Tim's 1.5 swap

[Paul Woods]

It's been a while since we built one of these but they are still a firm favourite among Mr2 engine swappers.This one is getting a chargecooler set up too.

Work started by dropping the old engine out and also the fuel tank to replace the pump for a turbo item.... it was then we discovered a mouse nest on top of the tank :)

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/04/193.jpg

Sadly we had to evict him!

The bay has since had its engine mounts removed, new ones welded in and the whole bay resprayed...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/04/194.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/04/195.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/04/196.jpg

The extra heatshield has also been made and ECU,coilpack and injector resistor pack mounted.The engine goes in on monday which looks like this....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/04/197.jpg

More to come.

[Tim Higgott]

:jump::jump::jump:

Holly shit it is finally happening.

An egine conversion has been planned for nearly a year now with me changing my mind on what to go for. A V6 turbo was planned but my buget changed and i have finally decided on a 2L turbo.
I am so excited i dont know what to say as this car means alot to me. It was given to me by my friends mum and dad, as he died in a go karting crash.

The car is called "The Goatley Project" after my mate "The Goat".

Anyway, want to give a big thanks to Paul for putting up with me and all my questions. The engine looks the tits great colours. Progress is going really quick, cant believe how much you guys have done.:thumbsup:

Thanks again Paul. Oh i wondered what that squeek was coming from the car LOL.

[biteme]

Tim, that thing will massively fly!!

A chargecooled rev 3 is the Holy Grail of the stock engines. If you up that boost to 16psi, you'll be seeing around 275bhp (conservatively, I'd say). With virtually no lag.

I'd not fancy a race against you mate :thumbsup:

[Bev]

A2W?! Very, very nice looking motor! What's that 3S outa? Caldina or something?

Bevan

[biteme]

Either be a Rev 3/4/5 MR2 Turbo with an Celica GTFour CC on it, or from and ST205 Celica :)

[Tim Higgott]

Yeah its out of a rev3 import with about 50,000 miles on it. Took your advice about the charge cooler Johnny, thats off a gt4.

Not sure what other mods are going on the engine. Looking for about 280bhp.

Suspension, brakes and poly bush going on. Any other suggestions will be great, if my budget can strech.

[GregHoon]

Maybe look at what murf managed with water injection. Keep the engine lasting longer? Plus it's an extra gadget to show off!

[Murf]

I got a proper water injection tank now,binned the tupperware! Pics when i get it fitted! WI is a good mod, safegaurd the engine and increase power.
I dont think you'll need more power mods, other than an AVCR. It'll be plenty quick, in fact the first time you drive it hard, you'll shit yourself!!
Get some decent tyres though and maybe a really supportive drivers seat :)

[biteme]

AVCR's are good, but expensive.

Tim, if you can stretch to it, get on the phone to Ryan @ 2BarTuning about an ECU with boost control. He'll map in 1.3bar for you and you'll be changing trousers with great regularity.

[rattymr2]

Even when you get it back on stock boost it'll be quick.

Please take it easy and get to know the car before really giving it some, especially as it has rather more sentimental value to you than most peoples have. would hate to read you crashed it on the way home.

are you getting the rear brakes done as well. Also, consider a Papal vent in the bonnet to calm the front down and a rev 2 onward rear ARB. Apart from that you seem to have the chassis side sorted.

[Charged]

Nice one Tim, glad to see Mr Woods cracking on with this one!

Ps, I echo was Ratty says.. 1.5's are very fast and need to be treated with respect.. get used to it slowly.. dont take it out on wet roads!

[Tim Higgott]

Cheer guy's.

Yeah not sure what performance to expect really. Had an Evo V111 MR320, lots of fast bikes R1, blades and stuff.
Can't remember what i said to Paul about rear brakes but think something is being done.
Not sure if the budget will strech to ECU with boost controller, having manual boost controller stuck on for now. I'm sure looking at threads before most people say to run the ct20 at about 14psi 1.05 bar and it will run all day, anything more and the life will shorten. Any thoughts?

People who don't know me i will tell you in advance, i don't know alot about cars so be gentle with me.

[biteme]

I think you can go to 16psi with the ST205CC fitted.

With mine, I had a Water Injection system mapped in as well and ran 19psi, it FLEW!

[snowtigger]

Right into a huge rebuild and and a v6 swap hey johnny.

[biteme]

Nahh.... keep the intake temps down (WI really helps) and you're fine.

[Tim Higgott]

So whats the difference between a charge cooler and Water injection?

What bit cools down what?

How much approx is WI?

[biteme]

A chargecooler is an intercooler, just a different type of one.

Water injection is a method of cooling the intake by injecting water (or a mixture of water and methanol) into the throttle body and allowing it to cool the intake down.

If you have water injection set up correctly and then a good chargecooler (like the ST205 is) then your intakes will be very good indeed.

[rattymr2]

how often do you need to fill the water tank up (and of course how big was the tank)

[Tim Higgott]

Well i've heard of spending a penny but how much does a WI cost. LOL

Only approx so i have an idea or what bits would i need.

[biteme]

how often do you need to fill the water tank up (and of course how big was the tank)

It was a 12 litre tank I had (huge!) - and I didn't have to fill it up that often, as it only came in when:

Boost > 14psi
Revs > 4000rpm
Throttle > 90%

i.e. when the engine is under maximum load.

[biteme]

Well i've heard of spending a penny but how much does a WI cost. LOL

Only approx so i have an idea or what bits would i need.

It's a couple of hundred notes mate. I've got a custom one that Paul Port made - but I know GTech on here (Graeme) has a Devils Own kit. I think its this
http://www.alcohol-injection.com/water-injection-kits-1/universal-19/universal-stage-2-12.html?osCsid=75dd446033aad6185da40facbe53f781

[Tim Higgott]

So could i have that on standard ecu and increase boost to 16-17psi.

[biteme]

Yes mate.

But as Ratty says, get to know the car first - as this is much more than just a car to you.

[GregHoon]

At just 12 psi your heart will be in your mouth every time you boost for the first few weeks. Not to whet your appetite too much :rolleyes:.

Maybe think about fitting these things as you get used to the car. Avoid an immediate massive outlay and increase the boost as you get used to it. The shift up from 1st to 2nd even at 12psi will never get old and never seem slow. The WI and 15+psi are going to pay off from 3rd gear upwards :) when you're used to it. There's no rush is there. Johnny knows his stuff, i'd take his reccomendations.

And like ratty and johnny said you will want to get used to the car and keep it in one piece as it means a lot to you. I promise you there will be a time when the back kicks out when you least expect it and you want your reactions to be lightening quick when it does. I have had that many many times lol. The car can handle the power but simply it being tso powerful and rear wheel drive you will be suprised what it can do.

I envy you having your first drive in one ahead of you. Like murf says. You will shit yourself :boogie:

[biteme]

Cheers Greg! lol

One more thing, if you were using the stock SW20 Intercooler, you'd not get full boost in 1st and possibly only full in 2nd on cool days. However, with the ST205, you'll get full boost in 1st and 2nd.

Tubby with ST205 has less lag than a stock intercooler, so you're in for all sorts of good things!

The first time you do boost it, make sure you know the road, it's clean and straight! lol

[GregHoon]

The first time you do boost it, make sure you know the road, it's clean and straight! lol

Or the road won't be the only thing with skidmarks. I thank you!

[biteme]

Or the road won't be the only thing with skidmarks. I thank you!

That brings me on to another thing! Tyres!! Have some quality rubber on there mate.

[OlberJ]

Yokohamas on there at the minute methinks.

[GregHoon]

2x toyo 205/50/15 RT1 £98 delivered. An onlline store of which the name escapes me at the moment. Can handle full boost with no slip. Have an idea that olber is the man to ask about this. Can remember him advising someone else on tyre choice. Still less than £50 a corner and it handles the power (in the dry - wet and all bets are off in a mk1.5) can't argue with that.

[Tim Higgott]

Thats cool as my nan gave me new pants for christmas :naughty:

So thats settled, we have no Wi and set at 14psi. Upgrade later.

I have been chilled about waiting for this engine and now you guy's have got me all wet :icon_eek:

[Tim Higgott]

Have some quality rubber on there mate.[/QUOTE]

Durex!

Sorry i'm sure thats been done before Johnny.

[Tim Higgott]

17" wheels on there 205/45/17 cant remember the make but are not very grippy. Not sure what size J they are but think i can get 215/45/17.

Is it worth trying to get 225/45/17 on the rear and either the same or 205 or 195/45/17 on the front.

[biteme]

You'd need 225/40, if there's 215/45 on there now mate.

[Tim Higgott]

defo 205's on there at the mo johnny. Not sure if 225's will fit the wheel. What do you think of the smaller tires on the front?

[biteme]

I'm not up on the Mk1 sizes mate.

But if you've got quality rubber on there (not your durex lol) then you're already in decent shape.

[OlberJ]

99% sure you've got yokohamas on there Tim.

On a Mk1 i like having the same width tyre all round. It's a more square wheelbase than the Mk2 and suits it rather than having to over tyre the rear to balance the car out.

[Tim Higgott]

Cheers Olber.

[Murf]

Olie knows feck all about tyres, you should have seen his wheel tyre combo at Knockhill track day ;)

[OlberJ]

Aye, hence why i wanted to find out more.

205 is the minimum width you want really aswell.

[Paul Woods]

Engine now in, front and rear torque mounts made and starting to connect stuff up now... i do like the way these turbo motors sit in a mk1 bay.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/04/242.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/04/243.jpg

[OlberJ]

Am loving the red and black look, like Nik's Mk1.6.

This is gonna be a bit special when it's done Tim. Take good care of it :thumbsup:

[Tim Higgott]

Lovin the colours, great choice from me and well put together by you. Great work guy's. Can't wait to see what happens when i press the loud pedal :icon_eek:.

[biteme]

When you press the loud pedal in a chargecooled rev 3 mk1, your body's own VSV opens up. :)

[OlberJ]

I like that analogy.

Geeky as fuck, but i like it.

[Paul Woods]

LOL the new quote of the month

[snowtigger]

And dumps a shit load of torque straight through your underpants.

[adamh]

looking good guv, nice to see a turbo w.i.p

[OlberJ]

Aye they're getting a bit thin on the ground are the 1.5's.

[robwsurf]

unlike those common as muck 1.6 v6 rubbish ! lol kidding

[OlberJ]

Hehe, the mk1.6's are catching up but we've got a way to go yet lol

[Tim Higgott]

Hi Guy's and Girls.

Sorry i cant seem to start new threads so will just carry on with this.

Need some help. As you can see, Woodsport are doing a great job on my car and i cant wait to get her back but we could have a small problem. BRAKES!:eek2:

ST165 and st205's are a bit thin on the ground so i will start off with does anyone know where i can get some, If not what are the options. Do i put stock ones back and hold off till a set come about or do i look at a set of wilwood brake upgrades or alike?. What would be better? budget could go to £600-£700 quid. Didnt really want to spend that as was gonna get custom pipe made but may have to wait.

Opinions please and thanks.

[biteme]

ST185's are a good alternative too, ST205's are the holy grail though...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOYOTA-CELICA-st-205-st205-front-brake-calipers-4-pot_W0QQitemZ260404792862QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Car sParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item260404792862&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50

You're welcome :P

[Gary Symons]

Or you could wait for me to finalise my for sale post :whistle::)

[biteme]

lmao, nicely done sir. Nicely done! :thumbsup:

[Tim Higgott]

Grsymons tell me more.

Also just sent Keri wms a line to see when these kits are in stock.

Thanks Johnny but i've been told these are a no go by Mr Woods.

[biteme]

Grsymons tell me more.

Also just sent Keri wms a line to see when these kits are in stock.

Thanks Johnny but i've been told these are a no go by Mr Woods.

Fair doos, I'd drop Gary a message then mate :)

[Gary Symons]

Grsymons tell me more.



pm'ed you my work in progress for sale list :thumbsup:

[Paul Woods]

Engine now running, just waiting for some WMS brakes to be delivered and we can finally drive her!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJtC4EHgNro

[biteme]

Engine now running, just waiting for some WMS brakes to be delivered and we can finally drive her!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJtC4EHgNro

Tim, that thing will be quicker than Pavarotti after a custard slice.

[Tim Higgott]

I think it was you Johnny that said " I'm so excited, i've just shit a kidney"

I now know how that feels.

Can't wait :boogie:

[biteme]

I think it was you Johnny that said " I'm so excited, i've just shit a kidney"

I now know how that feels.

Can't wait :boogie:

Sounds like something I'd say lol

[Paul Woods]

Quick update pics for Tim, here are the WMS brakes fitted... lovely bit of kit.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/05/297.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/05/298.jpg

And Tim's wideband and boost gauges....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/05/299.jpg

[GregHoon]

That's a gooood looking brake caliper and we know these are the dogs for the mk1 too :) Quite liking the alloys as well it has to be said.

That cockpit is coming along nicely. Nothing better than a load of dials that you'll be shitting yourself too much to look at haha. Thought about a short-shifter Tim?

[Tim Higgott]

Looking good :cool:.

Should be having the wheels painted black.

Not had any thoughts on a short shift and dont think my wallet will stretch at the mo. have some other things to buy.

Collection should be late next week but waiting on a part to arrive.

[Gary Symons]

Should be having the wheels painted black.


Do a photoshop first, I think they would look better as they are personally



Collection should be late next week but waiting on a part to arrive.

Spare underwear? lol

[biteme]

Wow those WMS brakes should stop you like a pigeon going into a patio window!!

They look great! :thumbsup:

[Tim Higgott]

Wow those WMS brakes should stop you like a pigeon going into a patio window!!


rotflmao Do you have a book or something. Funny as F***


New pants are on the way Gary:thumbsup: not white ones though :P

[OlberJ]

I'll take a pic and photoshop you some black wheels 2moro if you like Tim?

Personally, i reckon the black would look brilliant (just don't tell Verne :shhh: )

[snowtigger]

I like em bronze or White maybe gun metal gay.

[Tim Higgott]

That would be great Olberj.

I think i said to my paint guy can i have them done in anthrax! :idea:

I think you know what i mean :freak3:

[OlberJ]

Anthrashite it is then lol

[Paul Woods]

Anthisshite

[OlberJ]

lol

Ladies and gentleman, we have a winner.

[OlberJ]

Anthisshite:
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/05/300.jpg

Gloss Black:
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/05/301.jpg

Defo gloss black for me. :thumbsup:

[snowtigger]

Anthishite for me may be gun metal olber do em in gold mate or that funky luminos green cheers.

[Tim Higgott]

I've come in my pants :icon_eek:

Thats brilliant, thanks so much Olie.

Defo anthrashite. I sltll dno't konw haw ils spelt! :doh:

[OlberJ]

It's easy, break it down into sections.

Anth

Is

Shite


See if you can learn it for when you come to pick the car up chief lol

[Tim Higgott]

Just booked my train tickets for thursday the 4th june. Its collection time

:driving:

[Tim Higgott]

Well today started off early, 4 o'clock rise to get the 5:30 train from Dartford. Journey was very good with no delays and i phoned for my taxi (woodsport) when changing trains at Darlington.
What can i say about the service i have received from Woodsport apart from excellent.
Paul was waiting in his car for me and Lisa. I started to get a little nervous as we approached Woodsport. The realization of seeing The Goatley Project with a beast of an engine was sinking in.
As we pulled up she stood in all her glory, i could of dropped my trousers right there. She had been cleaned and looked better than Amanda holden's breasts in that red dress (or was that just me).:wierd2:
Then the bonnet was opened :praise2: I can't thank Olie, Anth and Paul enough. :clap:
The 4 and half hour journey home awaited so we said our goodbyes and left.
Paul told me to take it easy on the way home and give it some beans nearer home.
Running standard boost at the mo which is about 0.3bar which on a rev 3 is about 240 bhp.
It cruises along the motor way at what ever speed you fancy. If you are going along at 50-60 in 5th and put your foot down it happily goes over 3 figures on a closed road:angel:
Acceleration is quick, not sure what the 0-60 times are but i could hear the starship enterprise phrase in my head "We need more power captain".
I'm popping up to Matt at AFR Tuning next thursday so we will see what we can do.
I've also had the kws brakes but cant say much about them yet as i havent really used them, will keep you all updated.
The koni suspension and poly bushing make a massive difference. The car really does handle fantastic.

Anyway signing off for the mo as i'm knacked!

Thanks again to all at Woodsport :thumbsup:

[OlberJ]

Glad you're chuffed with it chief. :thumbsup:

[Gary Symons]

I look forward to see it at the pod :boogie:

[Charged]

Nice one Tim! Good luck with it...

[Photoshoot]

Well done guys, sounds like a fantastic job all round. I'm sure ur like a big kid at the mo Tim... So she's only running 0.3bar what's that like 5psi?? What do u think it will make at 1bar?

Again - Look forward to seeing it at the Pod....

[Charged]

Must be running more boost than that as standard!

[biteme]

I think it's usually 0.7bar isn't it for the Rev 3?

[robwsurf]

thought rev 1 and 2 s were10psi standard and rev 3+ were 12psi could be wrong though

[biteme]

Ahh yea, that's it, Rob.

0.68bar for Rev 1/2
0.83bar for Rev 3/4/5

[Tim Higgott]

I was trying to keep my eyes on the road while lisa was watching the boost gauge. Spoke to Paul today and he said it should make 0.7 bar on a third gear pull, apparently wont make full boost in first and second, which i think is what we were looking at. Anyway, please sir can i have some more boost :hehe:.
So who out there has a rev 3 who can tell me the best way to get around the fcd when upping boost. Now as i have said before i dont know alot about cars so i hope i get this right. Paul tried the fcd that he normally runs on the rev1 and 2, however on the rev 3 it runs like shit. Its something to do with the ecu. Now i know i havent explained it that well but do you understand.

[biteme]

The fuel cut on the Rev 3+ shouldn't come in until 19psi - and you don't want to run that much on a CT20b turbo.

Just get a boost controller and go up to 16-17 psi

[antnkel]

1.2 bar would be the absolutely most you would want to run without blowing the turbo up:blowup:

[biteme]

I used to run 1.25bar on my CC'd rev 3 - was fine :)

Clutch never liked me much though lol

[antnkel]

I think the general rule of thumb is 1.2bar

[Tim Higgott]

Thanks for the response guy's. Will be getting a boost controller and wacking the boost till the nuts pop out the engine :freak3:.

Its so funny the need for speed, will have to get life insurance rotflmao.

Have it bitch!

:fab:

[snowtigger]

you must have the prodigy playing on the radio going up the strip dude smack my bitch up.

[Tim Higgott]

Will dig that one out, just hope it dont turn into fire starter.

Just been out for a run with my mate so he could keep an eye on the gauge. 1st and 2nd making 0.5 bar and 3rd between 0.65-0.7 if splitting hairs. So sounds about normal. I must say that when you get into third it really does go.

Brakes are beding in well and getting better and better.

[OlberJ]

You still getting another exhaust on there Tim?

[biteme]

1st and 2nd making 0.5 bar and 3rd between 0.65-0.7

There's two things, your boost gauge won't be 100% accurate, but won't be far off. Also, the location of the sensor for the boost will affect the reading, so I'd be perfectly happy with that one dude.

My AVCR and boost gauge used to be about 0.1bar apart, with the gauge under reading.

As for the boost controller, my advice would be to get a good electronic one. Blitz make a stunning one which looks really cool. The AVCR is good, but can be a pain to set up.

I had the AVCR, but given the choice now, I'd take the Blitz. Dial in 1.2bar and enjoy :thumbsup:

[Adam W]

Yeah, simpler is usually better with boost controllers! I used to have a Blitz DSBC which was 1/4din sized and dead easy to use, I think they stopped making it but if you could find a s/h one that would be my recommendation.

[ukpaisley]

GReddy Prolific B is great and simple to use, or if you need i have a Type A here in black for £50

[Tim Higgott]

You still getting another exhaust on there Tim?

Hope so, its all depends on cash.


There's two things, your boost gauge won't be 100% accurate, but won't be far off. Also, the location of the sensor for the boost will affect the reading, so I'd be perfectly happy with that one dude.

My AVCR and boost gauge used to be about 0.1bar apart, with the gauge under reading.

As for the boost controller, my advice would be to get a good electronic one. Blitz make a stunning one which looks really cool. The AVCR is good, but can be a pain to set up.

I had the AVCR, but given the choice now, I'd take the Blitz. Dial in 1.2bar and enjoy :thumbsup:

Whats the model of the blitz one Johnny and does it come in black? Was looking at the AVCR 8.


GReddy Prolific B is great and simple to use, or if you need i have a Type A here in black for £50

Any pics?

Thanks all for the feedback:thumbsup:

[biteme]

Whats the model of the blitz one Johnny and does it come in black? Was looking at the AVCR 8.

I can't think off the top of my head, but if you're going to AFR, I'd speak to Matt and ask him as he rates it highly also :thumbsup:

The AVCR does look great though.

[Tim Higgott]

Just a quick update.

Just come back from afr and it good or bad news depending how you look at it. Power is defo down on my car. Didnt get it on the dyno but Matt took it out and said its defo down. He estimates 180-190 bhp as a bum on seat test. There is another mk1 there and he said it is much quicker and thats been on the dyno at 240bhp. For me this was really good news, i have so much more to come.
Need a different exhaust and some other tweeks but the only bad news is i cant get it done by Jap show.
Anyway no rush as i want to get the tuning done properly and it will be good to see the difference once its done.

Also had a lot more time to give it some good drives and the report on the handling is fantastic. The konis and polybushing have transformed the car. Brakes are now working great, still not given them a really good test.

Got my first power slide coming out of a corner:hehe:

[antnkel]

It's not good news if it's down 50 bhp something really wrong there.

[Tim Higgott]

Don't want to guess at the mo. When it goes in he will check it out. As i've said before i dont know alot about cars but it seemed quick but not that quick. In Matt's experience he said it was slow for a car that should be 240bhp. The figure he quoted off the top of his head after driving was 180-190bhp, this was from him driving previous cars. I'm really not that worried as it will all get sorted. I know how many niggles cars can give and being a second hand lump you never know what your gonna get. Once its set up i'll be burning rubber.
I watched top gear awhile ago and remember them havin some renault thing they were trying to get round the track. From memory the car was 40bhp down on what it should of been from the factory. so with this in mind and an N/A exhaust pipe on a turbo engine restricting it, I can't wait for another couple of weeks to get this in.

[biteme]

It'll get sorted mate!

What exhaust are you running?

[snowtigger]

You could always put it on the mobile rolling road they some times have at the pod they won't fix it but could give you a ruff estimate of bhp.

[biteme]

I think it's one of two things.

1. Either the distinct lack of lag on the CC is making feel slower than it is. But in actual fact, they're quick...or

2. The N/A exhaust is restricting the tits off it. If it IS an N/A exhaust on it, do not up the boost until you've changed it.

[Tim Higgott]

Its a Lotus elise exhaust and its all going to be done together johnny. Electronic boost controller (Gizmo) set for 1.2 bar, Custom exhaust, set up and dyno.
The pipe it very restrictive at the mo but as i said to Paul i wasnt to bothered about it as i knew i'd get a custom one. Paul put something together for me to get me sorted for a couple of months.
Woodsport have done a fantastic job on all of the install. I had told Paul that when it left Woodsport it was going to Matt at AFR Tuning, so this is stage 2.

Snowtigger thats a great idea, if its there i'll get it put on to see the difference later.

[biteme]

Its a Lotus elise exhaust and its all going to be done together johnny. Electronic boost controller (Gizmo) set for 1.2 bar, Custom exhaust, set up and dyno.
The pipe it very restrictive at the mo but as i said to Paul i wasnt to bothered about it as i knew i'd get a custom one. Paul put something together for me to get me sorted for a couple of months.
Woodsport have done a fantastic job on all of the install. I had told Paul that when it left Woodsport it was going to Matt at AFR Tuning, so this is stage 2.

Snowtigger thats a great idea, if its there i'll get it put on to see the difference later.

Yea, the exhaust wil be the restriction, no doubt.

Woodsport always do a top job :)

I'd get some new strides then mate. You'll need them.

[Paul Woods]

Tim that temporary exhaust will be strangling the tits off that engine in my opinion mate.

[snowtigger]

you could always get a cheap second hand turbo exhaust or even a single rear box or if any one has a spare you could borrow for a few weeks.

[biteme]

Blueflame for £100

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/mr2-turbo-blueflame-exhaust_W0QQitemZ320381674239QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK _CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item4a983c62f f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1689%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

RSR for £50
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RSR-EXHAUST-SYSTEM-EXMAG-2-FOR-MR2-TURBO_W0QQitemZ150350860028QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_C arsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item23019c0efc&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1689%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

[snowtigger]

fook me govener that was quick.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Blitz-Nur-Spec-R-exhaust-for-MR2-Turbo-Including-bung_W0QQitemZ180367315381QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ca rsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item29febad1b5&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1689%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

[Tim Higgott]

Thanks for the responce guy's. Will leave as is at the mo and leave it to the professionals and i dont mean Bodie and Doyle.lol
:woc:
Could just get one of these and get rid of the silencer.rotflmao

[Tim Higgott]

Ok guy's and girls latest update.

Custom made exhaust (when i get time i will take pictures) and a gizzmo boost controller fitted, all done at AFR Tuning.

As you know it was running at 185BHP before any mods and we knew the exhaust was one of the main problems. Well back on the dyno with the boost set as standard 0.7 bar and exhaust fitted we see a healthy improvment to 220BHP:jump:.
No FCD fitted so boost cannot go to 17psi at the mo so Matt ran the car until it cut. 11.31PSI or 78KPA. Car made 251BHP on a very hot day with intake air temp at 42 degC.:jump:
Took the car out for a run and all seemed ok but now it has started to cool down the car cuts so i have reduced boost to 9.42psi or 65KPA. Not fussed about having to turn the boost down as FCD will be fitted next thursday and will be running 18psi:eek2:.
HAPPY DAYS.

A big thanks to Matt for all the advice and service.

Big thanks to Ollie for sorting my insurance out so quickly today.

Will update again soon.

Cheers

[Gary Symons]

Great news, I guess we will be seeing you at japshow finale then?

[biteme]

Great news, I guess we will be seeing you at japshow finale then?

At least the back of him I'm thinking!!

I'd not be surprised if The Goatley Project was in the 300's by then knowing the way that Tim's got the bug.

[Tim Higgott]

Oh Yeah. Have a few more plans to get more out of it.

Not fussed on figures anymore i've learnt that on hot and cold days dyno's run different. Bum on seat, pinned back in chair works best.:thumbsup:

Going to be working very hard on air intake. Cold air in hot air out. You could'nt even touch the air filter it was so hot under the hood.

Need more boost!

[biteme]

After a good, fast run, how is the CC to touch, you should be able to leave your hand on it.

Is your name down for one of Woodsport's engine lids? That'll help expel a lot of hot air. Paul's having one fitted to his head, and I'm having one on my arse.

MRV6 is debating ...

[Tim Higgott]

It is but i phoned him today to be taken off, gonna work on something myself as i like to be different.:gay:

[Rowdan]

No FCD fitted so boost cannot go to 17psi at the mo so Matt ran the car until it cut. 11.31PSI or 78KPA. Car made 251BHP on a very hot day with intake air temp at 42 degC.:jump:

Fantastic news mate, you'll be kicking some serious ass on your next trip to the Pod. :thumbsup:

[biteme]

Fantastic news mate, you'll be kicking some serious ass on your next trip to the Pod. :thumbsup:

I'm not looking forward to lining up against him!

[snowtigger]

Should be fun in the 2gr as I want to prove to any doubters how good a woodsport conversion is.

And by the way you have one of the nicest red mk1.5s around.

[Tim Higgott]

And by the way you have one of the nicest red mk1.5s around.

Thanks that really means alot to me. 6.5hours of hard t-cut and polish went into the car before japshow and i'm still not happy.:shrug:.
Bonnet needs paint but it will all come to ge th er.:mrgreen:

[Tim Higgott]

I'm not looking forward to lining up against him!


Looking forward to kicking some :moon:

[biteme]

Looking forward to kicking some :moon:

You'll have to tell me how my car looks from the back.

Polish that bonnet some more and I'll tell you how it looks from a distance ;)

/trash talk

[Tim Higgott]

You'll have to tell me how my car looks from the back.

Polish that bonnet some more and I'll tell you how it looks from a distance ;)

/trash talk

I will lay the smack down on your butt, take you off road and bust your springs.

:shrug:

[biteme]

I will lay the smack down on your butt

I'm gonna take your car, dust it off, turn it sideways, and stick it straight up your candy ass!




take you off road and bust your springs.
My arse will do that :)

[Tim Higgott]

rotflmao


something about wooop arse and a can.:tease:

[chriss]

Nice one, thats good news Tim. Paul has me booked in for full body resto early next year so engine mods on hold for me im afraid

[Diesel Meister]

I'm gonna take your car, shine that sum b*tch up real nice, turn it sideways, and stick it straight up your candy ass!





Fixed :cool:

After which, the peoples champ will nonchalantly be checking you in the Hotel Smackdown, (found on Jabroni Drive, just off Know Your Role Boulevard).

Rock Bottom -> Rock Bottom -> Peoples Elbow -> Good Night!

Can ya smeeeeeelelelelelelelel!(etc.)

lol

[snowtigger]

sorry but stone cold steve austin beats you cause he say so 316 tombstone stunner it's all over open that can of beer and whoop some ass.

[biteme]

And that's the bottom line, because Snowtigger said so! :thumbsup:

[Tim Higgott]

Well it dosen't rain it's pissing down.:help:. Well i had a small oil leak from my sump which is what you get with second hand engines, no real biggie. Ordered a new sump from toyota (£130 trade)which was a little different to mine, it had a slot for an oil level sensor which mine didnt have. Again no big problem, a quick call to Paul asking for an old sensor that i wasnt bothered about working just to fill a hole and i recieved it a couple of days later:thumbsup:
So Sunday just gone i decided that i would fit it. Fitting went well and i was really proud of myself until i checked after about 10 minutes running. Very small leak coming from around the sensor area. Well again no real biggie but i had run out of time as i was doing it at work. On monday i asked one of my guys at work just to re-seal the sensor. Well My mate came in and said "Tim you have done nothing wrong, it coming out of the mounting bracket round the sensor, it's not welded properly". Again no big problem he took it off, welded it up and problem sorted, no leaking oil now:thumbsup:.

Part two in a min, i'm at work.

[snowtigger]

Cmon I'm gasping here for part 2 am also at work having a cuppa and posting from my iPhone while the boss is taking to a customer.

[Tim Higgott]

Part 2.

Well, while we were looking for oil around the sump we noticed a small leak at the front of the car. Under further inspection the leak is coming from one of the small ridged hard line pipes which go behind the steering rack up to the heater matrix. Also the pipes running the length of the car, again the small bore ones look very worn and need replacing. So thats 4 pipes in total. Quick call to Toyota and thats £264.83 inc VAT trade.:icon_eek:

Shit and bollocks come to mind and then i have the install aswell.:pray:

Money i was saving to go stand alone.

[Gary Symons]

Part 2.

Well, while we were looking for oil around the sump we noticed a small leak at the front of the car. Under further inspection the leak is coming from one of the small ridged hard line pipes which go behind the steering rack up to the heater matrix. Also the pipes running the length of the car, again the small bore ones look very worn and need replacing. So thats 4 pipes in total. Quick call to Toyota and thats £264.83 inc VAT trade.:icon_eek:

Shit and bollocks come to mind and then i have the install aswell.:pray:

Money i was saving to go stand alone.

I will see if I can dig out some pics of mine, they had the same problem. I cut off the offending end and replaced. Much cheaper than £264.83.

[Tim Higgott]

Cheers Gary. I've not ordered them yet and will hold off

[Gary Symons]

http://www.mr2mk1turbo.co.uk/diary8.htm
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

http://www.mr2mk1turbo.co.uk/photos/pipes.jpg

I also replaced the small steel pipes that protrude into the frunk with some home made ones. If I still have them do you want me to dig them out for you?

[TinyD]

Thanks that really means alot to me. 6.5 hours of hard t-cut and polish went into the car before japshow and i'm still not happy.:shrug:.
Bonnet needs paint but it will all come to ge th er.:mrgreen:

Have you thought about having the paint machine polished.
SE35 Reds come back Lovely
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/07/1.jpg

T-cut is good but doesnt leave you the best finish.

[Tim Higgott]

Hi TinyD

Had the car mopped and the paint work is shot. Yes does come back nice but within a few days its dull.
When they use to stray cars they had no uv protector. Only way i can do it properly is have a full respray. Old red paint always fades

[TinyD]

Thats odd Thats Jaspa over on IMOCS red 1.5 project that i have done in that pic and thats now got to be 3 months on and still as red as the day it was done and that is without any Wax or uv pretecion sealant.

What did they use when they mopped it sounds like they only used a glossing polish if its gone back already.

[Tim Higgott]

I work in a car dealership:careful:

My mate does the paint work and it is fubar. Its just old and wont hold. Tried everything and in places the paint is so thin you can see white coming through.

Maybe god will drop some money out of the sky so i can get it respray.:pray:

[TinyD]

Ah if you have taken it down that far then no wonder it wont stay.

Would you have it resprayed Red?

[Tim Higgott]

Ah if you have taken it down that far then no wonder it wont stay.

Would you have it resprayed Red?

Oh yes.:inlove:

[snowtigger]

With a black roof?.

[Tim Higgott]

With a black roof?.

Na really like my red.

[Charged]

Na really like my red.

You've got to get a black roof mate, it's a Two Brutal trademark!

[biteme]

Na really like my red.

Everton Blue - with "Nil Satis Nisi Optimum" on the bonnet :thumbsup:

[Tim Higgott]

http://www.mr2mk1turbo.co.uk/diary8.htm
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

I also replaced the small steel pipes that protrude into the frunk with some home made ones. If I still have them do you want me to dig them out for you?

Cheers gary. Next time i bring my car to work we are gonna get it on the ramp and see if we can repair it. Same thing as you cut the pipe off and bring the flexi hose up.

Thanks anyway.

[snowtigger]

Nullus secundus or wedberamek sumtea mate.

[Tim Higgott]

You've got to get a black roof mate, it's a Two Brutal trademark!


Maybe i will start a new trend.

Red like Liverpool! Not that i support them just don't like Everton :rlol:

This is however not true, it will just provoke Johnny into some pointless banter that i will lose. :duel:

[biteme]

Red like Liverpool! Not that i support them just don't like Everton :rlol:

Cunt...



it will just provoke Johnny into some pointless banter that i will lose. :duel:
Correct :thumbsup: (massive cunt)

[Tim Higgott]

Cunt...


Correct :thumbsup: (massive cunt)


That took longer than i expected and i thought the responce would be longer.

Straight and to the point to be fair.

Very funny i have to admit and now my computer screen has coffee spit over it.

[biteme]

:) always aim to please ...

[Tim Higgott]

:) always aim to please ...

Whats with the white writing. Is this the De Vinci code?

[biteme]

Whats with the white writing. Is this the De Vinci code?

No, but I am illuminati hhehee

It's just a nice subliminal message :) I often do it :)

[Tim Higgott]

Only noticed when i quoted your message. You called me a massive cunt!

I was shocked and hurt at the same time.:violin:


Whats this about making coffee?

[biteme]

Only noticed when i quoted your message. You called me a massive cunt!

I was shocked and hurt at the same time.:violin:


Whats this about making coffee?

Aww bless your cotton socks!!! you fuckin whimp!

There's a long story about me and coffee and Woodsport hehehe. He's too much of a minge to buy them, basically.
You massive cunt hehe

[Tim Higgott]

[QUOTE=Johnny G;193348]Aww bless your cotton socks!!! you fuckin whimp!

There's a long story about me and coffee and Woodsport hehehe.


:rlol: Very Funny:rlol:

[Tim Higgott]

Not sure if this will help anyone.

I'm running 17" wheels and had Koni shocks and springs put on. If you look at the picture olber photo shopped for me you will notice the back sits lower than the front. When i first started driving the car around i noticed that if i went over a bump the back wheels slightly rubbed against the wheel arch.
Well i was talking to one of my mates who recommended a cheap way of lifting the back. Grayston Spring Assisters, normally used for towing and apparently drag cars use them aswell. I purchased a set of ge13's and it took 5 minutes to fit both. They lifted the back end by about a inch and i have had them on before i went to Japshow. For £25.00 it sorted me out.

Hope this helps someone.

Johnny i still cant start new threads! And i have a big member

[OlberJ]

That sounds grand Tim, you got a link for where to buy em?

[Tim Higgott]

http://www.springassisters.co.uk/

Remember the car list is for standard springs. As most people are not using standard springs they tell you how to measure for which size you require.

Only took 2 days to come.

[OlberJ]

Nice one Tim, i'll be having a set of those.

[OlberJ]

What size did you get Tim? You got the same setup as me.

[Tim Higgott]

GE13's

[OlberJ]

Good man, ta.

[Diesel Meister]

Sorry to butt in chaps but I've a Q.

Considering the weight difference between the 3S-GTE and 3VZ-FE and 2GR-FE, will something like this be necessary on a 2GR'd Mk1 to keep the stance kosher? I'm sure I read somewhere (probably on a 2GR-related thread) that the 2GR is the lightest of the V6s but these spring / damper combos are surely designed for the standard running gear (and thus overall weight / distribution)?

[snowtigger]

it all depends what is the standard weight of a 4age and gearbox?.

i don't think the missus will like me using the digital scales to find out though.

[Tim Higgott]

Best thing to do is get the engine in and see if there are any issues. If there is, it really is a 5 minute job to put these on. Make sure the spring is not compressed i.e get it up on a jack and it really is easy.

[OlberJ]

If the 2GR is as light as suggested then i really don't think it'll need them.

Be doubtfull if a 1MZ'd Mk1 on the Konis would need them either.

[Diesel Meister]

Fair points all.

One thing I'm really interested in for the future would be a really good, road usable coil-over setup - custom valved and sprung for the finished article (and preferably not costing upwards of £4k for the parts), with camber plates etc. that should allow proper fine tuning / optimisation of the existing chassis for those of us not ready for a space-frame / silhouette approach.

Where's Jim when you need him? Been quiet for a while. Hopefully beavering away on the above....

[snowtigger]

Have a look on the brake forum he's on there at the moment you have to say some thing derogatory about ohlins to get his attention.

Ohlins are shite konis are the dogs bollocks sit back and watch.

[Diesel Meister]

lol

I might just try something like that.

/puts on asbestsos underkecks and kevlar vest

[Tim Higgott]

Just some stuff i've been upto. Taken out the dual pod for exchange for two single ones. If anyone wants the dual pod i'm not after any money they can either pay for postage or i can take to the next show.

Not put the stereo surround back yet

[biteme]

Postage will be £2.50 people ... lol

[Tim Higgott]

Oh and i've just got this through the post.

[snowtigger]

looks good but is it any cop with breathing, i like shiny bits but dont like the idea that it may not work.

[Tim Higgott]

looks good but is it any cop with breathing, i like shiny bits but dont like the idea that it may not work.

I've been told they work really well, will let you know.

[Diesel Meister]

The BMC's are supposed to be pretty good and the carbon enclosure ensures that you'll only be sucking luke warm as opposed to scorchingly hot air ;) Seriosuly though - tidy :)

I'd like an ITG cone with internal trumpet but (a) I'm not sure whether a big enough one will fit and (b) it's exposed foam so ideally would need custom heatshield / airbox to be made up.

[Tim Higgott]

Just a quick update.

GT2871 Apexi power fc and mapped. 1.1bar 306BHP and 280lbft.

Will get graphs up when i can.

[Paul Woods]

Nice, there's plenty more to come from that too i think Tim.

[Tim Higgott]

All Dyno's are different. I can honestly say it's quicker than my evo mr320 by a long way. When the turbo comes in you are pushed back in your seat hard.

Maxed out fueling. Need fuel pressure regulator and for the first time i think the car is quick. Still not quick enough but gonna enjoy the car for now.

It's not a drag strip car it belongs on the track. Will take it up the strip to get a comparison next year.

A little bit of sex wee came out when i pressed the happy pedal.

[snowtigger]

So you going to Santa pod then next year tim and upset the big boys toys?
I promise Greg won't get your wrist busted again any way, be good to put the v8 and 2gr against a sorted 1.5.

[Tim Higgott]

yes tiggs will be good to see the 3 up against each other. Need to get my fuel pressure up for some more boost. Doing reseach.

[snowtigger]

Have you got the walbro fitted or the standard turbo pump, the walbro is 255ltr the one up from this is the twin turbo supra pump but I cant quite rember if it's the jap supra or uk one that pumps 308ltr from what I've read and heard from various web sites should be good for 450bhp.

[Aware]

It's the UK one Tiggs...JDM is similar to tubby pump, IIRR...

[Tim Higgott]

Hi guys and girls long time. Most of you wont know but Lisa and I are expecting our first baby. 13 weeks gone.
Long story shoet i've sold The Goat. Tom will pick it up monday night and i will no longer own her. Sad days but have had
some great times. I will direct Tom onto the site to introduce himself. Will always pop on to see whats going on and you never know what will happen in the future.
Hope all is well with all.

[Goldy]

Great news tim, on the baby not the car! We just had our first in november you're in for a treat! As long as the cars gone to a good home that's the main thing! Good luck!

Si

[snowtigger]

Congratulations and comiseration a swell sorry the goats going but needs must as the devil drives, father hood eh enjoy it's a whole lot of fun for the next 18 years.
You never know a skyline is practical for a small family lol or a Nissan stygea/Subaru forester.

[Paul Woods]

Hi Tim, sorry to see you've sold her, but needs must i guess, i hope it gave you joy and that one day you will return to Mk1 ownership.

[Tim Higgott]

The Goat is going to a good home. I'm sure Tom will come alone he is a really nice bloke.
Have twins of 10 from previous but this is the most excited i've been.

Was thinking about a skyline but i've gone all sensible. I've bought a little Peugeot 206 2.0 HDI.
:thumbsup:
I'm pushing 90BHP and getting 40mpg round town:hidesbehi:

anyway hope i get to own one again.

[Charged]

Best wishes Tim, I hope you both are well

Ollie

[nik]

aye congrats to you and lisa..and congrats to tom for getting your mk1.5