My stock Mk1 going Brutal.

[Paul Woods]

Well aside from the mental V8 i also have this mint stocker sat on my driveway, i enjoyed driving her last summer, went to JAE in it and thrashed around the lakes in her, all good fun but something was missing for me. The car itself is pretty mint, everything on it is new from Toyota, the full running gear/braking system is all new, the bodywork is mint, not a spot of rust anywhere, so, it's time to get the grinder out!

It's time for this car to go Brutal, i already have her new heart transplant sat on the engine stand at work, an Rx300 Vvti 1mz, an LSD equipped S54 gearbox and a few other toys which will come later.

The car itself is undergoing some steroid enhancing, my favourite wheels of all time are Borbet A's, so instead of the usual staggered route of 9 inch rears and 7.5 inch fronts, this bad boy is having 9 inch all round. I've started making the new arches at home, this will be all flush blended, i did think about rivet look but i think totally blended is classier.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/03/531.jpg

The front now looks exactly how i want it, phat as phuck. The sideskirts are going to be remodelled to curve around the wider arches so it will have an OEM look about it, i did this on a white Mk1 a few years ago.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/02/86.jpg

Lots to come...

[MRV6]

I'm pleased you have started another project so soon after completing the v8 (not). Get the bloody v8 finished first hollow head!

[snowtigger]

Nice one Paul I thought it wouldn't stay standard long, thought you would go 2gr or is that two mental cars is too much, love those borbets wish I had a set on my car they look just right, watch the wheel arch rubbing I have issues with my 7.5 hitting the arch liner.

And am I not classy enough now ( Rivet on arches).

[nik]

yes tiggs you have a 2gr we get it already lol!!

so we should see your power steering package on this one too with 9s up front?

[MRV6]

yes tiggs you have a 2gr we get it already lol!!



You kept that one quiet Tiggs, when did you get that done?

[snowtigger]

You kept that one quiet Tiggs, when did you get that done?

I don't like to talk about it mate as other people just get jealous, you know how it is.

[nik]

pmsl :yelrotflmao:

[snowtigger]

When's this bloody power steering getting sold as an upgrade or you fit it cause I'm getting older and more knackered by the day.

[Adam W]

I guess that the V8 is a mental toy car, whereas this will be "like a Mk1, only more" and you can use it everyday. I also have a VVTi lump sat at home so I will be watching this closely, my guess is that you get your engine swap completed before I can weld in a simple floorpan patch on mine :D

[Diesel Meister]

Paul, you clearly have a disease orthree when it comes to Mk1s :icon_lol:

[Goldy]

What happened to the 4age rebuilt engine for this on the stand?

[Paul Woods]

yes tiggs you have a 2gr we get it already lol!!

so we should see your power steering package on this one too with 9s up front?

Tiggs has a 2gr Mk1? Why wasn't i told about this! Pics or it didn't happen! :)

Yes matey i'm putting my power steering upgrade onto this one too, it's bloody fantastic even if i do say so myself. I tried lock to lock with the 9s on the front and it's still surprisingly light, but heavier than stock, so the PS mod will go on anyway just because it can really.

Tiggs the PS mod requires some dash cutting and heater box fettling, it's not a plug and play thing, let me get a few jobs out of the way and we can talk about getting yours done (the one you allegedly have a 2gr fitted to)

Adam you hit the nail on the head there, a 1mz Mk1 is a really great car, with VVti it's a screamer, not as mental as a 2gr Mk1 (although i doubt they even exist), but far less weighty and loooaaads of torque. You cannot beat a 3s-gte Mk1 for outright power though, i still love them, but in my old age i'm finding smooth torque delivery my bag.

Yep Diran, it's a disease mate, no known cure.

[Paul Woods]

What happened to the 4age rebuilt engine for this on the stand?

I sold it mate, the lure of the V6 was too great.

[Goldy]

Is it just bodywork that needs sorting on the V8?

[Paul Woods]

Yep, and a bit of arch liner welding, small floor patches and finding a way to mount the rear ARB. The V8 is more of a showpiece showing how far this crazy Mr2 engine swap stuff can go, but it doesn't make an especially good car, i wouldn't fancy driving 500 miles in it, so it will always be a novelty act, i'll never sell it or give up on it, but i also need a Mk1 i can drive, and get more involved with as a useable car. I've driven the V8 and it scares the crap out of me, which is its job really.

I hope that makes sense!

[snowtigger]

You fitted it mate and the biggest pic is on your bloody website, can't wait for some big mods this year all to help get the power down.

And I get we're your coming from as the 2gr is a bit full on for every day driving, us oldsters need a quite car every now and again.

What's this project going to be called? I thought the baboons bum is a good name for it as its red what do other people think?

[Diesel Meister]

Strangest coincidence Paul - my PC racing nick and XBL tag is NoKnownCure! Takes one to know one I guess heh. Good luck !

[MRV6]

Tiggs has a 2gr Mk1? Why wasn't i told about this! Pics or it didn't happen! :)

Yes matey i'm putting my power steering upgrade onto this one too, it's bloody fantastic even if i do say so myself. I tried lock to lock with the 9s on the front and it's still surprisingly light, but heavier than stock, so the PS mod will go on anyway just because it can really.

Tiggs the PS mod requires some dash cutting and heater box fettling, it's not a plug and play thing, let me get a few jobs out of the way and we can talk about getting yours done (the one you allegedly have a 2gr fitted to)

Adam you hit the nail on the head there, a 1mz Mk1 is a really great car, with VVti it's a screamer, not as mental as a 2gr Mk1 (although i doubt they even exist), but far less weighty and loooaaads of torque. You cannot beat a 3s-gte Mk1 for outright power though, i still love them, but in my old age i'm finding smooth torque delivery my bag.

Yep Diran, it's a disease mate, no known cure.

Look you spam javelin never mind ignoring me, get the bloody v8 finished.

[Jiff Lemon]

I've driven the V8 and it scares the crap out of me, which is its job really.

First in the queue to volunteer my services to drive it JAE for you. :thumbsup:

[Lee]

Look you spam javelin never mind ignoring me, get the bloody v8 finished.

Can only repeat the above! :smile:

[snowtigger]

paul has a v8 i dont believe it unless i see photographic proof it exists.

[Whore of Babylon]

Was looking forward to more V8 updates :( smash this one out quick paul. We want more V8 action.

[racerADS]

Is there any chance that this could be faster up the strip than a 2gr mk1? (if such a thing exists...) I mean one of those surely wouldn't be able to use all of that power and monster torque where as a 1MZ VVti, although blisteringly fast, might stand a better chance...

[nik]

power is nothing without control!
supposing the theoretical 2gr mystery machine did exist which i doubt, the delivery of torque from the VVti would at least let the power transfer into the tarmac before delivering but way off a 2gr time if they existed in the first place. 1/4 miles are all about the launch!

[Paul Woods]

Very true, i suppose a 1mz vvti Mk1 could well be right on the sweet spot of having just the right amount of torque without it turning into an unmanageable monster, so take offs could well be quicker.... sadly because a 2gr Mk1 doesn't exist we'll never get to compare them both :(

[snowtigger]

Very true, i suppose a 1mz vvti Mk1 could well be right on the sweet spot of having just the right amount of torque without it turning into an unmanageable monster, so take offs could well be quicker.... sadly because a 2gr Mk1 doesn't exist we'll never get to compare them both :(

Get to the strip in it you big Jessie ill show you a 2gr v 1mz mk1 drag race at japshow.

[Paul Woods]

I'm enjoying coming home and grabbing an hour on the car, i don't see the sort of progress i would at the garage but there's something satisfying about cracking a beer open and just pottering about in the sunshine.

Anyway, i've started remodelling the sideskirts that are essential to maintain the OEM look of what i'm trying to achieve, the skirt needs to look as if Toyota built a widebody version of the original, that's the plan anyway.

I cut off the arch part of the skirt and screwed that into the new arch lip (temporary), then made the bridging piece between the two sections....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/03/545.jpg

Once removed and sanded/painted, this should look factory equipment.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/03/546.jpg

[snowtigger]

Those rims are lush mate and this will look very cool when finished.

[boondougal]

Beer + Garage + Pottering = :icon_smile:

its the future!

[nik]

beer is essential cos you dont want to overthink a solution to a problem!

[Petergee541]

I'm enjoying coming home and grabbing an hour on the car, i don't see the sort of progress i would at the garage but there's something satisfying about cracking a beer open and just pottering about in the sunshine.



What's this sunshine stuff?

[vinp182]

Very interested in this project... Looking forward to following it :)

[dgh938peg]

Look you spam javelin never mind ignoring me, get the bloody v8 finished.

I love the term "spam javelin" it has a certain ring to it... Though similar can be said of Beef bayonet, though pork sword has more of an impacting "feel"

You're right though mate - the V8 needs finishing! :D

[dgh938peg]

beer is essential cos you dont want to overthink a solution to a problem!

Now i wish i had thought along this line sooner..... Once the back recovers i feel some beer & stationary car action afoot!

[adamh]

haha! far too much temptation, i wondered how long that would last.

[snowtigger]

We should have run a book on it, how long till Paul starts v6ing the red mk1.

We could start one on the v8 but how would we work out the odds of that?

I think jae this year unless he's secretly finished and is waiting to surprise every one, we all know how good he is at keeping a secret.

[Whore of Babylon]

yeh you just fix it with the closest tool you can find. *Yes you can undo a nut with a flat head and a hammer :D

[Paul Woods]

Another day spent on the homer, i fitted the rear wheel and cut the arch. The way i attach my arches is to make slits in the Mr2 outer panel and bend the tabs up, this gives the starting point of a secure base, the arch is then polyurethane bonded onto this lip and then fibralled in underneath and on top, it makes for a very strong job and if done correctly should never crack.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/paddy1970/Woodsport 5/Img_0620.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/paddy1970/Woodsport 5/Img_0621.jpg

The arch is then trimmed to suit and screwed in place with the polyurethane under it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/paddy1970/Woodsport 5/Img_0622.jpg

The rear arches are bonded on lower down the arch slope, here you can see i've drawn yellow lines where the finished arch slope will be once fibral'd and filled.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/paddy1970/Woodsport 5/Img_0624.jpg

I worked on the sideskirt modification at the same time, this is done by cutting the rear part off, temporarily screwing that to the arch and attaching the body part as it would normally be. The arch is then taped up and a generous amount of Fibral used to bridge the gap, this stuff is very strong and once the back side is also bonded it will never break or crack...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/paddy1970/Woodsport 5/Img_0625.jpg

The basic structural work completed...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/paddy1970/Woodsport 5/Img_0627.jpg

I love the OEMedness of this look, just a fatter more aggressive styled Mk1 than stock.

I've also placed the arch with a view to lowering the car a little more, well around an inch lower! So it'll be fat n low.

[cdwood2010]

Very nice work there mr woods.

It's like you've done it before!

;)

[Paul Woods]

Once or twice before mate! :)

[snowtigger]

those rims and that arch mod make me want to do mine oem, im so jealous of your talent mr woods you create such nice work.

and i want a set of those phat rims yours and nik just look soo sweet phat and low is the way to go.

[MRV6]

I'm enjoying coming home and grabbing an hour on the car, i don't see the sort of progress i would at the garage but there's something satisfying about cracking a beer open and just pottering about in the sunshine.



Fooking hell son you don't want to be drinking and working on a car or it will end up looking like a fiat multipa.

[OlberJ]

Ewwww, stretched tyres.

[Paul Woods]

Don't worry they're not staying on mate.

[Tommytank]

What do you do with the inner arch once the outer is cut from it Paul?

[dgh938peg]

PW.... Are you not concerned about handling issues having 9's all round???
(love the archwork obviously!)

[Paul Woods]

Well i've had 215's on the front of a Mk1 before and it handled fine, just a little heavier on the steering, but my PS kit should sort that, i guess i'll have to suck it and see on these rims and take it from there, i must admit i'm fitting these more for style than handling, i don't think it will be as good as with the stock 15" rims and 195 tyres mate.

Tommy the inner arch gets fibreglassed into the new outer arch to keep it all water tight, there's no structural merit in this area.

[dgh938peg]

Furry muff mate... I am all for Form > Function.......

These are what will be on the corners of the V8 (should i ever get chance to attack it)

18x9 ET50 (+25mm spacer to clear calipers) and 18x12 ET5 ... that's a 5 1/2" outer lip....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/19.jpg

Tried them on the stock rev5 ... just to see how big the width challenge is!
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/20.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/21.jpg

FPMSL!!!

[snowtigger]

Paul what size are the wheels and what offset are they, I only ask cause I need some drag wheels for my mk1 .

[Tommytank]

They look like 16x9 on the rear, a common Borbet size.

Paul, that answers a lot. Looks like thats my solution...

[Paul Woods]

Yes what i've basically got is two pairs of Borbet 16x9 rears, it looks awesome to be honest.

Dan, holy sheeat! those rear rims are ridiculous! But bang on mate, love it.

[snowtigger]

Would the 5x112 fit my rears Paul I know there 5x114, just thinking would getting them welded and redrilled work?

[Paul Woods]

No Tiggs don't do that, yours are 5 x 114.3 by the way.

Just get different wheels that fit a Mk2 for your rears if you want to change.

[MRV6]

PW.... Are you not concerned about handling issues having 9's all round???
(love the archwork obviously!)

Paula can handle 9 inches all day long mate.

[MRV6]

Furry muff mate... I am all for Form > Function.......

These are what will be on the corners of the V8 (should i ever get chance to attack it)

18x9 ET50 (+25mm spacer to clear calipers) and 18x12 ET5 ... that's a 5 1/2" outer lip....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/19.jpg

Tried them on the stock rev5 ... just to see how big the width challenge is!
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/20.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/21.jpg

FPMSL!!!

Woof woof those wheels are horny as hell! Me likes. Attack, attack!

[snowtigger]

No Tiggs don't do that, yours are 5 x 114.3 by the way.

Just get different wheels that fit a Mk2 for your rears if you want to change.

Cheers ears just looking at wheel options as love the borbets on nik and yours they just suit a mk1 soo well, not a fan of the stretched rubber though, the mk2 rims are just too modern, it needs some retro deep dish action on the mk1 oh well back to the drawing board think I'm going to wait till after the house move as I have loads of othe upgrades planned.

[Spook]

RE
18x9 ET50 (+25mm spacer to clear calipers) and 18x12 ET5 ... that's a 5 1/2" outer lip....

ooof

[Paul Woods]

I've been quietly building up the engine for this car, 3 litres of V6 VVti goodness with new MLS head gaskets, nut and bolt detailing job, gone for gumetal grey and satin black theme.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/28.jpg

Can't wait to get this fitted.

[loadswine]

Looks cracking mate! Did you do any headwork on this one, or is there no point with the VVTi ?

[Paul Woods]

Hi Nige, i'm thinking of some supercharging in the future so the headwork isn't really needed.... in the meantime i'll be very happy with it in standard form i think, a 1mz in a Mk1 is fantastic and i don't think anyone has built a VVti one yet, although Limey has one on TB's i can't remember if he's still using the VVti?

[dgh938peg]

mmmmm ... new nuts and bolts make such a difference! :thumbsup:

[Paul Woods]

A little more structural work done between the Buddy club front lip and the arches, built these areas up to flow nicely from one to the other, when this is all sanded and smooth it will look like it's always been that way...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/63.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/64.jpg

[Paul Woods]

The toy buying for this project continues, £1200 worth of KW Variant 2 Coilovers... i've heard such good things about these, fully adjustable for height, bump and rebound.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/paddy1970/Woodsport 5/35256004.jpg

Also bought Jims Technotoy Tuning camber adjustable top mounts, hopefully they will work with these, or if not i'll make modifications to get them to fit.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2097&d=1333898301

I want to also look at braking, something that fits under the 16" Borbets, there is not a lot of offset clearance between the Borbets rear spoke face and the stock caliper, might just go for some St185 twinpots or some radial mount Brembos if they will fit.

EDIT: Also thought of the project name, Project MRX300 (Mr2 + RX300 engine), original eh.

[snowtigger]

You not building your own coilovers for this one then Paul?

[Paul Woods]

No, i haven't got time on this build, and i wanted something with real quality. There is nothing wrong with DIY coilovers on a budget but i've decided to spend a bit on this one.

[Paul Woods]

Don't think i've shown you guys the seats i'm using, Fiat Strada Abarth fishnet Recaros....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/68.jpg

[geoff]

lack of time, is this because you need the time to finsh the V8?

loving the seats

[snowtigger]

Very fking nice those tasty work there Paul, I like my original ones wish I could fit my old Alfa 156 sport wagon seats those were lush hight adjustable as well I had the set right on the floor.

Are these shocks better than the inverted monotube bc racing coilovers?

[Paul Woods]

I've too many projects, and i need to try and do this car for lemans and JAE.

[Paul Woods]

Are these shocks better than the inverted monotube bc racing coilovers?

I really don't know mate, but the general feedback on these looks very good.

[snowtigger]

Ah tried looking at the kw web site they only list the sw20 or spider, did you have to ring them for fitment options?

I quite like the look of the variant3 kit but I bet it's a hell of a lot dearer.

[Paul Woods]

Variant 3 is a lot dearer, around £1500 i think.

The ones i have gone for aren't for the Mk1, they are Mk2 which are essentially the same except for the top mounts, and that's were my purchase from Jim comes in.

[Adam W]

Wow, this is looking great! You can tell it's going to be a keeper for you :smile: Can I ask where you got the engine rebuild stuff from, Toyota or is there a cheaper source? I'd like to do timing belt/HG/oilpump on mine, it would be great to renew the bolts as well but I bet Mr T would charge me more than I paid for the engine for a bag of bolts!

I looked at the BC coilovers for mine, but after reading Jim-SR's write up of them on here I was put off completely; KW suspension has got a much better reputation among various marques.

[Paul Woods]

Cheers Adam, i think that engine colour scheme would look great in your bay!

I got my MLS gaskets from Toyota, only £37 each, much cheaper than copy parts! Go figure that out! Timing belt is from my local motor factors, Gates quality, same belt as non VVti 1mz.

Yep, she's definately a keeper, i'll never part with this one or the V8.

[snowtigger]

So mk2 suspension will fit a mk1 except for the top mounts? Well you learn some thing new ever day.

Thanks for that paul will be watching your report on these shocks as I like the idea of stainless steel parts and you can rebuild them.

[Paul Woods]

That's Mk1b only Tiggs, Mk1a hubs are different on the rear, you can still use Mk2 stuff but it needs spacers on the hub mounting bolts etc so really it's Mk1b only.

[snowtigger]

I thought you fitted mk1b rear and front hubs suspension all round dude during the conversion for the konis ?

Because the theory was i would only need mk1 b kit from then on as you needed mk1b rear triangles of that full setup I bought because i fubared that front hub.

[Paul Woods]

On your car yes, i thought we were talking Mk1a in general.

[snowtigger]

Sorry mate I realise mk1a are a frigging pain but I like the interiour over a b lol.

Got two sets of mk1b leather door cards for some strange reason.

[snowtigger]

Just seen techno website they do camber adjusters and flip tie rod ends for eliminating bump steer, I may try there weld on ground control kites they look ver tasty.

[Adam W]

Cheers Adam, i think that engine colour scheme would look great in your bay!

I got my MLS gaskets from Toyota, only £37 each, much cheaper than copy parts! Go figure that out! Timing belt is from my local motor factors, Gates quality, same belt as non VVti 1mz.

Yep, she's definately a keeper, i'll never part with this one or the V8.

Is there anything else I should do? I was thinking I should do oil pump, water pump, cambelt + tensioners (are they included in the Gates kit?) and full gasket kit (ebay?).

[Paul Woods]

There really isn't a great need to do anything on the 1mz aside from the HGs and cambelt, i honestly wouldn't bother changing oil pump, if the water pump spins without sounding noisy keep it, this is not true of 3vz pumps, they are weaker by design, and both 1mz and 3vz pumps get changed on customers swaps because we have to give such long warranty, but it's honestly overkill on the 1mz, no need unless you're feeling flush.

Cambelt,HG's,bolts,thermostat,oils,filter.... good to go.

[Adam W]

That's great, maybe I can afford a gearbox to go behind it :)

[Paul Woods]

Having a gearbox is always a good thing :)

[OlberJ]

KW's?

Monsieur, with this suspension you are really spoiling us!

Brilliant set up there, you will not be disappointed.

[Spook]

Paul

What would you recommend as an all round body filler?
OR do you prefer one for filling dents/rust holes & another for joining over flexible arches n stuff??


A little more structural work done between the Buddy club front lip and the arches, built these areas up to flow nicely from one to the other, when this is all sanded and smooth it will look like it's always been that way...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/63.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/64.jpg

[Paul Woods]

Hi Spook, i use as little filler as possible, i only use that stuff as a very thin cosmetic layer, it just cracks far too easily. The bulk of my bodymods involve as much Fibral as possible, which is amazing stuff for bridging gaps, building up profiles and sculpting, give that a rough sand to get the basic shape then finish off with a light layer of Easysand filler. Finally i take out any pinholes and imperfections with stopper paste. The high build primer will take care of any remaining scratches etc after that.

[Spook]

thanks Paul, I'll go look up those products

i've got some tidying up to do when the weathers warmer, (no garage)

[adamh]

those seats are very comfy looking :cool:

[Paul Woods]

Today saw the first layer of Fibral put into the rear arch, this gives it the correct slope and a ton of strength, from here on this will get sanded to the correct contour and light layers of filler used after that to get the finished arch. My rear wheels are badly in need of a refurb.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/127.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/128.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/129.jpg

The front arches need only minimal work as they have the correct arch slope to start with.

[boondougal]

Paul... man flu is a debilitating condition, you are not supposed to still be able to display skills that i can only dream of while stuck down with it!

I like the way this is coming together!

[Paul Woods]

Cheers mate, fed up with snot now! I went outside yesterday just to get a bit of fresh air and ended up working on the car :)

[snowtigger]

you getting the caged lion syndrome keep pacing the house wanting to do some thing but mr snot says no, keep active burn that flu out of you.

[Paul Woods]

Torture, i made myself go outside and work on it out of frustration, couldn't manage more than 20 minute stints, working and a fever really don't mix.

[Adam-MGTF]

Cool project paul... throbbing V6 + Low + wide... will be tasty... low rider meets jap legend?

having seen the V8 mate I can 100% see why this is a better project... the V8 is cool but there is no way I'd stick one on the public highway and im a total nutter, drivability will beat the 2 extra cylinders of pub bragging rights

[Paul Woods]

Thanks mate.

Work continued today on the arches, i finished off one of them that now only requires high build primer and painting...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/338.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/339.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/340.jpg

I also got the OSR arch fibral'd ready for final filler...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/341.jpg

The NSF arch has had its secondary fibral skim to get the basic profile right, lots more work to do here however...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/04/342.jpg

[headcase]

Looking good paul u work at home aswell ,
Weather not good here today.
Patrick

[snowtigger]

Looking cracking there big fella really liking the look, this is going to be a tasty mk1 when finished, I agree the v8 is insane for the road this will be a more civilised nutter v6 showing both sides of your business so mild to wild.

I think potential customers should get passenger rides in both so they can see the difference, I would just drool over that v8 as every time you fire it up it gives me a shiver down the spine and a huge grin factor.

[dgh938peg]

Very nice indeed Paul loving the bad-ass stance on this thing.... You need to take a look here mate >> http://www.stancenation.com/

Maybe not the whole hog but i think you could do a lot worse than serious slammage (which i know you're doing anyway)...

Remind me what v6 you're doing buddy? Are you going to try a 2gr perhaps? I don't think it's possible though.....

[Paul Woods]

Cor, some cracking machinery on that Stance nation, hours of viewing pleasure there mate, why have i not seen that before? Indeed, my plan is to drop this thing on its arse once the arches are done, wham the 1mz VVti motor in and create a useable brutal Mk1.

I'd love to have gone 2gr matey but it will remain forever an unachieveable dream in the Mr2 world.

[dgh938peg]

Cor, some cracking machinery on that Stance nation, hours of viewing pleasure there mate, why have i not seen that before? Indeed, my plan is to drop this thing on its arse once the arches are done, wham the 1mz VVti motor in and create a useable brutal Mk1.

There's a mk2 TRD on there with 12.5 rears on it.... Looks utterly incredible.... Absolutely fabbo website!


I'd love to have gone 2gr matey but it will remain forever an unachieveable dream in the Mr2 world.

Yeah ... it's a shame indeed, i hope one day somebody will make that impossibility a reality but fear it may just be a step too far! :D

[Paul Woods]

If they did build one they'd never stop talking about it.

[cdwood2010]

If they did build one they'd never stop talking about it.

I dunno, i think the kind of person that would put a 2gr in a Mk1 would be the small, quiet, low key person that didn't really mention it much.

:)

[Spook]

[QUOTE=dgh938peg;253960]There's a mk2 TRD on there with 12.5 rears on it.... Looks utterly incredible.... Absolutely fabbo website!

Yeah seen that one, here -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhAPouqlcts&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPtmFPbbsis&feature=related

love the look, rubbing tyres a bit too nuts for me but have come to conclusion a TRD widebody would be my ultimate MR2, somehow they seem to work realy well in deep red and wide rims!

[cdwood2010]

Lol.

Silly sausage with big tyres.

Time for some arch roiling!

Effing nice whip tho init!?

C.

[Paul Woods]

Part of my excercise in building my ultimate "useable" Mk1 is giving it a big brake upgrade, not for performance reasons though, my stock brakes were excellent, but i've had a lot of experience fitting big calipers to Mk1's in the past with great results.

I did consider a few options, including Keri's excellent WMS kit, but my budget wouldn't stretch that far and i need to spend in other areas.

So armed with piston specs, master cylinder displacements and my best guess i've come up with the following combo.

I've bought some Aston Martin V8 Vantage rear four pot Brembos, the piston size and caliper size is just about perfect....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/61.jpg

Now to get these working behind my Borbet wheels is no easy task, i have 45mm to play with between the stock disc face and the back of the wheel spokes, the Brembos are 60mm from their disc face to the outside of the caliper, so i needed 15mm from somewhere. It is not possible to fit spacers because my arches are already done.... poo.

So i set about researching discs, finding one with 15mm more offset inside the hub to take the disc inboard enough to both clear the caliper mounting point and also give me that extra spoke clearance. In the end i found some Range Rover II 2.5 TD (94-02) discs that are pretty much perfect. They are 297mm diameter, 25mm thick and will place the caliper in the right spot with mm's to spare.... awesome.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/62.jpg

The only mod i need to do is drill the 4x100 PCD into them and have some spigot rings made (70.0mm OD, 54.1mm ID, 5mm thick), after that i'll make some caliper brackets, pretty easy being radial mounted ones, done this loads of times before.

I'll also be going for Goodridge hoses, Renault 5 turbo ones to be exact, they're perfect for calipers like this.

[snowtigger]

Exquise me is this for the rear?

And will those back brakes fit a 5 114.3 stud

[Paul Woods]

No, they are rear calipers on the Vantage, but these are for the front on the Mk1.

[snowtigger]

I will wait for your opinion on them mate as the st205 setup is good but sticks abit when not used for a week or two, plus later going 5 stud front hub so will want some 114.3 discs unless the st205 fit?

It looks a good setup mate is it rim size and price over the Porsche 996 brakes on the v8 versus Aston ?

[Paul Woods]

If they are sticking you need to get them serviced, it's not the caliper conversion to blame there, they require maintenance mate.

Celica PCD is different to Mk2, so no the St205 discs won't work.

On the V8 i have 17" rims fitted, which allows me to go to 330mm discs, on this car i have 16" rims, so 300mm is my max, both the V8 setup and this one are using Brembos.

[snowtigger]

Cool mate and yes they probably need a good service like every thing else, was thinking bigger brake discs any way as Rota gtd-r are now doing 12 inch wide but only in 18 fitment, so not a problem on brake size only don't want the mk1 to look to comical on 18inch wheels.

[Paul Woods]

You'll suffer really bad tram lining on 18's, they will catch everywhere on full lock and your steering will be harder to move than getting Phil to the bar.

[snowtigger]

Your steering will be harder to move than getting Phil to the bar.

ooh that is bad next to impossible for Phil to get his wallet out never mind going to the bar, I'm not going there then probably next year a custom set of alloys for me then in 16/17 with the correct offset and pcd.

What's your rear setup going to be standard 22v? Hi spec are doing an sva approved rear spot caliper that fixes to there rear brake setup.

[adamh]

calipers look like they will do the job!

[Paul Woods]

Yep, they should do the job grand i reckon mate.

Today was spent doing more arch work, i end up looking like a cocaine dealer that's had an accident but it's a necessary evil to get the job done. Lot's more profiling to get the arch flowing nicely into the front lip but it's starting to take shape.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/63.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/64.jpg

A few more weekends of this and it'll be ready for some high build primer and then paint.

[Goldy]

looks real smart there paul, it'll look like stock+ when painted! :icon_rr:

[Paul Woods]

Cheers Goldy, still a bit to do on the sideskirts etc but it's getting there.

[Paul Woods]

Bank holidays are effing marvy aren't they?

This morning i have mostly been doing the Woodsport crystal sidelight/indicator mod.

I showed a few of you these little beautys at JAE last year, we all know about the clear lenses you can buy from Toyota but it always bugged me that you can get nice crystal side repeaters but nothing to match the front, the opaque bathroom shower door look of the "clear" lenses is not clean enough for this build, i wanted something new looking and fresh.

So, i had these custom made, proper divided housings with sidelight and orange indicator bulbs, glass fronted lenses, none of your plastic here oh no! Metal bodied surround and a custom bracket, they cost a fortune to do but hey ho i'm a Mk1 nutjob and <flicks hair> ..... i'm worth it.

Woodsport crystals...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/65.jpg

They are slightly smaller than stock, i wanted to narrow the bumper apeture with this mod, to make them slightly less understated... the devil's in the detail and all that crap. When it's flushed over and painted the bumper will look stock to the uninitiated.

Designed to compliment these repeaters...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/66.jpg

Clears Vs Woodsport Crystals...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/67.jpg

The crystals mocked up....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/68.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/69.jpg

And with the apeture modified with its first stage of Fibral...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/70.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/71.jpg

I like this..... a lot.

[Diesel Meister]

Lovely stuff Paul :thumbsup:

[adamh]

looks good, viewing angle staying the same?

[Paul Woods]

Yep the angles are all the same Ads.

[snowtigger]

Very nice Paul definitely looking cool what a difference, I've got toyotas but never fitted them as too much rusty screws so they may go pop.

[Paul Woods]

Spent more time on the WS crystal sidelight mod, almost finished the bumper apertures now, i think it'll take a keen eye to spot they have been modified once painted.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/103.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/104.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/105.jpg

Working on the last of the wheel arches now along with the sideskirts, not long before it sees some paint.

[adamh]

looking ace, even better with paint!.

[loadswine]

Cracking, I really like the Mk1, and this is looking superb! Should be a brilliant drive too.

[hmmmmm]

Those are the details that make this car brutal! Looks like a lovely bit of kit, how many people have asked for a set of those lights sofar? :smile:

(( Paul, ive seen you use the fibral stuff before, is it much different then other fibre glass putty? I ordered some cheaper glass putty (http://www.autolackcenter.de/spachteln/glasfaser/glasfaserspachtel-2.html) a while back but im a bit worried about using this stuff to attach the arches, as it might crack. Although the description basically says the same thing as the fibral putty ))

[Paul Woods]

Believe it or not nobody! I think modifying the bumper aperture puts a lot of people off.

I haven't seen that make of putty before so can't comment, but if you want me to get you some Fibral (or it's close alternative i sometimes use) then let me know and i'll ship some over.

[MRV6]

Believe it or not nobody! I think modifying the bumper aperture puts a lot of people off.

I haven't seen that make of putty before so can't comment, but if you want me to get you some Fibral (or it's close alternative i sometimes use) then let me know and i'll ship some over.

Bloody hell I JUST can't believe it. Next thing you will be telling us, you can put a 2gr in it. Do what the hell you want it's a mk1.

[MRV6]

Why I am I still Slaggie Arseburn? What do they call Neil Tennants Lass?

[snowtigger]

I would like some just need the bumper to look like black plastic so ultra hard to do.

[nik]

looking super woods..
i used fibral (halfords £15 a tin) on zombie and whenever im doing body work. its very workable after its set too with hand files and sand paper.

[Paul Woods]

It's excellent stuff, the big boys use it on speaker builds on mad show cars etc

[Paul Woods]

All four arches are now in high build primer, this is just the first coat, it will take a few hours of wet flatting and more high build before it gets the desired finish and then i can concentrate on the top coat.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/418.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/419.jpg

Front modified indicator recesses now primed, i can see these still need work but pretty happy so far.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/420.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/421.jpg

So a few more weekends of this and it should be ready for paint.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/422.jpg

[Adam W]

I meant to ask in a another thread what paint system you use, is it 2K or something different? I would love to be able to spray at home, have a big garage and lots of space, but the cost of gear soon adds up!

[Paul Woods]

I work with both 2k and base coat/lacquer , this primer is 2k and I'll use 2k red due to me painting outside on this car. You can get amazing results even outside on a still warm day as long as its flattened and polished afterwards.

You can set up your own home spray system for under £400 initially and after that it's just material cost.

[Adam W]

What do you use for PPE with 2K? I thought you needed an airfed mask and full biohazard suit as it was so poisonous, that's the main thing that's been putting me off. I have some decent buffing/polishing equipment already. I would be very interested to hear exactly what you need in terms of LPM, tank capacity etc to do a decent job. My tin bashing has come on no end in the last few months, so if I could paint as well I would be able to do restoration work on cars that would make no financial sense otherwise.

[hmmmmm]

one word: autobody101.com

For the occasional paint job a full suit and air fed mask might be a bit overkill. A properly filtered mask and throw away suit should be fine, just make sure you have good ventilation where ever youre working. If youre planning on doing more paintjobs i would definitely invest in better gear though, you can never spend too much on safety equipment!

[Paul Woods]

Agreed, it all depends how big a scale you want to go, take my driveway homebuild, i'm taking advantage of glorious hot summer days without a breath of air, in conditions like that it's possible to paint one panel per time without much equipment. I run HVLP gravity fed guns which have a low CFM consumption and very little waste product, so i can turn the gun right down, and there is hardly any discharge into the atmosphere, i use a simple paper mask for this.

Now inside is a totally different ballgame, in my workshop spraybooth i have a good extractor unit that pulls air out of the booth, i also have a top notch air fed mask and if painting a whole car a paper suit is a must.... 2k is fucking nasty gear folks!

I wouldn't normally dream of painting outside, but this homebuild demands i do so, it will be interesting to see what results can be had with no garage at all.

A bare equipment list for garage/booth painting....

Decent extraction, you don't need a proper extractor, some radiator fans wired up and placed over a hole in the wall/windowframe/door works very well.... one of my old garages had a window i could remove and insert a double radiator cooling fan panel into it, that extracted very well.

You want at least a 14CFM compressor, HVLP gravity fed gun, a decent regulator with water trap and air fed mask.

The last requirement is cleanliness, your car will become a positively charged dust magnet as soon as you start painting, i wrap a chain around the axle/subframe etc and earth it to the floor to discharge static, amazingly it works.

I don't paint full time anymore but have been doing it all my working life, it can be a frustrating business when things are not going well, and there is nobody that can help you with gun setting up etc, each painter has his own methods, it's really a case of long term trial and error.

If there is anything you need help with just ask.

[boondougal]

Very timely advice there Paul, my first paint job ever starts this week! Didn't think to earth the car so already it's going to be better.

[MRV6]

. 2k is fucking nasty gear folks!


Yeah we know, we've seen what it's done to you!

[Adam W]

I guess the big issue for me would be extracting the fumes into my neighbours gardens . . . they are quite tolerant of my habit of angle grinding along to Metallica, but I think actually poisoning them might upset them somewhat. Can you extract through a filter or something?

[Paul Woods]

You could extract to large bore pipework, you know the aluminium flexible stuff used for boilers/ gas fires etc.... you could route that somewhere safe.

[Paul Woods]

I managed to find some super rare mirror'd T bar panels, i've been after these for years, they are actual mirror glass, not film.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/431.jpg

[Adam W]

Never seen those before, that looks pretty cool. It would be awesome if you could do the side windows to match, I guess that would be highly illegal though!

[Paul Woods]

They also serve a purpose, reflect a lot of heat away in summer, the standard panels turn T bars into a bloody greenhouse!

[Chris69]

Damn it i was wondering who got them, were on ebay for about 1/2 an hour. Good purchase mate :thumbup:

sent from my foot to your arse!

[Rowdan]

They also serve a purpose, reflect a lot of heat away in summer, the standard panels turn T bars into a bloody greenhouse!

Do they bollocks, the only way to prevent heat build up is to take them out....doesn't matter wether they are mirrored or not when they're behind the seats. lmao

That sounds a bit harsh... wasn't meant that way just I do find my t-bar like a fucking furnace when the sun shines even with mirrored panels.

[Paul Woods]

Have you not got sunshades with yours as well Row? They help a little.

[dgh938peg]

The bloody panels are supposed to be taken out the first glimmer of sun anyway you doofus! Hence no greenhouse problem and extremely burnt head for me!

[Paul Woods]

Actually you have a point there Dan! I find it's the time it's parked up in the sun when i first go out to it, it's like stepping inside Satans front room.

[Spook]

earth the car... well fuck me, you live & learn

[Paul Woods]

Yep, it sits on rubber, you know sometimes you get an electric shock touching the shell, shows you how much charge they can hold, all of that friction going nowhere.... then before a car is prepped it's scotch brited or sanded, lots of friction!! So the car turns into a big positively charged dust magnet... then things get worse as you apply a wet painted surface which sucks dust to the surface with the same gravitational pull as a small moon.

Earthing the chassis definitely helps.

[Spook]

Right Ok, all that is fantastic info Paul. I too am just starting my first little bit of painting, used POR15 to arrest the rust on the passenger door bottom edge and as a base coat, will work up from there.

A question,
Ive got the mk 2 engine side air inlets that have been converted to single inlet and painted up in a different colour (Cosmos Blue), my car is the lighter Azure Blue.

Is my best bet for prep, just to very lightly sand with fine grade wet & dry as a key surface for the new paint, or should I sand deeper and apply an undercoat as well?

ta

[Paul Woods]

Provided the finish is ok now, all you need to do is scotch it and apply a rattle can grey primer (azure covers pretty well over grey), however if the finish requires some deeper sanding that breaks the original paint you will need to high build it, then 240,500 then 1500 wet/dry before your basecoat. If you don't high build it you will get "furring" around the edges where you sanded through, the basecoat is mixed 50/50 with thinner, and because of the high thinner content it bites into old paint very easily, effectively like using paint stripper where you least want it! If in any doubt just scotch it and prime.

Basecoat is a bitch for colour matching unless you're blowing it into the surrounding panels, you may well end up with an "edge to edge" finish with a slight colour variation though.

[Spook]

You should mark this thread for prep & paint, cos its a treasure trove!

Some newbie type questions -

RE 'I work with both 2k and base coat/lacquer, OK, looked that up & got an education!
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=2k+paint&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

QUESTION is the paint in rattle cans, celulose?

Looked up high build primer, ah.. you have mentioned UPOL before

QUESTION, Scotch it? is that a masking tape? ie. you mean mask off the area & prime, due to 50/50 mix biting into existing paint??

[dgh938peg]

Or maybe split off to a "Paul's painting tips and guru sesh love in" rather than cover an epic project build! :thumbsup:

[Goldy]

QUESTION, Scotch it? is that a masking tape? ie. you mean mask off the area & prime, due to 50/50 mix biting into existing paint??

I think he means scotch-brite... its an abrasive pad :

http://www.vikingtapes.co.uk/Abrasives/3M_Scotch_Brite_Non_Woven_Abrasives/3M_Scotch_Brite_Hand_Pads/3m_scotch_brite.htm?gclid=CLy46OWFqrACFcohfAodYR0C Sw

[Adam W]

No, he definitely means Scotch:

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/479.jpg

Remember kids: single malts are for drinking, blends are for priming paint.

[Paul Woods]

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/05/480.jpg
No i meant smear one of these all over the panel before painting :)

A scotch pad is of course an abrasive pad in either red (coarse) or grey(not so coarse)

High build= i use Mipa 4+1

Yes i believe rattle can paint is Celly with a very high thinner content, hence its piss thin consistency, i only use that when the surface is already pretty much perfect as it has hardly any depth to it for covering scratches.

Maybe we should start a painting thread?

[Paul Woods]

Ok back on topic now folks, it's been pissing down outside, so no chance of any bodywork, so i decided to tackle a little dash project i've been cooking up. I've always liked digital gauges (it's a Knight rider thing), giving exact figures instead of a needle pointing "somewhere", now the stock analogue gauges work fine, but i've fancied dragging the dash bang up to date for ages.

So here it is, i still have work to do to the bezel, so please forgive the makeshift gauge surround, a few hours work will see it 100%, but you get the idea.

This copies the Mk1 readouts, so oil pressure, volts, coolant temp and fuel gauge all work, i especially like the fuel gauge reading as a percentage. I've also colour coded them red to match the car, but any colour could have been possible.

So another little cool mod this car is getting, i have a few more things in the pipeline, but hopefully none of them going too OTT.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/06/13.jpg

[cdwood2010]

Ooh very nice work!

Is there a mk2 version?

:)

[Paul Woods]

No there fucking isn't lol

A Mk2 version would be just as doable though.

[cdwood2010]

Oh go on!

I said it was nice!

:(

[snowtigger]

Too fucking digital for me I'm an analog kind of guy I need to be pw on speed dial to try and work out what a percentage is.

It is pretty special but just not my cuppa sorry mate.

[Torero]

Very impressive Paul :thumbsup:

[Tommytank]

Oooh, i do like that. On the ballache scale of creating, i take it its quite high?

[Paul Woods]

I need to be pw on speed dial to try and work out what a percentage is.


When you have 100% your tank is full, when it's 0% it's empty lol , the rest of the gauges read actual volts, degrees and psi, only the fuel gauge is a %.

Tommy it's just some slim digital gauges mounted inside the dash, a little bit of cutting away at the plastic with a dremel and setting the gauges into the frame with fibral, then making the bezel with some black plastic (i cut up an old DVD case). The gauge units themselves were expensive though, and by the time i paid import duty i'm into this mod for a ridiculous amount of money.

Cheers Torero! :thumbsup:

[adamh]

like em!, do you have any acetate film tints for them for night driving? how do you pick up the signal, and transform it?

[Paul Woods]

They auto dim when the headlights are turned on Ads. The instruments themselves are prebuilt 52mm slim gauges, i didn't make them, just mounted them inside the gauge cluster, the oil press and water temp come with their own sender units, the other two just work as normal.

[nik]

...I've always liked digital gauges (it's a Knight rider thing)....

i bloody knew one day i would have a use for this pic..
2204

[Paul Woods]

LOL, you bastard, that's class! Spookily similar chest area too LOL

Twat!

[Torero]

i bloody knew one day i would have a use for this pic..
2204

ROTALMFAO :yelrotflmao: :yelrotflmao: :yelrotflmao:

Is that what you're wearing to JAE, Paul?

[Paul Woods]

Balls to that! I've made it my new avatar though, awesome!

In topic related news i've decided on the red i'm going for, it's a Mk3 Mr2 red, known as "Absolutely Red" code 3P0.... as seen here on this LFA... gorgeous shade of red.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/06/39.jpg

[snowtigger]

I said if I won the lottery I would get mrs tiggs a Lexus and I would have a Lexus lfa ,she said what's difference yours would be a v6 and 35 grand mine would be a v10 and 300 thousand, she said that's not fair you've got more cylinders than me.

[Spook]

Still my favourite wheels on my favourite sounding engine, alas I will never have one : (
Still really happy with my 2 though

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/06/39.jpg[/QUOTE]

[Paul Woods]

Not much to update due to the absolutely crap weather making it impossible to work on the car outside, but i am in the middle of retrimming my interior in black suede, up to now it looks really good, a much cosier place to be with no glare. I'll post pics when it's back together.

Also continuing my JDM theme for this car i managed to get my hands on a set of Koito retract foglights, they are brand new, cost me a fortune too, but i figure it will be a nice touch.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/07/3.jpg

Hopefully i can crack on with the bodywork again once summer decides to arrive.

[adamh]

fog lights are too cool.

[Goldy]

Like the lights, is it going to be ready for JAE?

[Paul Woods]

That is the plan mate, bloody weather is a problem at the minute, might have to drive it to the garage and put the V8 outside to get it finished in time.

[Paul Woods]

Time to update this one, this year is all about finishing my projects off (fuck off Goldy :biggrin: ) , and i'm pleased to say this car will be getting a fresh respray sometime in the next 2-3 weeks, the arches are currently being finished off and most of the car has been flatted back ready for paint.

On that note there is now considerably less of the car to paint now, i have managed to get my hands on some uber rare stuff, continuing the theme of building what i consider to be the ultimate Mk1 with all of the trick JDM/rare parts from all over the world.

So far i've bought retract JDM foglights, mirror'd T tops, Fishnet Recaro seats, 9" Borbet A's all round, Brembo calipers, built a V6 VVti engine for it, Mk2 gearbox with LSD and extended 5th, bought Phillistines old AAS exhaust system for it, built a LED rear spoiler, JDM rear lights, modified the front sidelight apertures, Woodsport wide arches, Woodsport BC rep front lip, Full KW coilover kit (version 2) and built a one off digital display to convert the analogue needles to digits. So this really is my dream Mk1 with no expense spared.

Today the trophy parts continued, i managed to pick these beauties up, a Mk1 carbon bonnet, carbon headlight covers and a carbon engine lid... the engine lid in particular appears to be the only one of its kind worldwide, well we've never seen one anywhere!

Jaw dropping bits, cost me a small fortune mind you, but these are really going to set this car off...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/01/278.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/01/279.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/01/280.jpg

I'm on the lookout for carbon engine lid side panels if anyone knows of such a supplier.

More pics to come over the next few weeks as she goes into paint.

[pistol pete]

Wow it's gonna be awesome

[adamh]

nice lid. i hope no porsche v8's turn up in the next couple weeks!

[headcase]

oh carbon i like them

[Jiff Lemon]

could you not just get that bloke in brum to dip the side panels? Do the boot lid and spoiler at the same time too, then black roof it so you've a nice black top side...

[snowtigger]

Why not get one of your snorkels wrapped in carbon?

[Mk1Chris]

I'm on the lookout for carbon engine lid side panels if anyone knows of such a supplier.


There was a guy on MR2OC (American) who made these, i'll dig out the details. Also, a company called KD garage made a carbon bootlid - these are rare, but I narrowly missed out on one on american ebay, so they do come up.

Gonna look awesome anyway :thumbsup:


Why not get one of your snorkels wrapped in carbon?

Wrapping just wont do :eusa_hand: :wink:

[Paul Woods]

could you not just get that bloke in brum to dip the side panels? Do the boot lid and spoiler at the same time too, then black roof it so you've a nice black top side...I would Jiff but this car is all about being the best it can be with no expense spared on the very best trick parts ever made for the Mk1, wrap just won't do on this one.I have a custom carbon rear spoiler on the V8 that i might transfer over to this car, i think this could look stunning on this car...http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpghttp://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

On the V8 i'd go for an aftermarket wing of some sort instead, i just think that carbon blade is crying out to go on this car now.Cheers for that Chris, i'd be very interested in details of side panels or boot lid mate.

[Phaeton]

Not a recommendation as I have never used him, I actually don't like the look carbon fibre, but I'm sure if you ship a set of panels to him he can make a set http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/member.php?2988-CarBenFibre

Alan...

[Goldy]

Good work Paul! I look forward to seeing the finished result :fingersx:

[snowtigger]

Yep it's official I'm uber jealous of all the rare bits on your mk1 hey ho I will just have to content my self with a quick blast in the 2gr again.

Carry on Paul lets get more mk1 action at jae this year.

[Charged]

Nice Paul! Just up my street. My only concern would be the 9's up front but then I think you've mentioned before you're going for power steering.

Funnily enough I came across a UK supplier for Mk1 Carbon Bonnets the other day, they are expensive, around £500 irrc

[Paul Woods]

Hi Ollie, i drove the car just before it went into the paint booth to find out what the 9's up front were like and it is really light, it actually steers effortlessly, i have no idea how i have got away with that, so no PS needed on this one.

[snowtigger]

Are you using very low profile tyres Paul as mine feels great at about 10mph but nightmare reversing.

[Paul Woods]

Not terribly low profile, 45's i think.

[boondougal]

I'm getting a bit worried Paul, I think you are getting a bit seduced by all the bling and bright lights.... is see it being only a matter of time before you end up spending more time on another forum with a new ID Barryivegotwood-sport... www.barryboys.co.uk here you come..

don't worry i have already slapped myself.. jealousy is such a bad thing!!! :praise2::praise2::praise2:

[Paul Woods]

You raise a valid point there though mate, it's a fine line between a tastefully modified jap car and something that looks like it's done a ram raid at Halfords!

If i cross the line at any point you lot have permission to slap me hard.

[snowtigger]

Slap slap slapety slap then, I'm probably more guilty of the bling than you mate as I fancy a fookin huge carbon wing off the back of my mk1, one of those that look like it fell of the bat mobile jobs.

[Goldy]

You raise a valid point there though mate, it's a fine line between a tastefully modified jap car and something that looks like it's done a ram raid at Halfords!

If i cross the line at any point you lot have permission to slap me hard.

I do recall you building a halfords special corsa ;-)

[vish]

Slap slap slapety slap then, I'm probably more guilty of the bling than you mate as I fancy a fookin huge carbon wing off the back of my mk1, one of those that look like it fell of the bat mobile jobs.

genuinely love bgw's! I'm with you man!

[Paul Woods]

I do recall you building a halfords special corsa ;-)

I know but you never turned up to collect it. :)

[dgh938peg]

I know but you never turned up to collect it. :)

Hahahahaha! :rofl:

[Paul Woods]

The car is now being prepped for paint, the V8 carbon spoiler "winglets" got fitted to it today and the bootlid modified for the carbon blade, it just suits this car perfectly.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/01/291.jpg

[pistol pete]

Cannot wait to see the final product

[adamh]

superb. good to see it in the den

[snowtigger]

So you putting the engine in after then or have you already fitted it, plus are you going supercharger later?

[chief44]

Looking good Paul

[racerADS]

I am actually looking forward to seeing this car more than the V8. The perfect MK1, really glad you decided against keeping it standard Paul.

[Paul Woods]

Engine is going in after Tiggs, i have everything set ready to go.

Cheers chaps, the V8 is just a wild project but won't make a particularly useable Mk1, this car is going to be a Mk1 i can take out anytime and drive.

[snowtigger]

Which one are you bringing to jae is the major question this year it has to be both hasn't it?

[Paul Woods]

This one will definitely be there, all depends how far i get on with the V8 as to wether it will be there.

[snowtigger]

You'll do it now you've got the bit between your teeth, once bitten by the mr2 bug it won't let you go, the only problem you've got is too many play toys and with this mr2 you could get lax.

Is the turbo Yaris coming jae or is that being sold ?

If I had the money I would have taken it to Santa pod there having a fwd only shoot out with prize money.

[Paul Woods]

Yaris? Corolla you mean? That needs a few days fettling to make it good, time i haven't got right now.

[snowtigger]

Sorry I'm trying to find my cousin a cheap car for her because she has French shite Peugeot so trying to get her a Toyota Yaris or some thing 5 door Toyotaish, so had Yaris on the brain.

Love the corolla, one of my customers who's a car dealer had one in today an 03 reg in silver.

[Paul Woods]

The car is coming on leaps and bounds now, a lot more work gone into the carbon rear blade and custom side pieces, this is almost ready for paint now, and the blade will get relaquered. This just looks so right on this car, it looks like a more aggressive version of the stock spoiler and i absolutely love it, can't wait for it to be painted now....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/02/124.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/02/125.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/02/126.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/02/127.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/02/128.jpg

Of course custom work like this takes a long time to get right!

[adamh]

interesting..had to think ! of course its a 2 piece .. like a toupee

[Goldy]

Spoiler looks the nuts... maybe you should start making them? Much better than a big gay wing!

[snowtigger]

That looks fantastic have you thought of getting them made I know I would buy one.

[Paul Woods]

It might be tricky reproducing this, the carbon blade is from a Noble M12, which has been shortened by about 20" and one end inserted with captive bolts....i could get that molded i guess and have it in FG, the end pieces would have to be molded in two parts, so that would be 6 molds in total to make this, plus the brackets that weld to the lid to support the wing. It would all then depend where the brackets were welded on as to how it all lined up, this has taken hours of fannying around to get the shut lines right.

I would need to get orders of 20 or more to make it feasible and even then it would need some work at home, the quarter panels would need templates for them and drilling..... urgh.... nightmare!

[dgh938peg]

Keep it unique and special Paul....

just like you ! :rofl:

[Paul Woods]

That means the car will need to wear a dress on Thursday nights.

[Tommytank]

Paul, does that spoiler negate the boot opening? I cant quite suss it out from the pics...

[Paul Woods]

Hi Tommy, the blade part opens with the bootlid, it's on its own metal supports attached to the edges of the lid, i like how that is hard to spot, mission accomplished :)

[Paul Woods]

Took a couple of pics for you...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/02/129.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/02/130.jpg

Those bolts are temporary, i've got some countersunks on the way.

[Telecaster]

I've just found this thread and am liking what I see.

This car looks like it's being done by somebody who knows what he's doing and who cares about what he's doing !!

Excellent workmanship there Paul.

[snowtigger]

And a have a gimp box to put phillis in .

[racerADS]

Took a couple of pics for you...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/02/129.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/02/130.jpg

Those bolts are temporary, i've got some countersunks on the way.

That is not only genius but a thing of beauty. Top work.

[Tommytank]

Agreed! That's bloody stealth! Liking that a lot!!

[Paul Woods]

Thanks Tommy, a lot of thought went into it, i did think about a centre support like the stock Mk1 spoiler has but the wing is so light it really doesn't need it.

[cabbydave]

If I can find it i've got a sheet of carbon fibre I will send you to cut out and stick over that bracket if it's big enough

[dgh938peg]

Thanks Tommy, a lot of thought went into it, i did think about a centre support like the stock Mk1 spoiler has but the wing is so light it really doesn't need it.

Talking in Rev5 spoiler terms, at high speed my Toyota one wobbles around while the rev5 Carbon one doesn't move at all. So the Noble will will not need a centre support - unless you were going for a tradtional mk1 look that is :)

[loadswine]

That's about the neatest spoiler I've seen. Ace!

[Paul Woods]

Cheers chaps, it's taken a ridiculous amount of time to do!

[nik]

doesnt everything you do?

[Paul Woods]

Yes, and on that note it's Valentines day, i'm off to bed.... i may be some time. :)

[racerADS]

Seen it in the flesh today and it is really going to be a beautiful machine when it's done. The details are very impressive.

[loadswine]

That post reads brilliantly, given Paul's post just before it. Hilarious!

[Goldy]

Yes, and on that note it's Valentines day, i'm off to bed.... i may be some time. :)

Been drinking again I see ;-)

[Paul Woods]

I've done a paintshop mock up of what i plan to do to the rear, i've got Phils old AAS silencer so the plan is to completely cut out a Styleauto rear vented section and have the full arse on display....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/02/233.jpg

[hmmmmm]

Nice! Reminds me of an NSX (which is a good thing!)
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2013/02/234.jpg

[snowtigger]

Very nice arse carry on that man it is starting to look like the dogs danglies .

[Paul Woods]

Well this thread is called "My stock Mk1 going brutal" and it just changed direction with as brutal as it could be, instead of fitting the Rx300 1mz VVti motor i've taken the plunge and gone for the big dog, the 2gr.

I'm sure you'll all wish me well in my endeavour to build the worlds first 2gr Mk1 :)

[snowtigger]

Another worlds first a 2gr in a mk1 it'll never catch on blah blah blah.

[racerADS]

You are a loon...

[Goldy]

Well this thread is called "My stock Mk1 going brutal" and it just changed direction with as brutal as it could be, instead of fitting the Rx300 1mz VVti motor i've taken the plunge and gone for the big dog, the 2gr.

I'm sure you'll all wish me well in my endeavour to build the worlds first 2gr Mk1 :)

Good luck with that, it's not possible though ;-)

The real question is will it be ready for JAE?

[Diesel Meister]

Well, he managed mine in about 3 weeks so he's got no excuses!

[loadswine]

Wow, I thought this was amazing with the 1MZ vvti, with the 2GR, it will be fecking brilliant!! Of course we all know it can't be done!!!!!


I wouldn't take a vast amount of persuading to have that 1mz in my Roadster, if I could afford it.

[Paul Woods]

Definitely done for late spring/early summer, the car is just about to get painted as we speak.

I'm giving serious thought to using my S54 instead of the usual E153 route on the 2gr, my reasons are weight saving on both the gearbox and shafts, and also a slightly better final drive ratio. Blitzo and USPSPRO both used S series transmissions on their Roadster 2gr swaps and i believe both have survived. This is not something i can attempt on a customers conversion and be 100% sure it wasn't going to either break the gearbox or shafts, but on my own car i reckon it's worth a shot, worst case it blows my gearbox apart and i need to go E153.

I already have my S54 built with LSD and extended 5th set too so i think this will be my best route.

[snowtigger]

Another worlds first a mk1 2gr with na trans perhaps the more linear nature of the power delivery rather than the turbos off on nature makes the S trans viable.

Gouky did say about the six speed is not really good for the drag strip, my thoughts are after two years is unless your ragging it every were the na should hold up, why would lotus fit an inferior box to one of there cars if it wasn't going to take the abuse of 345 bhp supercharged engine.

Plus you have the v8 for loony speeds and drag racing.

[Paul Woods]

Not a world first Tiggs, as above both Blitzo and USPSPRO have been using the S series on their 2grs for years.

[snowtigger]

Ok an English worlds first cough a mk1 cough mk1 2gr geddit (sarcasm never seems to come across well on a web page) never mind carry on I can't wait to see the worlds first English 2gr s series transmission then, you may start a trend of mk1 2gr engined cars wanting na trans rather than an e153 setup.


Like you say early days and good luck with the swop, "some people say it can't be done some people say there's a v8, all we know is there's a woods"