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Limeymk1
06-08-2006, 10:37
Picked up the MZFE, it does look daunting! Anyhoo
Situation is the engine is complete(ish)
Alternator (Check)
Plastic carbon filter box type thing (Check)
Loom - somewhat butchered, it's been cut about a foot from the engine. But all the connectors are still there so it's rebuildable but I think I'll have to strip the loom cover off and redo some bits.
Exhaust manifold - again somewhat butchered. The rear bank is complete past the O2 sensor (still there with wires:shades: ), front bank chopped just after they meet up.
ECU - went to the crusher with the car
COR - see above (what is a COR anyway) :cadet: :imslow:
The guy at the breakers didn't reckon it had done many miles but I'll probably be changing all the rings and bearings anyway, cos he had no record of the millage. I would have taken some pictures but I left the camera in the car and the engine will be residing in my mates barn until I complete on my new house (and garage).
So what do you reckon? :hmm:
Cheers
Chris
Paul Woods
06-08-2006, 11:05
as long as its got the injector plugs and sensor plugs you can easily run a megasquirt or other standalone to power that....thats what id do anyway....
Did it come with the AFM and coilpacks on top of the engine?
Limeymk1
06-08-2006, 11:09
Nothing pre throttle bodies (Twin valves).
I imagine the coilpacks are there as the plastic top hadn't been removed.
I'm trying to download the manual to see what's missing. Really cheesed off I forgot my camera, it would have been useful for checking on things I forgot to look for (such as AFM).
Agree that standalone has to be the way to go with the MZFE, I was considering ITBs as well.
Paul Woods
06-08-2006, 11:18
well i wouldnt worry mate,all standalones these days come with built in MAP sensors so you wont need the AFM anyway
Limeymk1
06-08-2006, 11:22
So what does COR stand for Paul? I'm sure I'll know exactly what it is once I know what it stands for.
Still can't get the bloody manual downloaded!:rant:
robwsurf
06-08-2006, 11:59
Curcuit Opening Relay if i remember correctly
Paul Woods
06-08-2006, 12:03
yep,its a glorified fuel pump safety cut relay for those special moments when you ram your mr2 into a wall and dont want fuel pumping everywhere....not really necessary to be honest as you would be deed anyhoo.
yep,its a glorified fuel pump safety cut relay for those special moments when you ram your mr2 into a wall and dont want fuel pumping everywhere....not really necessary to be honest as you would be deed anyhoo.
rotflmao rotflmao rotflmao
Limeymk1
06-08-2006, 12:38
Gotcha, I know the puppy!:mrgreen:
With a stand alone ECU I guess I could use the Mk1 COR. I've got a Mk2 Turbo fuel pump already so that box is ticked.
Paul Woods
06-08-2006, 12:56
well not quite,a standalone may not have the output feature to hold a COR open after cranking....on the v6 the AFM does the job,but if you are going standalone then no AFM.....so catch 22...to be honest theres no need at all for a COR,just a toyota toy.
Limeymk1
06-08-2006, 13:16
Cheers Paul,
So what does the Mk1 COR use as it's input seeing as there's no AFM or have I got my wires crossed and there's no COR in the MK1?
Chris
Scuse the nooby questions, the electrics of the Mk1 are one few things I haven't played with.
Paul Woods
06-08-2006, 13:27
the mk1 and mk2 use an earthing signal from the ecu that holds the COR open after cranking,the v6's use AFM earthing signal.
Limeymk1
08-08-2006, 08:55
Anyone got any idea on how the VVT-i system is opperated on the 1MZFE?
Driftin_AW
08-08-2006, 12:11
I could sit here for hours. It's just so hypnotic :praise2:
Limeymk1
08-08-2006, 13:04
rotflmao somewhat OT
Paul Woods
08-08-2006, 17:35
who gives a toss about vvti when charlottes there lol
limey its controlled by the stock ecu but i believe some standalones have the fucntions to control it,needs research though bud.
I could sit here for hours. It's just so hypnotic :praise2:
Me too!! I,ve been watching her lips (honest) trying to work out what she's singing/saying!!
Anderson
09-08-2006, 00:17
Who the hell is she? I have sat here trying to read her lips as well, Its like you get sucked in and thats all you focus on!
lodgeman
09-08-2006, 01:43
she is charlotte church! voice of an angel body of a ............... :whistle:
Limeymk1
09-08-2006, 09:15
Cheers Paul! Looks like it may be a bit much for the MS, will have a dig.
Charl's singing 'Boy I love ya' I think, best video she did, can remember what the song's called.:whistle:
What do you think this young lady's saying? (courtesy of locostbuilders, honest)
http://www.123mycodes.com/funny-video-clips/27.gif
Driftin_AW
09-08-2006, 12:09
sorry, can't look at the mouth long enough to make anything out :eek2:
Limeymk1
09-08-2006, 12:26
sorry, can't look at the mouth long enough to make anything out :eek2:
:mrgreen: rotflmao
This VVT-i stuff's damn complicated BTW! :nerd:
Limeymk1
10-08-2006, 10:17
What I've learn't so far:
The 1MZVE with VVT-i generates 230BHP @ 5800rpm and 242ft-Ib torque @ 4400rpm :thumbsup: Earliest car it's from is a 2002 Camry.
The VVT-i is a constantly variable overlap, depending on the engine load. So at start-up there's no overlap between the inlet and exhaust but as the load increases the inlet cam is advanced so there is valve overlap to increase torque and efficiency. This is controlled via a solenoid valve which allows pressurised oil into either a 'retard' or 'advance' channel to adjust overlap. I've got some JPegs of how it works but my pic hosting site's down at the moment.
I reckon if I can find out the voltage range which controls the solenoid valve I could get the MS to control it, although currently no-one has used a MS to control VVT-i, it has been used for VVT. :thk: Otherwise one of those nice 'volume control' dials on the dash! lol
Weight is about 60Ib less than the 3SZFE.:thumbsup:
Further Update:
VVT-i is Pulse Width Modulated (PMW) in a similar way to the injectors! :icon_eek: According to the few people that have seen the mapping it's absolutely huge!
Driftin_AW
10-08-2006, 11:33
Weight is about 60Ib less than the 3SZFE.:thumbsup:
I'll dispute that, AFAIK the 3SZFE weighs 0kgs, as there is no such thing :P
don't mind me, I really like visiting this thread
Limeymk1
10-08-2006, 11:41
Doh! 3VZFE! :cadet:
Limeymk1
11-08-2006, 12:21
For those that are interested, how it works:
http://star.walagata.com/w/limeymk1/vvti-1.jpg
http://star.walagata.com/w/limeymk1/vvti-3.jpg
http://star.walagata.com/w/limeymk1/vvti-4.jpg
http://star.walagata.com/w/limeymk1/VVTi_Map.jpg
Control's another matter. :sad:
Well I took a quick look through your pics limey, and all I can think of is 'nice browser choice'. mmmm Firefox. :banghead:
damn this is gonna take a while for me to get up to speed enough to put a 3VZ in my polished turd. :D
Oh and it looks like that girl is saying "Push-Up bra please". :twisted:
superchargedsam
14-08-2006, 17:57
think youlll find she is sayin "up my arse" if you watch closely !
Limeymk1
14-08-2006, 18:19
Well I took a quick look through your pics limey, and all I can think of is 'nice browser choice'. mmmm Firefox. :banghead:
damn this is gonna take a while for me to get up to speed enough to put a 3VZ in my polished turd. :D
But I don't use Firefox!:shrug:
I shouldn't worry about the above details, they're for a 2003 1MZFE the VZ doesn't have any of the fancy bollocks that this engine does.
Well after studying the pic for the last 5 days
I still have'nt a clue what she's saying, but the boobs a burned into my memory now lol
For your viewing pleasure... :P
http://mfile.akamai.com/1689/wmv/bmguk.download.akamai.com/1689/charlottechurch/callmyname_256k.asx
Believe she's saying "But I love it........" (when you call my name) I think... :mrgreen:
Apparantly she has been spotted partying in the nightclubs in my local town on a couple of occassions too.. :D
Fizzy ask her if she wants to get Vsixified. :)
Holy crap thats Charlotte Church these days. Well bugger me. :icon_eek:
She can :smack: me anyday :rofl:
Weight is about 60Ib less than the 3VZFE.:thumbsup:
It may weigh less but which one can be pushed the furthest and get the highest HP out of it? :hmm:
Limeymk1
16-08-2006, 09:20
It may weigh less but which one can be pushed the furthest and get the highest HP out of it? :hmm:
Definitely the VZ wins on that front but I don't want mega boost or 8 zillion HP. :shrug:
Limeymk1
22-08-2006, 12:01
Found a cheap stock ECU if I need it $500
http://www.ecudirect.com/ :jump:
bugger me the 94' 1MZ ecus are only US$300. MrT tells me that 3vz ecu's are AU$1100. and cant tell me which one of about 8 or more of them are for which car.
damn gotta find somone who sells megasquirts in Aus.
Limeymk1
29-08-2006, 10:27
bugger me the 94' 1MZ ecus are only US$300. MrT tells me that 3vz ecu's are AU$1100. and cant tell me which one of about 8 or more of them are for which car.
damn gotta find somone who sells megasquirts in Aus.
Plenty of people in the States who'll send the MS kit over to you Sparky.
www.diyautotune.com are a good lot. The guy who runs it is a mr2oc.com regular.
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