Anyone used these German arches?

[John]

Any ever used these arch panels?
http://www.toyota-heaven.de/1106100.htm
Any good?

Look like they wouldn't take too much work to make fit, don't know what they're off though. If they were identified then it may be possible to find them cheaper here. Something like ?18 a side (doesn't sound excessive) plus postage from Germany (which might be).

[boondougal]

i've got them sat in my garage at the moment, they look like they will be a good match (arch bit only) also pretty substancial panels if you ask me, i think i payed 50 quid inc postage.

I am sure i have seen some pics on the gallary where someone has welded these in..well in the pic it looks like the arch bit is in the same red type colour anyway.. and i'me sure i have read a few threads over on IMOC where a few peolple have used them with good results.

[John]

Thanks - I'll give these a go then. Have you had a try at fitting them at all yet?

[boondougal]

i've offered them up..thats about it tbh, from someone who has never done any form of body work they looked ok to me:whistle: :pray:

I'll try and take some pics tonight to give you an idea though.:wave:

[boondougal]

Ok, been in the garage tomight messin about with headlights so took some photos of the arches for you.:hehe:

http://x402.putfile.com/2/5714511845.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)
http://x402.putfile.com/2/5715043038.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)
http://x402.putfile.com/2/5715055415.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)
http://x402.putfile.com/2/5715074115.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)
http://x402.putfile.com/2/5715095850.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)
http://x402.putfile.com/2/5715143738.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)

got a few more but these might be enough:poke2:

[John]

Thanks. These look like they'll do nicely.

[Ross]

they look ok, did you order them direct? Do they talk English?? lol

[boondougal]

Yeah i ordered them direct - all be it over e-mail. The guys English was ok..but saying that mine isn't always that good!!!:beer: :puke: hehehe, i think some of the other arch options might be cheaper but this certainl looks like it should need a little less fetteling when their on...i guess time will tell!!!

[mart1975]

i fitted a pair of these a few months ago. theyre ok and with a bit of modding fit nicely.

[Ross]

other arch options? are we talking corolla arches cut down? is it un half & rejoin for those?? or is there some others?
What about fronts?
Is the rear lip twin skined? I can't remember & if so what about the inner arch?

Cheers

[lodgeman]

paul uses sunny ones i think?

[Paul Woods]

mk1 corolla 3 door or datsun cherry n12 model 3 door arches are what i use,they have a perfect arch lip on them thats the same as the mk1 lip,if you look closely at the german arch it doesnt have the same outer lip but ive never seen them in person so cant really comment.

The cherry or corolla arches are ?30 a pair,they do need a little slicing and bending around the arch profile but once blended they make a perfect job of it.

[ blue peter mode on ] heres one i made earlier...
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/04/55.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/04/56.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/04/57.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/04/58.jpg

[superchargedsam]

looking good ! Paul when you say some cutting and blending dont suppose you could do a pen and ink type drawing over the above to show where you cut and bend them, when you get a second between conversions of course !

[Ross]

very cool, at ?30 a pair I'd say its the way to go, I'd have thought the german ones would cost that by the time they get here.

[nickwebb]

so how do you actually go about welding new arches in do you lay the arc on top and then weld it on

[lodgeman]

so how do you actually go about welding new arches in do you lay the arc on top and then weld it on


theres a thread somewhere about arch replacement- if i can find i will post!
but basically you cut 1/2 way down the arch and fit the new trimmed one underneath and tack in small amounts all the way around.


quote paul woods
having replaced 100 plus rears i think im slightly over qualified to answer but here goes!

The easiest way is to cut the arch halfway down its slope or if its rotten there as near to the top of the slope as possible....its far easier to blend in new arches on the flare than to blend in a new arch on the flat bit before the arch starts.

So cut it out,and judging by the pics the inner arch will be screwed as well,remove that as far back as you like.Tack the new arch under the old,not on top,again easier to blend.....do not seam weld,just make a series of spot welds that are very close together=no distortion of the panel.Now make sections that join the inner arch back onto the new arch lip,this is the horrible bit,sparks in your ears welding these but again its not structural so spot weld close together.If you can,weld the inner arch onto the inner edge of the arch lip.Use lots of seam sealer on the inner arch.Grind off the welds on the arch,fill with p45,sand,fill,sand,fill (use 80 grade paper to start).....spray primer over it in between fills when its getting close.Then switch to 320 grade and switch to a high build primer,keep layering up the primer and use water with the 320,this will remove the 80 grade scratches.Use more filler in small skim amounts if required but dont go back to 80's.When you are happy with the arch,and you really cant take enough time over these mate,boring and it does your head in getting it right but take as long as it needs,switch to 800 grade paper and wet flat the whole rear quarter,spray with more high build primer (mipa 4+1 is good stuff if using a proper spray gun).

Im betting you will need to rebuild the area behind the sill triangles on that car,To repair the triangle area at the sill i weld an 8 inch piece of angle iron at the bottom,then attach an inner piece onto the inner sill down onto that.To repair the outer sill i use escort mk3/4 3 door sills (?18 a pair!!!) these fit really well and even come with a section at the rear that will fold and repair the area behind your rear triangle.The trick with the sills is that you must keep refitting the bodykit to make sure you have the right length and that its all going to bolt back up properly and fit right around the arch.The escort sill needs a few inches removing at the front wing too.

If you need more details adam get in touch mate.

from the words of the master lol

[Paul Woods]

forgotten id wrote all that! christ im full of shit lol

[adamh]

forgotten i had read it ..christ.. helpful words!

[blueninja66]

i got a pair of cherry N12 rear arches for ?18 the pair and fitted for nowt.....................family in the trade...........dont ya just love it......will try and post before and after pics for ya tomorrow

[superchargedsam]

blue did you ever get the before and after pics fella ?

[blueninja66]

sorting asap mate

[frodo]

just read pauls thread on wheel arch replacement , after i have finished my suspension and brake upgrade i am seriously considering new arches, if i did use cherries is there anyone out there that would do them for me?i am based in mid glam but can travel to have it done properly, any offers.
frodo:primates:

[superchargedsam]

where in mid glam are you frodo as may know someone who can do it for ya !

[frodo]

where in mid glam are you frodo as may know someone who can do it for ya !
hi sam, i am in llanharry, pontyclun, (llantrisant area) my mobile number is 07771 954 388 :primates:

[jasper]

hi sam, i am in llanharry, pontyclun, (llantrisant area)

That's easy for you to say lol