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Thread: mk1.6 transmissions and driveshafts

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    mk1.6 transmissions+driveshafts & tranny+flywheel+clutch combos

    Alright, i think we need to have one of these threads for the mk 1.6.
    For the 3vz-fe and the 1mz-fe swaps into the mk1 mr2 there are these options available.
    EDIT: updated 5/15/09

    Transmissions and Driveshafts

    E153-Non LSD-
    -ST185 Front Driveshafts with v6 auto output shaft.*/**
    -Mk2 turbo non lsd shafts with st185 outer CV joints (partsinabox number OJ-0220/30) and mk2 turbo supported shaft.**
    -Mk1 SC shafts (non supported set up)

    e153-LSD- (going to need a mk2 rev1 mechanical speedo drive,or a mk1 SC one)
    -mk2 lsd drive shafts with st185 outer CV joints (partsinabox number OJ-0220/30)**
    -Two left side Mk1 SC shafts bolted to mk2 turbo LSD output stubs **
    -st185 shafts bolted to mk2 LSD output stub on the left side and v6 auto supported shaft on the right side.*/**

    s54-(with LSD or not)(either late rev5 mk2 box or non LSD box fitted with mk3 LSD) and non LSD
    -Mk2 NA shafts
    -Any 3sge engined celica shafts,these use a supported shaft and will need a bearing carrier bracket making
    -Mk3 shafts,again a supported type and will need a bearing carrier bracket making.


    *Anything using an st185 driveshaft with camry v6 auto supported shaft will have a different engine location (sitting about 20mm further to the right) due to the left shaft needing more space to fit.The v6 jigs out there are configured for a mk2 turbo or mk2 NA shaft placement)

    **All E153 onto either 3vz or 1mz engines will require the carrier bearing moving 4mm towards the diff on the supported shaft.


    Transmissions, Clutches and Flywheels
    Note: 8 flywheel bolts (part 90105-10207 from your dealer, really cheap), they are mk1 NA flywheel bolts

    e-153 Turbo tranny (LSD or not)
    -Modified Turbo Flywheel(elongate the holes) and complete turbo clutch
    -3vz-fe or 1mz-fe flywheel and complete turbo clutch

    s54
    -a fidanza flywheel (Part#130881) and a turbo pressure plate and an N/A friction plate
    -a 5sfe flywheel that must be machined then a N/A pressure and N/A friction plate
    -a 3vz-fe manual flywheel with Turbo pressure plate and a N/A friction plate
    -Mk2 N/A flywheel and complete Mk2 N/A clutch.
    Last edited by nik; 17-07-2019 at 19:14. Reason: Updating and adding more information
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    1995 BMW 318ti - the 3vz swap funds - to be sold

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    E153-Non LSD-
    - ST185 ends with v6 auto output shaft.
    - ST185 ends with tubby output shafts.
    - Mk1 Supercharger short and long shaft.

    e153-LSD-
    - Mk2 tubby lsd drive shafts and ST185 ends.

    s54
    - Mk2 N/A long and short shaft.
    - Celica supported long shaft and short shaft.

    S54 with LSD
    - Mk2 N/A long and short shaft.
    - Celica supported long and short shaft.

    They ALL need the Rev1 Mechanical speedo drive OR a nifty electric to mechanical convertor. :)

    Not sure if the Mk1 S/C's ever came with LSD? If so i think those may be able to be used with the tubby LSD box.

    There's also the manual Camry box that can be used but we'll need some friends from across the pond to clarify that one.

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    E153-Non LSD-
    -ST185 Front Driveshafts with v6 auto output shaft.*/**
    -Mk2 turbo non lsd shafts with st185 outer CV joints (partsinabox number OJ-0220/30) and mk2 turbo supported shaft.**
    -Mk1 SC shafts (non supported set up)
    e153-LSD- (going to need a mk2 rev1 mechanical speedo drive,or a mk1 SC one)
    -mk2 lsd drive shafts with st185 outer CV joints (partsinabox number OJ-0220/30)**
    -Two left side Mk1 SC shafts bolted to mk2 turbo LSD output stubs **
    -st185 shafts bolted to mk2 LSD output stub on the left side and v6 auto supported shaft on the right side.*/**
    s54-LSD(either late rev5 mk2 box or non LSD box fitted with mk3 LSD) and non LSD
    -Mk2 NA shafts
    -Any 3sge engined celica shafts,these use a supported shaft and will need a bearing carrier bracket making
    -Mk3 shafts,again a supported type and will need a bearing carrier bracket making.


    *Anything using an st185 driveshaft with camry v6 auto supported shaft will have a different engine location (sitting about 20mm further to the right) due to the left shaft needing more space to fit.The v6 jigs out there are configured for a mk2 turbo or mk2 NA shaft placement)

    **All E153 onto either 3vz or 1mz engines will require the carrier bearing moving 4mm towards the diff on the supported shaft.

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    Edited with all i know on the subject,pay special attention to the * and ** notes,its not just a simple matter of A will bolt to B,moving to drivetrain and sticky'ing

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    Added clutch/flywheel information!
    1986 N/A sunroof - 4age to 4age rebuild swap
    1986 N/A hardtop - parts car.
    1995 BMW 318ti - the 3vz swap funds - to be sold

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    Put on there a modded Mk2 N/A flywheel and complete Mk2 N/A clutch.

    Nobody really uses it anymore but it is an option :thumbsup:

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    For what gear box? s54 or e153 or both?
    1986 N/A sunroof - 4age to 4age rebuild swap
    1986 N/A hardtop - parts car.
    1995 BMW 318ti - the 3vz swap funds - to be sold

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    Question: I was going to go the MK2 turbo axle route, but one of the inner CVs are bad in the axles I bought. Now I have parts to go two routes I think.

    -I have brand new ST165/1988 Camry V6 halfshafts.
    -I have brand new ST165 outer CVs.
    -1995 Avalon V6 supported shaft
    -MK2 Turbo axles, long side is fine, short side - inner CV is rusted

    So I was going to use the complete turbo setup but switch the ST165 outer CVs on there. That would be ideal correct?

    But the ST165 halfshafts will work on the V6 auto shaft? Will my Avalon supported auto shaft bolted to the ST165 halfshaft work? How about the other side, bolt the ST165 halfshaft onto the MK2 turbo axle stub? If this way is supposed to work, since the ST165 halfshafts are longer than the turbos, is the auto shaft shorter than the turbos?

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    I've sent you this link before. It's from Paul's original build thread. :)

    http://www.mr2mk1club.com/V6MR2.html

    Look at the diagram about 2/3 of the way down the page. Yes, the v6 auto intermediate/supported shaft is shorter than the turbo shaft.

    And I've bolted my '88 camry v6 shaft(s) I bought from rockauto already to my v6 auto intermediate shaft and v6 auto short stub shaft and all is well on that front.

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