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Fizzy
13-06-2006, 20:34
Hi,

Ok, so been doing some reading up on whats required for a V6 conversion for a mk2.

As my current (host) car is a rev 3 turbo, most of the extras required for the engine I already have. (Walbro fuel pump, E153 gearbox, drive shafts, hubs etc). Currently have a Helix stage 1 clutch. Can this be used, or does it need to be a GT4 clutch? (thought there was no difference...?)

So what I need additionally is :-

Engine - probably 3VX-FE. (available up to '97? I take it its only the later 1MZ-FE engine which has the electronic distributer?) I know the 1MZ is a relatively light engine, but how does the 3VX compare weight wise against a 3SGTE?

Flywheel - custom made, or get one imported. Any additional work required on an imported one to fit?

1 Custom mount for engine.

Custom exhaust mainfold (although my mongoose back box can be used?).

I take it the ECU off the donor car will be required (loom too?) - will I also need to mess about with the instrument panel for the rev counter etc to work, or will it work ok after the correct wires have been mated to the mr2 loom? (Any helpfull schematics/diagrams of the V6 ecu connections/wiring around? Got the mr2 bgb. :D ).

Also read that theres a slight difference in the driveshaft lengths on one side. Can a spacer be used in a joining section, or does this require some additional work/parts from what I have listed?

On the more boring stuff - I take it that the custom manifold and downpipe section will not have a cat, and replace existing 3SGTE flexi joint (which is breaking up on mine anyway ;) ). So how does this conversion fall in the mot tests etc?

So much to read up on...... :D Sorry if this has been asked before (which is likely) - had a scan through the forums earlier but couldn't find this info. Probably not looking in the right place so feel free to point me in the right direction.... :D

Jiff Lemon
13-06-2006, 20:50
Ok, sure Paul or Peebs will correct any mistakes:

buy camry,
Remove engine,ecu and loom
Remove knackered turbo engine
Replace O/S mount with the 4V6/Peebs Mount
Fit flywheel, re-use clutch
Fit engine
Re-wire
Hack off downpipes, weld to current setup.
Drive away, giggling like a loony

jasper
13-06-2006, 20:55
Don't forget the BSM lol

Fizzy
13-06-2006, 21:01
Ok, sure Paul or Peebs will correct any mistakes:

buy camry,
Remove engine,ecu and loom
Remove knackered turbo engine
Replace O/S mount with the 4V6/Peebs Mount
Fit flywheel, re-use clutch
Fit engine
Re-wire
Hack off downpipes, weld to current setup.
Drive away, giggling like a loony

Sounds so easy when you put it that way. :P I'm sure its just a little bit more complicated in places - like re-wiring for starters. :D

Jiff Lemon
13-06-2006, 21:13
Have a read of the Mk1 V6 install threads (pauls, Lodges, JB's and Mine) and also have a look at Peebs install thread.

Whilst the Mk1 is a little different, it'll certainly give you the guidance needed for what you need to rip the thing out of a camry.

Post conversion, MOT wise, nothing really changes; technically your emmisions test is based on the engines age, not the car's. You may need a cat but even that isn't going to be a toughy.

Custom manifolds aren't a necessity, but apparently good gains can be had from custom ones (particulary on the Y pipe join).

Fizzy
13-06-2006, 22:47
Hi Fizzy.

If you need any info let us know as peebs and me did the 2nd uk V6, dunno if youve seen the short vid of it in action so have a look here:

Right click, save as:

http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/V6/V6Test2.wmv

Yup, seen that vid already. Very wet surface there too..... ;)

That noise is fantastic. Is that a standard engine it SC'd? trd exhaust?

I'm getting all excited now. :D I think I need to check out a converted car first. Anybody within a reasonable days travelling distance from (very) south wales? :D

lodgeman
13-06-2006, 23:04
i've just picked up a v6 camry! ?250 full service history as well, with 12 months mot, trade in car-just wanted to get rid of. they are around ... just have to look!!
and look
and look
and look............:hehe:

Shugsta
13-06-2006, 23:51
Nice one Lodge. That's one helluva bargain.

lodgeman
13-06-2006, 23:55
well its a case of having too! engine in the mk1 is no good, think its either cooked or engineering company mixed the shims up and now have shitty,crappy,noisy buggered engine>:[

Shugsta
14-06-2006, 00:03
Ah fcuk sake lodge, that's not good mate. I hope this one is a minter and you make loads parting out the remains. If it is a mix up on the shims, is it the kind of thing you can prove was the fault of the engineering company? Good luck.

Paul Woods
14-06-2006, 07:14
right ian here we go!

firstly its a 3vz-fe not 3vx,that'll speed up the search for the right engine lol sorry got my mr pedantic head on today.

you can use all of your turbo equipment,box/shafts the lot but the supported shaft from the v6 engine needs using but you insert the turbo supported shaft into it.Now in doing this the bearing that sits in this carrier will be 4mm too far to the right,so the circlip that holds it in place wont locate.What i did on my mk2 v6 was fit a 4mm spacer behind the bearing and then machine a new slot for the circlip 4mm nearer the diff,its not a big job.The alternative to that is using the v6 supported output shaft ,it will fit without needing to move the bearing but its 30mm shorter than a turbo supported shaft.So to make up the shortfall you would need to get one front GT4 shaft (its 15mm longer than a turbo shaft so should make up enough of the difference) and then take the outer CV joint off it and slide the turbo outer CV onto that shaft,that should work,but to be honest its much easier to move the carrier bearing by 4mm on your set up like i did.

Your clutch will work fine but you will need to get your turbo flywheel doctored so it will fit the v6,PM peebs about this as he can sort you out...

other than that its easy to wire up and the exhaust works with a little fabbing,no need to make complete manifolds.A guy in the states who works with the 3vz-fe a lot reckons theres no benefit to having new manifolds,he reckons just chop out the restriction in the Y pipe.

Shugs,lodges engine has had a severe cooking in its former life,everything is melted on the engine or way out of tolerance and i just cant get it to run like it should,it would take more time to sort this engine out than simply replace,so we are biting the bullet and sticking a fresh motor in there.....i guess we should all be aware that if buying a camry with a HG problem its vital it hasnt cooked,lodge reckons the heads were banana shaped,not good....but it will have a happy ending!

good luck with the camry hunting fizzy!

Fizzy
14-06-2006, 11:49
right ian here we go!

firstly its a 3vz-fe not 3vx,that'll speed up the search for the right engine lol sorry got my mr pedantic head on today.

:doh: Thanks for that. That would also explain why my google searches for supercharged 3VX engines didn't result in much. :D Speaking of which - only seem to find articles on putting an SC on the later (1MZ?) engine. Not much on the older one?


you can use all of your turbo equipment,box/shafts the lot but the supported shaft from the v6 engine needs using but you insert the turbo supported shaft into it.

Hmm... thought there was only 1 supported shaft/bracket on the drive train on the drivers side? So do you mean the camry shaft support needs using but you put the turbo supported shaft through that? Guess I need to start looking for pics... ;)


Now in doing this the bearing that sits in this carrier will be 4mm too far to the right,so the circlip that holds it in place wont locate.What i did on my mk2 v6 was fit a 4mm spacer behind the bearing and then machine a new slot for the circlip 4mm nearer the diff,its not a big job.The alternative to that is using the v6 supported output shaft ,it will fit without needing to move the bearing but its 30mm shorter than a turbo supported shaft.So to make up the shortfall you would need to get one front GT4 shaft (its 15mm longer than a turbo shaft so should make up enough of the difference) and then take the outer CV joint off it and slide the turbo outer CV onto that shaft,that should work,but to be honest its much easier to move the carrier bearing by 4mm on your set up like i did.

Aha! So you did mean use the turbo shaft with v6 support bracket.. :D

Hmm... wouldn't another possibility be to enlarge the bolt holes on the shaft suspension bracket so it can be moved 4mm to the right? No need to machine the shaft then - although I guess you would need to make sure its on straight etc...?


Your clutch will work fine but you will need to get your turbo flywheel doctored so it will fit the v6,PM peebs about this as he can sort you out...

Thanks for that. May look into getting a lightened flywheel anyway, new thrust bearing while its off etc. Do fidenza do one thats suitable?


other than that its easy to wire up and the exhaust works with a little fabbing,no need to make complete manifolds.A guy in the states who works with the 3vz-fe a lot reckons theres no benefit to having new manifolds,he reckons just chop out the restriction in the Y pipe.

Thats the bit that I'll probably have problems with. Don't know of any exhaust specialists around who could fab an adapter up to my mongoose. (speaking of which - is a turbo mongoose exhaust ok/overkill? ;) )

I'm sure I also read that the standard manifolds won't fit as they are obstructed by the firewalls on the mk2? (In fact I think it was a brief comment on your mk1 rightup in the pdf I downloaded.. :P ). Also where would you put a cat if needed?


Shugs,lodges engine has had a severe cooking in its former life,everything is melted on the engine or way out of tolerance and i just cant get it to run like it should,it would take more time to sort this engine out than simply replace,so we are biting the bullet and sticking a fresh motor in there.....i guess we should all be aware that if buying a camry with a HG problem its vital it hasnt cooked,lodge reckons the heads were banana shaped,not good....but it will have a happy ending!

I guess thats one of the benefits of getting a complete car as a donor. You can drive it around and make sure everything seems ok first, usual checks for a car etc. :D


good luck with the camry hunting fizzy!

Thanks. A few up on autotrader this week - although the majority are "over 100 miles" (as the crow flies) so will prove interesting finding one. :D

superchargedsam
14-06-2006, 12:04
yes you can get a suitable fidanza wheel for this engine fella AFAIK it was JB who got one for his !

superchargedsam
14-06-2006, 12:04
And the mongoose will be perfect for it !

Jiff Lemon
14-06-2006, 12:30
yes you can get a suitable fidanza wheel for this engine fella AFAIK it was JB who got one for his !

and me! :D

Recommend these boys:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FIDANZA-ALUMINUM-FLYWHEEL-TOYOTA-CAMRY-SOLARA-130881_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33732QQihZ019QQi temZ8067122188QQtcZphoto

As they know how to ship ;) Took about 3 weeks to land but worth the wait

superchargedsam
14-06-2006, 12:40
oh jiff soz mate didnt realise you had one as well ! very nice indeedy ! might have to blag me one of them as well then !

Fizzy
14-06-2006, 12:41
and me! :D

Recommend these boys:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FIDANZA-ALUMINUM-FLYWHEEL-TOYOTA-CAMRY-SOLARA-130881_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33732QQihZ019QQi temZ8067122188QQtcZphoto

As they know how to ship ;) Took about 3 weeks to land but worth the wait

Wow! Thats great! Thanks guys. That states its for a 3.3l ? Is that ok? I take its a direct fit with no machining required for the conversion? Need to look for suitable bolts too I guess - unless I can reuse the ones on the car at the moment (or are they single use jobbies?).

Things are coming together nicely. Just need a nice donor car, suitable exhaust fabricater and some patience to do the wiring.

(Also probably a pit/garage facilites, mechanic etc too.....but will be quicker/cheaper if I already have the bits to hand. :D)

Fizzy
14-06-2006, 20:22
Bolt part numbers to use are 90105-10207 but will need a small amount off their length to clear the rear main bearing.
other than that, no worries. :)

Cheers for that. I've just ordered that flywheel, and an engine mount. How many bolts will I need for the flywheel? Probably pop down to the local toyota dealer in the next few days.

Believe I need an induction kit/air filter as well? I guess this is very engine/year specific - any pointers?

I currently have an apexi kit on - any adapters to allow you to use it on the camry engines around? ;)

:nerd:

By the way - whats the crossover date for camrys going to the 1MZ engine? Some places seem to thinks is '93, others seem to indicate '97?

Peebs
14-06-2006, 21:01
That noise is fantastic. Is that a standard engine it SC'd? trd exhaust?

I'm getting all excited now. :D I think I need to check out a converted car first. Anybody within a reasonable days travelling distance from (very) south wales? :D


Hiya Fizzy, in that vid the engine is in non supercharged form, but has been tweaked a little. The backbox is standard MR2 N/A and the centre section was remade by meself and Tony (fourveesix) so it would fit and the centre restriction could be removed. The car does now have a TRD exhaust on it sounds sounds much better see here...

www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/V6/TRD2.wav

Thats abouyt 4-4.5k revs...the clunk at the end is me shutting the door, not it going bang BTW :)

GaryA
14-06-2006, 21:49
Me like that sound ! :thumbsup:

Paul Woods
15-06-2006, 06:40
fizzy if you get this one...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8071106425&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:UK:11 it comes with the adapter for the AFM ... ?20 shipped from the states,quality item too.

superchargedsam
15-06-2006, 08:38
nice find mr xplosion !

Jiff Lemon
15-06-2006, 09:03
Yup they are - Mine just arived, from the states, in under a week!
Very impressed - I've had people in the Uk take longer to ship!

superchargedsam
15-06-2006, 09:05
know what you mean jiff, my XS downpipe took 3 working days to ship from the states, also got a few bits for my PSP from hong kong and that was 3 days as well ! ordered a universal filter from uk seller and took 10 ferkin days and loads of hassle of city link who should be renamed shitty link as they are shit shit shit !

Fizzy
15-06-2006, 14:55
fizzy if you get this one...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8071106425&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:UK:11 it comes with the adapter for the AFM ... ?20 shipped from the states,quality item too.

Cheers! That particular one had sold - but he had other auctions of the same. :D One duly ordered. :D

Fizzy
16-06-2006, 00:47
Hmm... found the bedell racing website with a V6 conversion faq.....

http://bedellracing.home.comcast.net/V6FAQ.html

It states a couple of things that interest me...

Firstly, it goes on about an adaptor circuit to convert the rev counter signal so it works with the stock rev counter. (4 pulses for m2, 6 for v6?) Guess the rev counter does need to be messed with then to work correctly?

Mentions a difference in cooling pipe width in the engine bay between an na and a turbo. I take it that is due to the na in the states being a 2.2ltr engine?

It also mentions that the water gets pumped around the cooling system in the opposite direction to normal when using the V6, and they had to make a adapter to fit the temp sensor in the rad (for the fans) on the other side of the rad? Also mentions that the n/a rad is smaller than the turbo one - I assume again thats due to it being a US na?

Just doing my usual reading up, and haven't seen any mention of this on write ups on the conversions in the UK?

(Also, as mine was originally a rev 3 uk na, just keeping an eye out for any complications that may arise due to this. :P )

Thanks again!

Paul Woods
16-06-2006, 06:38
brads v6 faq is very useful but doesnt always apply to UK spec cars.

the tacho will work on the six pulse signal,the only side effect is a slightly higher reading,engine idling at 800 shows 1000 on dash,redline of 6500rpm shows 7500rpm.If it annoys you theres 3 solutions.....

1. fit a signal adapter of sorts,ive got one on my speedo signal for my digital dash and it cost ?20
2. fit the camry tacho head into the mk2 clocks,basically take both sets of clocks apart and transfer the camry tach into the mk2.
3. print out a new tacho face with the points in the right position,low tech solution....1 and 2 much better

To be honest it doesnt bother me,the reading isnt exactly miles out but when i get bored i'll be swapping the camry tach.

never heard of the cooling pipe diameter difference before? either way its not an issue.

theres no issues with the coolant flow either,nothing needs to be done to the rad fan switch either,mine sits at the same temp and never moves.

The only thing that is correct there is the tacho slightly out,but its minimal,depends how much it bothers you really!

Paul Woods
16-06-2006, 17:35
tony did you get that sender mate? let me know if the fcuking postmans robbed it and i'll send another down mate.

Paul Woods
16-06-2006, 18:28
ive just thought,is this sender for the v6? they are different to turbo and mk1 ones! i know this cos my v6 one is fubarred.

Fizzy
16-06-2006, 23:37
ive just thought,is this sender for the v6? they are different to turbo and mk1 ones! i know this cos my v6 one is fubarred.

Hmm.. getting curious now when I read things like this. Which temp sender is this and why does it need an adapter?

Seems lot of little things need sorting for the V6 transplant to be a "complete" install/intergration?

Paul Woods
17-06-2006, 07:41
no fizzy,no adapter needed,ignore tony hes on a completely different wavelength to the rest of us,fits rav 4 gearboxes onto engines that shouldnt be in 4wd cars FFS! :)

the camry temp gauge works perfectly in a mk2,no need to change it or any of the other sensors,this boyo is pretty much plug n play except wiring and exhaust so breathe ...........and reeelllaaaxxx :)

Paul Woods
17-06-2006, 11:41
ah seems mr woods is wrong this time around! the reason my v6 temp gauge doesnt work is because the sender DOES require modification...the camry sender works fine with a mk1 dash but not with a mk2 or gt4 it seems....so we need to adapt the mk1 or mk2T temp sender into the v6 head.

Tony is working on the problem and i'll put a bit of thought into it too although i'll probably come up with a "weld A to B" solution :)

Fizzy
17-06-2006, 22:40
no fizzy,no adapter needed,ignore tony hes on a completely different wavelength to the rest of us,fits rav 4 gearboxes onto engines that shouldnt be in 4wd cars FFS! :)

the camry temp gauge works perfectly in a mk2,no need to change it or any of the other sensors,this boyo is pretty much plug n play except wiring and exhaust so breathe ...........and reeelllaaaxxx :)

Guess it was just the alcohol fuelling my sense of paranoia... :alc: :D :thumbsup:

Engine mount arrived yesterday (and I must agree its a very nicely put together bracket :D ), so thats 1 of the items I'll need... ;)

...main missing component at the moment is the v6 engine... :hmm: :coffee: :whistle:

Peebs
17-06-2006, 22:53
Ah good, glad you liked the bracket matey and that it got to you in good time..if at all, (bloody posties) hehe.

AS Paul recently found out the V6 sender won't work with the mk2 clocks, but fear not Fizz, it is a very minor thing and there are several easy peasy solutions to the prob.

Fizzy
17-06-2006, 23:00
Ah good, glad you liked the bracket matey and that it got to you in good time..if at all, (bloody posties) hehe.

AS Paul recently found out the V6 sender won't work with the mk2 clocks, but fear not Fizz, it is a very minor thing and there are several easy peasy solutions to the prob.

Hmm... ok, I assume speedo is fine as its reading off the sensor on the E153 gearbox anyhow...? So its just the rev counter? Or does the feed from the gearbox go into the ecu, and its the signal from the ecu that needs adjusting for speedo and rev counter?

Bare in mind that as my 2 is originally a uk na, its got the uk na console/dash... if that makes any difference.. ;)

Also just spotted this on ebay. Hopefully I won't get somebody jumping in an beating me to it if I post it on here... :jump:

Ebay Item number: 4652446455 (can't get the link to work.. ? :( ).

Look like a likely candidate?

lodgeman
17-06-2006, 23:18
that car has been coming down in price for a while! started at ?650 - high milege though


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOYOTA-CAMRY-V6-VERY-NICE-EXAMPLE_W0QQitemZ4652446455QQcategoryZ18290QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem

Marksman
17-06-2006, 23:19
Ebay Item number: 4652446455 (can't get the link to work.. ? :( ).Look like a likely candidate?

Sounds perfect. You'll sell the wheels for ?100+, same again for the exhaust, get a few pennies back from the tax and you're looking at a V6 engine for less than ?200! A few other parts sold should see you in profit.

Same year as the ones I sold on to Peebs and Rav4-man too.

Hope that helps,

Owen

Fizzy
17-06-2006, 23:37
Sounds perfect. You'll sell the wheels for ?100+, same again for the exhaust, get a few pennies back from the tax and you're looking at a V6 engine for less than ?200! A few other parts sold should see you in profit.

Same year as the ones I sold on to Peebs and Rav4-man too.

Hope that helps,

Owen

Hmm... ok, so sounds promising - even if it is up the "wrong end" of wales for me. 5 Hours away apparantly.

Anyhow - 'cos of the mileage, just wondering what to watch out for, what can/should be checked and changed while the engine is out, and how much is it likely to be to get the engine overhauled (or does that defeat the object of a "cheap" v6 transplant? ;)

Fizzy
18-06-2006, 00:45
Hmm... ok, so sounds promising - even if it is up the "wrong end" of wales for me. 5 Hours away apparantly.

Anyhow - 'cos of the mileage, just wondering what to watch out for, what can/should be checked and changed while the engine is out, and how much is it likely to be to get the engine overhauled (or does that defeat the object of a "cheap" v6 transplant? ;)

Hmm.... even more interesting - this could really work out! I'm actually visiting a friend in Oswestry for a long weekend end of june/beginning of july. Wrexham is a little further north....

....checked trains and I can get there in 3.5 hours, with a ticket being 15-38 pounds depending on which one I can get.

So could catch the train up, pick up the car, pop down to my friends, stay there for a few days as planned, then drive the car back home early july. :D

I can forsee a couple of issues though. mot runs out end of the month :( I'm assuming that its genuine, car is roadworthy etc.....which is always a bit of a gamble on ebay.
Never driven an auto.
Will need to sort out insurance, but I don't think they'll be an issue getting a weeks cover note. :D

It would be a bit of an adventure if nothing else. :mrgreen:

Is the 197k really an issue on this engine?

Anybody up wrexham way that could check it out for me first? :pray: :hehe:

Peebs
18-06-2006, 00:54
Hmm... ok, I assume speedo is fine as its reading off the sensor on the E153 gearbox anyhow...? So its just the rev counter? Or does the feed from the gearbox go into the ecu, and its the signal from the ecu that needs adjusting for speedo and rev counter?


Fizzy, your existing gearbox, speedo and drive chain - including wheel sizes - will be fine as long as it it kept the way it is now. I.E. It will read correctly if the setup is fammiliar to that car.

If you have a mechanical speedo now and go for a gearbox with electronic pickup or vise versa, you will create more problems for yourself than are worth the bother similarly so if you get bigger or smaller wheels (u need diff size tires for speedo to work right - hence the dreaded rubber bands were born).

Possibly unless you REALLY want that LSD ???

If you do, you will need the electronic pickup + cables (or be prepared to replace them) and the speedo mechanism/clock face from the donor car too.

Your choice matey, as always.

Fizzy
18-06-2006, 01:02
Fizzy, your existing gearbox, speedo and drive chain - including wheel sizes - will be fine as long as it it kept the way it is now.

If you have a mechanical speedo now and go for a gearbox with electronic pickup or vise versa, you will create more problems for yourself than are worth the bother simmialarly so if you get bigger or smaller wheels (u need diff size tires for speedo to work right - hence the dreaded rubber bands were born).

Possibly unless you REALLY want that LSD ???

Your choice matey, as always.

Ok, thanks for clearing that up. As my 2 is a rev 3, and I have a rev 3 turbo engine and gearbox (including lsd) in it at the moment it should all be fine and make for a nice car at the end of it all..... I hope. :D

I realise the whole wheel and tyre size things effects speedo's generally, regardless of what the engine is. :P

Just trying to determine what problems I may have using a 197k engine?

Paul Woods
18-06-2006, 08:40
fizzy no problems using an engine of that mileage,jiff has a 200k'er and the bores were perfect...these things go for 300k plus without issue.However its advised that you pull the heads off and change the head gaskets on it,?55 from a US supplier sorts that out,piece of mind etc....lodge you got the link for them,cant seem to find it mate!

Now you will see a 10% discrepancy in your tacho,it feeds off the coilpack which is now giving a 6 pulse per cycle signal rather than a 4...at a proven 800rpm idle on my v6 the tach reads 1000rpm and at 6500rpm its reading 7500rpm or thereabouts,not a big issue but if it bugs you you can transplant the camry tach head into your mk2 clocks,ive got this to do on mine....does it bug you peebs? not an issue for me but im going to do it anyway.

One thing you will need to sort fizzy...you are using turbo box and shafts yes? the supported shaft needs inserting into the camry carrier bracket (which itself needs the engine mount hacking off it),now when you insert the turbo supported shaft into a v6 carrier the bearing doesnt quite sit in the right place.It needs to go 4mm nearer the diff so that the large circlip can clip back in place.The solution is to have a 4mm spacer ring made up,this slides onto the shaft first,then the bearing and then a new groove needs machining into the shaft for the small circlip to sit into.Thats it really,this will move the bearing on the shaft 4mm nearer the diff and allow it to all bolt up.You do not need to do this if you use the v6 auto supported shaft but it will leave your drivers side driveshaft short i think,im over complicating things,just move your bearing 4mm towards the diff and all will be fine :thumbsup:

Paul Woods
18-06-2006, 09:37
that sounds a much easier way to do it tony,i havent had a look at mine yet but i'll definately be doing it that way for sure! got any pics of that little board or is it all self explanatory when you take them apart?

Fizzy
18-06-2006, 10:55
Thanks for all the help guys - most appreciated!

Done a little searching, and found this :-

http://rep.racepages.com/parts/racepages/quote2.jsp?product=A801041360

..which looks reasonable. They also do the headgaskets seperately, but thought getting a complete set would be best to be on the safe side in case I need any extra bits. :D

It mentions "This gasket set requires 16 of part # 90210-07001 valve cover seal washer", which I assume can be obtained from toyota in the uk if needed?

Also wondering whether I should get some new headbolts as well - or is that going a little bit overboard? ;)

Paul Woods
18-06-2006, 11:21
no need for new head bolts fizzy,the old ones are reusable.

The gasket kit that alan bought is a complete one,he will be along in a minute with the link no doubt....i cant find it!

Paul Woods
18-06-2006, 12:00
thats superb tony :thumbsup: this needs a thread of its own in the mk2 section for future tech reference,good work that man!

Paul Woods
18-06-2006, 12:01
by the way does your lass know you're using her best china to display circuit boards on? lol

Fizzy
18-06-2006, 23:37
no need for new head bolts fizzy,the old ones are reusable.

The gasket kit that alan bought is a complete one,he will be along in a minute with the link no doubt....i cant find it!

Thanks. Just taken the plunge and bought the car. :D

I can worry about practicalities later (like where to store the car, who can get the engine(s) out for me etc etc etc....) ;)

So could probably do with that gasket set soon. :D

Fizzy
18-06-2006, 23:40
thats superb tony :thumbsup: this needs a thread of its own in the mk2 section for future tech reference,good work that man!

Definately! Thats put my mind at rest on that rev counter thing if its that easy. As I'll have the complete car to hand, I'll be able to dismantle the dash. :D

Tech section (even a "how to?" guide? ;) ) would be very handy - so I know where to look after I've lost the bit of paper I inadvertantly tend to scribble notes on... :P

Peebs
19-06-2006, 00:24
Thanks. Just taken the plunge and bought the car. :D

I can worry about practicalities later (like where to store the car, who can get the engine(s) out for me etc etc etc....) ;)

So could probably do with that gasket set soon. :D

Fizz, if you get the your gear up to me and Tony (FourVee Six) in the midlands, we will carry out any of the work you require for your swap. Engines out, in, electrics, brackets, filter, whatever...

Fizzy
19-06-2006, 00:41
Fizz, if you get the your gear up to me and Tony (FourVee Six) in the midlands, we will carry out any of the work you require for your swap. Engines out, in, electrics, brackets, filter, whatever...

Thats sounds a very nice offer!!! Perhaps we best discuss this via email - usual questions like when, where, how (to get 2 cars to you, and get home, with only 1 driver and mot running out on the camry end of the month :( ), how much etc... :)

Still waiting for my induction kit and flywheel to arrive......and need to sort out getting hold of new head gaskets at the very least.

I have already got the required engine bracket though. :D

Fizzy
20-06-2006, 12:53
Fizz, if you get the your gear up to me and Tony (FourVee Six) in the midlands, we will carry out any of the work you require for your swap. Engines out, in, electrics, brackets, filter, whatever...

Whereabouts are you in "the midlands" anyhow? pm me if you don't wanna make it public. :P

Fizzy
23-06-2006, 14:43
Annoyingly, a low mileage (a mere 102000 ;) ) car has popped on ebay with full service history, and currently only ?185 or so!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=016&item=260000347869

2 days to go on it too. It is in Brighton though so a fair distance from me anyhow. (thats my excuse anyhow ;) )

lodgeman
23-06-2006, 16:15
Annoyingly, a low mileage (a mere 102000 ;) ) car has popped on ebay with full service history, and currently only ?185 or so!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=016&item=260000347869

2 days to go on it too. It is in Brighton though so a fair distance from me anyhow. (thats my excuse anyhow ;) )


paul is bidding on that one! think he has a use for it:whistle:

Paul Woods
24-06-2006, 07:41
not fussed though if someone nearer really wants it as i have transport fees to pay on top of that which is a killer,so if someone else wants to buy let me know and i'll stand aside.

Garbe
24-06-2006, 11:29
HI guys
this is just the thread i was looking for,
Been reading through the threads for the last 2 days, think i'm nearly blind,
I've been dreaming V6 conversion aswell.
I ve got the same issues as fizzy, ie engine/wiring/ engineering/welding jobs that would be very difficult for me to do/ ok impossible.

What sort of money do you think that car on ebay will go for, been watching a few for the last few days,
but really need to get the other bits sorced first.
And research done.!!!!

Jiff Lemon
24-06-2006, 13:49
Camry's can be had for under ?300 - Depending on how patient you are.
Get your username in the ebay list and stake your claim on any that pop up, as you don't want one of us bidding on it!

Garbe
24-06-2006, 14:11
Hi jiff thanks for the info

will do but i can't find the list :icon_conf

Paff
24-06-2006, 14:21
http://twobrutal.co.uk/showthread.php?t=185

here ya go mate

lodgeman
24-06-2006, 15:14
garbe they are around ..... you just have to know where to look for them. picked up a 102k version with 11months mot ,service history for ?250. had to go a long way to pick up but worth it in the end!drove back faultlessly
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/lodgeman/newcamry1.jpg

money can be earned on these as well! try www.autotrader.co.uk

Garbe
24-06-2006, 15:24
I'll have to keep em peeled,
I'm hoping to recoup money on it, that's how i'll be able to fund the project.
Looked at autotrader but they seem ????

lodgeman
24-06-2006, 16:04
that came from the autotrader! wanted ?295 i offered ?250 and he ripped my hand off! mind you not the best way to buy a car - sight unseen ,on the salesman sayso :naughty:

Garbe
24-06-2006, 16:09
Looks like a cracking car, shame your gonna break it NOT!!