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snowtigger
30-12-2009, 10:37
I'm not putting a downer if you can get a import plate with it on one line go for it is what I say, you may have to go online to get it as my local motorfactors was a pain because the computer software wouldn't space it properly, or allow you to modify the legal spaceing.

Will post up a picture of my new plate soon bought at Santa pod so definately not entirely legal but have a legal plate for the mot man who just happens to be a mate I have grown up with all my life and he's quite an understanding guy, and he can't wait to see what this engine conversion is like, he's also a qualified automotive/marine enginer.

Garbe
30-12-2009, 10:42
There's a website I used to get my front import size one. They are legal once there's not too many digits. I'll look around and see if I can find it.

ukpaisley
30-12-2009, 15:05
Westgate Road, shop there that doze anything ! right hand side halfe way up, did the plate for my Angolan Quad lol, silver/black

Paul Woods
04-01-2010, 17:48
Pics of the first work that has been done on my rollcage... just basic tacking together and getting it to follow the contours of the body for now, i am going to remove the whole thing and pretty it up before final fitting.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/01/278.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/01/47.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/01/279.jpg

Also need to extend two bars backwards to the strut tops, and also thinking of tieing this into the v8 "box" section.

adamh
04-01-2010, 18:39
nice so far. are you putting slimmer seats in?

Paul Woods
04-01-2010, 18:42
Yep, buckets with very slim backs mate, space is an issue!

Diesel Meister
04-01-2010, 20:26
I still can't get over how over-engined this car is. I thought 3.0 litres and 24 valves in a Mk1 would be overkill at the start of 2009.

2010 has a new paradigm - the WS MR8 / AW11+8 has so many damned ccs the driver has to share cabin space with them ffs lol

Plain. Awesome.

biteme
04-01-2010, 20:30
CC's = cubic centimeters or coco's?

Diesel Meister
04-01-2010, 20:50
lol

Don't get him started on his rings of power :)

Clarky_X
04-01-2010, 21:55
OMFG, when will the first LFA appear in a breakers so Paul can put one of them in a Mk1. To quote hamster on TG, a V10 the size of a V8 as light as a V6. Totally bonkers. They'll never sell any of course cos at that price you'd just get a Zonda or Carrera GT wouldn't you. Well you would. But a rear ended one would be a great find.

Hey Paul if you stick a couple of Turbos on your 8 and turn it into an RS6 lump, you could put plate M256 TWO on it. Or not, as that would be a newer plate than the car. Nice plate though. IMO.

Paul Woods
05-01-2010, 07:15
Yep my next upgrade will either be adding a pair of turbs or swapping this AHC for an RS4 unit.

dgh938peg
05-01-2010, 09:25
Not sure if i've said this before but the RS6 lump (V8TT) is collossal! Not sure you'd have room for it even in your extended bay! But knowing you Mr Woods I'm sure you'd make it fit! :) Cooling on those babies is quite critical tho........

One other option to possibly consider (tho not V8) would be the older RS4 lump - V6TT and easily capable of 600+hp.

You're right though - your best bet is the RS4 V8 lump - it's way lighter than your current S8 beastie! Might be worth trawling the Audi forums as i don't think it's been TC'd yet.... Though i know it's been SC'd and with ungodly consequences!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBkX8GS5FoY

535hp and this thing sounds EPIC!!!

Diesel Meister
05-01-2010, 11:17
If Paul ever feels under-endowed in the thrust dept. (as if!) , my vote is RS4 V8 - that thing is mental even in a 1700kg saloon, nevermind bloody FI!

biteme
05-01-2010, 11:31
If Paul ever feels under-endowed in the thrust dept. (as if!) , my vote is RS4 V8 - that thing is mental even in a 1700kg saloon, nevermind bloody FI!

I'm thinking the same mate :)
I also think a nice SC in the V would be cool as hell

Diesel Meister
05-01-2010, 11:42
True. S/C goes slightly better with V8 imo, partly because of the acoustic benefits, partly because of the avalanche of insta-torques :)

PaulM
05-01-2010, 13:56
Yep, it would be SC for myself, tho mainly due to the lack of engine bay size for twin turb's

robwsurf
05-01-2010, 17:52
surely that much torque in a mk1 how ever wide the rear wheels are it ll struggle for grip

Paul Woods
05-01-2010, 17:54
That is where the racelogic TC kit comes in :)

biteme
05-01-2010, 18:03
That is where the racelogic TC kit comes in :)

Bin that VEMS and get a Solaris! :)

Paul Woods
05-01-2010, 18:05
Maybe one day mate, this ECU will do for now to get some miles on it.

biteme
05-01-2010, 18:08
Maybe one day mate, this ECU will do for now to get some miles on it.

:thumbsup:

snowtigger
05-01-2010, 21:00
Yes we whant it up and at shows before you start turbo/rs4/solaris/engine swopping, for fuck sake just get this bastard finished painted and at the shows this year, I don't whant another headline change again oh look read about my v6 then v8 to Saturn five thrust rocket, and it never hits the fucking road for Christ sake please I'm begging you get it finished before you start modifying it more.

Diesel Meister
05-01-2010, 22:20
And that's before the S/C lol

I think Paul's under no illusions that the results may be "unpredictable" - it's hardly a daily driver after all :)

Finish it yes, but have some hob nobs for mine as well lol

Paul Woods
06-01-2010, 07:03
Don't worry chaps i am definately finishing it in its current state of tune and driving it around for at least 6 months to shake any bugs out before planning any upgrades.

Unpredictable to say the least diran! God knows what it will be like.

Clarky_X
06-01-2010, 12:53
Paul, get Woodsport a big stand at the shows and do passenger rides. You'll make a killing (hopefully only in money) perhaps better hand the keys to someone else if what I've read on here is true. :Cheeky:
The Caterham boys do just this at Stoneleigh every year. Couple of cones, some straw bales, donut at each end of a slalom. Perfik.

snowtigger
06-01-2010, 13:07
After all the hard work I don't think Paul would whant to stuff it on it's first outing, as a caterham is alot easyer to repair.

Diesel Meister
06-01-2010, 13:10
I think just getting a close look at / listen to this car will sell a fair few slots on the WS waiting list :)

It only took me 3 youtubes of V6 MR2s to get my wallet open - imagine the carnage that a V8 powered Mk1 will wreak across the land....

Overdrafts
Loans
Muderous Girlfriends

lol

biteme
06-01-2010, 13:10
You can get about £40k for a kidney

Diesel Meister
06-01-2010, 15:59
If I were you, I wouldn't be selling another one lol

Gouky
06-01-2010, 16:58
I think just getting a close look at / listen to this car will sell a fair few slots on the WS waiting list :)

It only took me 3 youtubes of V6 MR2s to get my wallet open - imagine the carnage that a V8 powered Mk1 will wreak across the land....

Overdrafts
Loans
Muderous Girlfriends

lol

:rlol::rlol:

brianbooth
08-01-2010, 00:31
You'll have to keep us updated on how the racelogic system works out, Paul. Standalone ecus don't seem like a great option at the moment for the 2gr crowd but I suspect that some kind of TC would be wise.

snowtigger
08-01-2010, 08:06
The solaris seems to be the one too back for stand alone ecus for the 2gr.

The mega squirt may be up for it in the future but the only other I think is the link g4 extreme, for us mk1 lads who don't have abs or any fancy driving aids some thing simple should surfice, we just need it to control the drive by wire throttle and the dual vvti.

brianbooth
08-01-2010, 16:19
we just need it to control the dual vvti.

That's a big "just" :)

biteme
08-01-2010, 16:26
The solaris seems to be the one too back for stand alone ecus for the 2gr.

The mega squirt may be up for it in the future but the only other I think is the link g4 extreme, for us mk1 lads who don't have abs or any fancy driving aids some thing simple should surfice, we just need it to control the drive by wire throttle and the dual vvti.

The Solaris will do that - it might also be worth you looking at some kind of ABS sensor setup, to allow you run with the Traction and the Launch Controls, should you wish to that!

Diesel Meister
08-01-2010, 17:42
I think the standard 2GR in a Mk1 will be ok without TCS. Just make sure the throttles go a nice loooojng travel with a thick spring and employ some judicious control of the right clog...

ABS I'll not sniff at as I think it's better to have it than not for the majority of general road driving by mortals.

I would defo consider going standalone if modifying the 2GR, including FI. Plus better life insurance....

ON topic - Paul, I think you need to make space for parachutes. Two for the car, one for the driver :)

Clarky_X
01-02-2010, 19:56
Paul, any V8 stuff coming our way soon. 2GR threads very busy, are you putting your business and customers first again?

Paul Woods
02-02-2010, 07:12
I'm afraid that is always the case mate, customers cars and garage priorities must come first, but as soon as i can i will be back into the v8 madness and getting more work done.... i won't ever give up on it until it is 100% done.

Paul Woods
19-03-2010, 18:41
Well it was way before xmas 2009 last time i touched the car so i decided to selfishly leave the garage work for one day and do as much as i could to the v8.

After a few hours the engine and gearbox are now out of the car for the final time, only now can you see the structural work to the chassis that has gone on, you can see the new crossmember tied into the old one and the box section from the engine bay side. I have a lot of work to do here, seam welding, sealing and painting the whole bay out before the engine can go back in for the last time. I also have a lot of heat protection and sound deadening to add.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/03/260.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/03/261.jpg

It all needs a damn good clean up as well!

Here is my baby...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/03/128.jpg

Now that it's back out i plan on going to town on it, rebuild it with fresh gaskets, detail everything and port/polish those heads, i have already seen they aren't properly port matched to the plenum so i think i can get some gains in this area.

They look incredibly similar to 3vz ports, so if we get the same 15% gain on this engine with no cats and the standalone i "could" potentially be talking about 400bhp NA :) Although i would be incredibly happy with its stock 350bhp.

loadswine
19-03-2010, 18:57
Glad its getting some more work on this one Paul, looking forward to seeing more on this, it is superb mate! :thumbsup:

Gary Symons
19-03-2010, 19:41
Its about bloody time you got back on this car. :)

adamh
19-03-2010, 20:36
there are a few extra holes in there, look forward to progression..

Diesel Meister
19-03-2010, 20:53
I know I'm supposed to be excited about my car but this thing is just too damned ridiculous to resist a big :thumbsup:

Clarky_X
19-03-2010, 21:35
Is JAE at Wickstead Park this year? Are you coming down with it, the car I mean?

snowtigger
19-03-2010, 22:29
I think the words are "you try and stop him", our 2grs are going to be interesting but this things a whole different ball game like paulm and podges missile, these cars are going to be amazeing.

podge
20-03-2010, 09:50
nicely done paul keep up the good work fella:thumbsup:

Spook
20-03-2010, 15:25
Paul, have you finalised the exhaust yet?

I found some inspiration for the look -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Feh2GH-gDnE&feature=related


Just take a look at the pipework on the twin turbo lambo
http://www.heffnersperformance.com/murcielago_tt_pictures.htm

I think i'm a bit partial to bling!

Paul Woods
20-03-2010, 15:50
Yes my TVR system is complete, but my god that twin turbo set up is nice, i think i have to concentrate on getting this car finished in NA form first before strapping turbos to it, but i can definately see me doing this in the future.

Going to listen to that video again now :)

Plasticgeordie2007
20-03-2010, 16:36
I think have just soiled myself listening to that, and looking at the lambo pictures

Spook
20-03-2010, 17:50
Found not one, but 2 V6's on this one, must sound almost as good as Johnnys car!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuXCw2Q79rA&feature=related

Paul Woods
25-03-2010, 19:02
My V8 has now been tore down for new gaskets, detailing the whole thing and some headwork (350bhp NA just isn't enough , i'm shooting for 400 :) )
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/03/276.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v624/paddy1970/woodsport3/?action=view&current=v81.jpg)
I have decided to ditch this massive pile of crap oil filter housing/cooler, it weighs about 6kgs and about 8kgs with oil and water in it... a total waste of time...
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/03/277.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v624/paddy1970/woodsport3/?action=view&current=v82.jpg)
So off it came, i will plumb too flexi oil lines to those two ports instead...
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/03/278.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v624/paddy1970/woodsport3/?action=view&current=v83.jpg)
My bores are in perfect unworn condition which i am very happy about, in fact the whole engines internals look like new.

Diesel Meister
25-03-2010, 19:09
Superb.

Insane but superb :thumbsup:

OlberJ
25-03-2010, 21:59
What's the bits like for this, quite expensive or not bad for x 8 everything?

Gouky
26-03-2010, 01:54
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v624/paddy1970/woodsport3/?action=view&current=v81.jpg)

Paul,

what are the coolant pipes in the valley for? seems a little odd.

400HP without any forced induction seems like it should be doable.

Paul Woods
26-03-2010, 06:51
Olie the bits are average priced but hard to get hold of, if anyone can help me trace the following i'd be grateful...

Complete AHC gasket set, may be the same as ABZ, i just don't know, engine is a 99 audi quattro S8 AHC.
Flywheel pilot bearing, 23.8mm OD 15mm ID

Marc do you mean the two pipes sticking up like wasp antennae? Crankcase breathers.

PaulM
26-03-2010, 09:03
Hi Paul
Try audi part number 034 105 313 A for the pilot bearing, thats what I'm using and having pulled three spigot bearings out of the flywheels of an S4, RS6, 2.5tdi, they're all the same size.

've got the part number for the head gasket set for when I had to remove the heads, but I guess you want the whole kit and caboodle. Gaskets will be the same as the ABZ, as the differences in the engine are all in the head ( cylinder..that is :) )

Ps If you need one quickly I've got a spare used one, I can stick in the post

Gouky
26-03-2010, 10:35
crankcase breathers makes a whole lot more sense than coolant pipes, thanks :)

Paul Woods
26-03-2010, 19:55
Cheers Paul, i've been really struggling with the spigot... i just hope my deltashite flywheel has the same ID as the bearing OD!

I have a gasket set on order now, cost me £250 all in, not cheap, but it's quality and a job i really don't want to be doing twice. My heads get ported/polished next week and the whole engine rebuilt.

PaulM
26-03-2010, 21:21
Cheers Paul, i've been really struggling with the spigot... i just hope my deltashite flywheel has the same ID as the bearing OD!

I have a gasket set on order now, cost me £250 all in, not cheap, but it's quality and a job i really don't want to be doing twice. My heads get ported/polished next week and the whole engine rebuilt.

Sounds very nice, looking forward to seeing how it looks, I wont be doing anything similar until next winter, when I hope to be going SC, with it mounted in the V and dropping the audi intake.

Although, I bet the intake would look very smart plated or chromed.

I drifted my bearing in with a piece of wood and rubber mallet, it was tight at the end but went in pretty well all in all

Paul Woods
30-03-2010, 18:38
Update pics from my work last weekend, i got loads done, all of the major fuel/vac/servo lines installed on fixed tubing/ P clipped up properly, along with the clutch line.... and the whole bulkhead area where the engine sits has had heat mat bonded to it. It needs a little tidying here and there but the bay is coming on a treat now...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/03/280.jpg

Also my 034motorsport oil gallery adapter came, here it is fitted...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/03/281.jpg

I had to make the heater line bypass assembly pretty much from scratch... i used a pipe with an O ring on it that fits the block snugly, then swung it 90*, stuck a securing bracket onto it and hardpiped it to the original heater line that would normally go into the oil cooler assembly..... i think it has worked out quite well...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/03/282.jpg

PaulM
31-03-2010, 09:08
Neat solution there Paul

Paul Woods
31-03-2010, 18:36
Thanks Paul, there are several ways to do it, i just didn't fancy tapping the block to be honest.

Gouky
31-03-2010, 18:56
are you planning a dyno run with the car when you finish it up?

Paul Woods
31-03-2010, 19:25
Yeah it'll need proper mapping, the current maps are rich as hell so it needs a good dyno session when it's driveable.

PaulM
31-03-2010, 19:37
Out of interest I did a calc on the gear ratios running on 17's with a 45 profile tyre, top speeds in each of the gears are: 51,94,134,204,264,316 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Paul Woods
31-03-2010, 19:40
LOL , holy shit! 94mph in second! Double holy shit 316 mph in sixth!

That cannot be right surely? Salt flats here we come!

PaulM
31-03-2010, 19:55
I thought it wasnt right at first, but because these are mated 2.5 tdi engine its max rpm is about 4.5K. Instead we have 7250.
If it was on the diesel engine it'd be 31 - 58 - 83 - 126 -163 - 196

i guess the extra 3000 rpm makes the difference :)

robwsurf
31-03-2010, 20:50
jesus! think you need lots of aero work on that mk1 if it s going to go anywhere near those speeds!

also will the gearbox need some special higher temp oil in it if running it like that?

Paul Woods
31-03-2010, 20:53
That's a good point rob , might look at a box oil cooler

PaulM
31-03-2010, 21:29
WOuld make sense could fit a nice one under the box itself

Paul Woods
01-04-2010, 07:11
Paul i was thinking about those figures, they kept me awake last night :)

There must be something wrong with the calcs or ratios because a TDi won't do 196mph in 6th gear at max rpm.... now is that because it doesn't have the grunt to get it to max rpm in sixth? They have a claimed top speed of around 143mph according to google?

I know we have excluded aerodynamics, drag etc etc

PaulM
01-04-2010, 09:11
Just thinking about my Jag 2.2D in sixth is 40mph per 1000 rpm, so I guess if it could pull 4500rpm in top that'd be 180mph ( which is cant), if it was on the S8 engine, that would equate to 290 mph.

So I think the numbers are right, its just that the engines wont rev out due to drag etc

biteme
01-04-2010, 10:18
1800rpm in 6th @ 80mph, lol

PaulM
01-04-2010, 10:27
That the beemer JG ?

biteme
01-04-2010, 11:02
Noo ... I was thinking about PW's gears there.

316mph in 6th @ 7250rpm
= 22.94rpm/mph
x 80mph
= 1835rpm

Might even be economical, if there's enough torque at that point to keep the car going? Failing that it's 5th gear, which maxes @ 264, and is thereforr 2200rpm in 5th @ 80mph!

Diesel Meister
01-04-2010, 11:34
Heh - bit long for sports car eh? I guess the engine can pull it though and it will be a traction aid if nothing else!

PaulM
01-04-2010, 12:02
Thinks its something like 200ft/lbs at that rpm

Diesel Meister
01-04-2010, 12:13
I'm not doubting that - it's just the thought of breaking the legal limit in 2nd gear lol

Trip to Germany for a spot of V-Maxing methinks, although as mentioned above, the salt flats or pendine sands might be a better bet....

PaulM
01-04-2010, 13:00
High speed bowl somwhere ??? ...anywhere ???

biteme
01-04-2010, 13:01
MK Bowl? lol

biteme
01-04-2010, 13:02
Thinks its something like 200ft/lbs at that rpm

More than enough then :)

dgh938peg
01-04-2010, 13:28
That's frightening ratios!

Holy F**K!!!! isn't a mr podge using the same box and two turbos!!!! (i know he's on a 1uz)

PaulM
01-04-2010, 17:59
MK Bowl? lol

I like it, see you there!

Paul Woods
01-04-2010, 18:16
I'm still thinking there is something missing from the calcs guys, an Audi A4 TDi won't do 196mph in 6th...

biteme
01-04-2010, 18:18
With a 7250 rpm limit it might - prob a 4500 limit on the diesel.

Paul Woods
01-04-2010, 18:28
But Paul has worked out at 4500 rpm the A4 TDi should be seeing 196mph in 6th, and we know that isn't right.... so the calcs are out somewhere.

Gouky
01-04-2010, 19:01
what are the gear ratios in the transmission?

PaulM
01-04-2010, 19:24
These are they for the 2.5 tdi 3.50 1.89 1.32 0.87 0.67 0.56

Gouky
01-04-2010, 19:38
These are they for the 2.5 tdi 3.50 1.89 1.32 0.87 0.67 0.56

what about the final drive?

Paul Woods
01-04-2010, 19:46
Assuming a 4.1 final drive for the A4 TDi (according to wiki) , i get the following, which seems much more realistic...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/253.jpg

PaulM
01-04-2010, 20:53
Doh and I thoguht the final drive was included in the ratios !

Paul Woods
02-04-2010, 07:23
An easy mistake to make mate, it was the 196mph A4 top speed that made me think.

biteme
02-04-2010, 11:42
Boo. I wanted to see 316mph

Lee
02-04-2010, 12:08
At least you'll be able to use more than 2 gears :)

Have to be a brave man to take your Mk1 on a top speed run, remember my old Mk1 was bit flighty at naughty speeds

Gouky
02-04-2010, 12:14
255/40r17? are you sure you can fit that large of a tire on an MKI?

those speeds in gear look like it should make for a very drivable car.

Paul Woods
02-04-2010, 18:34
My wide arch kit allows any width wheel/tyre marc, i've got 5" wide arches on this thing!

Today i got the heads torqued down, and the cams refitted... all a bit alien to me working on Audi stuff after so many years of Toyota engines but they are beautifully engineered. My cam covers are also painted, i've gone for a stock Toyota Mk2 shade...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/254.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/255.jpg

Also if anyone has lost their pet monkey can you please reclaim it, seems to answer to the name J.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/256.jpg

jevansio
02-04-2010, 19:29
It really is a work of art, although I can't help but remind you about the port matching and will continue to do so until I get bored :D

Paul Woods
03-04-2010, 09:19
You ain't got no legs lieutenant dan :)

Paul Woods
05-04-2010, 17:41
Today was spent detailing more engine parts and fitting more new gaskets/seals.

I have spent so much time detailing now that i have decided to leave the plastic engine covers off permanently.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/257.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/258.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/259.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/260.jpg

If you look carefully you can see my homemade camshaft locking tools in the rear shots, i am just waiting for my modified crank pulley to come back (new trigger set up) and the timing belt can go back on for good.

PaulM
05-04-2010, 18:28
Are keeping the option for cruise control Paul ? Looking very tidy, how was it painting the magnesium

MRV6
05-04-2010, 18:29
Today was spent detailing more engine parts and fitting more new gaskets/seals.

I have spent so much time detailing now that i have decided to leave the plastic engine covers off permanently.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

If you look carefully you can see my homemade camshaft locking tools in the rear shots, i am just waiting for my modified crank pulley to come back (new trigger set up) and the timing belt can go back on for good.

Hmmm starting to look good mate, I like the colours. Is that a homemade camshaft locking tool I spy??

Paul Woods
05-04-2010, 18:43
Yeah Paul i will keep the cruise motor there for now, might be a project for the future that one. The magnesium painted fine, just wire brushed it, primed it and light coats of paint.

Have you seen the audi "tvis system" ? My god i couldn't believe that thing! it runs the entire length of the plenum and looks like my mums old tumble dryer! Whip yours off and have a look if you haven't already, it's a right laugh!

Plasticgeordie2007
05-04-2010, 19:23
That is a work of art Paul.

Diesel Meister
05-04-2010, 21:19
Lovely stuff Paul - any idea of the first show for this? Hope to snatch a peek when I'm up but it will be even better to see the finished result / blag a passenger ride :thumbsup:

Paul Woods
06-04-2010, 06:47
I am going all out to try and have it done for JAE, but i honestly don't know mate.

Diesel Meister
06-04-2010, 08:27
Fair play - bit of an undertaking after all lol

Will be worth it though!

Paul Woods
07-04-2010, 21:26
My engine detailing is now completed, i refurbed the top cover which looks spot on.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/262.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/263.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/264.jpg

Also my transmission is now fully cleaned and painted, Anth mixed this metallic shade specially for it.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/34.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/265.jpg

Plasticgeordie2007
07-04-2010, 21:43
looks great

Diesel Meister
07-04-2010, 21:45
*Swoon*

That is Minty Mc Minterton. Spafftastic in fact.

I think you might juuuuust have a few issues with over crowding when this debuts at a show. Nothing a huge prod of the throttle won't clear though lol

loadswine
07-04-2010, 22:29
Absolutely cracking!

snowtigger
07-04-2010, 22:37
cleeeeeeeeeenex time.

hmmmmm
07-04-2010, 22:44
That looks awesome, clean build, fantastic colours!

stevehall
07-04-2010, 23:26
Looking good Paul.

Paul Woods
07-04-2010, 23:28
Thanks folks, feels like it is getting somewhere now.

biteme
07-04-2010, 23:29
Looks gorgeous

hmmmmm
07-04-2010, 23:33
That metallic paint on the gearbox is also pretty cool, looks like youve got a part of the deathstar in youre car :)

MRV6
08-04-2010, 00:27
Paula that looks spot on mate. No but seriously the engine looks the dogs and the photos of the gearbox just don't do it justice, I like the paint colour. Pity Anth didn't mix a couple of gallons of it. Then again you prolly asked for pink!

Clarky_X
09-04-2010, 07:22
Paul, that gearbox colour is like chrome silk. I know you are doing the car supra silver, but that seems so tame now I've seen that gearbox. Surely you want to reconsider the shell colour, the gearbox looks so special it would be a shame to hide it away, get it on the outside.

Paul Woods
09-04-2010, 07:39
Yes it's a gorgeous colour, it is actually made up with mostly supra quicksilver with a hint of blue and green thrown in but it is the predominant quicksilver that is making it look so good. I've yet to find another colour that does it for me like quicksilver does.

Spook
09-04-2010, 08:26
I love that Deathstar colour!

Cars that have (designer intended) creases in their bodies tend to look great in metalic greys of any hue, due to the way they reflect light in our northern climate. Car companies based in the north have known that for years.

That colour (speaking just about the colour) will probably look much better on a mk1 than the Supra, just because of its body creases.

For me I think the mk2 is really suited to blue or white, so am looking for one in those colours. Of course if you think black or red is your favourite then thats what you will prefer, just talking about how getting the colourr right can absolutely make the car.

I dont know if painting brings out the artist in you Paul (space for one of Johnny's jokes here!) but Ive noticed in your detailing an eye for colour and really appreciate it.

Clarky_X
09-04-2010, 17:29
Well I am a fan of the Nissan 350z grey that has been used to good effect on a mk1 before and will be looking to get the mat black one resprayed next year, but I may have to go a shade lighter once I've seen your box in the flesh Paul. :ghey:blush::

Paul Woods
09-04-2010, 19:47
Thanks Spook, we do have a bit of hidden artistic flair i think (or is it autistic?).

The box is actually a totally different shade to the pics, the camera flash is bouncing off the metal flake and pearls making it look much lighter than it actually is.

Garbe
10-04-2010, 12:48
Thats looking great, now get in in that bay and fired up!

Paul Woods
11-04-2010, 10:17
I have started work on the transmission tunnel, galvanised plates welded in and seam sealed, this area is what's left of my boot, so i will paint it and carpet it out.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/269.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/270.jpg

snowtigger
11-04-2010, 12:50
overnight bag and a packet of hob nobs, still it's bigger than a mk3's luggage space mate so look on the bright side.

plus this is looking great paul final home streach.

Paul Woods
13-04-2010, 18:59
I addressed the exhaust "box" venting today, the plan is to seal what boot/trunk i have left off completely from the engine bay and provide the exhaust area with lots of venting, so lots of cold air in and hot air out.

I have grafted in some Mk2 NA engine lid vents directly above the exhaust box area, and i will be making a new sealing surface for the rubber trim that will go around the edge of the box.... this still needs a lot of work but you can see what i am trying to do.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/272.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/104.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/273.jpg

It will look a lot better blended in and painted.

hmmmmm
13-04-2010, 19:05
Good idea, using the mk2 vents. Are you going to run a back wing?

Gary Symons
13-04-2010, 19:10
Neat, you can cook burgers on the vents now lol

Paul Woods
13-04-2010, 19:13
LOL , FFS gary everyone is going to call this a v8 BBQ now! twat! :) Damn it really does look like a BBQ grill now you mention it...

I am going with the stock Mk1 rear spoiler, one part of the car i would like to retain as standard, Toyota got that bit spot on for me.

Gary Symons
13-04-2010, 19:25
lol it looks fine mate!

hmmmmm
13-04-2010, 19:30
Look paul, they already built you're car/bbq :), its got a V8 and everything!
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_YosKYON5WSA/S8S7EeZiBrI/AAAAAAAAAjw/0HxPDp72YjI/barbeque001.jpg

snowtigger
13-04-2010, 21:07
Cuppa tea two sugars and some toasted crumpets please, you could put one of those rear luggage racks like an mx5 has on the boot and keep your take away warm.

Just been looking on the dvla reg site and you maybe in luck V 8 BBQ.

Nod
14-04-2010, 12:37
My Multi Screen Display system will be compatible with the VEMS ecu (Just FYI ;) )

Lyndon.

dgh938peg
14-04-2010, 12:39
Shameless plug Lyndon! :D

Nod
14-04-2010, 13:36
Well ,I couldn't leave Paul out when Johnny starts pimping the set interfaced to his Syvecs :D

It will also work with DTA (PaulM ;) :) :D)

Lyndon.

snowtigger
14-04-2010, 14:39
Ooooo lambo reventon flip display would be uber cool.

PaulM
14-04-2010, 16:10
Any picies Lyndon ?


Nice to see Paul has the main cooking grill sorted and with an MX5 rack, he's also go the keep warm level sorted too.

Pure genius

chris99
15-04-2010, 15:21
Awesome work as always Paul. Going to be an interesting car to drive i think

Paul Woods
15-04-2010, 18:46
Yes it should be a new underwear type experience chris!

Today i got my new crank 60-2 trigger wheel and adapter boss back from the total legend that is Adamh of AH-CNC.... check out the attention to detail...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/274.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/275.jpg

The man is god when it comes to engineering work like this.

Also i got my timing belt fitted and aligned, they are tricky belts to fit due to the floating cam pulleys with no keyway!

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/276.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/277.jpg

OlberJ
15-04-2010, 19:06
I've just realised these are SOHC!

Plasticgeordie2007
15-04-2010, 19:09
I was at Pauls today and had a lok at this. The pictures do not do it justice it is a real work of art.

OlberJ
15-04-2010, 19:15
Ah, no, not SOHC, just the inlet cams are locked to the exhaust cams?

snowtigger
15-04-2010, 20:36
that is fkin gobsmakingly gorgeous machine work there mr adamh of cnc god, i wish i had a tenth of your skill mate that is defoe the dogs danglys.

hmmmmm
15-04-2010, 20:48
Whoa.. that is some very nice attention to detail! Respect da skillzz and all that :)

Paul Woods
16-04-2010, 07:06
Ah, no, not SOHC, just the inlet cams are locked to the exhaust cams?

It's just like the v6 olie, one cam drives the other, except there is a small chain between the two cams instead of helical cogs.

Paul Woods
22-04-2010, 18:12
Another first for Mk1's here, i am running very big wheels on this car (for obvious reasons) and as a result some power steering would be a very nice option to have. I retro fitted a Mk1 years ago with a Mk2 system with all of its rack, pump, control systems etc etc, which worked but was all pretty heavy and i couldn't fine tune it. So this time around i have gone for a completely different approach.

Quite a few modern cars these days use an electric motor on the column to give a variable amount of power steering so i bought a Vauxhall Corsa column with this sort of setup and then proceeded to make a hybrid Mr2/Corsa steering column.

The lower half of this column is Corsa, the top half is Mr2, this means i can retain ALL of the Mr2 switchgear, my ignition barrel, the cowling, and even the adjustable rake will all work as before.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/286.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/287.jpg

The icing on the cake with this mod is that there is an adjustable regulator box that plugs into the Corsa PS ECU, this is then mounted on the dash and i can control wether the system is completely turned off (will just feel like a normal Mr2 steering) or any amount of assistance can be dialled in right up to full assistance.

Now before anyone gets excited about the prospect of having power steering on their Mk1 i must stress i have other mods to do to the tube framing around the steering column on my mk1 so that this assembly will fit, so it is never going to be a kit i can offer unless your car is brought to me for surgery.

So i now have the worlds only PS equipped Mk1.... not that the V8 made it unique!

Diesel Meister
22-04-2010, 18:36
Niiiice :thumbsup:

adamh
22-04-2010, 18:44
pretty cool, looks like a worm and wheel mech from here, does that mean two halves of the shaft are seperate?

Paul Woods
22-04-2010, 18:51
The lower half of the column (corsa half) has a splined exit shaft, the top half of the column is sleeved and welded, the two are joined together with a splined sleeve that fits the Mk1 column and the Corsa splined shaft. For good measure i also welded the two halves even though there were splines doing the job. It is amazing that you can take Vauxhall parts and use them on a 25 year old Mr2.

Diesel Meister
22-04-2010, 18:54
Amazing is one word - spooky would be another lol

So how many manufacturers have contributed to the MR8 so far? Mister T, The VAG (*chuckle*) and now The General. This car has enough nationailites to enjoy the home field advantage irrespective of continent or time zone!

Paul Woods
22-04-2010, 19:09
Chassis by Toyota
Engine / gearbox by Audi
PS by Vauxhall
Wheels by BMW
Front brake calipers by Porsche
Braided brake lines by Renault
Suspension springs by Mazda
Exhaust by TVR
Fuel filler assembly by Fiat

Probably a few others i can't remember!

Gouky
22-04-2010, 19:11
Chassis by Toyota
Engine / gearbox by Audi
PS by Vauxhall
Wheels by BMW
Front brake calipers by Porsche
Braided brake lines by Renault
Suspension springs by Mazda
Exhaust by TVR
Fuel filler assembly by Fiat

Probably a few others i can't remember!

as soon as you break the axle shafts... drive flanges by Frankenstein Motorworks :)

Paul Woods
22-04-2010, 19:15
Absolutely, i'll need a 4x100 conversion on those Frankenhubs too, definately the next stage in its development.

Gouky
22-04-2010, 19:16
Absolutely, i'll need a 4x100 conversion on those Frankenhubs too, definately the next stage in its development.

that's kind of a pain, but i can probably do that for you :)

they've even been track tested now! :)

Paul Woods
22-04-2010, 19:27
And Woodsport tested :)

snowtigger
22-04-2010, 19:51
Cough cough wallet rape, power steering, big wheels cough cough old man.

OlberJ
22-04-2010, 22:26
Do the wheels steer in the right direction? :mrgreen:

Paul Woods
23-04-2010, 07:17
Piss off you :) (goes off to check)

podge
23-04-2010, 08:53
haha great minds or was it two fools never differ cant remember which same steering setup im using on mine paul

podge
23-04-2010, 08:55
oh ye i would have loved to be a fly on the wall that day to see your face when the steering went the wrong way lol

jevansio
26-04-2010, 18:51
Hope Paul doesn't mind, took these when I was down there

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/228.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/229.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/230.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/231.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/232.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/233.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/234.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/235.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/04/236.jpg

wardie
26-04-2010, 18:56
ooh, absolutely loverly photos, of a loverly engine! did you tilt shift theses? or are my eyes tilt shifted tonight???

Paul Woods
26-04-2010, 19:42
Cracking pics Jay, very artistic mate! Fancy doing a video of a 2gr Mk1 going sideways tomorrow?

decipherer
26-04-2010, 21:31
Fantastic looking engine that Paul, great work! And I really like the steering column conversion, I never knew power steering could be so 'simple'.

jevansio
27-04-2010, 08:05
It was taken with a 50mm f1.8 lense Wardie, not tilt shift, just a really shallow depth of field

Maybe Paul, see what doc says today :)

Moustachio
27-04-2010, 11:41
Awesome pics, almost a shame to hide it away in a car.... almost... ;)

nik
01-05-2010, 16:36
It was taken with a 50mm f1.8 lense Wardie, not tilt shift, just a really shallow depth of field

Maybe Paul, see what doc says today :)

lovely v8 sexyness..my f1.8 50mm prime for the 500D was the best £50 i have ever spent, cracking little lenses..

Paul Woods
03-05-2010, 16:26
Seeing as today was a bank holiday naturally means it's V8 time! I get so little time to work on this project that bank holidays are a blessing.

Todays mission was to make an alternator bracket and adjuster from scratch. I started by cutting the mounting point off a 4age alternator bracket, just the pivot point part. I then made an angle iron piece that bolted onto the top two block holes, aligned the mounting bracket so the alternator was square to the crank pulley and tack welded it on.

Then made a lower section on the bottom two block holes as a support for the top bracket. Here is the completed alt bracket...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/9.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/213.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/214.jpg

I also made a lower adjusting bar, nothing flashy, just a slotted bar with a 90* bend in it and pivoting off the block.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/215.jpg

I have a brand new Mk1 alternator that i've been saving for a rainy day.... well today it rained :)

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/216.jpg

The completed alternator assembly... everyone's happy!

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/217.jpg

Just for giggles, here is my v8 next to a 1mz-fe....

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/218.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/219.jpg

adamh
03-05-2010, 17:02
that is a very broad looking engine!. eta on this running paul?

Paul Woods
03-05-2010, 17:12
I'm hoping the car will be driveable before the end of this summer mate.

Garbe
03-05-2010, 18:15
That bracket looks stock, and you need to get the engine back in and running before the end of summer - V8 naughtyness in wet miseable weather ain't good.

snowtigger
03-05-2010, 19:07
I wish I was out doing my car, rather than decorating the living room and computer room and bedroom's.

Paul Woods
03-05-2010, 19:19
I think a V8 Mk1 is going to be naughty in the dry Hasad! :)

Tiggs you just do a good job of the house and leave the car to me mate :)

wardie
03-05-2010, 19:25
Are any of the political party's promising more bank holidays? if so they would get my vote! just so i can see this on the road! such a awesome build Paul!

Paul Woods
03-05-2010, 19:29
Cheers mate, i plan to get as much done during the good weather this year as possible, so by October time i'm hoping to have a painted car with everything mechanical sorted... that will have made this a 2 year build (although 6 months of it was V6!)

Moustachio
04-05-2010, 12:42
ooo... is that my 1mz? ;)

Great pics of the two together :)

Nice modding on the bracket, very clean job.

Paul Woods
04-05-2010, 17:59
It is indeed, it won't be on the stand for very long now though :)

Garbe
04-05-2010, 20:35
It may well be October Paul, but this one is definately gonna be the wait -3SGTE into a MK1- Naaaaah - V6 into a MK1 naaahh - how about a fu*k off V8. Ohhhh to be able to time travel.

Rosssco
05-05-2010, 22:19
Looks like a solid cube of power there Paul.!! But surprisingly compact in comparision to a 'normal' V6... I now fully understand why the Audi V8 can't be used in a transverse arrangement though - It's pretty wide from the sump up isn't it! You must be looking at near 50/50 weight distribution upon completion too, perfect..

Paul Woods
06-05-2010, 07:30
Yeah the one thing i think will work out well is the weight distribution, i know i am adding a good slab of weight to the car compared to stock so getting it more central is vital.... not so good for wheelies though :)

Diesel Meister
06-05-2010, 14:40
Weight looks nice and central - I think that will definitely benefit the handling :thumbsup:

Paul Woods
08-05-2010, 16:48
It doesn't look like i did a lot here today but progress all the same. I made my hardpipe heater lines that go around the engine bay, i could have just slung rubber going from the engine all the way to the matrix at the front but that is not how Toyota do things and i like to copy their way of doing things as much as possible. That is household copper piping, it was the only thing i could find that would let me add bends in all the right places and form the pipework to contour the bay ( and no i'm not going to be fitting a combi boiler in the frunk! :) )

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/220.jpg

I have also cut off the old V6 engine mounts and i'm not far away from getting the engine bay painted and engine rehung for the final time.

nik
08-05-2010, 17:28
is there any issue with using copper pipes and antifreeze? just thinking about corrosion in the long term.

snowtigger
08-05-2010, 17:40
What were they originaly mild steel or some other amalgam metal. I think thick walled copper can take 2 to 4 bar pressure easy and some anti freeze have rust inhibitors so shouldn't be a problem.
Just leaky joints unless your a dab hand at soldering.
Not far now eh Paul (probably the biggest understatement there could ever be) just get it working and down to jae mate the cosmetic shit you can leave to later, personaly I don't care if it's painted battleship gay, I think we all want to see this thing in the flesh, and on the other hand I can understand you wanting it to look the dogs nads but even in it's rough state this thing looks awesome.

nik
08-05-2010, 17:45
Automotive Radiators Motor vehicle radiators made of copper are often used with an ethytene glycol, i.e., antifreeze, and water solution as the coolant. Although commercial antifreeze and coolant solutions always contain an corrosion inhibitor, these inhibitors do not last indeftitely. Therefore, the solutions should be renewed or fresh inhibitor should be added periodically because copper can be significantly corroded by uninhibited ethylene glycol and water solutions at the usual operating temperatures.

from the interweb somewhere..

Gouky
08-05-2010, 17:46
the corrosion inhibitors can be refreshed without replacing the coolant. look into diesel engine corrosion inhibitors.

Paul Woods
08-05-2010, 18:57
Nah tiggs, i want its first outing to be in all its glory, i could have had it running in a shit state months ago but i want to do this once and right.... it has taken 2 years to get to this point so i don't want to rush it now mate. The end result should be a reflection of how long it has taken though, that's the plan anyway!

Good shout on the rust inhibitor, i hadn't given the copper pipework any thought in that regard.

snowtigger
08-05-2010, 19:16
Have a look at water wetter as well mate does a good job of making the molecules of the water better for heat transfer on alloy engines.

They do have a corrosion inhibitor at b and q for combi boilers, I normaly put a 70/30 mix of water to anti freeze +rust inhibitor for the summer and 50/50 for winter, in the car not the boiler that just gets flushed and refilled once a year.

NZ84vvt
08-05-2010, 21:44
Should be no problems with copper as in the not so distant past all radiators were made in copper and brass now mainly plastic and Al
The SW20 has a mix of copper brass and stainless steel in its heating /cooling system.

Paul Woods
09-05-2010, 10:18
Cool, thanks for that.

stevehall
09-05-2010, 10:47
It depends which coolant you use, if I remember correctly, the old (usually blue) antifreeze is from an age where copper was common and is fine with it so long as it is changed when it should. The modern coolants (OATS inhibitors, usually red) is not compatible with copper.

BSM
09-05-2010, 13:23
What model year is the Corsa column off Paul? I might come across the odd one here and there....

Paul Woods
09-05-2010, 14:47
I'm not sure mate, they all seem to be the same on Ebay... any of the electro assisted ones will work i think.

Paul Woods
15-05-2010, 20:47
Today saw a little more progress, i got my new spigot fitted to the flywheel, had to travel to the Audi dealership for that little part, it was very expensive as well!

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/229.jpg

Also got my battery cable fitted, i'm front mounting the battery to even out the weight a little.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/230.jpg

Biggest job today was sorting out my new fuel filler assembly and pipework, nothing clipped up properly but everything fits, so just the cosmetics to do on this and its finished.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/231.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/232.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/233.jpg

Just need to paint the bay now and the engine is back in.

Jiff Lemon
16-05-2010, 00:39
That filler cap will look VERY familiar to old skool readers of TB:icon_mrgreen:

snowtigger
16-05-2010, 01:42
fiat barcheta i presume hmmmm very familair.

Paul Woods
16-05-2010, 07:41
Fiat 20v coupe filler cap, one of the mods from Lilys build.

OlberJ
16-05-2010, 10:08
Is the top half of that an old intercooler top pipe?

Paul Woods
16-05-2010, 10:19
Yes it is.

snowtigger
16-05-2010, 10:47
It's a lovely mod but I prefer the flush fit bike style, I may mod the side filler to put an air intake in the future and then a bike petrol flush filler cap on the same place as yours.

Just a quick question after a long run in my mk1 when the tanks nearly empty and I go to fill up, is it supposed to suck the air out the tank as when I try and remove the cap there's a whoosh of air that rushes into the tank it's like it's created a vacum inside is this normal?

adamh
16-05-2010, 11:47
brilliant work on that front member.. i love that filler cap mod again its the perfect way to force some more air in

OlberJ
16-05-2010, 13:22
Just a quick question after a long run in my mk1 when the tanks nearly empty and I go to fill up, is it supposed to suck the air out the tank as when I try and remove the cap there's a whoosh of air that rushes into the tank it's like it's created a vacum inside is this normal?

Yep, no vac canister on a Mk1. The a's seem to be worse for it and you end up with the fumes in the cabin some times.

Diesel Meister
16-05-2010, 19:09
Not after Paul's done with 'em though ol :thumbsup:

Looking hood. I mean mean. Er....

:icon_lol:

Can't wait to see first drive vid of this. I think the rev limiter might be getting more of a work out than mine did. As will Paul's underkecks!

Paul Woods
18-05-2010, 07:04
I have done a lot of work to the rear crossmember and added trusses to the sides of the pickup points for the subframe, this triangulation will give a lot more strength in a key area....

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/234.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/235.jpg

Also i took advice from an engineer on another forum and beefed up my alternator pivot bracket and added a manual tensioner at the same time....

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/236.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/237.jpg

I'm now a lick of paint away from refitting the engine and transmission.

Goldy
21-05-2010, 13:24
Keep up the good work paul!

snowtigger
21-05-2010, 13:55
Cmon Paul a few licks of paint and this amazing machine should look the dogs nads.

Paul Woods
21-05-2010, 18:13
Cheers chaps, i'm getting there.

My suspension subframe, gearbox subframe and air filter housing have all been shot blasted and painted.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/124.jpg

Paul Woods
23-05-2010, 17:44
Mega update today, i think i got more done today than any other day i've worked on the car, the weather was nice, i got left in peace and just cracked on with it.... so much for resting on the Sabbath!

Anyway i got the engine bay repainted, Supra Quicksilver of course, the colour the car is going to be when it's finished, and immediately hung the freshly overhauled V8....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/132.jpg

As you can see i fitted the flywheel and new clutch assembly as well.

Not long after that the gearbox went on as well as the gearbox subframe and the new suspension subframe...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/246.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/247.jpg

I made a mounting point for my oil filter relocation kit which also has my oil temp and oil pressure senders on it...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/248.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/249.jpg

The air intake pipework went back on for the final time, still a few clips to add here....

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/250.jpg

Gearshift assembly refitted... i'm very happy with the outcome of this linkage, it just works really well.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/251.jpg

Someone advised me to add a gusset to this area, now that my subframe is back on i can see i have space for that, so i will add one shortly...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/252.jpg

I then plumbed everything up and added lots of finishing touches...

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/253.jpg

No self respecting Mk1 V8 would be complete without a Jimi bracket now would it....

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/254.jpg

The bay as it looks now, just the exhaust to rehang, add heatproofing here and there, and finish the boot off....

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/255.jpg

Right i need a beer, been on this thing since 6am.

Rowdan
23-05-2010, 18:16
Gwan my son :eusa_clap:

(I believe that's a suitable colloquialism)

Paul Woods
23-05-2010, 18:20
LOL , this thing had better be worth it Row, i've got the national debt of lithuania tied up in it now :)

Rowdan
23-05-2010, 18:27
It will be Paul, I've never seen you at JAE with a Mk1. Would be nice if It happens while we can both get in and out of one...and in my case the clock is ticking. :eusa_shhh:

PaulM
23-05-2010, 19:08
Very nicely done mr woods

adamh
23-05-2010, 19:46
the happy ball comes out today!.. thats how to do it.

Gary Symons
23-05-2010, 20:48
nice work paul :thumbsup:

BSM
23-05-2010, 22:35
Nice one that man, now we want this car at JAE this year.....that is a gauntlet I just threw down young man!!!!

If I can get KYT done...you can finish this

BSM
23-05-2010, 22:35
Oh yeah and move house mid june too!!

Me and Jo that is not you!!

jimi
24-05-2010, 03:12
It's coming along nicely Paul :thumbsup:

I'm honoured that you even thought of putting one of my brackets on your V8 :biggrin:
if you want one with custom lettering on it let me know.
FOC of course, be my pleasure

Paul Woods
24-05-2010, 06:46
Thanks chaps! Jimi the bracket isn't actually doing anything, i couldn't make it hold the cable due to the silly angle an audi cable enters the throttle assembly but i just had to get it on there somehow, it's my honour to have that on there mate. Thanks for the offer of a custom one bud, i like the original one though, just not the original engine it was nailed to lol

Si, i can't get it done by JAE mate, too much bodywork and other stuff to do yet mate... but let's see what happens, a few more days like yesterday and it might not be far off.

Clarky_X
24-05-2010, 07:43
And you still found time to answer my emails. You da man.

I thought that was another gauntlet about moving house. Oh yeah and you can get married and have kids too :-)

I too will be at JAE hoping to see this running. I was at Rushden powerfest on sat. (Santa pod opening street fair demo) and thought, I want a v8 again now, all that noisy yank muscle and drama was fun. Would have been so cool to see a mk1 v8 street sleeper in there mixing it up.

Garbe
24-05-2010, 08:35
Asbo-fucking-lutely fantastic - How long till we see some video of this beast tearing up the tarmac?

Huub
24-05-2010, 08:55
Wow!!! I did not check this forum for a while...very nice progress on this project Paul :D. I think the finished product is gonna be pretty amazing :eek2:

hmmmmm
24-05-2010, 15:03
:brill:

When can we expect the first second start up vid?

snowtigger
24-05-2010, 15:10
All ready been and gone the first start up vid, this is the second time finalization and finish install then a full respray and all the niggles jobs then with fingers crossed and no one mithering him all weekend we just may see this beast up and running for jae.

Paul Woods
24-05-2010, 18:21
Yep if i batter into the bodywork it might just be ready, lets see how it goes.

I noticed my oil filter relocation kit ran fairly close to the exhaust on the right hand bank, so i was just about to start making a shield for it when i found a spare Apexi air filter polished cover and would you believe it bolted right onto the filter housing with the two attachment bolts being in exactly the right place!

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/256.jpg

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2010/05/257.jpg

I love it when you just pick something up sometimes and it just works.

cosmos2
24-05-2010, 18:51
I think you need a membership for thishttp://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz117/rx8meister/luckybastardsclub.gif

cosmos2
24-05-2010, 18:57
P.S very nice work so far looking forward to seeing it finished.

Paul Woods
24-05-2010, 18:59
Why is the logo of the lucky bastards club a geeky nerd with no chin and just been kicked out of his house? Not very lucky is he? :)

snowtigger
24-05-2010, 19:08
He's got no wife to nag or mither him about painting decorating or the kids,I count that as lucky.

Paul Woods
29-05-2010, 15:21
I had her fired back up today and swapped the trigger assembly for the new Ford VR front pulley mount setup. Immediately i noticed it starting easier and there are no trigger errors at all so far. Looks like the Deltavag flywheel trigger strip playing games, caused me no end of grief that has..... still at least it looks like it's sorted!

Paff
04-06-2010, 13:24
Nice going Paul.

I don't get online much these days but when I do its good to see the interesting projects are moving along nicely :)

Paul Woods
04-06-2010, 17:55
Cheers Paffey! Now get your little Welsh arse home for JAE.

Paff
04-06-2010, 22:33
afraid I can't do that, still got too much to do here. Besides i don't have a working mr2 and once I do get back won't be able to afford to fix it.

Paul Woods
05-06-2010, 19:52
Today i got my driveshafts fitted, and exhaust back on the car, then to discover with all the cranking i've been doing lately i've burnt my starter motor out.... go me.

So i need to get a new starter before i can progress.

snowtigger
05-06-2010, 20:20
Doh homer moment.

This week the transit starter motor burnt out not because of using it too much, but because of iron filings from the crap ford idea of a dual mass flywheel, which grinds itself to bits then destroys the starter so new solid flywheel new clutch new starter £600 the liter in the wallet.

Oh the other thing is new transits can't be bump or tow started as the immobiliser gets a speed signal and kills the engine, unless your a clever barsteward like me and roll it backwards down a hill and start the diesel up in reverse gear then handbrake turn it so it's going the right way, bypasses the immobiliser hahar.

adamh
07-06-2010, 22:13
these things were sent to test... progressing well!

Paul Woods
12-06-2010, 17:27
Spent the day sorting a few issues i was having, the starter motor turned out to be fine, i had poor earthing and a crap battery to blame, it now cranks over fine. Also a word of warning when using an oil filter relocation kit, some filters (in my case a Volvo 440 one on my car) have an inbuilt one way valve on them. Now most filters can be plumbed up in either direction but i was suffering oil starvation because my filter has an inbuilt check valve (must be there to stop oil draining away from the filter). Anyway that issue was quickly spotted and cured.

The rest of the day was spent messing around with the Vems maps to get it running better and although there is still a lot of work to do in this area it now starts within 3 seconds and idles nicely.

Gouky
12-06-2010, 17:36
i'm glad you spotted that early. I've ruined a motor that way before. it's disturbing how a motor that is dying because the cam isn't getting oil feels.

Paul Woods
12-06-2010, 17:49
Yeah i was lucky to spot it, i ran the engine for a few minutes and it just didn't sound as quiet as it did before (top end noisy), so when i took the outlet off the oil filter it was dry! Thankfully it looks like i got away with it.

Gouky
12-06-2010, 18:02
how far are you from driving it around?

Paul Woods
12-06-2010, 18:13
I need to hardwire the engine into the car, i'm still starting it off a battery on the floor, and i need a braking system, apart from that i could drive it just about.

Paul Woods
13-06-2010, 17:56
I've given the 1" brake MC stuff its own thread cos it really deserves it http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?17622-1-Brake-master-cylinder-upgrade

Paul Woods
14-06-2010, 19:17
Another video of this thing running, my iphone just doesn't capture the sheer thunder coming from it, i'm VERY close now to being able to drive it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poHQGv75vBQ

adamh
14-06-2010, 19:49
it sounds a whole better than any mr2 i heard!

snowtigger
14-06-2010, 19:49
another great down load to go into my utube folder, shes looking good keep up the good work paul, not long till jae mate get a move on with that color and stop fireing her up your making the rest of us green with envy.

PaulM
14-06-2010, 19:57
How does the new clutch fit Paul

OlberJ
14-06-2010, 22:35
If it sounds anything like this on the road, i'd be a happy bunny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmkOjyGDm-U

Paul Woods
16-06-2010, 18:10
Final finishing off in the engine bay now, i have wrapped my silencer in aluminiumized glass mat in an effort to help keep heat under control....

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/06/56.jpg

I've also used sticky backed reflective foil on the side walls, this will also go on the rear aluminium wall when that gets fitted...

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/06/57.jpg

How effective will all of this heatproofing be? I honestly don't know, but it's got to be better than nothing.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2010/06/58.jpg

loadswine
16-06-2010, 18:43
That looks unbelievably good! :thumbsup:

Paul Woods
16-06-2010, 18:54
Cheers Nigella :)

nik
16-06-2010, 19:30
omg..you just cant beat the burble of a v8 in my book, and that growl is seriously arousing..
i want one..!!

Goldy
16-06-2010, 19:31
Looks great there! Its temptingly close.... just please don't decide to do anything else major to it (roof chop / supercharger / quad turbo) before you get to drive it!