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mr2aw11turbo

01-05-2006, 10:28

Well here goes nothing:-
I must admit that i have been slowly getting on with this project on my own doing a few odd jobs here and there mainly on the body work, but always looking out for a turbo engine, and to my joy i found on a few week's ago advertised on the internet on a friday ad mag style site. I found it by lukc more than anything else as all i did was type MR2 Turbo spares or repaires into google and after searching through loads of pages of old out of date adverts i found my donor car for sale.
Adertised as "having near side dammage but still starting and running"

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/05/1.jpg

so i phoned the number and 10 munits later i had bagged myself a running MK2 Turbo for the very very small sum of,
Wait for it,
?250 round english pound :eek2:
Bargin.

The engine is now out of both the MK1 and the MK2 with just a few parts needing sorting out on the turbo engine and i'm good to go.
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/05/2.jpg

The MK1 itself is in need of work but for ?255 pound i am not going to complian.
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/04/130.jpg

Marksman

01-05-2006, 10:33

Eeek (to damage and price, many bagains had). Long may the good luck continue.

All the best,

Owen.

adamh

01-05-2006, 10:39

well, you got all the bits you need if you have the rear of the car, looks like just 'minor' damage to the side there.. somebody didnt like mk2's! , great prices on both to be honest. although it will still cost some on top of that naturally, you've got the cheapest combination ive seen for a while! so it shouldnt be much altogether

more shots then fella?.. front of engine and such :mrgreen:

mr2aw11turbo

01-05-2006, 10:59

well, you got all the bits you need if you have the rear of the car, looks like just 'minor' damage to the side there.. somebody didnt like mk2's!

Well the story i was told by the seller was " he asked his 'freind' if he could take it for a drive to see what i goes like" Now im not one for crying wolf but.............. From looking at the car it looks like he lost it on a corner and went into something very lamp post shaped backwards.http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/04/132.jpg

More pictures then,

Engine out of the MK1 with the old mounts removed
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/05/3.jpg

New CV's fitted to the turbo driveshafts,
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/05/4.jpg

Alternator fitted already. brought from scrap with the mount for ?15
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/05/5.jpg

Jiff Lemon

01-05-2006, 11:08

blimey, at this rate we're going to have a very full and good looking stand at JAE!

Coming along quite nicely - Much to do on the mk1?

mr2aw11turbo

01-05-2006, 11:16

Nothing you aint seen befor i will start a thread in the body work seciton soon. i have already decided on a colour scheme. Yellow bottom half and black on top. ( no bummble bee jokes please )

I also have a few goddies stored away for use a CT26a turbo brought for ?60 from a freinds boss who is building a twin turbo supra MK3 and a blitz de-cat from of the ebay brought for ?68 pound
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/05/6.jpg

And a slection of intercoolers. one MK2, a celica GT4 and a pair of nissan 300zx intercoolers

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/05/7.jpg

Marksman

01-05-2006, 12:15

adamh

01-05-2006, 21:55

you have been a busy bee.. it will be intersting to see how you get on fittingthe supry turbo, i wont be approaching fitting for a good while yet

Goldy

01-05-2006, 22:01

Flippin eck that seems to have come together pretty quick. ?250 is a fappin bargain for the mk2!!! Sounds like its going to be sweet... Look forward to resulty :afro:

Paul Woods

02-05-2006, 07:03

?250 is what i paid for mine,that was back when nobody knew about these swaps though,i didnt think it could be repeated! well done that man....just shows its still possible.

mr2aw11turbo

02-05-2006, 17:45

?250 is what i paid for mine,that was back when nobody knew about these swaps though,i didnt think it could be repeated! well done that man....just shows its still possible.

Like i said paul i'm not fully reliant on his story as there was history with the car. He had it advertised for ?400 and he said if i could take it away by the next weekend then i could have it for ?250. i didnt have to barter with him at all.

I'm not sure on using the other turbo or not on this engine. I was going to ask for advice on the pros and cons of using it

adamh

02-05-2006, 22:35

while its on the bench check it out matey, no reason why you cannot run a supra turbo on sensible boost on an old engine.. might be worth having a root around the engine, possibly putting some new kit on.. gasket/belts/pulley & jockey/bigs???.. you'll be safe that way...depends how much you trust the seller!. at a bare minimum i wouldnt look at the engine without at least a new cam belt and pulleys.

Sponge Bob

02-05-2006, 22:50

Adam - which pulley(s) is it that everyone seems to say must be replaced? I've read it so many times but they just get referred to as "the pulleys" now - so not quite sure!!

Paul Woods

03-05-2006, 06:58

which pulleys are these then ash?

Sponge Bob

03-05-2006, 09:05

Hey... that's my question!!!

I don't know which pulleys they are - I can see a few on the engine diagram marked as no.2 & no.2 idler pulley, oil pump pulley and a crankshaft timing pulley - but which ones should you change as a matter of fact with the engine out / timing belt off...?

Paul Woods

03-05-2006, 18:12

none of them unless theres play in them or they sound like a fecked skateboard wheel :)

adamh

03-05-2006, 22:54

you ride skateboards regular then paul?..

bob.. if im doing a cam belt, i do the belt pulleys if needed, (usually one or two idler's.. and a jockey pulley).. the idler's are basically statically placed pulleys (belt bearings), i'e; they dont move on the block face.. and the jockey pulley is the spring/hydraulically loaded one (bearing)that tensions the belt up (moves). as paul says, if they are allright they are allright!.
one of mine sounded like pauls mk2n/a engine and felt lumpy when turning it.. so i changed it.. 'and' also changed the jockey pulley to be sure.

ive always played like that tho bob.. i like to replace parts before hand.. so i know when push comes to shove with hammering the engine now and again, i've nowt to worry about in that particular area of it. its not a necessity.

the camshaft pulleys never get changed matey !.. they have no bearings at the front of the head.. only rubber seals , which should last donkeys years.

sorry si post unavoidably off direction a little!.

Sponge Bob

03-05-2006, 23:07

Yeah - but I like your way of thinking Adam!! I'll check how pricey the bits are before making that call mind lol

Paul Woods

04-05-2006, 06:26

i had to replace the idler on my 3s-gte...now that did sound like a skateboard wheel,just couldnt take a chance on it.....?45 from toyota!!

adamh

04-05-2006, 08:32

mr2aw11turbo

04-05-2006, 17:33

not much done since the weekend. i'll get some more pictures up then.
Anyone got some nice clear pics of what i need to cut out of the rear firewall?

Might have a go at that on saturday

Paul Woods

04-05-2006, 18:27

theres a few pics on all of the swaps ive done,but to give you a clearer idea cut from the very middle of your engine lid catch all the way to the seam where the panel meets the drivers rear suspension turret....chop all of that out then replace with angle iron supports and weld steel back in around whatever intercooler design you have.

Sponge Bob

04-05-2006, 21:35

blimey, i used cram-skill.. they were 19 or so for jockey, i think 11 or 14 for idler.. god knows was a long time back!. 45 quid tho.. no shock there!. dare i ask how much a mrT cam belt kit inclusive of skateboard wheels is.. i reckon its over a hundred quid?

sorry again simon!..

how is the swap coming along?

Where mate? I tapped that into google and nothing came up!!

random also... Jesus H!!! The relief valve in the oild cooler... I nearly broke 2 of my 2 arms trying to get the undone!!!

Rowdan

04-05-2006, 21:43

Where mate? I tapped that into google and nothing came up!
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m5b0s606p0

Sponge Bob

04-05-2006, 21:49

Nice!! Cheers R - looks like a pretty good site actually... prices look good!

mr2aw11turbo

07-05-2006, 13:24

not done much today been messing around with other cars. got my mounts from a mate of mine who has access to CNC equipment. cut out of 5mm steel they look the mutts nuts. also gave the de-cat a coat of paint.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/05/85.jpg

adamh

07-05-2006, 13:42

looking good simon, i guess you have the front mount plates aswell? the rear is a build it as you go type mount..

mr2aw11turbo

07-05-2006, 13:57

i guess you have the front mount plates aswell? the rear is a build it as you go type mount..

Thnaks adahm. I will be cutting them myself at the same time as i am cuting out the rear mount plates.

just been doing a few odd jobs on the body work today so not much engine related stuff to report

mr2aw11turbo

13-05-2006, 16:26

jobs done today befor the rain came down.

Fuel pump replaced with turbo pump. I only broke two bolts that hold the plastic bit's on, i was well impressed. standard "paint it all black" routine to the tank and anything esle i could reach at the time.

also had a strip down of my new ST205's calipers and poly bush kit that arrived this week.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/05/108.jpg

superchargedsam

13-05-2006, 17:57

gotta love them calipers fella ! ;)

adamh

14-05-2006, 00:18

wheres the calipers? thems is bench vices ..

superchargedsam

14-05-2006, 00:32

Adam sell your nicely refurbed 185s and get some of these matey as I dont rekon you would be out of pocket !

adamh

14-05-2006, 00:44

your right there, buts... i'm re-assured with quality of me fronts, all new so to speak. i cannay afford to spend any more on the front wheels!

superchargedsam

14-05-2006, 00:57

adam a bit of careful advertising and some well sourced 205 calipers dont rekon you would ned to spend out any more !

mr2aw11turbo

04-06-2006, 17:57

Well this weekend has been a bit slow because of a couple of other jobs on other cars ( and its been raining today at times!!!!!!!!:rant: ) i was able to fit the oil pressure stitch from the 4age onto the 3sgte, alter the engine hanager to fit, and make a start on cutting up the front and rear torque mounts ready for a later date,

and when i went for my camera to take a few snapshots. what do you know the batteries are flat, ho hum these things will happen. :banghead:

adamh

04-06-2006, 19:37

never mind, i usually leave the batteries in the charger!. if its any comfort i was doing mot work on the daily driver this weekend, although much rather be stuck in on the 2.

whats the engine hanger?!.. not sure i have altered mine.. are you talking about where the oil pressure sender gets mounted on the turbo head? im just going to knock up an extension piece and mount it on the end of that.

mr2aw11turbo

05-06-2006, 18:40

whats the engine hanger?!.. not sure i have altered mine.. are you talking about where the oil pressure sender gets mounted on the turbo head? im just going to knock up an extension piece and mount it on the end of that.

Thats the one. Read in another thread about taking a small amount of the engine hook off to give space for the pressure sender. So while i was on a mission with the angle grinder in my hand..........:whistle:

adamh

05-06-2006, 21:41

fair call, grinders do have that effect.. a little but here and there..ooo..a little bit more.. :mrgreen:

mr2aw11turbo

01-07-2006, 12:31

right time to do somthing engine related as it has been a while, this morning involved seperating the engine and gearbox and getting the block onto my engine stand, took a bit longer than i thought as i had to find 4 bolts long enough to reach the engine through the arms on my stand:doh: but its done now:boogie:

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/07/1.jpg

Time to strip:icon_eek:

mr2aw11turbo

20-08-2006, 20:40

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhhh
:boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie:

how happy am i today,

because with a little bit of help from a friend of mine, with a bit of this:-
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/08/100.jpg

and some funny positions like this:-
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/08/101.jpg

we ended up with some of these:-
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/08/102.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/08/103.jpg

Tha jig works a treat, many thanks to Paul and Owen for making and re-making this little jem if equipment, i dont think i could of done it without it.

I will put some body sealent round them in the week along with a few coats of hammer rightto tidy it all up, now i just have to get a clutch and the engine and gearbox can go back together again

superchargedsam

20-08-2006, 20:50

look good there fella !

lodgeman

20-08-2006, 21:56

nice job mate!:boogie:

Goldy

20-08-2006, 21:59

Awesome mate... its really comin along:clap: :clap:

adamh

20-08-2006, 22:16

excellent progress, god that jig looks at home in the bay :)

Marksman

20-08-2006, 22:18

Ats de way t do it.

Splendid work, nice to see it all coming together :-)

Owen.

mr2aw11turbo

07-10-2006, 12:36

Great progress this morning first off, the fylwheel was put back on after a skim to take off the lovley surface rust off that was attached to it:-

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/10/25.jpg

Then the new clutch was put on to the fylwheel:-

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/10/26.jpg

then in a mad rush i put the gearbox back on but forgot to take any pictures:doh: and within the last half an hour the bumble bee project's engine bay is now filled:-

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/10/27.jpg

:jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: Woo Hoo:-
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/10/27.jpg

Gary Symons

07-10-2006, 16:22

Woo Hoo indeed! Is a Great feeling seeing the engine sitting in the bay after all your hard work.

Garbe

07-10-2006, 16:27

Speedy Gonzales
Not long now :thumbsup:

mr2aw11turbo

08-10-2006, 08:47

Thanks Guys

Woo Hoo indeed! Is a Great feeling seeing the engine sitting in the bay after all your hard work.

Its a great feeling alright went out for a pie and a pint for lunch to celebrate, :booz:

superchargedsam

08-10-2006, 22:14

excellent work there Si !

adamh

09-10-2006, 22:44

well done that man.. hopefully staying there :thumbsup: . looks like a nice wee gap infront of the turbo there

Sponge Bob

10-10-2006, 09:22

Good man - it's all easy from here on...!!!

mr2aw11turbo

04-11-2006, 13:42

well done that man.. hopefully staying there :thumbsup: . looks like a nice wee gap infront of the turbo there

alas no, its got to come out again at some point befor it hits the road, when i had the mounts put in the upright parts were put in goo and solid by a freind with a good sized welder, the top part that i put in with my welder has come away on the one side on the gearbox side because the metal i was welding is to thick for my smaller welder so i shall get it some where close to being finshed then drop everything back out again re-weld the mounts, then re-paint the bay again as i have put some scratches throught the paint and red is showing through again, its all part of the fun of doing a self build,

Anyway good progress has been made the ecu has been mounted in the boot,http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/11/33.jpg

its been all wired up apart from one power cable that i didnt have the right conector for, http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/11/34.jpg
and it has been conected up to a battery and amazing :eek2: it turns over :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump:

One question on the wiring i have extended these into the boot to give a bit more room in the engine bay, the wiring for one of them is there, but where would i find the other? http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/11/35.jpg