rear body work

[adamh]

will be doing the rear valence & body soon, ive decided to plate up the valence gap with either perforated or plain sheet steel, and use a rover 216 front bumper over it, saw this recently on pauls old 1.5 and decided its real nice got to be worth its weight in gold.

the replacement allows me to not worry so much about the look of the metal work underneath. it would be very difficult to refabricate this portion close to origonal shape of valence.. so the bumper is a god send!. costed 15 quid from the local breakers.
shot of origonal on pauls old 1.5:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/paddy1970/MR2_REAR.jpg




present state of rear:

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/10/111.jpg

one on my banger, fits V well. have to chop off the top portion of bumper so it sits under the MK1 bumper just so. im not sure how a turbo backbox will fit yet, progress soon hopefully.

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/rover216.jpg

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[Goldy]

oooh looks like a plan to me, look forward to updates on this one..... wheres that damn popcorn smilie? Just don't go for the woodsy rear lights option :-S

[jasper]

That looks well smart :thumbsup:

[superchargedsam]

gotta say its a damned shame we have to have arches covering wheels for safety sake as I love the look of those mofo rear wheels poking out like that !

[adamh]

oooh looks like a plan to me, look forward to updates on this one..... wheres that damn popcorn smilie? Just don't go for the woodsy rear lights option :-S

am not going for woodsies mod was just a photoshop !

:whistle:

cheers fella, that bumper is really a feckin godsend of covering up the valence, another beer to mr woods, at this rate we may aswell buy him a brewery!.

[Paul Woods]

can i just have cash please....thankyou. :)

looking good there ad...it'll be grand once trimmed/blended etc

[adamh]

and another day at the garage.. :alc: .. al and I were drinking coke and eating cornish pasties, having a chat, torching rev 1 looms :poke2: lol , and we got some welding done :) ..

this week i have been trimming up a section of 16 gauge sheet. thats around 1.5-1.6mm. good stuff for the valence. i cut a cardboard template, then cut steel from template, (?10 from friendly sheetmetal place)... and then was basically back and forward to and from workshop slotting / bending / drilling, till happy with fit of sheet for now. it fits good in profile of the rear which is wavy.. and we (alan :mrgreen: ).. tacked the sheet up onto the rear as planned, we used U-POL weld thru zinc primer for the first time, i think i got the idea of peebs, and let me tell you its firkin wonderful stuff to use , does not affect the welds. I also reinforced the bottom of the sheet with a 20 x 5 mild steel flat bar length, i wanted to do this inside so the thin sheet metal wouldnt take a battering from the road salt as the wheels flick their shyte onto the valence.. so i stitch welded this bar on all the way along to reinforce/protect.

I went for holes as i thought johns looked nicely origonal and also will flow more air than the standard slots which'l help me keep boot mounted IC cooler. i love all this theoretical bullshit :-) but we can only try. its fixed in as solid as a rock and thick where it counts oo err missus.

cosmetic left, happy so far, might even leave the rover bumper off eventually, yet to see what it looks like further on. once again sooperb thanks to al who comes down to help out .
http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/valence1.jpg

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/valence2.jpg

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/valence3.jpg

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/valence4.jpg

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/valence5.jpg

rear quarter getting done next
http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/valence6.jpg

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/valence7.jpg

peened round flaps and tacked onto right rear quarter, fits good round bend
http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/valence8.jpg

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/valence9.jpg

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[lodgeman]

cant believe you set fire to your own car!:naughty:...................



















oh was it me that did it? oooops :icon_conf sorrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
it does look good though! all we need now is the wings from mr woods and we will be flying along!!

[adamh]

and btw.. alan tryed to torch a turbo! :D .. j/k .
while welding unfortunately the loom caught ablaze and melted a few ecu plugs and most of the ecu side of wiring. the N1 and engine side is untouched, needs a new loom tho folks. was my fault tho, went off for a whizz as was needy!.. and inadvertently the extremely combustable boot lining caught ablaze while my attention was elsewhere :blush:. oh.. and i went for a whizz in al's 1.5!.. its one thing bieng taken for a ride as a passenger.. totally different driving it, id really like of those 3vzfe swaps aswell.. they are frikin awesome without exception :)

[Paul Woods]

you loons! you're supposed to keep all of the combustion INSIDE the engine! :) easily done tho fellas,boy have i got stories to tell....

right id better get these arches sent up then!

[adamh]

thankyou shorty, i hope you managed to squeeze a norweigan blonde in the packet..


ive bolted the eurosport up, it fits well under bolts. i used alluminium angle strips 2 x 250mm long, and drilled 5 holes in.. dril & tapped up through the bumper bar M6, bolted on up through the spolier top lips L/R. i can use the existing mk1 lower tie rods to tie it in at the bottom edges. I will bolt through the side lugs 2 places in each side tommorow to the side lugs on the bumper skin.

it fits ok, folk scorn the eurosport kit.. this bit fits fine and dandy.. maybe a few cracked edges to fix .. but overall a keen fit.

next job is to fit the arches on rougly, fettle and cut / find a way to bolt them to the eurosport sides.. fit them just nut/bolts. then i have to make an inner thin strip on each arch / tack weld.. so the flare inner lips will meet up with the origonal arch liners. then all out and por15 the arches. i'll be continuing in the bodywork section!.

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[Shorty]

Osh. You really do stuff the right way A. It will be so exiting to see what i looks like in the end. Oh, about the blonde, if i could find one, i`d keep her for myself. Sorry mac:)
Turns out the HFH is different on the rev3 so now i have another one i don`t need. Let me know if you blow another one:)

[jasper]

Reminds me of something from a kiddies cartoon lol:

[superchargedsam]

Reminds me of something from a kiddies cartoon lol:




What Like a modern day Brum?

:hidesbehi

[biteme]

Hmm it's like a take off from Knight Rider - but in alternative colours :)

[nik]

5 is alive..!

[superchargedsam]

5 is alive..!bloody knew I had seen it somewhere before!

[OlberJ]

Your mother's a snowblower!

[adamh]

well then i guess i changed that hose from hell, it aint too bad guys.. as long as you have the right tools for the job. no bodywork done because of it but im not to worried im happy its sorted as it was dripping daily wouldnt be long for it was empty!. re-bleeding today if i can get out.
:rofl: famous for five minutes!, nearly fell off me chair when got back from pub last night whos modelling the home page for april then? lol

[Shorty]

whos modelling the home page for april then? lol

:praise2:

Good job on the HFH.:thumbsup:

[nik]

yeah sorry adam, i just like that picture..
any takers for april..?

[adamh]

its allright i dont mind modelling :freak3:.. i think we should nab pictures each month, the origonal brutal front pages are just awesome ike 'grind scene' and the bosch grinder.. classics, can you make them downloadable as desktop backgrounds?.. ive been using the monochrome brutal emblem for about a year now, perhaps a new thread

[Paul Woods]

so have i ad...due a change methinks! i love the current rimmer angle wielding frontpage now,class!

[adamh]

jobs left

rear arches
front & rear of left rear arch
engine lid
rear quarter window
re-fit alarm ....... sorted
rear spoiler
number plates
insurance ....... sorted
mot.


few bits done, rear arches are postponed till next tuesday start.. I've had to cover for someone at work, boo.

ive got number plates to sort and spoiler undertray.. oh and f*cked gearbox or something close on the dailydriver.. plenty busy!

[superchargedsam]

whats up with the gearbox fella?

[mr2aw11turbo]

whats up with the gearbox fella?

It's french lol

[adamh]

It's french lol

precisely :thumbsup:

[superchargedsam]

ah soz re read it now! DUH!

[adamh]

bit more progression on the engine lid side of things, ive cut and stuck it in.. am now welding up the support braces. it definately needs them as when it has a big hole cut in it the lid is very flexible!. still need to put something under the green mark and lash over the latching mech with some sheet. which will be the last fixing point for rigidity. used 15 x15 x 3 angle acrross top and the 4 slats, and some 20x5 flat bar for the bottom bit. more lashing up to follow

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/enginelid1.jpg

[Shorty]

how much clearance do you have? and will you have them suck air out or blow into the bay?

[adamh]

ah clearence.. the steel work is flush with the 'lowest' parts (drip trays) of the lid as you can see ..so no worries. it should fit (famous words lol ) .. when i get round to fitting i'll let you know.

fans.. according to JB.. there is a healthy through flow of air when moving, so i've decided i'm not going to use lid fans unless an overheat proves me wrong. my IC is in the boot, and i got the engine bay fan on the side vent.. im going to get this job done and carry on mate.. i can always add a fan to one of the vents there later

[lodgeman]

you have to remember shorty - this guy has about 15 fans on the car so cooling shouldnt be a worry, just needs a bigger battery!!!!rotflmao

[Shorty]

you have to remember shorty - this guy has about 15 fans on the car so cooling shouldnt be a worry, just needs a bigger battery!!!!rotflmao
rotflmao

[adamh]

as it happens alans running an adjustable fan thermostat on his side vent fan this is a real neat trick as it can come on earlier in traffic for summer with a twiddle of the knob, it also stays on and cools the engine bay after shutdown and turns off automatically when happy. that's if you don't wire it on permanent with ignition like I have right now.

i'l eventually be running the intercooler fans and side vent on 20 degree stats with overide switch, as I don't want to starve the ignition of cranking amps, I've flatted it a few times with stop / starting in the garage and not going for long runs and have to take the fuses out right now while working on it. I got three 8" fans at the rear to run two on the IC / one side and the beefier turbo rad fans upfront on the standard stat set up

[adamh]

i got sme more time on the lid today, ive now cut the main brace bar and inserted a 5mm peice in the cut gap ! look closely you will notice in the middle. i didnt notice but the lid was curved by about 15mm at worst after the welding before, sorted now. i also put in a some plate from the brace bar to the catch to stiffen that up. drilled through the angle and self tapped into the existing mk2 lid holes (handy) this attaches the turbo lid peice to the mk1 frame, i then plated over the remaining mk1 vents, and toshed some fibral all around the edge.. its alot stiffer now. last job to do on the rear is take the lid to a tin basher who will knock up a 2mm ally cover plate for the underneath so it hides all the nasty bits ;) and leaves ony the lid catch holes and vents and folds over the rear lip. . cosmetic left of course, isnt there always.

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/enginelid2.jpg

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/enginelid3.jpg

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/enginelid4.jpg

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/enginelid5.jpg

you have to be real careful with these lids when cut.. you weld in braces it will distort.

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[Shorty]

That looks perfect. Again! Good saturday:)

[adamh]

2nd time round is straighter, sometimes you forget just how flimsy the mk1 lid is without the middle bit. i thankfully didnt have to chnage the daily driver gearbox either just the driveshaft & cv as that was what was making the bag of bones noise! so good day. im off work this week... time to take the plunge with the rear arches and get this thing wrapped up.. scary job!

[Shorty]

Good news on the daily. If you got one whole week that could, with GF permission ofcourse, get you a long way. Amazing what you can do the hours you`re usually at work.

[Rowdan]

Lid looks good Adam, will be all finished by this time next week then ;)
Owen has collected all the bits you wanted (plus another spare Mk1lol ), so should be with you soon.:hand:

[Garbe]

Great work on the lid

[Paul Woods]

excellent work on that lid adam,it looks spot on.

[superchargedsam]

great lid there adam!

[Shugsta]

Lidtastic Adamski! :thumbsup:

[adamh]

some more progress on the penultimate work on my motor :mrgreen: .. i'm off slavery this week to get this bit done..ive been at it two days and so far have managed to get the right side on :thumbsup: and the rest of the r/h arch constructed.. i mean it was complete but i had to fabricate in the front and rear bottoms as the arch (woodsport arch) was origonally built for wide ass lily who must have the most humungous wheels cos when i put these arches up i was like..'theres no frikin way these will fit 8O ' pauls rears had a rolling rad of 650mm or there abouts.. my paultry 580 means 70mm difference on diameter and some room to make up. so i rotated the front of the arch round and down.. and 3 inches of arch was poking below the sill. that was lopped off , and lots of lashing bits here and there, and shes on :mrgreen: ..
alan popped down today and started the fibral/filler cosmetic off :thumbsup:

now the left is a different story, i have the rear corner quarter to fix on, and the front arch lower panel to fix on, plenty more burnt face/weld in ears/ slashed fingers/black snots to come ;)

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/flares1.jpg

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/flares8.jpg

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/flares2.jpg

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/flares6.jpg

the gap at the bottom in the above pic is now fully lashed up onto inner arch and bottom constructed

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/flares7.jpg



http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/flares9.jpg

left side so far

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/flares3.jpg


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[podge]

shes starting to look real sweet now ad good work fella:thumbsup:

[OlberJ]

Those 16x9's on the back there i take it Adamant?

[David Sleith]

Looks real good Adam.

Another top job. Makes me want to rip mine back off and do it again. Not parking my car next to yours at JAE thats for sure.

[Paul Woods]

those rear arches attached just make the car come alive somehow adam,really looking good now!

[Zip]

TBH i thought those Arches would look terribly Fugly.

But it turns out they look pretty cool :thumbsup:

[adamh]

wait until the paint is on zip ;)

yes 16x9 olber. i wanted 255/35/16 but couldnt find any so you'll note with the 245/35/16 a slight rad on tyre. podge found the only 255's in existence i think

[superchargedsam]

oooh how sweet does that look! mmm

[adamh]

allright then most of the construction done.. new front and rear panels too. lots of grinding awaits. and about 2/3 weeks of coming home as white as a sheet. ive to be careful with the sill area under neath the A pillar, dont want to much obvious repairs showing thru although ive nowt to worry about as its been totally reconstructed :whistle: . i'm going to tosh seam sealer / por 15 / thick underseal right around the 4 arches and sills. to finish. the end is in sight.. good job im quite sick of eating mr2.

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/flares10.jpg

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/flares11.jpg

P.S i moved this to my old 'rear body work thread' much more suited for ref.

[lodgeman]

is it me or are the pictures better?:hidesbehi

[OlberJ]

Pfffft, put it in a random thread, much more fun. :hidesbehi

Looking tip top cheif. What colour is it going, did you say sky blue? Decided on skirts yet too?

[adamh]

skirts,... i like them off :beer:
same blue colour i think it'l look great with fresh paint, its very dull & flat and battered right now..its had some shyte thrown at it the last 2yr ! sellotape, grinding dust paint , all sorts!..its appauling mate. oh and one wash in that time lol , i usually just 'dust' it off

[Marksman]

I'm going weak at the knees Adam, proper TB stuff.

Raised skirts ar better than "off" but that'd be an odd look for a two :hmm:

Keep bashing away, the relaxing bit is in sight...

All the best,

Owen.

[OlberJ]

Keep bashing away, the relaxing bit is in sight...



Like a post coital cigarette. :thumbsup:

[Marksman]

Dirty boy! :slap: (Clever though, keep it up.)

Owen.

[Jiff Lemon]

skirts,... i like them off :beer:

:D

On the MR2 front, wondering what they'd look like flared out at the ends to meet up with the arches? Same at the rear but flared into a mudflap.....

Oh why am I crap at photoshop?

[adamh]

:D

On the MR2 front, wondering what they'd look like flared out at the ends to meet up with the arches? Same at the rear but flared into a mudflap.....

Oh why am I crap at photoshop?
here go jeff, a square on shot of the rear, i think they look best as is.
so then, i have no more welding to do on the car, im on the cosmetic now which is pure rubbing and priming and getting the shape right, will take a few weeks i reckon!, also have the engine lid to do, but thats the last bits.. oh and the quarter window needs putting in. cant beieve its nearly done.. jeff.. whats going on your end matey?.

all sealed up now so you cant see any imperfections inside of the arches/should be watertight seam sealered on the insides. just got to black por15 them and underseal over when the por gets here. the pink blobs are fibral where seam sealer was not bulk enough to bridge the gap. there are steel inners under the goo.



http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/flares12.jpg

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[OlberJ]

That last picture looks so bloody mean. Loving it. :thumbsup:

[adamh]

is it me or are the pictures better?:hidesbehi
they are ta mate :photos::thumbsup: aint a bad old snapper, its growing on me.
cheers olber, i like the rear view, i cant really see myself fitting the rover rear valence its plastic and be a shame to use such an item. i prefer the mad max look :twisted: and not too worried about having a car that dosent conform to the mr2 standard shape, i'll use a bumper but thats it

[Zip]

Adam, That Rear Bumper (or valence as you just called it) that sam is getting made up might look bloody great with those arches :cool:

And In my opinion i think you should do as Jiff said and make the SideSkirts blend with the Arches :thumbsup:

[adamh]

its worth considering zip.. i do like the standard side skirts alot. i'll offer one up and see how much trouble its going to be, i think i dismissed it before due to the work involved, to be fair, i hadnt the the rear arches on then,so i'll have a look :thumbsup:

another thing to consider is i have the option of a set of eurosport skirts up at woodsport (cheers paul) ... i just dont know if i want to bog me down with anymore work, ive had my share mate i can say!.

istherea picture of sams bumper?

[Zip]

istherea picture of sams bumper?


Thsi is the Bumper sam is getting modified a little bit so it fits on an Mk1 wioth no hassle at all really.:thumbsup:

Heres a couple of pictures of it.

http://rpmlab.com/images/rearside.JPG

http://rpmlab.com/images/rearside.JPG

[adamh]

looks real nice zip i like the idea of both pieces bieng one. i'm not going to have time unless sam was ready inside of next week. i can always add to it later. i'd really like a high lift spoiler with alluminium brackets and get them blown in, so maybe i'll do the two at a later date when more bodyparts are available over here.. i.e; there isnt much at-all right now

[Garbe]

That's looks sweet, it's a squeeze getting it into the garage lol.
Those wheels fit snugly in the arches now. I love a nice fat rearend only on cars mind, not ladies lol

[adamh]

the left has taken shape after a full day of sanding. ive just stuck some high build on there.. its shown a few pits and nicks as it does!.. little more finer work on it and i'll be on the r/h side. you'll notice te panel above the arch is slightly dished from welding even tho i spot welded these panels are so thin and easily pull, it will be smoothed over and is in progress. thats why the filler went a tad high

http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/flares16.jpg

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[lodgeman]

looking good matey:thumbsup: not sure on the colour match though!rotflmao

[Shorty]

Looks sweet A. What kind of sideskirts are you using with those arches?

And OMG those wheels stick out like a drag car. LOVE IT!!!:) (as i got mine on the way)

[adamh]

cheers al, was/is/will be more hard work lol and then i got the other side.
i paid attention to the arch lip size this time..... master :moon:

sideskirts.. hmm.. im seriously not liking the idea at this stage!.. i love the look without, although.. i've said i would offer up the side skirts and have a looksie just to see if im missing out.. will do soon amigo

[Rowdan]

That's looking stunning now, your labour of love is really paying dividends. :thumbsup:

Going for the same colour on the arches as Paul used on Lilys I see. :hidesbehi

[podge]

i think she looks good without the skirts sort of exentuates the arches but you never now till you try them great work ad coming on well mate:thumbsup:

[Garbe]

topw adam - can't wait to see this in the metal

[Paul Woods]

looking stunning now and thats without paint!

[stephen brooks]

some nice arch kits on ebay mate,made them myself,would the rear valence be worth me tooling up for,been selling parts through a third party who was adding a bit much on for himself so looking for new outlets.any tips would be greatly appreciated,regards steve

[Gary Symons]

some nice arch kits on ebay mate,made them myself,would the rear valence be worth me tooling up for,been selling parts through a third party who was adding a bit much on for himself so looking for new outlets.any tips would be greatly appreciated,regards steve

:welcome: to TB.

If you are interested in selling direct on here you may want to look at the link:
http://shop.twobrutal.com/page.php?page=affiliate_info

[Paul Woods]

stephen are you the maker of the famous JDG arch panels we have been using for years? mate if you can create wide arch versions like on adams car there is a huge demand for that i kid you not! :)

[Marksman]

Just the panels on their own but without the mark-up would be a very well received! A new thread may be in order methinks!

All the best,

Owen.

[adamh]

ive used some of your lower panels steve on the rear left quarter if you look back in the thread, nice work they are :thumbsup:. as said head for the affilates section, ask any mod/admin if you need any pointers. flared arches.. worth investigating