :D :D

WOOO HOOO!

My poor engine though, I feel sorry for it sitting there all naked without it's car shaped clothing :(

I hope it's not the pipe from hell - it looked like it was only leaking from the water pump?

I wasn't expecting it to be started so soon! Chuffed to bits! lots and lots of little chuffed bits!

Cheers Stevie, was good to meet you too, I'll try not to take it as an insult that you think my car looks better without an engine :P Hopefully soon it will have the go of your car!

:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :popcorn: :popcorn:

:D :D :D :D


Cheers Paul!

[welsha]

aye lee, some friend eh?:whistle: At least this one will get driven, oh boy will it get driven :twisted:

[millentubby]

Haha Mark you dirty swine! no wonder you were ringing its neck on the highland drive!

Watching this closely! :)

[Murf]

As before, you kept that quiet!!!
Guess thats why you werent overly concerned about the black oily smoke coming out of your engine lid vents after you nailed it up applecross!!

[Portgordon]

heheheheheheh!

rotflmao rotflmao :jump: :D :blabla: :clap: :jok: :hyper:

Sorry i can't do much but giggle like a little girl.

[cheech]

hehehehehe

im looking forward to the day i'll be giggling like you are at the moment ;)

Got the same colour car as you Mark so can't wait to see what colour scheme you chose for your engine.

great work so far boys at woodsport!

[OlberJ]

The cat is officially out the bag lol

Oh dear, am just thinking about the TB highland drive now. :thumbsup:

[Marksman]

How many of you V6 buggers are there? Just thinking of the combined noise of a TB highland drive past. Worth stamping my passport and venturing north just to hear it :praise2:

All the best,

Owen.

[Paul Woods]

lol owen,passport indeed ,do you think if we brick up hadrians wall high enough we can stop the invasion?

[Marksman]

No need Paul, we just need to build a road to Scotland with a few hairpins and the odd tree at the side. This'll prevent the MK2 girlies making it south but will allow the MK1 boys to head north. Sort of an MR2 diode cum cattle grid sort of thing...

O.S.

[Paul Woods]

a mk2 filter...i like it! :)

[Portgordon]

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/06/115.jpg


Do you think I should be worried that the main tool in this picture is a sledge hammer? :doh:

[welsha]

you not in the pic then mark? :whistle: (i'm at work and none of the pics are showing lol )

[Portgordon]

LOL, no I'm not, but if I was to try a swap myself that would indeed be my tool of choice. :D

[Rosssco]

Nice one mate, you'll need to let me hear this thing once its all workieing and back in Aberdeenshire or at next local meet... :drool:

Cheers,
Ross

[Portgordon]

Of course! :D :D :D :D

[Paul Woods]

the sledgies a must have tool for working on mk2's lol

today i stripped the v6 down....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/06/124.jpg

not a lot else to say about that!

more sledgehammer action to follow tomorrow.

[Portgordon]

more sledgehammer action to follow tomorrow.

8O :fit:

[Jinja]

WOW....You REALLY kept this quite didn't you mate... :)

You did say way back when mine was started you were thinking of having this done.

Excellent choice mate and you will be extremely happy with Paul and his service through out :thumbsup:

Oh and welcome to TB :)

[Portgordon]

Yeah I decided I would keep quiet about it I wanted it to be a surprise - got to say it was hard keeping it quiet though!

I've been talking about getting the v6 for a long time (just nothing definite), basically since I first heard about it which wasn't that long after I got the car. Since then I've looked into it more and read a lot of the threads about it and it just sounded like the way to go! Especially as my car needed work done anyway - clutch is practically gone, oil leaks in a few places, water pump is leaking, potentially the coolant pipe from hell is leaking, engine bay could use a clean (my attempts at justifying it are getting lamer!) etc.... apart from that though my engine was a strong'un and was putting out 172 at the fly!

So I thought whats the point in spending money to fix all of the above when I could spend a little more and have something quite unique and very different. Not to mention the difference will be amazing!!

I was toing and froing over wether or not to get the headwork done, and given the cost and additional time delay I've decided to leave it till later (even though it will be more expensive / difficult to have done later). I will have it done later, but the power / torque on the v6 as standard is very impressive so I'll be happy with that for a while!!

[OlberJ]

Can the heads be swapped in situ on a mk2?

[Portgordon]

aparently so

[OlberJ]

It's a 2 spanners job then.

Get a spare set of heads and get them ported, then swap them yourself on a free weekend. :thumbsup:

[Portgordon]

I'll go and buy that sledghammer first

[fimmo]

good to see the v6 getting more numbers up here in good ole scotland!!!!!! you will not be dissapointed mate!

best mod i've ever done bar none!!!!

when you getting it back (i know its just started lol) think it'll be ready for the next meet? lets face it,pauls chucking these out at an alarming rate now!!!

[Portgordon]

heheh, Cheers Fimmo!

It would be nice to have it for the July meet - 2x v6's would make an interesting one to be sure! I'll show you mine if you show me yours! lol

I'm not putting my name down for the meet though as it might not be ready in time. I'm just leaving it with Paul to do and he can advise on it's progress as he see's fit. :thumbsup:

Would be excellent if it was though ;) ;)

[Paul Woods]

right an update! engine is now fully built....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/06/139.jpg

and the gearbox has been thoroughly cleaned and painted....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/06/140.jpg

This all gets fitted either tomorrow or monday....i expect this one to be fully finished by next friday :thumbsup:

[msherry21]

Stunning, I love the anthracite manifold, stunning! I'll be up for the July meet too, will shove my name down!

[OlberJ]

Will head along to the meet too for a nosey.

:poke2: Whit's with the mk1 Woodsy?

[Paul Woods]

its in for a 3s-gte nosey parker :)

[OlberJ]

It's a mint white mk1b, how can i NOT be nosey? lol

[adamh]

thats a nice paint job on the lump :)

[welsha]

that's a very nice paint job on the engine / gearbox. More polishing mark lol

[Portgordon]

Absolutely Stunning! I'm dead chuffed with that colour scheme - it looks absolutely spot on :thumbsup: :jump:

The gearbox looks mint too!

Was the pipe from hell leaking in the end?

When you say that you expect it to be fuly finished by next friday......do you mean ready to collect?? :fingersx:

Absolutely top work Paul!

[Paul Woods]

we had a long hard look at the pipe from hell,it doesnt look like its ever been leaking,it has some slight discolouration around the brazed bracket but it defo wasnt leaking...oh we flushed out about 10 years worth of rusty silt crap from the cooling system,it was clogging everything up!

We hope to have it ready to pickup by next weekend yes but its too early to say for sure mate,lets see how it goes by midweek.

[steviek]

wow love the colour on this engine second 2 none 2 my red one anyway


gr8 work as always paul

[Portgordon]

Nice one Paul. Thats good news on the pipe :thumbsup: I had to make it a weekly task to remove all of the rust coloured gunk from the coolant filler cap and top up with extra coolant - how do you go about flushing it and do you know where it would have been coming from?

No worries on the eta. As far as I'm concerned if it's finished this month it's a bonus! :D

Cheers Paul!

[Paul Woods]

i reckon its all come from the old engine block,we flushed a hose through the radiator pipes for about an hour until it ran clear,we also did the heater matrix...you may still find the new coolant goes slightly brown as its impossible to get all of the silted rust out of the rad etc....but its not half as bad as it was.

[Portgordon]

Superb! Thanks a million five hundred and forty two point twenty eight!

that'll save me having to spoon out all the gunk from the coolant system each week :)

[Portgordon]

:popcorn:

[Portgordon]

I'm so chuffed that my drunken Keyboard bashing has been erased from history. Not so chuffed that the more recent updates have gone (due to the recent database crash for anyone reading this in the future).....but I'll have the real thing soon anyway!

[welsha]

lol your drunken ramblings are legendary and you will post again soon enough rotflmao

[loadswine]

We're always here to remind you mate! Lol.

[Paul Woods]

lol i feel like last week didnt exist!

just to keep the noobs up to date heres where we are at....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/06/156.jpg

Oh and its started up as well,christ i better check you are still on the swap register! :)

[Paul Woods]

thought id add the money shot....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/06/158.jpg

[nik]

now that is lush..:thumbsup:

[petec]

She's a beaut !

[msherry21]

Love that contrast, thats nicest V6 engine bay I think I've seen.

[Paul Woods]

michael would you like yours to be given a makeover when we replace it mate?

[msherry21]

yeah, that would be great Paul....I'll let you choose the colours mate, although I do like the above so maybe the same apart from the red as its a red car.

[Paul Woods]

no problem,consider it done....sheesh its like changing rooms... :)

[petec]

no problem,consider it done....sheesh its like changing rooms... :)

:gay:

http://www.peterwilkinson.karoo.net/laurence_lb.jpg

[Paul Woods]

oh come on pete,you could of at least pasted my face onto laurence lol

[Portgordon]

OH.....................MY.......................GO D (Jannice Style)

:eek2: 8O 8O :eek2:


:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

That truely is a money shot, I'm closing down all of my porn windows and just looking at this now.

That is absolutely stunning!! I want to be inside it right now! and I mean that in everyway as sexually as it sounds :icon_eek:

That is pure sex wee worthy material!! I really can't wait to get down there on Saturday!!!

[petec]

oh come on pete,you could of at least pasted my face onto laurence lol

Wouldn't you be worried if had photo's of you close to hand!

[Portgordon]

No video?




:hidesbehi
lol

[whoozy]

Hey mark,saw your 2 today and it looks sweet and sounds like a monster.

[Portgordon]

Oh for god sake. I had just replaced my undercrackers after my last batch of excitement and then you go and say something like that!

I soooooooo can't wait till the weekend!

Are you missing your 2 yet whoozy? :D:D:D

[steviek]

hey porty m8


it gets better and better m8 with the sence of power under your foot lol

[whoozy]

Haha,i was missing it before i even got there!!
But it will be a better car when it returns.

[steviek]

just been out in mine today even in the wet its awesome went up the local shopping centre merryhill and went in the mult storey carpark to hear it and its fooking brill

[Portgordon]

Hahahah! I can imagine it would be fun spending a bit of time in a multi storey. lol I'll have to try that

[steviek]

i kept getting lost in there m8 going round and round up and down lol

[welsha]

Hahahah! I can imagine it would be fun spending a bit of time in a multi storey. lol I'll have to try that

we got a tunnel circuit AND a multi storey all set up for you Mark - just hope you dont go blind while driving it:hidesbehi .

[Paul Woods]

i'll grab a vid today of it running for you mark,but only if you calm down a bit and promise to stop interfering with yourself while looking at the engine bay...thats not normal bud! :)

[steviek]

hey paul


hes gonna call his ist born after you mate aint that a ist eh?
even if its a girl lol

[Portgordon]

I promise!

http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/bushbeat/archive/image3s/wolfie-cutout-hand-up-copy.jpg

[Portgordon]

i'll grab a vid today of it running for you mark,but only if you calm down a bit and promise to stop interfering with yourself while looking at the engine bay...thats not normal bud! :)

:popcorn:


lol

[roseward]

:popcorn:

Originally Posted by Paul Woods
i'll grab a vid today of it running for you mark,but only if you calm down a bit and promise to stop interfering with yourself while looking at the engine bay...thats not normal bud!


lol

It's not ?

[loadswine]

Mmmmmmmmmmmm, vid..... I really want to hear the angry devil taking a shit in that portaloo! Lol

[Portgordon]

rotflmao

[whoozy]

Still no vid paul:slap:

[Paul Woods]

yeah sorry we where having too much fun driving mk2 v6's v mk2 turbos and testing mk1 v6 sc's yesterday,work is hell :)

I'll grab one today :thumbsup:

[Marksman]

So which is faster then Paul?

Oh and no putting non standard exhausts or air filters on the MK1V6's or you're cheating and lying and telling fibs all at once :hidesbehi

Owen.

[Portgordon]

lol There is no standard exhaust or air filter for the mrv6's :P

[Paul Woods]

well the mk2 v6 pulls cleanly away from the stock rev2 turbo over the first 50ft by a good car length and then just keeps pulling away through the gears.

However mr sherrys mk1 V6SC obliterates the pair of them by a massive margin,not even close.

[Portgordon]

http://www.will.uiuc.edu/community/images/HomeMovie.jpg

:odd:

[Paul Woods]

er ok...if i drive your car,anth drives the turbo and dean drives the v6 mk1 who is holding the camera lol

[Portgordon]

I just want to hear my baby in action

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/06/2.gif

[loadswine]

ROFL! I think he just meant of his car! Must admit I'm starting to think that angry devil might have haemhorroids by the time we hear him take a dump. Big lol!

[Paul Woods]

give me a ring tomorrow mark and i will let you hear it over the phone lol

i promise if its dry enough tomorrow i will get vids sorted,it pished down big style here today.

[Portgordon]

nah it's ok Paul. lol. Telephones don't transmit things like that well enough imo. I'll bide my time :D

http://www.greenbug.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/02/puss-in-boots1.jpg

[whoozy]

You have a cute pussy there!:nuts: :evil: :shiftyeye :pumped: :nunu: :box2: :box2: :box2:

[welsha]

nah it's ok Paul. lol. Telephones don't transmit things like that well enough imo. I'll bide my time :D

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

is that not just the most pathetic thing you've ever seen posted :D

[millentubby]

Dude have you not seen Shrek? That cat'll fuck you up!

I think it's a well cloaked threat!

"Post vids or I'll set the cat on you!"

[Portgordon]

Yeah, you think he's all cute and innocent and then BAM!!

http://www.alpacamine.com/images/grrrr.jpg

[welsha]

Paul - the boy has lost it. While Mark gets his sanity back I'll look after his V6....

[Paul Woods]

lol yeah i think hes definately got the veesickness,get him sectioned before he hurts someone :)

[biteme]

I'll have the car then! :)

[Portgordon]

i'll grab a vid today of it running for you mark,but only if you calm down a bit and promise to stop interfering with yourself while looking at the engine bay...thats not normal bud! :)



yeah sorry we where having too much fun driving mk2 v6's v mk2 turbos and testing mk1 v6 sc's yesterday,work is hell

I'll grab one today



give me a ring tomorrow mark and i will let you hear it over the phone

i promise if its dry enough tomorrow i will get vids sorted,it pished down big style here today.

:popcorn:

lol

[Paul Woods]

lol next excuse! its taken me all day to make my bloody signage and stuff lol please dont hate me :)

[welsha]

so is the car running then? ready for pick up?.....

[roseward]

Awww ! and i'd stayed up late specially for this :(

[Portgordon]

:poke2: lol, oh dear! Ach well, only one more sleep after tonight before I see/hear it with my own eyes/ears :boogie:

[welsha]

that would be a yes then! We'll just have to conduct our own tests

[Paul Woods]

yeah its been finished since last week welsha,sorry for not doing a vid chaps sometimes things get in the way plus rain etc etc ,might get one today you never know!

[welsha]

s'ok, we'll just have to use the clyde tunnel for testing brm brm bbbbbrrrrrrrmmmm heh heh

[loadswine]

Take some vid on the drive home and share it with us!

[Portgordon]

Well I'm pretty knackered after a lot of travelling this weekend but it's been such a good one despite the weather!

Left aberdeen on the 6am train on Saturday which got me in to Durham at 10:45. Was really nice and sunny all the way down until Newcastle where it started to rain.....and then pretty much didn't stop until I got back to aberdeen this evening where it's nice and dry again!

When I got to Woodsport and Paul said, "Well you'd better get into it and give it a drive".... I was a bit nervous to be honest! The n/a is (was) the most powerful car I've driven... The startup sound is sooooo nice :D My clutch before the conversion was on its last legs and was really high up for the bite, it's always been like that so I'm not really used to a proper one!

I got in and stuck it in reverse to take the car out for a nip around, the thing fairly launched back a bit unexpetedly! lol

I lined it up, stuck it in 1st and let rip and oooooh my gooooood! 8O
I've been for a ride in a few v6's now and been amazed but had never actually driven one! The feeling was just soooooperb!! I'm not used to having that much power on tap and it just felt so good, I couldn't really put it into words so when I pulled back up and paul asked how it was I just sat there grinning, giggling and making unusual noises which were meant to be words.

Chuffed to bits! The drive on the way back gave me plenty of time to test out various aspects of driving, motorway, B-Roads, Acceleration, high speeds etc... Everything about is just superb! On the motorway in 5th at 80mph I'm seeing 4k rpm, which sounds like a lot but it's actually not noticeable at all, and it really does mean that you can just plant the foot and easily reach high speeds without changing gear.

The car is filthy after the driving and the weather so no pics at the moment, but it really is amazing so i can't thank you enough Paul! (other than paying for it of course, hehe)

[Murf]

Wahey, dead chuffed for ya buddy! Cant wait to see it :)

[Garbe]

Congrats mate - well done Paul another happy chappy

[Shugsta]

Vsickness is reaching epidemic levels! Nice one:thumbsup:

[steviek]

well done m8 well chuffed 4 ya enjoy it each day m8

[Paul Woods]

you're very welcome mark,glad shes already putting a smile on your face mate.

[millentubby]

Looked and sounded lovely yesterday - you'll have to take me for a spin next time when it's not raining!

Want one even more now!

[Portgordon]

Thought I would post up some pics now that I've finally had a chance to give the car a thourough clean!

Spent 3 or 4 (lost track) hours yesterday giving it a good wash - even cleaned the Frunk and spacesaver!! Then a further couple of ours today on the interior etc...

I know this site isn't about cleaning :gay: , but thought I'd finish off my build thread with some sparkly pics :thumbsup:

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/07/69.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/07/70.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/07/71.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/07/72.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/07/73.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/07/74.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/07/75.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/07/76.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/07/77.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/07/78.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/07/79.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/07/80.jpg

I love it when it looks like this :th:

[burner]

looks really good, well clean. What are you doing next?

[steviek]

having a beer i bet eh mark

[adamh]

thats a beauty :) , also a real nice location? . i thought about having a clean today.. and it made me too tired lol, so i just scrubbed the poor flies off the front to stop them roting into the paint.

[loadswine]

Super clean car there, looks like new! Well better than new with the V6 in there!!

[Marksman]

Very nice :thumbsup:

Owen.

[Shugsta]

Love it... :thumbsup:

Don't believe I just said that about a Mk2 lol

[Portgordon]

Hehehehe, cheers guys! :D Has made my day knowing that it's well received!!

The location is quite bizarre actually! I had a drive around looking for an ok location to take some pics and as I was driving past the river Dee (in Aberdeen), I saw a nice little empty parking bay right next to the river. Worked out quite well, even if I was getting all sorts of looks from passing drivers lol

Next for the two.... hmmm, well, I have a wheel bearing being replaced on Tuesday and I need to order the Fidanza flywheel & Replace my gearbox (looking at options on that). After that I'll be finishing the body work with some Airwalker (current choice) skirts, border rear spatz and an aftermarket engine lid which I havn't decided on yet.

As all of this is costing a billion dollars and I work in pounds, it will take a while! I have an endless list of where I want to be with my two, but thats part of 2 ownership!

:beer:

Never loved the car more than at the moment :jump:

[steviek]

thats brill mark reminds me i gotta wash and polish mine lol u going to jae m8

[biteme]

Looks like a factory install there mate. Stunning work again from the ladies @ Woodsplurt.

[Paul Woods]

well marks car had an annoying vibration on gearchanges and it came back in on friday for investigation... so we whipped the gearbox off and there was nothing majorly visible causing the problem,slight scuffing of the flywheel bolt heads but not enough to cause the sort of vibration it was having,so we put it down to a defective clutch kit....anyway with a new clutch fitted shes smooth as silk again.

Mark asked me to take this pic during the job,check out our method of supporting the engine with no gearbox mounts attached :)

this is now the official engine support plank lol

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/08/143.jpg

[OlberJ]

How do you get the gearbox to that height to fix it back onto the engine?

[Paul Woods]

we lift it into place matey,strong us durham lads y'know!

[OlberJ]

See that's what i don't get cause it's a complete bastard 2 inches off the ground, is it easier at head height?

[Paul Woods]

yeah pretty much,just lift it onto your shoulder and guide it onto the flywheel,helps if theres two if you....one to take the weight and the other to guide it on.

Gearbox jacks are much easier though,i'll be investing in one pretty soon.

[OlberJ]

Is that the big coatstand dooferyswaff?

[Portgordon]

Heheheh, I just had to chuckle at it, but it really was a bit of genious.

The gearboxes are well heavy, I was well impressed they got it into place. I think a gearbox jack would compliment those lifts nicely though and further help save your backs!

The plank worked a treat though!

Gear changes are smooooooth now, which is nice. No more embarrassing juddering when in traffic :D Many thanks for the excellent service Paul

[Paul Woods]

yeah olie one of these boys...

http://www.mytoolstore.com/astro/5512.jpg

you're welcome mark,just sorry it wasnt perfect first time around,the old clutch is going back to the manufacturer for inspection.

[Portgordon]

Just thought I'd say that my 2 just passed it's MOT without complication. Failed first time round on a brake pipe which was swiftly replaced.

I was expecting the guys to complain about emissions / lack of cat but not even a whisper of such things :D

excellent!

[OlberJ]

Marc, am up in your neck of the woods a coupla times a month now, when/if the V6 is ever done i'd love to come up and compare the 2 before i get into the mk2 swap myself.

Are you actually in Aberdeen itself or nearby?

[Murf]

Marc, am up in your neck of the woods a coupla times a month now

Dirty dawg............

[Portgordon]

Yeah I'm smack bang in the centre of Aberdeen so just give me a shout whenever you're up and fancy a gander / shot in the 2 :) mk1 / 2 Comparison would be cool