Mk1 Mr2 Coupe

[Paul Woods]

A while back OlberJ did a photoshop mock up of a Mk1 but converted to a Coupe, Anth and i are pretty taken with the shape of it, infact we think it looks so much better than an AE86. We are just thrashing this one around at the moment but we are seriously considering building this, the shape just works so well and wouldn't be too difficult for us to pull off.

I already have a spare Mk1 here as a donor, and the plan would be to build it as a wide wheel arched car like the BMW Z3 Coupe.

As a basic concept though we love it, well done to Olie for the design, just goes to show not all cunts are useless :laugh2:

Opinions?

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/03/1.jpg

[boondougal]

Mint... V mint! You could could have some great engine bay open bling going on!

A style auto rear would wrap the end around the arch a little more and look great I think.

Get it made

[mrT]

Chaps not wanting to spoil your fun but it looks a lot like the celica 165



http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=celica+165&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1366&bih=673&tbm=isch&tbnid=GwlIOjQd5UqDZM:&imgrefurl=http://www.acropolisrally.gr/EN/2011/hall_of_fame-2011/best_car-2011/toyota-celica-st-165-2011/&docid=jYBbuwS9O-3oaM&imgurl=http://www.acropolisrally.gr/userfiles/CMSFiles/HallofFameImages/TOYOTA_CELICA.jpg&w=400&h=300&ei=6bVPT733AtCp8QPT5uDwBQ&zoom=1

[loadswine]

I really like that, very much in the mould of the Z3 coupe, but easier on the eye. A lot of work to do that I bet.

[Charged]

No point in beating around the bush, it looks hideous imo.

[GregLeBon]

Looks v. nice, Paul.....:cool:

Maybe a little too Volvo 480...?

But seriously, why waste the time? You can spend it much better by building a 222D replica...which, by the time you've widened the arches and fitted the rear "coupe" bit, wont be that much more work...?

:hidesbehi:

[Paul Woods]

Seems to be a marmite mod, with some loving it and some hating it, i don't know it just seems to work really well to me.

[snowtigger]

Do a 222d mate, or a 4 seater mk1 is what I'm thinking of doing to two scrap shells as then I can have the best of both worlds I'm also thinking d4d turbo diesel or crash damaged Prius I've found for £900 make the mk1 über lite weight.

[cdwood2010]

Let's see a Mk2 version then!!!

C.

[Charged]

Let's see a Mk2 version then!!!

C.

Oh jesus please no!!

[boondougal]

Oh jesus please no!!

Not just Jesus.... any fictional character that is seen as a god figure... simply No!

[snowtigger]

Just noooo on soooo many levels for a mk2

[cdwood2010]

So what's the plan for the exhaust?

C.

[Paul Woods]

Exhaust? That won't change, i'm not with you there matey?

[cdwood2010]

Well the exhaust sits under the boot, which looks like its getting chopped off! Just wondered how you saw the exhaust fitting in with this.

I like the idea of this on a mk2, as it would shed a bit of arse end weight!

C.

[Jiff Lemon]

For a man who is a self confessed hater of most body mods, I really like this;

I think it's got a lot of volvo 480 going on (another car I had a soft spot for until I found it was FWD and didn't follow the true volvo naming convention)

[Paul Woods]

Well the exhaust sits under the boot, which looks like its getting chopped off! Just wondered how you saw the exhaust fitting in with this.

I like the idea of this on a mk2, as it would shed a bit of arse end weight!

C.

Ah, optical illusion, no arse chop going on there, it's just a Mk1 with the roof moved rearward to sit flush with the rear light panel. I think a Mk2 would look truly terrible done like this, it's got to be a Mk1 if any.

[Paul Woods]

For a man who is a self confessed hater of most body mods, I really like this;

I think it's got a lot of volvo 480 going on (another car I had a soft spot for until I found it was FWD and didn't follow the true volvo naming convention)

Agreed, i think that's what i like about it, it definitely splits opinions though.

[GaryA]

Be interesting to see a mk2 coupe the back of mk2 is very weak compared to the front might "cough" transform it how about a trd widebody coupe

[mrT]

If I ever manage to get the space, I'm planning in making a convertible mk2, I know Toyota did them in very few numbers.. theres only few in the uk..

[MRV6]

Not a fan Paula, looks like a mk1 estate. It will be handy for growing tomato plants in though.

[OlberJ]

No idea where the old thread was, might be on the old forum.

Still got the rest of the photoshops though. Sunglasses at the ready!

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/03/1.gif

And the best option :

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/04/3.gif

[snowtigger]

Why not resurrect the mk1 convertible idea ?
They built a couple in the states, get a t top slice the roof of weld in some box section in the sides or even make an s l r take the windscreen off as well and flush it I think that would look awesome.

[adamh]

Very strange Its a bit of everything , not unique enough for me

[OlberJ]

Convertible you say?

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2011/05/248.jpg
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/06/138.jpg

[snowtigger]

That micro idea looks good maybe an idea for a kitcar using a mixture of mk1/2/3 parts, a fibreglass or full carbon bodied mk1 would be awesome no more rust issues.

[racerADS]

Think you are bob on Paul, the proportions just look right, like something they should have come up with in the first place. Mid Engined Hatchback? why the fuck not!

[MRV6]

Could you not make a mk1 ice cream van, at least it will be of some use.

[nik]

I agree its an 80s z3 coupe. Love it sort of. The hardest part Will be the rear quarter glass.
Stop talking and build it.

[Paul Woods]

We thought we could use removeable plexi in those areas for engine access.

Anyone got a Mk1 roof they'd like to donate :) ?

[Goldy]

Why don't you build a topless mk1 and use the roof for the coupe! Job done!

[sketchy]

more like the "pulsar exa" with the big boot, in looks...actually thought about buying one many years back...kinda glad I didnt.

but the v8 coupe, deffinatly seems the winner.

id be carful with the b pillar, would not wanna make it pillarless, as the car may fold without being tied to the roof, unless your putting some formed up tubes inside the roof line, "A pillar" to rear strut at least. but Im sure if Im not crazy enough to build it, paul will make a good job of it:)

[Jiff Lemon]

I agree its an 80s z3 coupe. Love it sort of. The hardest part Will be the rear quarter glass.
Stop talking and build it.

Nonsense! Polycarbonate quarters - Job done. :cool:

[nik]

Not a fan of plastic windows. I think they look cheap, glass ftw.

[Paul Woods]

Well this has moved a step further, i've found a complete roof section that will be coming to me in a few months time once the current owner has finished breaking the car, so i really am going to have a crack at this.

[Paul Woods]

After a little paintshop i've come up with this, is Ollie convinced yet? :)

I think this looks the tits.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/03/28.jpg

[MRV6]

Well this has moved a step further, i've found a complete roof section that will be coming to me in a few months time once the current owner has finished breaking the car, so i really am going to have a crack at this.

Get the bloody v8 finished first.

[MRV6]

After a little paintshop i've come up with this, is Ollie convinced yet? :)

I think this looks the tits.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/03/28.jpg

That doesn't look too bad mate. Starting to grow on me.

[Paul Woods]

I knew you'd come around, you'll be buying a Mk1 next.

More Paintshop... wish i'd more skill.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/03/29.jpg

[MRV6]

Give your fookin heed a shake.

[Paul Woods]

Well i would but then all the mad ideas would have nowhere to live.

[snowtigger]

im sorry i just dont get it why make an estate version?

its just not floating my boat front engined rear drive v8 or 2jz drift mobile maybe but its a mk1 why ruin perfection, ive thought of making a bodykit to make a mk3 look like a mk1 what do you think?

[MRV6]

Variety is the spice of life mate and it's good that new ideas keep coming through or else we would all drive the same cars, live in the same houses but NOT support the same team. Keep ideas coming but get the bloody v8 finished first.

[Paul Woods]

It's not an estate, it's a coupe.

I don't expect everyone to get it, but I love it.

[boondougal]

Unique... I think it would look great.

[sketchy]

forget they nay sayers paul...

just do it:)

though finish the projects you already have(the V8),like I need to finish that sw20 limo...

[MRV6]

It's not an estate, it's a coupe.

I don't expect everyone to get it, but I love it.

Can you photoshop me an estate version so I can tell the difference and I don't mean a car parked in front of something Lancelot "Capability" Brown designed.

[snowtigger]

dont get me wrong i like it but just dont get it, we want the v8 and red v6 vvti sorted first plus finish of that bloody t sport, before you hack up another mk1.

can any body photo shop the boot of a mk1 in other words shorten the rear end then fit the roof like paul wants.

[OlberJ]

It's not an estate, it's a coupe.

I don't expect everyone to get it, but I love it.

It's no a fricken coupe. The standard non t-bar is a coupe. That's a hatch back or a shooting brake.


What you gonna do about cooling? I know the Clio V6 gets away with the top being closed in completely but do they have side fans or something?

[Paul Woods]

It's what i call a coupe or a hatchback, an estate is big enough for a coffin.... Mk1 hearse anyone?

Good call on the airflow Olie, i will have made a parachute doing this, so i'll need to design in an air exit path somewhere.

[nik]

i think it looks tha bollox fella!! love it!! you could factor in a 'parcel shelf' above the engine to make it a little more practical than a mk1 too..!

[Paul Woods]

Good idea, there's a few issues to iron out doing this, but we're definately going to have a crack at it.

[Goldy]

Good idea, there's a few issues to iron out doing this, but we're definately going to have a crack at it.

:SmackBottom: V8!

[cdwood2010]

No no, build another rocket powered scooter.

No, put a V6 in a fiat 500.

:)

[Goldy]

No no, build another rocket powered scooter.

No, put a V6 in a fiat 500.

:)

DIY V6 powered space shuttle anyone? Moonwoods.com

[sketchy]

parcel shelf?...NAH, its the warming draw for pizza deliveries....

Ill get me coat...

Im thinking it wont be as straight forward as we think, and Id probably go shopping for a T-top as a base to start with(if its got anything in common with the sw20 with having extra verticle sections in the sills,and and extra layer in the a pillar)

Id then take the skin off the roof and weld in a regular hard top with the top of the doors over the targa bracing.run a bar from the top of the b down to the strut tower before cutting the base of the c pillar...maybe Im just thinking through somebody else's project to much...lol

feel free to ask Paul, I may have a different solution to bodywork issues before you get to them, usually I stand and look at the car with a pen and paper, or draw on it with vivid when I try to figure things out....then weeks later Ill actually do the cutting and tacking...after Ive had a chance to run through the possible downsides. unless you have a big supply of cars to trash if you stuff up...lol

[Paul Woods]

Some good shit there Sketchy, i agree with you, not quite as simple as chop chop weld! I think if i cut the C pillars out then i definately need to put a bar back in there running back up to the roof top, possibly a full cage just to be on the safe side. That way the rest of it can be a cosmetic add-on without affecting the structural rigidity..... i don't fancy cutting a Mk1 up and it folds in half.... catastrofuck!

[sketchy]

a full cage may be over the top. if you do the targa trick, as the top of the doors from a full hard top will add more strength to the door frame if your careful how you check it into the door;), its not a hi stress/heavy car, and if you keep it 4age, or 4agze I dont think youd need to go nuts with the pipe work anyway. a v6 or a v8 and Id say make it stupid....


and if you go full cage it starts to become an access issue, besides it would be more fun having people come up and scratch their heads trying to figure out how, and what you have actually done

[Paul Woods]

besides it would be more fun having people come up and scratch their heads trying to figure out how, and what you have actually done

With your car they would literally keel over! :)

[cdwood2010]

I prefer my version......

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm247/shitboxracing/IMG_1598.jpg

[snowtigger]

Bar that just looks fugly you haven't done the roof.

[nik]

I prefer my version......

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

pmsl..cool

[PERCULIS]

Just buy a volvo 480 http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/03/74.jpg

Looks almost identical to me.
+1 for finishing the V8
+1 for a 222D replica

:icon_wink:

[Paul Woods]

I prefer my version......

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

Sweet lord that's ugly, but kinda cool!

[cdwood2010]

Build one then.

It's not like you're in any danger of finishing that V8 myth.

:)

[Paul Woods]

Nooo, i'm a Mk1 whore, can't be doing with them Ford Probes.

[sketchy]

the only use I can see for cutting off the back end of an SW, is either to make it into a BBQ. or when making the "2-bucket"tm....

I might have to finish the photoshop stuff for that one.....

[cdwood2010]

Go for it!

:)

[bazyl]

Great idea Paul! It reminds me of my old Honda that I had in the past.

2079

2080

Mk1 Aerodeck would be much more...muscular ;)

Ave!

[Paul Woods]

A variation of the theme...

2139

[nik]

ooh get you and your fancy CGI!!

[Paul Woods]

Spielbergs shitting himself.

[Tommytank]

Looks like this:

http://www47.tok2.com/home/clearblue2/3dcg/bricklin/BRICKLIN_03.jpg

Inspector Gadget will be along to serve copyright infringement notice soon enough...

[sturobturbo]

After a little paintshop i've come up with this, is Ollie convinced yet? :)

I think this looks the tits.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2012/03/28.jpg

that looks fucking awesome!!