My testresults 3S-GE vs. 3VZ-FE and videos

[hot-chili]

To make a complete overview about the new 3VZ-FE I make many tests. Some only for me some for our technical car tests to get a law paper to be allowed to drive on german streets.

!!!Please, this test results are only correct for my car with my setup, my wheels and my drive style!!!
It is only to show the direct difference between the engines at same car!

Bevor I have a 3S-GE Engine with original 175hp from 1994. I tune him to 179hp at 7467upm and 177Nm at 6913Nm here is the dyno video:
http://www.mein-mr2.de/Filme/3S-GE%2...ngsmessung.wmv

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Then I drive many test to find out how big is the differnce between the both engines. (now all in miles!!)
3S-GE:


3VZ-FE:



Speed / Gear / 3S-GE / 3VZ-FE / change %

13-38miles/h 2 5,1s 3,2s + 59%

19-38miles/h 3 6s 3,5s + 71%

19-63miles/h 3 12s 7,7s + 56%

25-44miles/h 4 7,3s 4,8s + 52%

25-44miles/h 5 11,9s 5,9s + 102%

38-63miles/h 3 7,2s 4,6s + 57%

38-63miles/h 4 10,3s 6,4s + 61%

38-63miles/h 5 14,6s 9,7s + 51%

50-75miles/h 3 7,1s 4,9s + 45%

50-75miles/h 4 9,9s 6,5s + 52%

50-75miles/h 5 14,2s 8,4s + 69%

0-63miles/h 1-2 9,9s 7,4s + 34%

My MR2 is now in elasticity between 45 to 102% faster then my old with 3S-GE engine.
My speed up will be 34% better.

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Then I must make more test, I drive to a big car weighbridge to get a law paper. Both engine use the S54 gearbox.

Bevor I test with my 3S-GE:
Front axle: 525kg = 1166lbs = 42,34%
Rear axle: 715kg = 1588lbs = 57,66%

Testresult with 3VZ-FE engine:
Front axle: 530kg = 1177lbs = 41,73%
Rear axle: 740kg = 1644lbs = 58,27%

You see, the 3VZ-FE engine is only 30kg = 67lbs bigger then the 3S-GE and the differnce between front and rear change only around 0,5%.
I weight all engine parts myself and my difference between 3S-GE and 3VZ-FE will be 35kg = 78lbs this resukt is very exact.

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Then I make the dyno run again now with the 3VZ-FE:
Video:
http://www.mein-mr2.de/Filme/3VZ-FE%...ngsmessung.wmv

I only make some head porting work, build a new Y-pipe and use the original airbox. And get 210hp at 6548rpm and 243Nm = 179lb/ft at 5572rpm.

Testresult with both engines, red is the 3S-GE black is the 3VZ-FE.
Power is german DIN Power at kw (kw x 1,36 = hp) torque is Nm (devide Nm through 1,36 and you get ft/lbs) left scale is power, right scale is torque



I only make some head porting work, build a new Y-pipe and use the original airbox. And get 210hp at 6548rpm and 243Nm = 179lb/ft at 5572rpm.

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Here you can see come drive videos with my car, there is some background noise from the cam, this is not from the car. Videos are between 4-27MB.

First start:
http://www.mein-mr2.de/Filme/Anlassen.wmv

Overtake a Chrysler Crossfire:
http://www.mein-mr2.de/Filme/Crossfire.wmv

Through old village with 5gear at 20miles
http://www.mein-mr2.de/Filme/130-30-130_im5Gang.wmv

up to 7000upm and some curves:
http://www.mein-mr2.de/Filme/Have_Fun%201.wmv

curves:
http://www.mein-mr2.de/Filme/Have_Fun%202.wmv

with open windows on village main road:
http://www.mein-mr2.de/Filme/Scheiben_unten.wmv

Getting home 5gear steep uphill:
http://www.mein-mr2.de/Filme/30erZone_5Gang_Bergauf.wmv

Here is it:


Now I´am very happy, the 3VZ-FE engine is great.
But I have some trouble to get the very important law paper here in germany. Next year they will no longer allow other engines in any car which was not sold by the producer in germany! :shocked:
Then it will be unpossible to change any engine here in germany.

[Shorty]

If i`m reading this right, that is huge improvments!:) Looks very good that engine bay too!!!!!!

But I have some trouble to get the very important law paper here in germany. Next year they will no longer allow other engines in any car which was not sold by the producer in germany! :shocked:
Then it will be unpossible to change any engine here in germany.

Norway has this too. I`m fucked. I can only run tracks and such shite!! Stupid laws destroying our hobbies!

[Garbe]

This is what we've been waiting for - some pre and post swap results - Well done that man:thumbsup:

[GaryA]

Yeah thats fantastic , well done :thumbsup:

[Sponge Bob]

Wow - excellently detailed information!!

Pure porn for us car geeks!! :thumbsup:

[Garbe]

What windscreen wipers do you have installed?

[biteme]

Superb results there mate, really really good :)

[welsha]

awesome details, thanks for posting

[millentubby]

Although it is a good indication I have to say it's not a completely fair comparison do to the 12 degree difference in ambient temp. This will slightly inflate the V6 figures. (but not enough to save the 3S-GE from a right old trouncing lol )

But.........the amount of information is amazing. It would be awesome to have full data sets like this for the 4AGE, mk1v6, mk1.5, mk2tubby..........list goes on.

Build looks great hot_chili - well done and thanks for the info!

[Paul Woods]

sticky'd..... thats the best post ive read in a long long time on TB,do you mind if i use those results when people ask me for performance information?

truly outstanding work mate :thumbsup: