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Paul Woods
13-03-2008, 18:55
Next up is bob's immaculate mk2 in for the V6 treatment.... we have been busy already doing his engine work (pics coming) but for now heres bob's car on the lift and ready for action....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/180.jpg
Fuck me, at the rate you're churning them out, there won't be a Mk2 left with a standard engine lol
That's gotta be the most progress on a swap to date Paul.
"Yep we managed to get in on the lift and now for some hobnobs" rotflmao
Paul Woods
13-03-2008, 19:02
As updates go its a bloody cracker eh?
and now a short intermission,cue lift music....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/08/127.jpg
Poohbear
13-03-2008, 19:11
Ooooooh lovely...finally have my own swap thread...I will be watching developments keenly :)
PS...Any update is better than no update :driving:
Bob
loadswine
13-03-2008, 19:15
Its a brilliant feeling mate. Enjoy the ride!:thumbsup:
PS...Any update is better than no update
I couldn't agree more Bob.:whistle:
I couldn't agree more Bob.:whistle:
:fart2:
As updates go its a bloody cracker eh?
and now a short intermission,cue lift music....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/08/127.jpg
PMSL
love the teddy
Switch_Bcn
14-03-2008, 21:01
Its great to see yours go on Bob, means mine is finished and ready for collection! :thumbsup:
Paul Woods
15-03-2008, 10:10
bob we have been working on your engine and havent started on the car itself yet,thats the relatively easy bit,dropping the old engine out.
The build threads are always a few days out of sync with the real world progress as i dont always get time to upload from my camera every night ,usually knackered when i get in,tons of images are coming though :thumbsup:
Its great to see yours go on Bob, means mine is finished and ready for collection! :thumbsup:
...and mine's a little nearer to being started! :thumbsup:
Poohbear
15-03-2008, 12:32
bob we have been working on your engine and havent started on the car itself yet,thats the relatively easy bit,dropping the old engine out.
The build threads are always a few days out of sync with the real world progress as i dont always get time to upload from my camera every night ,usually knackered when i get in,tons of images are coming though :thumbsup:
No problem Paul, I'm looking forward to seeing what's been done :jump:
Bob
Bob, once the engines done, they will fly through the swap.
Poohbear
17-03-2008, 21:38
I'm off to Dublin for 4 days from Thursday....some sort of update before I go would be nice....pretty please :)
Bob
Howlin_Mad
17-03-2008, 23:06
I'm off to Dublin for 4 days from Thursday....some sort of update before I go would be nice....pretty please :)
Bob
Don't be so impatient you old git rotflmao
Can't wait to see this when it's done Bob - should be stunning :thumbsup:
Kieren
I'm off to Dublin for 4 days from Thursday....some sort of update before I go would be nice....pretty please :)
Bob
Dublin has a shit load of internet cafe's...you'll be fine :)
snowtigger
18-03-2008, 01:07
well hope fully when my swops going through i may be in the good ole usa having a holiday then come back and drive the beast home won't that be fun.
only porn shop in the hole of ireland in dublin near the cinema go in there and watch how many women come through the doors absolutely loads very few blokes go in, guy i know runs it but he gets no hassle of the irish just the english hm customs and excise ,had the local preist on irish tv saying it was a disgrace and a moral outrage that this shop was there next day he had pretty much sold out of every thing cause now every one knows where it is.
nice little pub on the left of the lifey just before the walk way bridge on the same side as the jamesons distillery try the whisky thattis the one u can only get from the distillery shop worth going across to dublin just for a bottle of that liquid gold.
hey howling mad are you going to be doing a v6 aswell
Paul Woods
18-03-2008, 18:38
time for an update.... the heads have been ported,CTM do a fantastic job of these....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/240.jpg
various bits of the engine have been cleaned and painted....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/241.jpg
centre plenum section cleaned and painted.... along with cam covers
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/242.jpg
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/243.jpg
coolant filler neck...
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/244.jpg
Engine assembly should start tomorrow with all the painted bits going on too.
Poohbear
18-03-2008, 18:46
Oooooh I love the colour Paul, I think I made the right choice in the end. Do you have any other shots of the heads back from CTM...they are a work of art after all, it would be nice to see them in their entirety if possible :)
PS...Thanks for the update :)
Bob
Paul Woods
18-03-2008, 19:15
more pics coming tomorrow bob,we are a tad busy but i will do my best mate.
Looking good,blue will look very clean in the car.
Poohbear
18-03-2008, 20:33
more pics coming tomorrow bob,we are a tad busy but i will do my best mate.
Your efforts are much appreciated Paul :driving:
Bob
loadswine
18-03-2008, 20:34
I like the blue colour scheme, very cool.:cool:
Bob, you got your fix (completely understand your impatience, like an expectant father)
Looking good, and I would like to see more shots of the heads. You will see how quickly everything progresses form here, next thing you know paul will be saying "know we turn the key" :thumbsup:
Howlin_Mad
18-03-2008, 21:00
hey howling mad are you going to be doing a v6 aswell
Yes mate - loads of questions from me soon.....
Not quite up to Pauls excellent standards but i'll be running on 6 pots soon enough hopefully!
Kieren
kieren
you wont be dissapointed mate i had mine done 9 months ago and when i turn th key it still makes me smile and when i drive the sound is fantastic
steve
Its nice to see the progress through the internet. I must say it goes pretty fast. But thats only a good thing.....mine is next in line!!! :thumbsup:
Paul Woods
19-03-2008, 18:39
it is indeed huub! it wont be long now
Paul Woods
19-03-2008, 19:04
CTM headwork,3 angle valve job and reshimmed.....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/256.jpg
inlet ports
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/257.jpg
heads on,centre plenum on,cam covers on....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/258.jpg
top cover painted....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/259.jpg
plenum done,this is a lot glossier than it looks,blame the camera!
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/260.jpg
afm cleaned,primed and painted....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/261.jpg
so we are flying along now. :thumbsup:
Poohbear
20-03-2008, 00:09
Looking good there Paul, it's coming together nicely :)
Bob
Paul Woods
20-03-2008, 19:09
today saw the wiring harness fitted....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/278.jpg
and the plenum back on,i think you can appreciate the glossy finish better now!
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/279.jpg
throttle body on plus lots of other things added...
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/280.jpg
and the top cover added....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/281.jpg
so its really coming together quite quickly :thumbsup:
that looks awesome... :eek2:
Looks absolutley awesome this engine, got the chance to look at this first hand today. The inlet manifold's finnish is sooo deep, your gonna be well pleased with this Bob!
Paul Woods
21-03-2008, 07:01
bob said he wanted it silver and glossy....i think its had about twenty coats of 2k laquer lol
well it is glossy,and looks real nice.
dgh938peg
21-03-2008, 12:05
Give it a week before the intake plenum is off an polished! :D
Looks very nice!!! I like the glossy silver finish very much. The colour scheme is like we talked about Paul, only is this one in blue, whilst mine is goin to be red. (I hope my english is understandable). I think the engine will fit nice with the nice blue car!:praise2:
snowtigger
21-03-2008, 16:05
It's a lot better than my english and i was born and raised here?.
das ist einen gut deutch ya .
It's a lot better than my english and i was born and raised here?.
das ist einen gut deutch ya .
Dein deutch is sehr gut, aber ich wohne in Holland. I guess our languages sound very similar to you?
Paul Woods
21-03-2008, 17:58
today the old engine came out....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/283.jpg
and one empty engine bay...this is to get thoroughly cleaned but its already pretty clean to start with....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/284.jpg
Once the heatshields were off we inspected the hose from hell.....all appears good,no leaks present....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/285.jpg
msherry21
21-03-2008, 18:10
Paul, whats this cable highlighted in red and where does the other end get attached to? I can see that sides bolted to the chassis.
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/290.jpg
Paul Woods
21-03-2008, 18:14
thats an earth strap mate,it should attach to your plenum or head
msherry21
21-03-2008, 18:20
...Of course I don't happen to have the other end of mine attached to the chassis.....so its definately not going from one part of the chassis to another:hidesbehi
...just popping out to the car to do something...:blush:
jimgreen
21-03-2008, 20:33
That's not fair on all us homebrew swappers, working on a bank holiday!!!
snowtigger
22-03-2008, 01:01
shhhhhh it's the only time he can get any work done with no one mythering him.
Poohbear
23-03-2008, 20:48
Hi guys,
Just got back from Dublin, I did try to get online at a couple of internet cafe's but would you believe it TwoBrutal site was blocked due to adult content ffs...gave up in the end and decided to wait until I got home.
Anyway...cracking work there Paul...bay looks kinda empty without the old engine in there, but glad it will be going to a good home.
Can't wait to see how the V6 looks fitted into there. Is the front urethane engine mount (drilled one) still in one piece??
PS...what are the two black spray paint lines all about just below the drivers side engine mount?
Bob
Paul Woods
24-03-2008, 06:29
yeah the front mount is still intact.
Ive no idea what the two black marks are,something toyota do as ive seen that before.
snowtigger
24-03-2008, 13:02
it's to do with when they were on the conveyor being put together quality control issue and alignment, as some cars are pulled of the line for testing then get fed back into the system and they never take the spray paint of the panel cause it's no longer cost effective and doesn't detract from the car and the owner will never see it or know wot it is.
seen it done on the jaguar assembly line and asked the same question , was also funny if u use the wrong tool out of sequence when bolting in the engine and gear box and suspension an alarm and buzzer goes of and if u don't use the correct tool the whole production line shuts down untill it is rectified could watch them putting cars together for hours fascinating.
Paul Woods
25-03-2008, 19:20
today the gearbox got degreased,cleaned and painted....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/386.jpg
And with the flywheel and clutch added we stuck it on the dolly ready for fitting....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/387.jpg
Then shortly after it was hanging in the bay....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/388.jpg
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/389.jpg
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/390.jpg
Poohbear
25-03-2008, 19:32
Wey hey Paul that looks grand :)
Bob
loadswine
25-03-2008, 21:16
Superb!
Look at the state of that engine lid release catch. Shocking. lol
Rest of it looks brammer that does :thumbsup:
Poohbear
25-03-2008, 21:51
Look at the state of that engine lid release catch. Shocking. lol
Rest of it looks brammer that does :thumbsup:
I know, I know....I hang my head in shame...I let things slide a little once I knew the swap was definitely happening....can I ever be forgiven? lol
Bob
weegaz22
25-03-2008, 22:50
If you chrome it. lol
if he does he may as well add one of these as well
http://www.decalarama.co.uk/images/novelty/chav_inside.JPG
weegaz22
25-03-2008, 22:59
on a more serious note theres one for tubbys, v6, v8 etc on this site
http://www.decalarama.co.uk/images/novelty/v6.jpg
http://www.decalarama.co.uk/novelty.htm
Two yellow Chav... errr, sorry, V6 ones ordered! lol
Have some of these for the base of my doors, by the front wheels.
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/395.jpg
Just small and subtle.
weegaz22
26-03-2008, 14:27
Have some of these for the base of my doors, by the front wheels.
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/395.jpg
Just small and subtle.
toooooo easy...way tooo easy.... a mk2 and an ayrton senna sticker... i know what owens thinking lol
Not even Owen is sick enough to mock the great man
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/388.jpg
Smashing colour that :thumbsup:
Paul Woods
27-03-2008, 19:15
lots of little jobs done today,heater pipes and coolant lines all done,fuel lines done,gear cables and clutch line installed... and of course the coolant hardpipe we make that has a very factory toyota look about it....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/406.jpg
Rear subframe is also back on as are driveshafts... tomorrow she gets wired and maybe even started up.
jimgreen
27-03-2008, 19:23
cor, it's a good job I had a 6 month headstart on this. Looks like bob will be driving round in his before mine is done anyway :(
Poohbear
27-03-2008, 19:27
Ooooh looking forward to that Paul....bring it on.
Bob
loadswine
27-03-2008, 19:35
This is amazing, just about the fastest build I can remember seeing and it looks amazing.:thumbsup:
This is amazing, just about the fastest build I can remember seeing and it looks amazing.:thumbsup:
And he hasn't even turned the key yet :)
Its going to be a shiney beasty! :thumbsup:
Have some of these for the base of my doors, by the front wheels.
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/395.jpg
Just small and subtle.
Where did you these from ?
Thanks,
Rich.
Poohbear
29-03-2008, 13:02
How did you get on with the 'Y' pipe mod and the Air filter adaptor Paul??
It's all coming together nicely now :)
Bob
Paul Woods
29-03-2008, 17:17
the filter adapter is done,i havent done the Y pipe yet,thats monday or tuesdays job.
Poohbear
29-03-2008, 17:29
:thumbsup:
Only one week to go...train tickets purchased (the other half Maggie insisted 1st Class) costing me a lot more than money this conversion lol :)
Bob
Paul Woods
01-04-2008, 19:23
well it officially fired up for the first time yesterday but i was puking up everywhere with a nasty stomach bug so didnt feel like posting much!
here is the finished bay,theres still some cleaning to do on rubber pipes etc...
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/04/2.jpg
And i completely took out the Y section,this is straight through and both banks merge together above the subframe....
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/04/3.jpg
Poohbear
01-04-2008, 19:54
Ooooh nice Paul....I like the artistry with the exhaust downpipes, very well excecuted :)
Bob
Well that gives me confidence in my exhaust set-up, very similar!! Was a little concerned about downpipe lengths being different.
loadswine
01-04-2008, 20:54
Nice piece of sculpture there Paul. I bet that works a treat.:thumbsup:
That exhaust is excellent, can you post a pic of the other side where they merge and connect to the cat. cheers
Paul Woods
02-04-2008, 07:06
yes paul the only thing that bugs me about taking out the Y section is its v hard to retain an equal length exhaust length,but ive done this a few times now on the mk1 and nigels mk3 v6 without any noticeable ill effects.Im guessing its got to be better than with the factory Y.
Hasad its very hard to take a pic of the area above the subframe with the exhaust fitted but i will try mate
Is this something you're going to be doing on all future conversions Paul?
...hint, hint. lol
Paul Woods
02-04-2008, 18:16
all depends how it works out,its still a bit dubious as to wether the Y pipe mod gains a lot.... we are lacking dyno runs before and after.
Its more work to eliminate the Y,but i can do it on yours if you like
Was up there the other day Bob and had a look at the car, looks superb, and the engine looks fantastic sat in that bay, you are gonna love it.....Make sure "Mrs Poohbear" doesn't accompany you on the return journey......she may not let you play with its full potential ;-)
loadswine
02-04-2008, 20:06
all depends how it works out,its still a bit dubious as to wether the Y pipe mod gains a lot.... we are lacking dyno runs before and after.
Its more work to eliminate the Y,but i can do it on yours if you like
I guess i should get mine on the dyno sometime then!
You guess? You guess?
GET IT ON!!
As soon as mine is done and run in, it's captain dyno for me lol
snowtigger
02-04-2008, 21:36
der der der it's him, it's who, it's him him, who him,captain dyno and his wheels of steel.
:hmm: The Y-pipe mod...
I can see on this car how the pipes are now. Does anybody have a picture for me showing the "original"-situation?
der der der it's him, it's who, it's him him, who him,captain dyno and his wheels of steel.
give it a rest, for absolute fuck sake
Poohbear
02-04-2008, 21:49
Was up there the other day Bob and had a look at the car, looks superb, and the engine looks fantastic sat in that bay, you are gonna love it.....Make sure "Mrs Poohbear" doesn't accompany you on the return journey......she may not let you play with its full potential ;-)
Bit late unfortunately, already purchased the first class train tickets to get up there....I've been informed that there is no way she is missing the trip :hand:
She's a good girl though and doesn't mind a bit o speedy driving :)
Bob
Ahh sweet .. just be careful down the A1 and the A17 (I assume you'd take that!) - the Police are bastards with the cameras!
:hmm: The Y-pipe mod...
I can see on this car how the pipes are now. Does anybody have a picture for me showing the "original"-situation?
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/03/205.jpg
As you can see, more of a T-Pipe than a Y-Pipe.
Whatever you get done to it, couldn't be worse than stock I guess :)
As you can see, more of a T-Pipe than a Y-Pipe.
Ah yes, the new situation looks much, much better!
snowtigger
02-04-2008, 22:33
never had a problem down the a1m 70 ish slow down for the new road works and the speed cameras, i thought paul said to keep it easy on the throttle till it's bedded every thing in for a few miles, i know he does a lot of shake down testing after hes finished the conversion to make sure that every thing is hunky dory.
the pipe work looks very nice more free flowing get rid of that horrible t bit.
johnny i was not having a go at u just been watching the cannonball run on dvd classic burt reynolds and dom deluise with captain chaos at the end.
all depends how it works out,its still a bit dubious as to wether the Y pipe mod gains a lot.... we are lacking dyno runs before and after.
Its more work to eliminate the Y,but i can do it on yours if you like
My butt-dyno says there's definitely a good chunk of horsepower being eaten up by the miserable perpendicular "T pipe" that comes stock on 3VZ/1MZ engines.. :)
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg
all depends how it works out,its still a bit dubious as to wether the Y pipe mod gains a lot.... we are lacking dyno runs before and after.
Its more work to eliminate the Y,but i can do it on yours if you like
Yes please mate. I really want to do anything that can be done in the preliminary stages to flow as much as possible, so when I'm ready to supercharge the motor, it'll take full advantage of the mods.
Much obliged Paul.
dgh938peg
03-04-2008, 16:04
My butt-dyno says there's definitely a good chunk of horsepower being eaten up by the miserable perpendicular "T pipe" that comes stock on 3VZ/1MZ engines.. :)
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg
That's a lovely piece of workmanship but what's the ground clearance like with that set up?
splintermcinnes
03-04-2008, 16:21
i dont have a dyno of my current set up - standard T piece, but when i get my full custom system on at the start of may i will let you know! for the money i hope it makes the world of difference! my current one is fucked. anyone else here suffer from the flexi section letting go regularly???? the turbo engine split one and now the V6 has - time for stronger (poly) engine mounts i think?!! can these be bought for our V6's or is it something we have to modify??
Poohbear
03-04-2008, 17:27
Front and rear poly mounts can be bought from Speed-source and are plenty strong enough...in fact a bit too strong as I had to drill some holes through my front one to reduce cabin vibration.
Bob
Or RS components for the stuff to fill the mounts, a bit messy but hell of a lot cheaper.
splintermcinnes
03-04-2008, 19:42
Front and rear poly mounts can be bought from Speed-source and are plenty strong enough...in fact a bit too strong as I had to drill some holes through my front one to reduce cabin vibration.
Bob
ah ok, but arent our mounts moddified?? i forget which one has been changed and which are stock! so are the front and rears a straight swap? this would greatly reduce engine movement under acceleration, so less stress on the exhaust flexi, right??!!
geoffmunt
03-04-2008, 21:46
My butt-dyno says there's definitely a good chunk of horsepower being eaten up by the miserable perpendicular "T pipe" that comes stock on 3VZ/1MZ engines.. :)
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg
Just a thought....could look and work quite well if doing a system from scratch...why not run the downpipes one to each side with 2 silencers meeting in the middle with twin outlets in a centre-exit formation (Boxster-style)? Wanted to do that on my old turbo but it just wasn't right for a 4-pot. When you're starting with a downpipe from each bank of cylinders, a bit more feasible though.
Just a thought, as I say.
Poohbear
03-04-2008, 22:08
ah ok, but arent our mounts moddified?? i forget which one has been changed and which are stock! so are the front and rears a straight swap? this would greatly reduce engine movement under acceleration, so less stress on the exhaust flexi, right??!!
AFAIK the front/rear/gearbox mounts are all stock with the addition of an adaptor mounting for the driverside engine mount.
The ones to be concerned with re:engine movement and it's effects on the flexi joints are the front and rear, which are the ones Speed-source sell see pics below.
Speed-source rear mount
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/11/20.jpg
Speed-source front mount before modification
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/11/21.jpg
Speed-source front mount after modification to reduce cabin vibration. I dont have a picture of it refitted to the car but you get the idea.
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/11/22.jpg
Bob
Front mount on the Mk2 usually falls to bits when you remove it. Replace it with one from a turbo or use a poly one. the left and right mounting rubber can stay standard except you will also need the modified engine mount for the right hand side. poly busing the rear mount is personal choice or it can stay standard.
I only poly bushed the front mount and subframe bushes. Very little vibration noticed. And the engine hardly moves at all in the bay.
That's a lovely piece of workmanship but what's the ground clearance like with that set up?
Fine. It has passed over gobs of speed bumps without so much as a scratch! The Greddy lip on the front of the car scrapes all the time, though! ;)
Just a thought...
I gave thought to having a little curly-que put into the middle section to keep the runners equal length before the y-merge, but cost and space dictated this setup.. I also refuse to run without a catalytic converter, so that considerably restricts my available real estate for wonky exhaust paths :)
Great idea, though.. I would do a lot of things differently if I had the swap to do over.
Paul Woods
04-04-2008, 06:50
matt your car used to be a turbo so we re used the front turbo torque mount,they are up to the job as long as they are fit.
On the NA's the front torque mount is garbage and wont cope of hold the v6 under torque properly,and we replace all of these with a poly mount.
It could be your turbo one has failed matt,they are usually up to the job,upgrade to a poly one and that should stop flexis cracking.
splintermcinnes
04-04-2008, 07:09
matt your car used to be a turbo so we re used the front turbo torque mount,they are up to the job as long as they are fit.
On the NA's the front torque mount is garbage and wont cope of hold the v6 under torque properly,and we replace all of these with a poly mount.
It could be your turbo one has failed matt,they are usually up to the job,upgrade to a poly one and that should stop flexis cracking.
i cant see it right now as im still on board ship, but i think that is the problem! poly bush is the way forward! Credit card is lovin me at the minute!!:rofl: rotflmao
Poohbear
04-04-2008, 07:40
How have you got on with the Tacho mod Paul did it work OK as Sengt described??
Bob
Paul Woods
04-04-2008, 18:00
hi bob,it works but i dont know how accurately,my tachometer is knackered at the garage,im ordering a new one shortly.... by the look of things it seems to have made it read correctly though
Poohbear
04-04-2008, 18:21
Great stuff Paul...see you at the station in the morning :)
Bob
Paul Woods
04-04-2008, 18:27
keep me posted on the train times,they can be buggers.
Poohbear
04-04-2008, 18:35
Will text you if it's going to be late or early Paul.
On the positive side for future V6 swappers, we informed our insurers today about the swap (Chris Knott acting for Highway) and our premium has only increased by £44 with all mods declared :) must be because we are OLD!!
Bob
splintermcinnes
04-04-2008, 18:54
i was 24 when i had mine done a year ago, previously i was a mk2 turbo with arround 5 grands worth of work done, all mods listed. with the V6 'only' having 200 bhp, my premium went down by like 400quid!!!!! sweet! went down another 400 this year as im now in the 25 and over bracket!! wohoo!!!!
No, it's because he's old, older than time. lol
Hope you enjoy the drive home squire. Am sure it'll be an audio pleasure experience.
Poohbear
05-04-2008, 17:02
Well that was an interesting trip :)
Caught the bus @ 7.00am from King's Lynn to Peterborough Rail Station to pick up the train to Durham. Settled into first class for the 2 1/4 hour trip up, all day breakfast ciabatta and coffee going down very nicely indeed :)
Get to Durham @ 10.50 and within 10 mins Paul is there to pick us up and ferry us to his workshop about 10 mins away (top service mate). On arrival my baby is sitting waiting outside the workshop as clean as it can be seeing as the heavens had just opened.
Not sure what it is about people going to pick there cars up from Paul (jinxed he is with the weather hey Jinja??)
Anyway quick gander at the car and the side strips that Paul has kindly renovated and painted for me and it's time to open the engine lid and take my first real look. Let me tell you the pictures don't do Pauls work justice in the flesh it is stunning.
Next thing is to turn the key and start the car....omfg what a sound...after the initial 2000 rpm tickover until warm the engine settles down to a lovely soft burble that can only come from a V6 or V8, couple of presses of the throttle and all hell breaks loose sounds gorgeous...at this point Maggie will tell you i'm grinning like a cheshire cat and raring to go lol.
Back into the workshop to have a look round at the other conversions Paul is doing and to pay him his dues. Some advice from Paul with regards to some checks to do in a few days and we are ready to leave.
With Pauls words of advice ringing in my ears about keeping it to 4000 rpm for the first 100 miles we set off on the trip home...after some slow pottering around to get off the trading estate we turn on to the main road and I start to drive it as I drove the 3S-GE...oops straight up to 5K in second...need to be a bit lighter on the throttle for a little while, this V6 spins up really quickly by comparison.
After a stop to brim fill the petrol tank we set off down th A1 for the monotonous section of the journey home. First thing we notice at cruising speed 3000 rpm is how much less droney it is..it's very quiet indeed (I thought with the de-cat it would be really loud)
As we get 100 miles or so on the engine I start to have a play booting it 5th gear from 2.5K to 5K....the surge is totally unexpected it just pulls and pulls from nothing...I loved my 3S-GE to bits but it had nowhere near the grunt that this V6 does, god knows what it will be like when I start to give it full beans. Noise wise...let's say it's easily as good as the 3S-GE and it's going to be addictive :)
Butt dyno feels like 220bhp but we will find out for sure at the first opportunity.
As we near the end of our journey I get Maggs to video some footage as we come off a roundabout, I'm giving it roughly 5K in every gear, I'll let you be the judge see video below...excuse the quality it was taken with a phone cam.
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/04/34.jpg (http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/Poohbear9044/?action=view¤t=V6_Revs.flv)
Anyway we got home without any issues or problems, car is running sweet as a nut, a real testament to Pauls skills. Popped into Tesco to brim fill the car with petrol again and worked out the the V6 returned 32mpg so about the same as the 3S-GE :)
Bob
Superb mate. Paul is #1 ain't he?
Hopefully this is another testament to the V6 and might just silence some of those V6 critics!
loadswine
05-04-2008, 17:31
Glad you're enjoying it mate, knew you would. Tell you what though, that grin just doesn't go away, I still giggle every time I take mine for a blast.
Agree with Johnny, Paul is numero uno!
Thats first drive gives you such a great feeling.
Bob, what revs were you seeing at 70mph. As I remember before the swap you were saying 3250rpm or there abouts.
Poohbear
05-04-2008, 18:44
I'm seeing about 3800 rpm @ 70 but that's because the tacho hasn't yet been calibrated. The change of resistor and variable potentiometer are in place in my original MR2 tacho...courtesy of Paul and Sengts write-up so when I get time I will be having a twiddle to put it right :)
PS...Can I be added to the swap register purty please :)
Bob
dgh938peg
05-04-2008, 19:48
Bob,
That sounds stunning! I bet you've STILL got a grin on your face like the cat who's got the cream!
Dan
Poohbear
06-04-2008, 09:48
Oh!! I have indeed...and long may it continue :)
Bob
Paul Woods
06-04-2008, 09:55
added to the register bob,number 33 mate.
Glad she behaved herself on the big journey home,always a worry for me that,quite something arent they!
superchargedsam
06-04-2008, 10:01
awesome work!
Nice one Bob. Dead envious mate. Can't wait for Mr Woods to get his hands on mine now...
Paul Woods
06-04-2008, 11:49
Can't wait for Mr Woods to get his hands on mine now...
CAR! of course.... :)
hey bob
glad you picked the car up ok its a long drive back but its really worth it m8 i drove mine back with the window open just to hear it burblr, and it still does it to this day i love to get in my car every day as i use it every day even to go to the shops my wife goes mad cos i go to work in it at 11-30 at night and as soon as i start it up it wakes her up
My car always makes me smile especially when it snowed yesterday i was sliding all over did not get out off 2nd cos i was spinning it hey but what fun
it just needs a very good clean but eill have to wait
so please enjoy bob and as mr johnny says a nother v6 car the knockers dont like
Alright Bob,
Glad your happy with your conversion mate, makes me feel even more excited about mine, not long to go now, 26th!!
Unfortunatley I have a 4.5 hr drive home all motorway, but rest assured as soon as Im near home I will be playing!
Rich.
Sounds great Bob, lucky chap!
Well pleased for you Bob, there's only a v6 owner has that daft smile on his face whilst driving his/her(Paul) car. It was months before I started to use my stereo, cos of the noise from the engine. Nice one mate, enjoy!!!
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