Veilside Andrews wheel refurb project

[Paul Woods]

A little side project for me, i bought these wheels from Tommy a few weeks ago, super rare Veilside Andrews 3 piece split rims, 4 and 5 stud fitment, very classy but looking a bit sorry for themselves.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

Anyway i knew the resto wasn't going to be cheap, but wheels like these need to be saved.

Work started with a full stripdown, which took hours! The split rim bolts were so badly corroded and seized, but eventually all 160 of them came out!

After shotblasting i treated them to a 4+1 highbuild primer coat, this takes out all dimples left over from the shotblasting and leaves the surface as a blank canvas...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/06/65.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/06/66.jpg

Today i started the painting process and gave them a quick basecoat black covering, tomorrow i will lay a black 2k over this to make them pop.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/06/67.jpg

The rim dishes have been sent away to a professional wheel restorer, i could do them myself but it's so time consuming and time is something i just don't have these days, sometimes it is just easier and more cost effective to outsource certain jobs. Imoc member "cardhore" restores wheels for a living, his workmanship is second to none...

An example of his work...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/06/68.jpg

So my four dishes have had curbing dings welded and refaced, then polished to a mirror finish, they are due back anyday now.

I am going for gold bolts, to contrast against the mirror dishes and the black spoke centres....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/06/69.jpg

Final rebuilding will happen next week sometime, i'm looking forward to seeing them completed, as to what i'm going to do with them i have no idea, they now owe me the national debt of Greece, so might keep them as a backup set for the 2gr Mk1.

More to come.

[snowtigger]

Very nice wheels mate if your ever after selling them on to another 2gr mk1 owner let us know nod wink.
And I will have to search for this guy as I have a set of wheels that need some love spending on them, as I want them to look good for jae.

[Spook]

Made a note of that wheel restorer myself

http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=21196

he is at the opposite end of country though!

[Paul Woods]

Very nice wheels mate if your ever after selling them on to another 2gr mk1 owner let us know nod wink.
And I will have to search for this guy as I have a set of wheels that need some love spending on them, as I want them to look good for jae.

Sadly no other 2gr Mk1 exists or i would do mate.

[loadswine]

Amazing stuff again Paul! These bits you find, and what you do with them are simply brilliant mate. Well done!

[cdwood2010]

Wheel porn. Nom nom nom.

I'm actually thinking about getting a set refurbed. I saw some wheels on a 928 done in 'black chrome' a while back and they made my tummy go funny.

:)

[MRV6]

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/06/66.jpg



Hmm looks like porsche boxster yellow, now where have I seen that before????

[Paul Woods]

Today the rims got a 2k glosscoat...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/06/74.jpg

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The fully restored and polished dishes are now back, Cardhore has done an amazing job on them, really blown away by his attention to detail....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/06/77.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/06/78.jpg

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Just waiting on the gold bolts now and they are done...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/06/81.jpg

[Tommytank]

Bugger. I knew they would look good, but i never thought they would look *that* good....

Top work man, you've done 'em proud!!

[snowtigger]

How does that song go ?

"I just jizzed in my pants"

[Paul Woods]

The resto continued with the centres glossed, flattened and polished to a mirror finish...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/06/108.jpg

Then the bolts went in, it's amazing the difference these make..... check out the reflections!

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/06/109.jpg

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With the 4 stud PCD being 4x114.3 they will need 4x100 PCD spacer adapters to work on my MK1.... so i've no idea what to do with them now, i think i might just occassionally wander into the spray booth where they are and pull my pud.

[Paul Woods]

Before and after.... pretty happy with that!

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/06/117.jpg

[snowtigger]

adapterkings in the usa do spacer adapters and can make them hubcentric as well as wheelcentric/stud wtf that is. I have been talking to them about adaptors for a 120x5 stud pattern for some 10j rears, but the wheels im after cost a bloody fortune and at the mo lack of funds is stalling this idea.

those do look mega paul whats the 5 stud pattern and what offset size are the wheels ? like ive said after the house move pm me if your going to sell these mate.

[Paul Woods]

The 5 stud PCD is 114.3, Mk2 fitment, so would just need spacing only on your rear end, the fronts would need a 4x100 spacer/adapter.

I'll have a think about it and see what happens, really tempted to get the adapters and fit these to my Mk1, just means spending more money.

Offset is +41, so they need spacing to fill our arches, quite handy considering the adapters will take that up.

[snowtigger]

that sounds really handy if you change your mind you know were I am lol.

[Goldy]

Those wheels look the nuts!

[geoffmunt]

The 5 stud PCD is 114.3, Mk2 fitment, so would just need spacing only on your rear end, the fronts would need a 4x100 spacer/adapter.

I'll have a think about it and see what happens, really tempted to get the adapters and fit these to my Mk1, just means spending more money.

Offset is +41, so they need spacing to fill our arches, quite handy considering the adapters will take that up.

I would go for it Paul, I think these would really fit with the JDM theme and just look a bit more special than the Borbets. I assume they have a centre cap though - that was the finishing touch on the other rims so would be a shame not to have something similar on these?

In for a penny, in for a pound and all that...

[Tommytank]

Centre caps on the Andrews are actually garishly bling. Custom ones?

[geoffmunt]

Centre caps on the Andrews are actually garishly bling. Custom ones?

Just checked a few out on Google Images...yes they are. Look marginally better in black, but still plenty of room for improvement.

[snowtigger]

I think if Paul fitted the gold bolts to it they would look quite blinghy, personally some alloy flat plate and the three mounting screws would look quite nice.


The fake centre nut looks a bit wrong but this is tb when have we ever said don't do it, be different.

[Spook]

They really are beautifull!

But you would only ever use them for swanning round the garage & shows, couldnt stomach them out in even a light shower.

[dgh938peg]

Beautiful wheels Paul - Top Job! :thumbsup:

Interestingly - the Blue Volk GTP's in your first post are now on TonyleFrog's 330whp Rev4 Azure blue turbo - saw them at the weekend and they're truly lush. :)

[Torero]

I think the gold bolts set them off perfectly. A lovely set of rims there Paul, they're getting me quite moist.

[Paul Woods]

A pic of all four finished.... i think Mr Snowtigger is having these.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/07/35.jpg

[Torero]

You're a lucky man Tiggs these really are classy.

[Paul Woods]

what else do call it when they're gunna be encased in a tight rubber suit ????? ;)

We call that Phil

[Torero]

We call that Phil

Fucking brilliant :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

[snowtigger]

We call that Phil

Most definitely a phillis.

[snowtigger]

Mr snowtigger is most definitely having these, he has even bought some new light weight alloy wheel nuts D1 spec.

These wheel nuts are hyper strong and as lite as a fag packet or so the jap blurb has it.

I can't wait to trial fit them to the car and sort out offsets and spacers.

[Torero]

I've got similar ones on mine Tiggs. They are lightweight racing lug nuts with a bi metal insert on the seat, so that they don't overtighten and damage the alloy. If only they could do the same for the twat driving it, I've kerbed them a couple of times already.

[snowtigger]

Well I'm not fitting these till the day before jae as I want them pristine, I can use my kerbed Rotas till then and swop between them both.

Rotas for winter these for special occasions.

[Paul Woods]

Very wise Tiggs, i was going to do the same, just treat these as the show wheels, i think a winter would kill all of my hard work.

[snowtigger]

I already have a set of rota wheels stacked in the back living room with a set of brand new never been on the car avensis Vermont alloys.

Then the borbet A set I've just bought and there's no room to fit these will post up a pic later of the back room.

Just need space argh.

[Tommytank]

Borbet A's you say? ... 4x100?

[snowtigger]

Yes 7.5 front 16 i think and 9 by 16 rears 4x100 with nut borbet proper alloy caps not the cheapo plastic ones.

I've not fitted the rears as the adapter/spacer has cost me quite a bit to buy, as I'm running 5x114.3 on the back so need converting to 4x100.
All come with good tyres as well, but may have to sell them on here or fleabay to make space sadly.

[Tommytank]

I'm listening....

[snowtigger]

I'm listening....

Well I will post a for sale thread if any ones interested?
I paid £450 so that's what I would want back if there's interest I can post pics up of them and start a for sale thread ?

Just need to dig them out the back room as they were the first things in the new house.

[Tommytank]

Folk are always interested in Borbet A's. I'm balls deep in 3Sgte debt at the moment, unless you want another set of split rims.... ;)

[snowtigger]

These are now at home in the living room looking way to nice to fit to a thrashed mk1 just yet.

While at a home exhibit show last month I had seen coffee tables that were round with a glass see through top inlaid that you can fit an alloy wheel inside these would be perfect for that, only problem is I can't drive 4 coffee tables lol.

[Goldy]

Come on tiggs, stop messing about and put these on the car already at least on one side for a cheeky picture ;-)

[snowtigger]

Ah I wish i could as these will need some nice rubber on them first some 255/35/17 eagle f1 v2 at £164 a corner ish or the mclaren 305/40/17 tires I've spotted on eBay at £240.

Also the front wheels need adapter spacers for converting from 4x100 to 4x114.3 and then spacing correctly plus I need to buy some ohlins suspension or the rm inverted dampers at nearly a thou to sort the ride height and suspension.

Plus finish getting the new garage now the base is in for the end of the month so it looks like it could be jae when I roll on the new rims.

[MRV6]

Come on tiggs, stop messing about and put these on the car already at least on one side for a cheeky picture ;-)

I know you've had them at least a day already, get your bloody finger out! And I don't mean out of Paulas beef curtain.

[snowtigger]

I know you've had them at least a day already, get your bloody finger out! And I don't mean out of Paulas beef curtain.

But it was warm and moist it only went tight as I was trying to get the wheels out of his grubby mits lol.

[MRV6]

Far too much info Tiggs, I hope it was worth it though.

[snowtigger]

Far too much info Tiggs, I hope it was worth it though.

To say I was ecstatic is an understatement the wheels will look the dogs bollocks mate pity the car will let the rest down lol.

And Paul bless him looked very tearfully as I pulled out.

[MRV6]

They are sexy wheels mate. I'm sure after you had come all that way it was worth it.

[snowtigger]

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/07/246.jpg (http://s223.photobucket.com/user/snowtigger1969/media/IMG_2391.jpg.html)

tried the back on tonight hmmm its just resting on the first thread of the studs, so either longer studs or adapter brackets and 45/50mm spacers.

[dgh938peg]

Very nice!! :)

[Goldy]

They look shit mate send em back ;-)

[snowtigger]

not a cat in hells chance mate these are going on for jae.

just need to sort out adapters front and rear and away we go, plus some decent rubber will 245 tires fit 10 inch wide rims mmm we shall have to find out.

goodyear eagle f1 v2 look like a good choice.