3S-GE swap

[MR_Ash_2]

Hi there, was wondering if anyone knows if a 3S-GE engine conversion would go into a Mk1 Mr2? I would love to do the 3S-GTE conversion but can't afford it. Would be grateful if anyone can help. Ps, if it can be done, does anyone know where I might pick up the engine and ancillaries to do the job?

Cheers,

Ash.

rotflmao

[Barronmr]

Hi,

Its perfectly possible but I think the general feeling is that this swap is not worth the effort. The mk2 n/a is around 160bhp, the standard 4age will see a reliable 160bhp with cams and piggyback (around£1000 inc fitting).

If you can do the swap work yourself, your better off getting hold of a camry V6 and starting with that engine.

Regards Luke

[Shorty]

If you search and take some time sourcing parts i think you mihgt do a v6 swap cheaper. Just from what i`ve read here.

[Barronmr]

Can anyone find a cheap v6 anymore? :twisted:

Its just the extra's that add up for the mk1, like sourcing gearbox, driveshafts, mech speed drive etc...

[rattymr2]

if you are after more power/torque without the expense of the 3S-GTE or V6 have you considered a 20v engine. whilst you will only get 150hp it is a direct bolt in replace to the 4AGE lump with only the electrics to sort out.

the 20V engine has quad throttle bodies and a 4-1 manifold as standard as well.

i have a 20v engine with all ancillaries bar a mk1 alternator and oil pressure sender unit which i am selling. it also comes with a modified Janspeed exhaust too.

I will take £750 for it complete which will be about £1500 less than a tubby conversion once fitted and wired in.

i think the tuning potential of the 20V engine with cams and piggyback ecu is 180-190hp and it'll sound really nice too.

[Shorty]

Can anyone find a cheap v6 anymore? :twisted:

I guess the market value has gone through the roof last few years. Wonder whos fault that is:whistle: :angel: :careful:

[OlberJ]

This was my original idea, fit the 3sge then when i had money, swap straight over to the 3sgte.

Scrapped it, saved for a bit and am about to start on a V6. These folk know what they're talking about.

V6 Camrys have started appearing cheap again, there's plenty out there.

[foxy-stoat]

agreed with them lot, but i have a complete 3sge lump with ecu sittin on a pallet ready to go, £250 delivered.

missing a bit of loom, gearbox and flywheel.

[Paul Woods]

agree with all the chaps above,dont waste your money on the 3s-ge swap,it is almost as difficult as a 3s-gte but 100bhp less...plus the extra weight of the 3s-ge over the 4a means the 35bhp you will gain will be almost lost... V6 it or save for a 3s-gte is the best advice we can give.

[rattymr2]

agreed with them lot, but i have a complete 3sge lump with ecu sittin on a pallet ready to go, £250 delivered.

missing a bit of loom, gearbox and flywheel.

Add your mk2 gearbox, clutch, flywheel, loom, chassis mods, exhaust etc and you're looking at £700-800 before you start to get 160hp.

if you are after about 150-160hp cheap i would go for the 20V. at least it'll have some character over the 3sge lump.

[MR_Ash_2]

Thankls for the help, i'll drop the 3sge idea. Never knew a v6 conversion could go in. Does anyone know what sort cost would be involved doing this converion? and where would be the best place to source parts?

Ash

[Paul Woods]

well this forum is rammed with every bit of info you need,a few hours reading will have you fully up to speed.

Quick overview....

Buy a complete 91-96 v6 camry off ebay for under £500
buy a mk2NA gearbox and driveshafts,flywheel and clutch,engine mounts and clutch slave cylinder/bracket
send your flywheel to "fourveesix" for modding,also buy an engine mount bracket from him as well.

Then you need to cut your chassis mounts off,weld in new and hang the engine,same work as 3s-gte swap really.

Theres too much info to type here,read read and read some more is the best advice!

[MR_Ash_2]

Thanks very much, i'll browse to forums, and begin my search for a camry v6! Bring on more power!

[Sponge Bob]

Save up and go 3S-GTE... you won't regret it!! and dude - you seem to have inadvertently stolen my name? I demand you legally change your name to Geoffrey or Bungle!!

Ash

[foxy-stoat]

be quick tho....everytime a camry comes up on ebay, its normally sold within a day or so !!!!!

I wouldnt be put off with the mileage, my one had 150K on the clock and i think Fizzy had nearly 200K, think the former owner was Captain James Kirk !!!!

Just make sure you get one with full history, thats the best way.

Good luck !

[MR_Ash_2]

Had been searching ebay today and not coming up with much. How much do you think a 3sgte conversion would cost excluding labour?

[MR_Ash_2]

Save up and go 3S-GTE... you won't regret it!! and dude - you seem to have inadvertently stolen my name? I demand you legally change your name to Geoffrey or Bungle!!

Ash


No way dude, we posses one of the greatest names so why would i change it, that would be foolish!lol

[Miss.Pitstop]

just wanted to say, loving your avatar MR ASH 2!!! :afro:

[MR_Ash_2]

Hey Miss Pitstop, thanks very much. Love ur MR2, and love the power output even more LOL!, how long did your project take to complete?

[Miss.Pitstop]

long time lol...Paul Woods did it!

[Sponge Bob]

No way dude, we posses one of the greatest names so why would i change it, that would be foolish!lol

Touché my friend... touché!!

[MR_Ash_2]

if you are after more power/torque without the expense of the 3S-GTE or V6 have you considered a 20v engine. whilst you will only get 150hp it is a direct bolt in replace to the 4AGE lump with only the electrics to sort out.

the 20V engine has quad throttle bodies and a 4-1 manifold as standard as well.

i have a 20v engine with all ancillaries bar a mk1 alternator and oil pressure sender unit which i am selling. it also comes with a modified Janspeed exhaust too.

I will take £750 for it complete which will be about £1500 less than a tubby conversion once fitted and wired in.

i think the tuning potential of the 20V engine with cams and piggyback ecu is 180-190hp and it'll sound really nice too.

Thanks mate,lol will definatly think about it. Am still in the planning stages. Need to work out the option thats the least time consuming (which i suppose will be th 20v lump), cause my Mk1 is my only mode of transport. Had to sell my sensible car to pay for this one, which is probably one of the best things I've done.

[mk1gus]

See Ash I told you the 3sge was a girls option!!:jok:
Your just suffering from 3sgte envy hehehehe

[mk1gus]

No disrespect to the girls on here by the way

[OlberJ]

£sgte

Freudian slip? lol

[mk1gus]

yeah sorry:hehe: hoped no one saw that doh!

[MR_Ash_2]

Gus, I think you should give me your 3sgte, cause I am your friend and thats what a friend should do....

[mk1gus]

well that is a possibility but eeeerrrrrrrrrrr NO hehe:hoarder:

I gave you the priviledge of helping remove mine, far to powerfull for you mate,
Think I have an old mower engine somwhere in the garage:shades:

[MR_Ash_2]

Had you on the weekend though!!!!! hehehehe All be it, my brakes were shagged and i nearly crashed into you.

[mk1gus]

true to both, but just you wait till May my friend I'll be bringing the thunder!! and allot of wheelspin

[superchargedsam]

Had you on the weekend though!!!!!

Hmmm i dont think u need to be telling us what u got up to at the weekend really! not compulsory u understand!

[MR_Ash_2]

Strictly MR2 buisness of course