chris99 ' s V6 swap

[chris99]

So it begins........................:thumbsup:

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/hobnobs.jpg

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/clock.jpg

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0186.jpg


http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0190.jpg


http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0191jpg


http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0192.jpg


http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/gearbox.jpg

[superchargedsam]

Good to go :thumbsup:

[petec]

Ok so the 'Man'rage is clear

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0194.jpg

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0195.jpg

Time to bring the beast in ........

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0196.jpg


And Chris begins work !!!!!!

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0197.jpg

[superchargedsam]

Chris do you realise you can actually raise the bonnet on most modern cars which then leads to easy engine access, just an idea like fella!

:hidesbehi

hehe

[jasper]

Are you allowed to park on the pavement officer...... lol

[chris99]

Are you allowed to park on the pavement officer...... lol
:slap: What you gonna do ????? Call the police:moon:

[Shorty]

Chris do you realise you can actually raise the bonnet on most modern cars which then leads to easy engine access, just an idea like fella!

:hidesbehi

hehe

rotflmao rotflmao rotflmao rotflmao

Looking good so far. First few days cleaning the garage i guess;) I would buy one of those bikes of you if they were left hand drive:thumbsup: lol

[chris99]

rotflmao rotflmao rotflmao rotflmao

Looking good so far. First few days cleaning the garage i guess;) I would buy one of those bikes of you if they were left hand drive:thumbsup: lol

lol first 10 mins matey. We are about to drop some fluids now..................:gay:

[Shorty]

lol first 10 mins matey. We are about to drop some fluids now..................:gay:

Tell me more:gay: :hidesbehi

[Garbe]

Is that a triarm?
also get some more swap pics up !!!
I had fluids all over the garage floor

[petec]

Currently there is a cbr400 triarm, A duke 748 (in bits) and the R6 has been demoted to the garden for now. Pics coming soon

[petec]

Coolent dropped

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0201.jpg

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0203.jpg

Does anyone know how to drop the tranny fluid ?

Off to get the engine hoist! :driving:

[Garbe]

The tranny fluid goes to a radiator, i just cut the lines and drained it like that. iirc tis at the front with the rest of the rads.

[Murf]

Poor camry!
You guys are nuts, are you safe to be let loose with that grinder??

[Paul Woods]

lol theres something very disturbing about this pic lol

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/03/71.jpg

this place gets nuttier by the day! but we love it.

[OlberJ]

The fact he's fingering the front vent or the fact the car's dripping fluids out it's eye?

[Paul Woods]

thats WHY its got watery eyes! lol

[OlberJ]

Is that an ice pole he's got up there

:hand: lol

[jasper]

:slap: What you gonna do ????? Call the police:moon:
No point Chris, you'd just do your "special" handshake and they'd let you off rotflmao

Did you get the engine out then?

[Gary.H]

lol theres something very disturbing about this pic lol

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2007/03/71.jpg

this place gets nuttier by the day! but we love it.
Maybe this explains it ???

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/1,,2007110349,00.html

:odd:

[jasper]

"Some people even like to taste mechanical fluids, but that’s going too far.”

Says the bloke who shags cars... lol

[petec]

Ok so we're down to just separating the drive shafts from the box, we've managed the nearside but are having issues with the offside bolts. These are the only thing stopping us taking the engine out. We've been trying for hours and are calling it a day.

We just seem to be damaging the bolts, is it possible just to drill these mothers out ?

[Jaemus]

i like these guy's style lol

best of luck y'all!

whats the donor car? like, what motor is about to be evicted?

[Paul Woods]

jesus!

"
Chris, who DOES have a girlfriend, confessed: “A nice car for me is a feast for the senses. It’s about smells, feelings and tastes. If I see a gorgeous Mercedes I know I’d love to jump into bed with it.”

whats the world coming to!

chris just cut through the shaft if the bolts are rounding off,then when the whole lot is out remove the shaft from the gearbox,or if you think you can remove the supported shaft in situ have a go,but its a bitch even when out of the car.

Id cut the shaft as close to the inner CV as poss and worry about it later.

[petec]

Chris99 tests out the hoist

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0207.jpg

Next the ECU is delicately remove from the dash

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0208.jpg

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0211.jpg

2 am and the damn drive shaft wont come appart

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0222.jpg

So we use the Paul Woods approved method :thumbsup:

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0223.jpg

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0229.jpg

Out comes the bad boy V6

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0234.jpg

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0236.jpg

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0238.jpg

Job Done

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0239.jpg

Change of plan, we may have found a new host for the V6 !!!!!!

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/img_0240.jpg

Next its gearbox appart and flywheel off

[Shorty]

rotflmao rotflmao rotflmao rotflmao

great pics there and good progress....:thumbsup:

[Paul Woods]

lol excellent pics! did you chaps remember the 4th ecu plug from behind the glovebox? often overlooked but very necessary!

if this is a full size bike i seriously dont want to mess with you fella!

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

[msherry21]

Great photos!! looks like you guys were havin a riot!

[GaryA]

This will be interesting lol :popcorn:

[Murf]

Love the obligatory standing in the empty engine bay pic :)

[petec]

Right so after lunch on saturday we started to attack the auto box from the V6

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/Chris99V6/img_0244.jpg



http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/Chris99V6/img_0245.jpg

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Removing the drive shaft the twobrutal way !

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/Chris99V6/img_0252.jpg

Next in came the two and we begin to remove 3S-GE

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/Chris99V6/img_0254.jpg

Hopefully we should have the engine out the box off and the fly wheel off ready to be sent off for modification by the end of sunday.

[chris99]

What i like about the 3rd pic down is that i was on the phone to Mr Woods when it was taken. Thanks again for all your help so far Paul.

[Paul Woods]

you're welcome mate,good progress there!

[adamh]

the beans of the swap this bit.. i love this bit of the work!, its well stress relieving..cutting through driveshafts and stuff and not needing them .....DIE DRIVESHAFT BAST*RD!... :toke: . good progress

[jasper]

DIE DRIVESHAFT BAST*RD!...
Nearly had coffee coming out of my nose.

Good work Chris, I really should get off my fat arse and do mine instead of reading about everybody else's swaps.

[OlberJ]

Nearly had coffee coming out of my nose.

Good work Chris, I really should get off my fat arse and do mine instead of reading about everybody else's swaps.

Ditto. But if it wasn't for these threads it'd probably take me twice as long. Or half as long. :freak3:

[biteme]

Home builds are all the rage now!

[OlberJ]

Aye but there's always plenty of mk2 owners that want fast mr2's aswell.

:hidesbehi





*No offence to anyone that's done a mk2 at home. Well, apart from the fact you own a mk2.

[biteme]

Meeeooowww!!

[petec]

And we're done

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99v6/picture_022.jpg

only joking :liar: , Fizzy (Ian) came by yesterday to show us what we've been scraping out knuckles for.

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99v6/picture_016.jpg

Thanks Fizzy !!! :thumbsup:

and after that we continued late into the night to remove the 3G-SE

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99v6/picture_033.jpg

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http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99v6/picture_053.jpg

[biteme]

I'd still be opening the engine bonnet :(

[Paul Woods]

great progress chaps,good to see!

[Murf]

Are you guys on a deadline or what?
Maybe Paul has a rival for the engine swap speed challenge!

[petec]

This morning we proceded to remove the box from the 3G-SE and then remove the flywheel to send off to FourVeeSix :thumbsup:

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99v6/picture_060.jpg

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99v6/picture_062.jpg

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http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99v6/picture_064.jpg

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99v6/picture_070.jpg

[Paul Woods]

naa my title is safe murf,they needed to be finished 3 days ago :)

[Murf]

Quick Marty, to the DeLorean, we'll beat that pesky Paul Woods.....

[GaryA]

Great work going on there , will be on the road soon . Watch the photos though guys,for a minute i thought Twobrutal had had it's first :gay: wedding lol

[superchargedsam]

Watch the photos though guys,for a minute i thought Twobrutal had had it's first :gay: wedding lol

and there was me thinking it was a freakish siamese twin setup!

[chris99]

:hand: :hand: :hand: :hand:

Ya bas**rds:D

This swap has to be fast as i cant afford to be without the car for too long. Anyway after our visit from Fizzy i need my own V6 ASAP. Oooooooooh the noise:driving:

[adamh]

good show lads... from the speed of the work id say the bath is pretty black!.

[chris99]

lol no time for a bath matey!

[Marksman]

Is that what's known as a dirty cop?

O.S.

[chris99]

Is that what's known as a dirty cop?

O.S.


Better than being bent i guess:hidesbehi

[Marksman]

Well those pictures... :hmm:

O.S.

[chris99]

Well those pictures... :hmm:

O.S.

:slap: :eekdoor:

[jasper]

Police brutality lol

How's the swap coming on?

[chris99]

Police brutality lol

How's the swap coming on?


And on the third day we rested....................:thumbsup:

Both engines are out and gear boxes split. Fly is in the post and new clutch ordered. I am going to take a few days off and then go for the refit:beer:

[lodgeman]

oh jasper! stop collecting cars/parts and start your own! lol or have you secretly got a project going?;)

[jasper]

I can't help it, got the buying bug. Nik's not too happy though, car bits everywhere. She doesn't even know that I've got a Camry stashed away in a rented lockup lol Will have to start soon though if I've a chance of finishing for JAE

[superchargedsam]

She doesn't even know that I've got a Camry stashed away in a rented lockup lol

Shocking that is :whistle:

[Fizzy]

:hand: :hand: :hand: :hand:

Ya bas**rds:D

This swap has to be fast as i cant afford to be without the car for too long. Anyway after our visit from Fizzy i need my own V6 ASAP. Oooooooooh the noise:driving:

Yeah, nothing like it. Glad I had a cop with me on my dash around harrogate - especially as I think I scared a few OAP's walking around in your estate. :D

Pretty funny actually, on my way back to my cousins over ilkley moor, went passed a layby with a load of 306's in it. Shot passed, came back around, popped in for a chat - then showed them the proper way to leave... in full V6 roar style. Bet I'm mentioned on a few pug forums after that. :rofl:

Quite ironic that I have been to an mr2 meet in my pug 306 when my 2 as being worked on... and now a 306 meet in my mr2. Nice kind of symmatry. lol

Anyhow - back on topic - glad to hear things are going nicely - and you hadn't even got the mr2 engine out when I left. :D Well done. :thumbsup:

(This may look familiar as I posted most of this in Jaemus's thread by mistake. ;) The wonders of trying to sneakily use the training centres pc's for internet usage. :nerd: :whistle: )

[biteme]

The full V6 roar eh? Nothing like it!

[petec]

We went to see Paul today, all I can say is what a great guy and he has a serious aladdins cave of MR2 parts. Can't wait to see that V8 up and running!

And Fizzy, mate your exhaust is damn quiet compared to the one Chris and I heard at Paul's today :freak3: :eek2:

Here's the latest update for today, fairly slow one today what with visiting WoodSport. Chris painted up his V6 cover. Looks sweet :afro:

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/picture_072.jpg

[Paul Woods]

pleasure having you here chaps,glad you enjoyed the guided tour and you didnt manage to contract any horrible diseases from the locals either which i find is a bonus... :)

oh and ta for the hobnobs!

right im off to the other forums to brag about how everyones been removing mk2 alternators the wrong way for years by unnecessarily removing the exhausts :)

[Garbe]

I've done my alternator twice, and always get it out the top. When people have posted on t'other forum they have probs and one guy ended up removing the subframe to get it out.

[Fizzy]

We went to see Paul today, all I can say is what a great guy and he has a serious aladdins cave of MR2 parts. Can't wait to see that V8 up and running!

And Fizzy, mate your exhaust is damn quiet compared to the one Chris and I heard at Paul's today :freak3: :eek2:


Yeah - The turbo mongoose exhuast I had on before was loud (hence why I had the magnex fitted later) - but its not a patch on others lately - especially that one that was essentially two exhaust systems, 1 per bank. Saw the vid clip of that in a long tunnel - and it was LOUD!! :thumbsup:

[petec]

Progress report please Chris

[chris99]

progress has almost stopped due to my shifts. I have now received my new clutch, Engine mount + Fly from Tony , Fly bolts from toyota, dizzy cap, radiator , egr plates and poly resin stuff for engine mounts through the post.:freak3:

I have fitted the engine mount and poured the stuff to make the mounts. The mount is a first class bit of kit which went straight on and looks factory - its well worth the money :clap:

I have been cleaning various parts and painting them up in the odd times i've been free.

I'm aiming for clutch, fly and gearbox re-mounted today and hope to try for engine back in this weekend:eek2:

Sorry if this post is rubbish because i was working last night and got home just after 7am. The postman just woke me up with the dizzy cap:doh: :violin: :snooty:

[Garbe]

The postman just woke me up with the dizzy cap:doh: :violin: :snooty:

what did he do, clonk you on the head with it lol

[chris99]

lol lol lol

No the fecker kept on banging on the door untill i got up though!:rant:

Fly and clutch refitted today. I remember that some of the holes need drilling out to fit the gearbox. I had a quick look and it looks like the two where the drive shafts come out of the box (but on the engine side) that need drilling. Can anyone confirm this before i ruin something please:fingersx:

Whilst looking at the shocking pile of bits today i found a number of weights of various shapes that i guess are to do with vibration. There is a square, a triangle and a cylinder shaped one. Do i need these? if so please tell me where they go:freak3:

[Paul Woods]

no dont drill any holes out chris,you shouldnt need to do that....i had to drill them out with a turbo box i once used on a v6 but never on an NA box,the bolts should pass through the block as normal.

[petec]

Chris99 just sent these to me through a photo message.

looking good mate :thumbsup:

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99v6/photo0109.jpg

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99v6/photo0111.jpg

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99v6/photo0112.jpg

[Shorty]

That looks to be outstanding work. Really impressive!:)

[chris99]

Thanks for putting the piccys up Pete :thumbsup:

Im glad you like it Shorty. Thought it was worth taking a bit of time to make it look nice:dance:

[biteme]

Looks bob on that! lol:thumbsup:

[Paul Woods]

amazing what a little elbow grease does,looking fantastic chris !

[Garbe]

looking bling
:thumbsup:

[adamh]

super job

[superchargedsam]

v.nice

[Marksman]

Always nice to see some care and attention. Gives peace of mind that the rest of the swap is in good hands.

All the best,

Owen.

[chris99]

Thanks for all of the kind words chaps. :afro:


Reached a massive mile stone today. I do believe that i am now the owner of a V6 MR2...................... :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: Yes that badboy is now resting in my car!!!! Pics to follow shortly:thumbsup:

Now just the small matter of sorting exhaust, plumbing, electrics...................................... :eek2:

[petec]

excuse the quality... camera phone pics :

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/photo0089.jpg
http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/photo0090.jpg
http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/photo0091.jpg
http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/photo0092.jpg

[biteme]

Comin' on a treat there matey.

[superchargedsam]

well done that man!

[Garbe]

Getting there.
what paint have you used on the intake, looks like you just cleaned and laquered it?

[OohMatron]

He had to make the intake that clean to keep up with the EGR Plates lol

Looking very good Chris, now just for the easy stuff to finish off :thumbsup:

[chris99]

I used some engine cleaner then one of those wire brush drill things to clean som more. Then a final clean, primer and silver spray paint. It looks pretty good now. I dont think that it will get too hot there

[Garbe]

Looking very good Chris, now just for the easy stuff to finish off :thumbsup:

What do you mean 'easy stuff' that's the bit i'm dreading:eek2:

[petec]

OK so Chris99 phones me from the airport and tells me he's off on holiday (git) and asks if I could post a progress report on his swap. What am I ? his PA ?

Anyway he phoned me the day before and let me listen to the sound of the V6 begining to cough and splutter into life. Having done all the wiring the plumbing and topped up the fluids he's just one part away, the ISC valve modification courtesy of Mr Woods from getting the beast to fire up.

Not long now !:thumbsup:

http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/SP_A0005.jpg


http://www.peterchaplin.co.uk/chris99V6/SP_A0006.jpg

[superchargedsam]

oooh nice! how long is he away for and would it be enought time to whip the engine back out and into the back of a rusty white transit for a quick get away?

;)

[petec]

Only a week, so we don't have much time lol

wooop wooop............:rozzer:

[superchargedsam]

cool! lets go.............




...................................:whistle:


But what can we put i its place so he wont know?

[Paff]

http://img.alibaba.com/img/product/photobank/j/oh/johip/offer/1158435961089.jpg

am sure he wont notice much :)

[superchargedsam]

LMFAO@Paff! nice one geeze

[chris99]

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

am sure he wont notice much :)

feckersrotflmao

Pete your not my PA mate - Your my biatch:moon:

Well im back and this mofo needs to be done in the next four days so no pressure then:freak3:

[Shorty]

Pete your not my PA mate - Your my biatch:moon:

rotflmao Good respons!:thumbsup:

[petec]

I just called the man himself, Chris99 and on answering the phone had the response "Hold on mate I've got a problem........ :woods:" next came the rumble of a V6 coming to life !!!!!!!!! rotflmao

[petec]

Here's a startup vid from Chris

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5961712061775806335

:master:

[hmmmmm]

Very nice project :thumbsup:

But this i miss something or didnt you do anything to the V6 after getting it out?? No new seals etc?

[chris99]

Very nice project :thumbsup:

But this i miss something or didnt you do anything to the V6 after getting it out?? No new seals etc?


Hi there matey,

My donor camry had just had a service and has only done 60,000 miles. I decided to just install it and deal with any issues later to reduce the costs involved in the swap.

I just want to say a MASSIVE thaks again to Paul for all his help in this project. There is no way at all this would have happened without him. I owe you one for sure:thumbsup:

Just a few odd jobs now to finnish her off and im on the road- OH BABY! :jump:

[Paul Woods]

well done chris mate :thumbsup: another one roars into life!

[Garbe]

Well done Chris - bet you're pleased as punch :thumbsup:

[loadswine]

Good on you mate. Looks great. More vids when you get the chance please.

[chris99]

I have just been doing loads of the smaller jobs like wrapping the wiring back up. I took the car for its first drive up the road last night. A bit naughty as there is no air filter yet but was much fun! Running a bit rough but i hope that will change with an air filter.

[petec]

Remeber the ECU will be in safe mode and it needs a good thrash :smack:

[chris99]

Why in safe mode mate?

[petec]

I lifted this from http://www.sopertek.co.uk/mr2/service/index.htm


A core function of the ECU is to keep an eye on fuelling and in addition to the standard map (set by Toyota) the ECU learns and adapts depending on factors like fuel quality, knocking, climatic factors, and driving style. Over a period of time the ECU may develop a conservative fuelling map which robs the car of performance (or if there's a problem). Although the ECU continually adapts, it's very slow at doing so and can be reset to speed up the process.

Preferably after a drive (car at full operating temperature), park, remove the key, and pull the engine lid release. In the engine bay is a fuse box. Remove the 7.5A ECU-B and 15A EFI fuses. In the front compartment (not the cabin) remove the 7.5A ECU-B fuse... and then wait for at least two minutes before replacing them all. With the fuses re-seated you can start the car and go for a drive and already warmed up you can drive the car hard if you wish (showing the ECU exactly how it should be fuelling!)

Don't be alarmed if the car is sluggish at first -- the ECU has been reset and is having to learn from scratch. If it's reset when the car is cold, the lack of performance and hesitation will be more noticeable, but will pass after a good 10-15 minute journey where the throttle can be exercised.

NOTE: Resetting the ECU not only removes the existing fuelling map but also any error codes which were stored. This is handy for any one-off events which may have placed the ECU in 'safe mode' but should a problem still be evident then the ECU may instantly revert back to its conservative settings. If this is the case then any issues should be addressed accordingly.

I Know its talking about the MR2 ECU but i'm guessing the're similar.