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Well chaps we have been asked to do a swap for a fairly new member to Two brutal, namely Fizzy. He did originaly ask Paul to do the swap, but as you all probably know he is fully booked till November. As Fizzy would like to take his converted car to a show in mid August, he enquired via this forum if anyone else was prepared to take on the swap instead.
So, we offered to to the swap and after a few eMails, phone calls and stuff, he brought his Camry donor to us yesterday on his way back from buying it. After seeing my car and its nice shiney engine bay and me taking him for a quick spin in it, I think he was rather impressed by it's performance and swap quality - note he has a mk2 Turbo right now, with a blown snail.
The Camry donor, is a real cracker and an absolute sin to destroy really. It has covered 197k miles, but honestly you would not know it if you were to see it and hear that gorgeous engine. The body is in near perfect condition and the vehicle has a full service history up to 162k miles!
So as we currently only have room to store one car, we decided that the Camry just had to go as quickly as possible. So today was spent mostly stripping the donor car into it's component parts. The engine was not removed, but is ready to come out first thing tomorrow morning.
Here are some piccies of today's Brutality for your viewing pleasure.
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day1/PoorCar.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day1/History.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day1/Engine1.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day1/Engine2.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day1/Engine3.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day1/Gutted1.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day1/Gutted2.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day1/Gutted3.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day1/Gutted4.jpg
Note, the absence of a grinder or burning tackle usage - we must be slipping :)
Jiff Lemon
26-06-2006, 20:40
Bloody amateurs! We demand the real Peebs! Get the grinders or leave this forum! :D
thats a seriously nice donor. Wouldn't bother pulling it apart having seen the insides of mine after similar mileage, just drop and swap!
Black Karmeleon
26-06-2006, 20:44
Bloody hell thats a quick bit of stripperage for sure! took me a day to drop the 3sgte on its own! who selling the parts then ;) nice work
Marksman
26-06-2006, 20:50
Glad to hear it's on Peebs!
May you live in interestig times! (Oh hang that's a curse isn't it? Oh well you get the idea!)
Owen.
You guys are definately gonna need to keep taking those pics,
It can turn into a how to for a mk2 conversion
:hmm: actually be quite useful for me :shifty:
It drove well on the way there too. Was starting to get to like it too much. :icon_conf
....but the rear view mirror kept on drooping all the time. It had to go. :twisted: Ok, so it also had some worrying clonk from the suspension at times, and it looked like it may have been in a little front end shunt - when opening the bonnet, it was catching on the wipers.....
I'm the 3rd owner (this time not lucky for it though :P ) and the 1st owner appears to have maintained it well - hence all the paperwork upto 165k. Shame the guy I bought it off seemed to just run it around regardless for the last year.
Never mind, its no matter to me now. :D
Didn't look that clean when I dropped it off as it looks in the first pic, honest!! :P
LoL@Jiffy, don't worry there is plenty of brutalisation planned for the near future :) And the inside is as good as the out matey, the ciggie lighter has never been used, neither has the ashtry, bit of wear on the driver's seat, but thats about it. Pristine motor for its age.
Cheers for the comment on progress, Karmeleon. It took a lot less time than we expected tbh, but then again there were two of us on the case.
More piccies to follow too
Edit:
....but the rear view mirror kept on drooping all the time. It had to go. :twisted:
Haha, I see, ah well, we certainly ain't puttin it back together again if you change your mind lol
Didn't look that clean when I dropped it off as it looks in the first pic, honest!!
We didn't bother cleaning it matey. Does look good though, the flash bought out the paintwork really nicely wethinks. :mrgreen:
going into business then lads? look forward to seeing another nice swap .. jeez..im getting sick of saying that on this forum ! . the force be with you :beer:
Nice work chaps... If you want a hand, i'm not doing much this week (other than playing supercharger) and wouldn't mind a peep at whats goin on?
That came apart mighty quick :icon_eek:
Paul Woods
27-06-2006, 07:44
nice work lads! bloody hell no messing about there....fizzys in good hands,the phones always answered at woodsport if you hit a snag or need a part.
Nice little unit there too chaps! :thumbsup:
Update coming up - with more piccies - in a short while. Just have to do a bit of photoshopping first. Just thought I'd come answer any q's or comments.
going into business then lads? look forward to seeing another nice swap .. jeez..im getting sick of saying that on this forum ! . the force be with you :beer:
Well, plans for that have been in the pipeline since before my own swap, but we are using this first one as a sort of "test bed" so to speak as we have not dealt with the public in this way before. So if all goes well then mebe, juss mebe.
And we'll be getting the lightsabres out shortly :mrgreen:
Nice work chaps... If you want a hand, i'm not doing much this week (other than playing supercharger) and wouldn't mind a peep at whats goin on?
That came apart mighty quick :icon_eek:
You are welcome to come down and take a look at what's going on any time you like Goldy, but as it's not our car we would prefer you not to bring any spanners with you, but ta for the offer anyways matey. :)
nice work lads! bloody hell no messing about there....fizzys in good hands,the phones always answered at woodsport if you hit a snag or need a part.
Nice little unit there too chaps! :thumbsup:
Thanks for the offer of help and bits Paul, will bear that in mind :thumbsup:
And thanx for the kind words to all of you.
Cheers guys see ya in a bit.
Okay here's a quick look at today's progress
First of all we lifted Mr T's little sekrit from its hidey hole...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day2/GoingUp.jpg
...the camry's poor old suspension seemed to be quite relieved at this point...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day2/HalfOut.jpg
...then we whispered to the engine where it was destined for, and it started dribbling.
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day2/EngineOut.jpg
Then we stripped out the rest of the Camry...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day2/GuttedCamry.jpg
...and levitated it with our magical powers...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day2/FloatingCamry.jpg
..ahem, okay, alright, here's our lil' sekrit on that one. :mrgreen:
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day2/FloatingSekrit.jpg
Then we removed the gearbox, torque convertor and flex plate (sorry forgot bout pics of that) so we could slap it on the engine stand...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day2/Onstand.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day2/OnStand2.jpg
...so it is now ready to be stripped down,, cleaned and painted over the course of the next few days.
Getting the shell scrapped tomorrow as the Fizzy should be bringing his MR2 up to us on thursday.
Off out with in my own one right now. So see you guys a little later, tata.
Marksman
27-06-2006, 20:17
I hate you , I hate you I hate you. :old: :welsh:
Do you have any concept of how long that took Welly and I to do, twice, on a driveway in the sodding Welsh snow with hand tools?
Fine work though BTW...
All the best,
Owen.
Brilliant work chaps, suprised at how fast its coming along.....
p.s I sent this to the camry owners club theres a lynch mob coming your way lol
Great work guys, always amazes me how the v6 engine goes straight into a mk2 bay without any cutting. When you see it outside the camry it looks as if it will never fit. :cool:
Owen, whassamattawivyaman? I though you were brutal !?
Oh btw, for your's and Jiffy's benefit, we actually used grinders today - a 4" one for a stubborn bolt head and a big eff off 9 incher to hack the rear suspension arms off. :mrgreen:
Phil - I know what you mean about the engine looking so huge just after being extracted from a camry bay. To be fair though, they usually go on a diet shortly afterwards as the lose the power steering pump, the aircon compressor and that bloody fumungous auto gearbox - it's nearly as big as the engine itself, hehe.
lodgeman
27-06-2006, 22:58
hey nice work guys!what are you doing with all the bits? :boogie:
welly_59
27-06-2006, 23:16
lol it was probably the worst weather we could have had for stripping them cars i think owen!
yer vultures. not much left of that!
Hey.... I only took it in for a minor service!!!!! :jok: ;)
lodgeman
28-06-2006, 00:02
dont worry they will put it all back nice and neatly ..........
yeah right!:rofl:
Paul Woods
28-06-2006, 07:20
i was on the phone to peebs and i could hear a ratchet clicking away in the background,now if click per second ratio is correct that ratchet was doing serious RPM by my reckoning! no wonder it got stripped that quickly!
Fine work chaps.
Oi Peebs, where's today's update then? :popcorn: :mrgreen:
Hi everyone, I'm Peebs' girlfriend! :wave: I have absolutely no idea about the intricacies of an engine swap... but it sure sounds nice when it's finished! :)
Hey there Anna, what you doing on our swap thread, hehe.
Glad you decided to register though - finally. (she's away from home right now - miss you XXX :)
Update coming soon, gotta sort piccies and stuff
Lodge -
hey nice work guys!what are you doing with all the bits? :boogie:
Well lodge, therin lies a story. We are obviously having to charge Fizzy for this conversion and we didn't want to try to undercut PW or overcharge at the same time. I decided to have a sneaky peek at Pauls prices. But, ahem, I fewked up!
I didn't want us to be cheaper than Paul or more expensive this way only geography matters, if you see what I mean.
But I quoted Pauls lowest price when I should have quoted for a more expensive option. So, we came to an agreement with Fizzy that we would store/strip/and ebay parts of the car for him and have them picked up from here and all money sent to him (to save him the trouble or transport or bits back home) in exchange for us to keep other parts of the car for our own time and trouble of stripping the car.
But, as we have done that bit so quickly (Stripdown), we are going to make sure that that Fizzy gets that back as much as the Camry cost him and then some.
If we do actually setup in business, we have agreed with Paul that we will be using a simmilar pricing plan to his own.
Marksman
28-06-2006, 22:30
Oi Peebs, where's today's update then? :popcorn: :mrgreen:
Hi everyone, I'm Peebs' girlfriend! :wave: I have absolutely no idea about the intricacies of an engine swap... but it sure sounds nice when it's finished! :)
Hi Peebs. You do know that multiple accounts or user names are not permitted on this forum don't you old chap? :rozzer: :nerd:
All the best mate,
Owen.
LoL Owen, no, no, she is not plastic pam and I do not store her in a cupboard, she is the real deal, I assure you, hehe. She's just away from home right now, but obviously interested in the progress, been on to her for ages to join up. Anyways gonna start the update now. :)
Oooh, today saw some great brutality, which I am sure you will all enjoy :)
You guys are always screamin for photos, so get ready for a surprise, coz here's a million...
We got in nice and early, only to find that the Camry Faries had visited in the night.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/CamryFairies.jpg
Well okay, not really, but here comes the brutal bit...
Firstly this happened...
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/FarewellCamry1.jpg
But it appears that the Camry (or the driver, perhaps :) was a little horny. Tony (FourVeeSix) is the guy on the left, laughing at the last comment on this post probly, hehe.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/FarewellCamry3.jpg
Looks like the Rover's suspension was a little unhappy about all this though...
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/FarewellCamry4.jpg
WTF! ?
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/FarewellCamry5.jpg
Tony plays "tug 'o' war" with a skip wagon...
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/FarewellCamry6.jpg
...and that was that - Music plays "Bye, bye, Camreey, byebye, byeee, bye"
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/FarewellCamry7.jpg
After that was all done and dusted we set about ripping Fizzy's newly aquired lump to bits - opps, soz Fizz...
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/ComingApart1.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/ComingApart2.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/ComingApart3.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/ComingApart4.jpg
The timing was out by about 1.5 teeth on the rear bank, and although the cam belt was changed about 15k miles previously it had been fitted backwards - bloody spanner moneys. Also two of the cam tensioner bearings sound very rough and we have advised Fizzy to have them replaced.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/TimingOut.jpg
Here's me attacking the cam pulleys - ugly bast ain't I ? hehe
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/MeEngine.jpg
Good job Fizzy had us change the head gaskets, because of this...
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/GasketSplit.jpg
...and this. Looks like the gasket has been battered by the valves on two cylinders - must have been incorrectly fitted and overhanging the bores.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/GasketBattered.jpg
While Tony got busy doing this sort of thing...
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/Cams.jpg
btw, forgot to get pics of it, but the camshaft bearings and seats are in absolutely tip top nick, looks brand new, amazing stuff from toyota for an engine of this milage.
I got busy with this...
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/Acis1.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/PlenumFilthy.jpg
This bit just had to go too...
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/NastyEGR.jpg
And after a little bit of this...
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/MeCleaning.jpg
...and a bit of ally blanking fabrication (sorry no pics) ... you get this...
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/PlenumPaintReady.jpg
...and this...
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/PlenumClean1.jpg
...and even this...
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/PlenumClean2.jpg
Tony got to this stage after much elbow grease - (sorry for no in betweeny pics)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/HeadsOff1.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/HeadsOff2.jpg
..and managed to clean this also - came up nice we think.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/Cover.jpg
So, all in all, another good days progress, but we do fear we may get held up a little by some of the parts we require having to be ordered from the states. Of course this being out first conversion for someone else and being a little disorganised this time (as we took on this job at short notice) this should not be the case in future swaps (if we get any :)
However, Fizzy is bringing his beloved MR2 to us tomorrow and so we will at least have something to be carrying on with for the moment, as there are a few other things that need doing to the car that we can be getting on with.
Rest assured Fizz, that your V6 was covered over for the night and at all times when any dust creating work was being performed, also your car will be covered with a dust sheet at all times when we are not working on it.
Cheers peeps
Catcha later.
Quality work chaps... coming on amazingly fast... many hands make light work I suppose.... But now I know your secret weapon, the rechargable snapon gun...... muhahahahahahahahaaaaaawwwwwww
Wow - thats the shortest time I've ever had a car - picked up sunday, scrapped wednesday. :)
Coming on very nicely now guys. See you tomorrow (or looking at the time, later today :P ).
lodgeman
29-06-2006, 02:41
cant believe that you could do that to the rover[:( what was it a parts car for peebs?oops sorry was that a secret? fellow rover owner now! begining to get a soft spot for the thing..........
about half way down the garden by the rose bush !!!!!!!!!rotflmao rotflmao
good work by the way chaps :thumbsup:
Paul Woods
29-06-2006, 07:01
quality spannering chaps,really going great guns there! an observation if i may,that cam timing is definately out but its impossible for it to be 1.5 teeth out,its either 1 or 2 teeth out so make sure that crank is on TDC and everything else is lined up,its also easy to fit the cam pulleys back to front (hi jiff!!! :) ) which WILL cause a half tooth discrepancy on the cam timing.
From memory the left pulley has 3v and 4v on its face,that faces outwards and the cam dowel is located at 3v.The right pulley has an outer lip facing outwards and a small notch on the outer rim....tell me to shut up if im being mr patronising!
But def cant be 1.5 teeth out,belt wont allow that.
Nice EGR blanking work there peebs! ive done the same to lodges.... you got rid of that camry in record time! nice skip driver skills too,lifting both in one go :clap:
Sponge Bob
29-06-2006, 08:05
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/Peebs_2006/ComingApart1.jpg
So it's not just me that steals the washing up gloves on a regular basis :) lol
You are motoring on this one Paul - spot on work mate!!
Wow - thats the shortest time I've ever had a car - picked up sunday, scrapped wednesday. :)
Coming on very nicely now guys. See you tomorrow (or looking at the time, later today :P ).
Lodge, the rover was a parts car for Anna's motor , well that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it :) And good ridance to it too. Yak, nasty. Did I just say Rover ? spit, spit.
Hehe, yeah chears Paul, was just a figure of speech really. Don't worry, we won't be doing a Jifster on this one, opps Soz matey l:)
Know what you mean about the skip truck guy, he obviously knew what he was doin' on that score.
Hehe, those are medical grade, nitrile gloves matey. They give good protection from lots of chemicals and won't melt from contact with solvents. Best thing is they let your hands breath, although they do cost twice as much as latex ones.
See here...
http://www.securitydirect.co.uk/acatalog/Latex_Gloves.html
Paul Woods
29-06-2006, 19:03
peebs i must take issue with you on this point though...
Here's me attacking the cam pulleys - ugly bast ain't I ? hehe
thats very unfair on yourself mate,...................you arent a bastard lol
Marksman
29-06-2006, 19:08
Sorry couldn't resist...
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/06/160.jpg
O.S.
LoL, you guys crack me up.
:)
Okay today's update is a little breif. And, this is where things are gonna slow down a bit too...
We found yesterday that a couple of the tensioner and idler bearings on the cam belt side on the engine were quite badly shot. So Fizzy ordered a few more bits from the states. Anyone know how long stuff takes to arrive from the US, as a general rule ?
He's going to replace all the bearings, oil pump and water pump. Along with a full head gasket set, gearbox drain plugs and new flywheel bolts. He also has ordered an ally fly, which is currently sitting in customs, we believe.
He bought his MR2 up to us today (damn I forgot to take a piccie - how did I do that ?) along with a few goodies, including
New fly bolts, new gearbox oil, a great looking air filter complete with intake housing and new gearbox plugs. - more pics I forgot, opps. Will grab tomorrow
After taking Fizz to the train station, I got busy with this...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day4/ACIS1.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day4/ACIS2.jpg
...this...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day4/ISCV.jpg
...and this.
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day4/TB.jpg
I also painted the plenum silver grey, again forgot piccies, hehe what am I like !
superchargedsam
29-06-2006, 21:41
far too shiny that will never work !
lodgeman
29-06-2006, 22:04
yep ! agree with sam , too shiny definately wont work or if it does it will just slow it down to 4age pace!!! lol lol
hey peebs do you want to secretly swap rover pics? lol lol under the counter like? nudge nudge wink wink say no more!
hey peebs do you want to secretly swap rover pics? lol lol under the counter like? nudge nudge wink wink say no more!
What Rover pics, you have seen all the ones I have hehe.
And whats wrong with summat being clean ?
:)
OI ! Dog head...piss off ! It was a tub of Tuffanega actually !
For the extra grind factor...
lol
Sponge Bob
29-06-2006, 23:35
Damn nice Jon mate... looks spotless!!
edit... wakes up lol
Paul Woods
30-06-2006, 06:59
far too clean looking! :) that reminds me i must decoke my acis soon,they reckon its good for a few bhp you know!
Thats looking excellent, how are you cleaning up the parts?
Puzzled fizzies dad ,Why have you got to order spares from America . I thought Toyota were Japanees Also there is a Whacking Toyota factory in Derbyshire .Just a query i am quite shure you know what you are doing as i saw when i was there is this the state of the motor industry now in this country
His' Fizzy's Dad, some parts are much cheaper if ordered from the US, so he decided to do that, even though it may take a couple of weeks for them to arrive, but we have plenty to be getting on with, for now anyway :)
Parts are getting cleaned the same way that I have done it since I was a wee lad messing with my scramblers...
Traffic film remover - (used to use washing up liquid and water)
Stiff bristled brushes
Oven cleaner - for tougher stuff
Some fine grade Scotchbrite - for the really tuff stuff
Dremel to finish/polish
Easy Peasy, Lemon Squeezy :mrgreen:
Cleaning your ACIS valve has been found to free up around 15-25bhp, as it cokes up over time, due to the EGR chucking loads of nasty stuff back into the engine. But seeing as we are removing the EGR and both crankcase breathers (connected to the plenum), coking of the ACIS valve, throttle body and the inside of the plenum should not be an issue for the rest of the engines life.
Jiff Lemon
30-06-2006, 13:48
Anyone know how long stuff takes to arrive from the US, as a general rule ?
Took my flywheel 3 weeks to come through
Easy Peasy, Lemon Squeezy :mrgreen:
You hinting at something there? Gonna have to send BSM round if you carry on!:nunu: :D
Fizzies dad thanks for that info , KEEP up the good work looking forward to seing finished product all the best DAve
Took my flywheel 3 weeks to come through
Phew I hope it doesn't take that long for the head gaskets to arrive Jiffy.
You hinting at something there? Gonna have to send BSM round if you carry on!:nunu: :D
What if I am ? I am Tony's BSM, hehe. :) :box2:
Well anyways, not a lot happened swap wise today as Tony has been busily finishing off his own swap and I have been running around buying this and that for Fizzy's swap.
What little did happen were a few photos of the car, the nice shiney new bits
and some other stuff (will post up later - need to sort webspace). We also disconnected all the gubbins in the engine bay ready for us to drop the lump out on Monday.
So here, finaly, is tonight's update.
Here's the car getting jacked up and secured firmly with ramps and old scaffold boards. I know it looks a bit dodgey, but I can tell you from my previous work, on my own car, that you can literally try to rock the car off this arrangement from any direction you like and it just will not budge an inch. (assuming it's sitting on level ground that is)
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day5/Car.jpg
Don't worry about the parts being taken off Fizz, they will be kept in a safe place with a cover over them till we need to re-fit them. Lovely colour isn't it ?
Also, we have taken precautions with the paintwork at the rear of the car...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day5/Covers.jpg
(P.S. Sorry for the seat logos guys, all we could muster :)
Please note Fizzy, your chassis rails are in good hands...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day5/Rubber.jpg
...see, Adam, vultures we may be, but everything has it's uses. This is a bit of boot rubber sealing, form the Camry, around the sill's edge to protect from damage. A four post ramp, my welder for a four post ramp :)
Hmm, I am beginning to wonder about Tony's mechanical knowledge, as it seem he can't even find the engine...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day5/WheresEngine1.jpg
...nope it's not here either Tone...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day5/WheresEngine2.jpg
Here Tony, Ill give you a clue...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day5/TubbyLump.jpg
Ah, he seems to have found out where it is now...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day5/TonyBay.jpg
We found out that some of the wiring, especially the piggyback Greddy system, left a lot to be desired for...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day5/Wires.jpg
Some other pics I forgot to get yesterday...
Tony found that a little washer sized piece of metal, that had been sitting under one of the head bolts since the day the engine was assembled, probably a casting fault, maybe one to watch out for guys...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day5/CastingFault.jpg
Some nice shiney new bits that Fizzy bougth with him...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day5/NewBits.jpg
Ohh, this bit looks fammiliar...I wonder where he got that ?
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day5/EBkt.jpg
And the plenum looks to have dried off nicely in the night...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day5/Plenum.jpg
Marksman
01-07-2006, 00:41
Hi chaps.
Hmm, who needs an alarm? Just put your MR2 in a Seat suit...
Too many chairs in that workshop, though maybe they're for guests?
Nice to see your drill press is bigger than your oven too.
Right enough of the:poke2:, time to say that I'm rather impressed with the work so far. Splended. As for bits from the states I've found it depends very much on the shipping method, less than a week I think is our record though up to a month for the slow boat option. If you happen to use city link then that'll probably double that too :naughty:
BTW fizzy that is a nice coloured car.
All the best lads,
Owen.
Hi chaps.
Hmm, who needs an alarm? Just put your MR2 in a Seat suit...
Too many chairs in that workshop, though maybe they're for guests?
Nice to see your drill press is bigger than your oven too.
Right enough of the:poke2:, time to say that I'm rather impressed with the work so far. Splended. As for bits from the states I've found it depends very much on the shipping method, less than a week I think is our record though up to a month for the slow boat option. If you happen to use city link then that'll probably double that too :naughty:
BTW fizzy that is a nice coloured car.
Hehe Owen, you know we'd love to do Seats...not !
All the best lads,
Owen.
Chairs are, as you say, mainly for guests, but Tony likes to park his saggy old butt from time to time, so they come in handy there too (think I'm in for a wallop :slap: for that comment tomorrow) tee hee.
Oven, what oven ? I see no ships ?
Thanks for the kind words matey and the info on shipping, will ask Fizz which options he went for :thumbsup:
And yes, we both love the colour too, so does Anna (she's back home now :)
See ya later folks.
More update progress to follow next week.
Paul Woods
01-07-2006, 07:03
superb work chaps,every angle covered! fizzy thats a nice colour mate,i do like that a lot. :popcorn:
I've used EMS for quite a few things from the states, and this has usually always taken about a week.
That plenum looks great,
Lovely colour fizz, rev5 spoiler too.
lodgeman
01-07-2006, 09:37
looking good guys, will be looking forward to seeing this one! pull your finger out and it will be at jae! lol lol
looking good guys, will be looking forward to seeing this one! pull your finger out and it will be at jae! lol lol
Hehe, yeah if the parts arrive in good time matey :)
Oh that colour is sooooo. nice.
Sadly my car needs a new engine more than it needs a respray. :(
Mmm. Colour, spoiler and clear corners all looking very nice.
Just got back from my weekend break away, currently at my parents - been catching up, checking out the pics... :D
Thanks for the nice comments guys. I like the colour as well - carribean blue - shame they only did it for a couple of years?
Guys - a little set back with the parts. While on my weekend away, I got a phone call from the place I ordered the parts on line from. Apparantly they can't authenticate the card I used (mastercard) - something to do with the amount I spent - so have asked me to photocopy both sides of the card, and fax it to them along with a (obviously printed) copy of the invoice I received via email.
Does this sound ok?
As for delivery - they didn't really give an option - it just said "best available". Considering it came to about a 3rd of the cost of the order it should be courier service I would have thought!
If I have the option I'll get it sent by ups or something to get her asap... ;)
Did you have that Guinnes for me matey ? Hope you had a good time.
Yeah we love the colour too, so does Anna, I don' really see how anyone could not like it TBH. :)
As for the parts setback, it would be great to receive them sometime in the next weeks and a half, cross yer fingers matey, could even be done for JAE if they arrive for then...
Marksman
02-07-2006, 23:54
Which company did you use in the US Fizzy?
Cheers,
Owen.
Which company did you use in the US Fizzy?
Cheers,
Owen.
Ended up using a company called "rock auto"? There was another one which had a nice complete timing belt set (belt, all puleys, hydraulic tensioner, water pump) for a good price but they only shipped to the us and canada.
Did you have that Guinnes for me matey ? Hope you had a good time.
Yeah we love the colour too, so does Anna, I don' really see how anyone could not like it TBH. :)
As for the parts setback, it would be great to receive them sometime in the next weeks and a half, cross yer fingers matey, could even be done for JAE if they arrive for then...
Yup - had a great time. Had a few pints of guiness in dublin, and even went to the guiness visitors centre too. :D
Believe it or not it actually the first time I have left the mainland - so the ferry crossing etc was all new for me. I nice break away. :D
I'll get cracking on sorting out the order today.... :D
They would want the photocopies of the card to authenticate it, Don't worry as your protected when you use a credit card, as technically it's the credit card company's money, I recently thought i was being conned, phoned card company, they said that i would'nt lose out if the goods did'nt arrive, but turned up in the end.
Also with card fraud, if you don't have the insurance they offer, you are only responsible for the first ?50 of unauthorised use.
Just one question Fizzy: Where is the locking key for your alloys?
Its a right pita trying to drop the rear sus with the wheels still on. :)
:blush: I knew there was something else I was going to bring up with me...
....nah, seriously its in that little coin pocket/draw thingy at the lower right hand side of the steering wheel?
Look what I just picked up...
...an americana pizza, extra crunchy, with toppings of nuts and a serated crust....:boogie:
http://www.wizardry.plus.com/mr2pics/flywheel.jpg
I got stung almost ?50 by parcel force for import duty and handling fees though. 8O
All I gotta do now it get it up to you guys. Should I send it asap, or wait until the rest of the stuff arrives and just drive up with the lot? :D
Marksman
03-07-2006, 18:15
Erm..... Looks the bizz though! :)
Yup, seconded. In fact if you drill another couple of holes in it it'd make a perfect jig for modyfying standard flywheels :whistle:
O.S.
Paul Woods
03-07-2006, 18:26
i ordered a 16" pepperoni,just send it up to woodsport...i'll make sure it goes to a good home lol
Marksman
03-07-2006, 18:30
You could flog the sticker to an ebay Max-Muppet and get another fiver off the cost price...
O.S.
I think I had different size hubnuts on the original GT4 outer CV joints, I couldn't see why either!!!
That Fidanza flywheel looks brilliant doesn't it and you'll soon forget the financial pain especially when you have started it up and blip the throttle.
Every time I start mine I giggle at the throttle response.
Looks like your getting on well guys BRAVO!!!!
Colossus
03-07-2006, 22:10
Hi guys,
Fizzy's younger brother here.... Just thought I'd congratulate you on a job well done so far!
:cool:
You could flog the sticker to an ebay Max-Muppet and get another fiver off the cost price...
O.S.
Yeah - especially as it gives you a 15bhp boost, and makes your car accelerate faster...... :P
Sorry about the lack of updates and pictures on this thread guys. I had a bit of bad news over the weekend - a good friend of mine had a real bad motorcycle accident on saturday arvo and as I don't know his family too well (till now) I have been busy trying to gain acces to him (he is on a ventilator in the critical trauma unit in Birmingham - close friends and family only).
He has broken a lot of bones including all but 2 of his ribs, and as such is being kept under sedation for his comfort and body stress relief, thankfully though (even with a fractured skull) he was talking coherently just a few hours after the accident to his sister.
Seems like panic time is over now though and have been to visit today, he looks his normal colour (a good sign) and is fighting back very well considering the injuries sustained. Needless to say the guy is gonna be in hospital for a long long time.
May take a while to get the thread back up to speed but as you see, Tony has been busily spannering away by himself and has made good progress in my absence, thanks mate.
Please, if any of you out there are relegious or are a healer of any sort, say a prayer for him or channel your ernergies to him. His name is Ian, and to be honest he could do with all the help he can get right now, thanks in advance.
Peebs
Marksman
05-07-2006, 00:08
TFFT. So glad he's taken a turn for the better, awsome news Peebs.
Now finish polishing that... ... pretty coloured MK2.
All the best mate,
Owen.
Thanks for that Owen, I am much happier now I have seen him THB. I was expecting much worse than what I saw today (now yesterday - looking at time).
As Owen has said, thankfully he's taken a turn for the better, I ride myself and This is always in the back of your mind, I hope Ian will be back to fighting strength sooner.
Sponge Bob
05-07-2006, 09:22
Yeah, glad to hear he's getting better Jon... didn't sound like he was going to make it on Sunday!! Hope he makes a full one and gets back on bikes asap mate...
Glad to hear the news about my namesake. :D Sounds like he's on the mend.
My 2 brothers are bike riders, and have had their fair share of bumps and bruises over the years. Not a bike rider myself (probably due to seeing accidents etc myself), although I do appreciate the technology/mechanics behind them... :D
On another good note - sent my details to Rock auto on monday, via email. 8O Not heard anything and the order status hasn't changed. Decided to give 'em a call - and have been informed that the email was received and the goods have been dispatched on monday - just awaiting the EMS delivery number to be given to them in order to update the order status online. :boogie:
So hopefully should be here by the end of next week? (EMS is pretty fast service I believe?). :jump:
EMS is good, it gets delivered by parcel force here in the UK, about a week should do it.
Thats great news on the postal side guys.
And you know what Fizz, I hadn;t even realized you shared the same name with my friend just just now reading this post - I must admit I am in a little bit of shock myself, who knows how his family feel... I'll try to get things back up to speed asap, but my mind is in the clouds atm, thanks for your patience and suport guys, all will be back to normal soon I hope.
Did some work on your engine today Fizzer, looks like your clutch is shot matey here's a few pics. Don't know how long it's been in the car, but TBH we would not recommend you go for a refit or an exact replacement with this swap. These types of cutches are not really intended for road use and the extra power will shorten the life of this type quite considerably. We recommend you go for an OEM standard jobbie suitable for an MR2 Turbo, will get you a price on one tomorrow.
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day8/BackPlate.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day8/Flywheel.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day8/FrictionPlate.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day8/WornOut.jpg
Did some work on your engine today Fizzer, looks like your clutch is shot matey here's a few pics. Don't know how long it's been in the car, but TBH we would not recommend you go for a refit or an exact replacement with this swap. These types of cutches are not really intended for road use and the extra power will shorten the life of this type quite considerably. We recommend you go for an OEM standard jobbie suitable for an MR2 Turbo, will get you a price on one tomorrow.
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg
Ahh cr*p - more expense. Does look a little shot doesn't it? Its actually an uprated helix clutch (not sure if its a stage 1, 2 or whatever) that was in the car when I bought it - which was 2.5 years ago, and around 25k miles - so not done too bad I guess for a performance clutch, considering not certain how it was used before I got it..?
Not been slipping at all, although had started making one or two odd noises ocassionally when engaging after a long motorway run the last few weeks, thought it was just the heat..... guess I know why now. :(
Let me know costs etc - probably a good idea to get thrust bearing replaced at same time? What make of clutch would you recommend if I did want to go down the supercharger route at a later date?
edit: gtschris.com sell oem turbo clutch kits for ?159.99 - that sound about right?
edit 2: fensport do an oem one for the same price, and a standard toyota one for ?200 (both +vat and p&p). Theres also these which I've heard mention of before... http://www.turboclutch.com/sport_toyot.html ...which do a mild upgrade (solid disk/non paddle) 320 torque one which looks ok?
On reflection - I would have had to change it regardless of whether I was getting the v6 installed or sticking with the tubby engine.
The V6SC conversion is using a GT4 clutch apparantly (which is the same as a turbo mr2 I believe) from what I can see so I guess an oem one will be fine if I go SC - in fact as its a smoother power delivery I would guess its easier on the clutch anyway compared to a turbo?
May have a pop into the local toyota dealership lunchtime just to see how much they charge for clutch kits....if only for comparison. ;)
Driftin_AW
06-07-2006, 11:27
have you thought about having the clutch re-lined and the pressure plate stone ground (as you do with flywheels)? IF the clutch isn't too old then there's nothing wrong with doing that, and it should last longer than a stocker would with lots of power + torque going through it
have you thought about having the clutch re-lined and the pressure plate stone ground (as you do with flywheels)? IF the clutch isn't too old then there's nothing wrong with doing that, and it should last longer than a stocker would with lots of power + torque going through it
Hmm.... interesting. The clutch is at a guess about 5 years old now, so probably up for a replacement anyway. If the stock clutch will cope easily with the V6 at standard, I'll probably go with that, as it will be quicker to source/sort, and have a nice light/progressive clutch again - which would also supplement the smoothness of the v6 nicely.
Jiff Lemon
06-07-2006, 12:14
I'm going with a standard clutch for mine. :)
May have a pop into the local toyota dealership lunchtime just to see how much they charge for clutch kits....if only for comparison. ;)
Well, been quoted ?238 for pressure plate, clutch and bearing by toyota - although that was apparantly "a rough guess" as they would need my chassis number etc to order correct parts - even though the part numbers looked ok from the epc I checked last night....and no idea how the chassis number would effect the price anyway, but you never know with toyota.... ;)
....and there also maybe a kit which is sold cheaper. usual 2 working day delivery time as well. So pretty easy to get.. :D
All I need to do now is find out if paying an extra ?60+ for a genuine toyota clutch over the "oem" ones sold elsewhere is worth it.. ;)
Hi Fizzy, shame about the clutch. I'd go for the standard one, then maybe I'll stop stalling your car every time I borrow it.:rolleyes:
Jiff Lemon
06-07-2006, 13:44
You checked out the local motor factors? heck I've seen them on ebay for ?130 including postage (no idea what they're like though!)
You checked out the local motor factors? heck I've seen them on ebay for ?130 including postage (no idea what they're like though!)
Hence why for peace of mind will probably get toyota branded (but not necesserily from toyota) so I'm reasonably confident about the quality... :P
Hi Fizzy, shame about the clutch. I'd go for the standard one, then maybe I'll stop stalling your car every time I borrow it.:rolleyes:
You could always "persuade" me to get a standard clutch via a financial contribution, if you don't want to keep on stalling it.... :whistle: :)
lodgeman
06-07-2006, 15:42
i have a new toyota oem clutch assembly fitted-paul says it is smooth with the v6, mind you that was a ebay bargain of the month ?40 delivered - guy bought it and never had it fitted and put it up ?40 buy it now free delivery:whistle: dont you just love some people lol
superchargedsam
06-07-2006, 15:49
lodge I dont remeber that one being on the "seen on ebay" section of the forum ! ;) ;) ;)
i have a new toyota oem clutch assembly fitted-paul says it is smooth with the v6, mind you that was a ebay bargain of the month ?40 delivered - guy bought it and never had it fitted and put it up ?40 buy it now free delivery:whistle: dont you just love some people lol
Hmm.... ebay... ;) Found this :-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300004753278
superchargedsam
06-07-2006, 16:05
cant be bad, suited for tubby and V6 applications so perfect choice !
lodgeman
06-07-2006, 17:28
lodge I dont remeber that one being on the "seen on ebay" section of the forum ! ;) ;) ;)
:whistle: one of the perks of the job?lol
superchargedsam
06-07-2006, 20:47
ah fairly snuff then Al ! ;)
Sounding good! My cars being pampered there - hope its not gonna get too used to it! ;) If you're feeling like pampering it some more there's plenty of stonechips on the front which could do with sorting out... :P
Checked my order on rock auto, and the timing belt and pulley kit has been shipped. All the rest of the items (I guess all from the same place as they are all "Beck" brand) are still "awaiting despatch" - but hopefully not for long!
The bits you could really do with first (such as the head gasket set) are bound to be the items that are shipped last...... :roll: Speaking of which - do you need a sump gasket now as well as its been taken off? Don't think thats included in the gasket set I bought......?
....just need to get the clutch sorted (genuine toyota or that ebay one - still undecided.. :shrug: - open to suggestions ;) ) and I think that should hopefully be all the parts needed....?
.....soooooooon...... :driving: :thumbsup: lol
Well impressive progress so far guys. Can't wait for Fizz to get it back so I can have a go........ If he'll let me of course!:pray: (he's not heavy, he's my brother!)
Peebs, hope your mate's doin ok. I'm a biker myself, and I've had to see a few of my friends spend some serious time in hospital so have a good idea what your goin through right now. Best wishes.
Sounding good! My cars being pampered there - hope its not gonna get too used to it! ;) If you're feeling like pampering it some more there's plenty of stonechips on the front which could do with sorting out... :P
Checked my order on rock auto, and the timing belt and pulley kit has been shipped. All the rest of the items (I guess all from the same place as they are all "Beck" brand) are still "awaiting despatch" - but hopefully not for long!
The bits you could really do with first (such as the head gasket set) are bound to be the items that are shipped last...... :roll: Speaking of which - do you need a sump gasket now as well as its been taken off? Don't think thats included in the gasket set I bought......?
....just need to get the clutch sorted (genuine toyota or that ebay one - still undecided.. :shrug: - open to suggestions ;) ) and I think that should hopefully be all the parts needed....?
.....soooooooon...... :driving: :thumbsup: lol
Stone chips are a bast with metallic paint matey, maybe should leave those to the bodywork guys...
Great news on the parts, or at leat some of them :)
Probably about right on the head gasket there matey, not sure on the sump gasket, as Tony took that off and have not inspected it's condition myself, though I'm sure he'll post its serviceabilty up here soon enough. We are a bit like ships that pass in the night at the moment...
The OEM NA clutch I bought last has covered around 2500, hard driven, miles before swap and is holding on to the v6 power nicely so far. I would suggest you go for the OEM rather than Toyota item if I were you. I used a "blueprint" clutch kit, which was the OEM company name, comprising of backplate, friction plate and thrust bearing.
Peebs, hope your mate's doin ok. I'm a biker myself, and I've had to see a few of my friends spend some serious time in hospital so have a good idea what your goin through right now. Best wishes.
Cheers Jonno, appreciate that mate. His condition is improving slowly, just gotta hope and pray for now.
The OEM NA clutch I bought last has covered around 2500, hard driven, miles before swap and is holding on to the v6 power nicely so far. I would suggest you go for the OEM rather than Toyota item if I were you. I used a "blueprint" clutch kit, which was the OEM company name, comprising of backplate, friction plate and thrust bearing.
Does this one appear ok? I'm sure I've heard of people using this company with no problems before....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4649188121
Sponge Bob
07-07-2006, 01:54
Does this one appear ok? I'm sure I've heard of people using this company with no problems before....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4649188121
I bought one of those exact ones today from those guys - they said it should arrive tomorrow - so if you want, I can take pictures of it and upload them / let you know if it arrives safe, etc etc so you know whether to buy!!
I bought one of those exact ones today from those guys - they said it should arrive tomorrow - so if you want, I can take pictures of it and upload them / let you know if it arrives safe, etc etc so you know whether to buy!!
Wow, thanks! That would be great. :D If quality is up to scratch, its a good price. ;)
Sponge Bob
07-07-2006, 12:05
Well i've been informed that it has arrived already - so at least they're tip top on the delivery side of things... shall check quality and post some pictures later for you mate, although i'm sure it will be fine if i'm honest... sound like a good company.
Jiff Lemon
07-07-2006, 12:19
ah tis "day of the clutch" today then - Mine just arrived too!
Dakin clutch kit should be fine Fizz.
For now...some more engine porn pics...
A nice clean head is always a good sign...
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/
...but you must make sure to polish the underside too :)
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/
Hmm, not a glimmer of sludge in the sump, well not now anyways.
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/
The block is painted and ready to go...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day9/Block.jpg
...along with the alternator also.
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day9/Alt.jpg
More updates to come on Monday.
See ya later guys 'n' gals.
Paul Woods
07-07-2006, 23:39
:thumbsup: ..... :popcorn:
Wow!!!!! Looking real nice there... Great job guys! :clap:
Just had an email too informing me that my order from rock auto has been despatched - so fingers crossed should be here for next weekend. :boogie:
I'll order the clutch off ebay too - so should have a nice little (or not so little ;) ) bundle of goodies to bring up soon!
edit: Oh yeah, also received the registration docs for the camry this morning. Ticked the "scrapped" box, dated and signed it - posted this evening. :P
Great, running a bit low on stuff to do now matey.
BTW, do you ever sleep ? Or are you some relation to Lodgeman ?
Tee Hee :)
:photos: keep em coming guys
really enjoying this thread,:popcorn:
top work there, i'm sure fizzy is like an expectant father
superchargedsam
08-07-2006, 12:51
Peebs how are you getting things so clean fella especially the alternator cap or did you paint that as well ? Its all looking amazingly clean thats for sure !
Great, running a bit low on stuff to do now matey.
BTW, do you ever sleep ? Or are you some relation to Lodgeman ?
Tee Hee :)
Yeah, I sleep... ;) I'm sure one of my ancestors must have been a vampire or something. I tend to revert to being nocturnal in nature pretty easily - especially if I'm on hols....
..being a big coffee drinker :coffee: doesn't help I guess... ;)
:sndmail: :mail: :toms: :eekdoor: :rasp: - I like a lot of the emotes/smileys on here...
Ditto what sam says
How are you getting things soooo clean
Hmm - at a rough guess, I would say degreaser, some elbow grease and then some metal polish afterwards. Being able to strip it down into its component parts, as well as having a dremel or similar tool helps loads.... ;) as does having a lot of patience and the time to do it...
I guess the same applies to a lot of things - its amazing how good things look if you take the time to strip it all down, and clean out the muck from all the nooks and crannies, and bits you could never get to if you left it in one piece.. :P
Thats how I clean up pc's, electrical gear and the like anyhow. No metal polish involved there of course!!! rotflmao
Fizzy's right right guys,
Time is your enemy, but patience is your friend.
The alternator took around an hour and a half - not bad really considering.
I removed the pressed ally cover, applied a little TFR on a 1/2" stiff bristle brush, to the main body, softening the crud that had collected on it, then wiped the major stuff off with a clean dry cloth. Then, using a dremmel with a soft wire brush, bought the surface back to a nearly new looking condition. The shiney ally cover took around 20 mins with a soft nylon dremmel bit and a little T-Cut, though brasso works just as well, then polished it up with another clean rag.
Thanks for all the interest and kind comments guys, makes it all worthwhile :)
head looking nice and fresh there peebs, what did you use on that if anything?
Pretty much the same way Adam, but that requires a soft brass brushing over also, to remove the coking. Gasket surface is done with 1200 grit paper folded round a bit of wide flat bar and WD40 sprayed on to help smoothing.
superchargedsam
09-07-2006, 19:45
peebs you got any patience I can borrow ?
peebs you got any patience I can borrow ?
Sure, but I it'll cost ya...got any time to trade for it ?
tee hee :)
superchargedsam
09-07-2006, 22:58
oddly enough I do now have loads of that on my hands !
oddly enough I do now have loads of that on my hands !
Kewl, come on up and polish these bloody, feckin, anyoin lil' nooks 'n' crannies for me then matey, hehehe.
"shows a picture of a patient face"
superchargedsam
09-07-2006, 23:16
yeah but in my case time doesnt equal patience !
Hehe, okay Sam I'll plod on with it myself :)
Well, todays work consisted of yet more cleaning, polishing and painting. I did get some photo's, then went and left the camera behind - slaps forehead !
Will get them posted up tomorrow.
^ go stand in the corner :mrgreen:
sam cleaning and polishing,..... aint gonna happen, I rekon its gonna be me polishing his car before JAE as well just to get it to shine nicely. Although I'm not very good at it
superchargedsam
10-07-2006, 23:20
i thought about washing it today then it feckin rained yet again so not much point ! I rekon Peebs should give a parts polishing and cleaning course at the JAE !
there so much wax on mine I can just get a clean cloth and wipe the dirt off without washing it now. Good idea for peebs tho could teachus all a thing or 2, ill bring along my claybr and wax and see what he can do with that :)
I rekon Peebs should give a parts polishing and cleaning course at the JAE !
Now that's an IDEA
He can use my engine (if i get it in time) to do the demmo on :whistle:
Sponge Bob
11-07-2006, 13:17
Got to say Jon - you are doing a magnificent job on this...Fizzy is going to have one mint car by the time you're finished with it!!!
Look what had been dropped off with a neighbour today....
http://www.wizardry.plus.com/mr2pics/ClutchBox.jpg
http://www.wizardry.plus.com/mr2pics/Clutch1.jpg
http://www.wizardry.plus.com/mr2pics/Clutch3.jpg
http://www.wizardry.plus.com/mr2pics/Clutch2.jpg
....thankfully they don't have an mr2, but do have a big guard dog... :)
Doesn't look too bad, and I'm sure I've seen this brand used by toyota themselves on other stuff?
Just waiting for the stuff from the states now... :whistle:
Thats the one i put in my car and is the same as come from the factory, it put up with 5 years of santa pod style driving and 255 40 17 tyres without slipping . Mind you did cost me 250 notes back in '01 :eek2:
Ah, excellent...a clutch ! Are you still planning a visit this weekend Fizzy ? I hope so :) We are just about out of work, apart from the cam covers and central intake manifold, which should be ready by friday.
Lessons in cleaning and polishing your bell housing at JAE will be charged at the rate of ?500 per hour - well I have to pay the beer tent man somehow, don't I ? :beer:
Here are a couple of pics I grabbed from yesterday, not much happened with swap work today as we both had a few other things to sort out. Back to the grindstone tomorrow though...or should that be flapwheel ? :mrgreen:
A few more polished bit 'n' pieces...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day10/Bits.jpg
...and for comparison, this is what most of them looked like a few hours before...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day10/Comp.jpg
...bleh!
A few other thing have been cleaned or painted too, but who wants to look at a piccie of a shiney black alternator bracket, hehe.
Seeya later peeps.
Wow!!! All nice and blingy.... I won't wanna take it out on the dusty public roads at this rate... :P :praise2: :boogie:
Yup, intend to pop up on Sunday all being well (not too early mind! ;) ), especially if the rest of the parts from the U.S. turn up. May also have an older brother in tow too.... he wants to have a look, and I think he wants to check out your car too. ;)
Also decided to buy a set of poly bushes from twos'r'us after all - guess I should have got them sent straight up to you directly asap if you're running out of stuff to do.... ;)
Actually - while you have you're polishing gear out (oh oh! :rolleyes: ) - can you check the exhaust tips? I had a go a them before (with a kitchen pan scrubber pad :icon_eek: ) but they still seem to have a lot of ...erm... bits on 'em? No idea if its tar, bits of metal or what....probably take you 5 mins to sort out the rate your goin'..... :P
Anyhow - fingers crossed the us parts should be winging their way through customs by now...
...and for comparison, this is what most of them looked like a few hours before...
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg
...bleh!
Wow - whats all this lot then? Take it coolant sensors - one for ecu, one for temp gauge, but what are the other two with the extra pipe connections? Guess theres also a cold start one somewhere - guess thats the one in the thermostat housing?
Sponge Bob
12-07-2006, 00:34
Dude!!! That bay is going to be gleaming...!! You're really going to town on getting this car looking good guys.
Paul Woods
12-07-2006, 06:34
i'll say! superb work there guys,above and beyond the call of duty :thumbsup:
:jump: peebs, youve gone polishing mad! nice work :beer:
Today saw the intake manifold get blasted and painted, the cam covers got blasted too, but won't be painted till tomorrow, will save the pics up till all three parts are finished.
Wow!!! All nice and blingy.... I won't wanna take it out on the
dusty public roads at this rate... :P :praise2: :boogie:
Yup, intend to pop up on Sunday all being well (not too early mind! ;) ),
especially if the rest of the parts from the U.S. turn up. May also have an
older brother in tow too.... he wants to have a look, and I think he wants to
check out your car too. ;)
Also decided to buy a set of poly bushes from twos'r'us after all - guess I
should have got them sent straight up to you directly asap if you're running
out of stuff to do.... ;)
Actually - while you have you're polishing gear out (oh oh! :rolleyes: ) - can
you check the exhaust tips? I had a go a them before (with a kitchen pan
scrubber pad :icon_eek: ) but they still seem to have a lot of ...erm... bits
on 'em? No idea if its tar, bits of metal or what....probably take you 5 mins
to sort out the rate your goin'..... :P
Anyhow - fingers crossed the us parts should be winging their way through
customs by now...
Well, we're not gonna let you have it back unless its dry and sunny, rofl.
Sunday is fine matey, older bro welcome too.
Yes Fizzy, best to have the bushes sent direct to us do you still have the unit addy ?
Will have a go at the exhaust tips for you too, when it's ready to go back on.
As for the blue thingys, they are bsv's, which are thermally operated vacuum switching valves. The bottom one, with the grey cap, was for EGR (which is no longer fitted so is now not used) and the top one runs to the fuel evap canister.
Today saw the intake manifold get blasted and painted, the cam covers got blasted too, but won't be painted till tomorrow, will save the pics up till all three parts are finished.
Well, we're not gonna let you have it back unless its dry and sunny, rofl.
Hmm... thats gonna make interesting arranging when I wanna pick it up. Guess I better start discussing the weather with the big guy... :pray: :P
Sunday is fine matey, older bro welcome too.
Yes Fizzy, best to have the bushes sent direct to us do you still have the unit addy ?
Will have a go at the exhaust tips for you too, when it's ready to go back on.
Thanks for that Jon. Erm... the bushes were ordered a couple of days ago, and I found a "we tried delivering a parcel" card from royal mail today when I got home, so I'm guessing its the bushes (as the US stuff should arrive via parcelforce?). :whistle:
Guess I'll know for sure tomorrow. Assume I may as well just bring them up on Sunday rather than post 'em now? Although if I get 'em posted to you first class tomorrow should be with you Friday.... ;) Got the unit addy around somewhere......
As for the blue thingys, they are bsv's, which are thermally operated vacuum switching valves. The bottom one, with the grey cap, was for EGR (which is no longer fitted so is now not used) and the top one runs to the fuel evap canister.
Ahhh... so thats what they do... (or don't do now ;) ).
:boogie::boogie::boogie::boogie::boogie:
Well, had a letter this morning from Parcelforce stating that they had a parcel for me awaiting duty payment.......
......so popped down to swansea at lunchtime, and collected it. Turns out the 2nd parcel had been delivered there this morning too..... :boogie:
...bad bit is that I was stung almost ?95 in import charges and handling fees. As they were two seperate packages/deliveries, got charged ?13.50 "parcel force handling fee" on each one. >:(
Soooooo had a quick scan through it all and all looks present and correct. One thing that looks a bit unusual is that the "cog" on the waterpump appears to be smooth, and not......erm... teethed? Is the existing one the same? (edit: just checked some of the earlier engine pics, and the water pump is indeed driven by the back/smooth side of the timing belt, so all is ok... ;) ).
Also picked up the parcel from the local royal mail office - which was indeed the bush set.
So thats the lot - although to round it off nicely, it would be great if the gear cables I bought 2nd hand turned up tomorrow... ;)
Hmm... what you doing tomorrow evening Peeps? ;)
Well Peebs is having his perm re-done i do know that. :)
Oi watchit AWD-boy !
That's great news Fizz,except for the import duty, eeek ! Bring 'em on up fella. What sort of time would you arriving if you came up tomorrow night ?
That's great news Fizz,except for the import duty, eeek ! Bring 'em on up fella. What sort of time would you arriving if you came up tomorrow night ?
Hmm... well, its gonna have to be after work, and even if I managed to leave "a bit early", probably get caught in the commuter traffic and all..... probably around 8-ish, maybe earlier if I'm lucky?
Unfortunately my big bro is kinda busy tomorrow so won't be able to make it. :(
I want update pics :woods:
please please please with a cherry on top
Ok, so probably not the sort of pics you were after... but.. :P
Loadsa boxes.....
http://www.wizardry.plus.com/mr2pics/Parts1.jpg
Basically, timing belt and pulley kit, plus a few extras while I was at it - oil pump, water pump, dizzy cap and rotor, new oil cap. :D
The main parts I was waiting for....
http://www.wizardry.plus.com/mr2pics/Parts2.jpg
List of contents :-
http://www.wizardry.plus.com/mr2pics/Parts4.jpg
...quite comprehensive! Will you be doing the valve stem seals and injector rings while its in bits (and 'cos there here :P ) Peebs? ;)
...and just 'cos I thought it was an opportune moment while the suspension is in bits...
http://www.wizardry.plus.com/mr2pics/Parts3.jpg
...so a few things there to keep you busy guys, including the clutch and flywheel I posted pics of earlier.
Well - with all the tlc the guys are putting into the engine, thought it deserved a good/full set of service parts to go with it. :P
splash the cash!, nice parts, well worth it
Fizzy pics just managed to subdue my craving :toke:
where did you get the gasket set
The poly bush kit
And I see your having the water pump done too (is this just a precaution)
I got the gasket set the same place I got everything (bar the bush set) - "Rock Auto" web shop in the states. The belt & pulley set is Gates brand, but all the rest is Beck/Arnley brand. I did have to pay a bit more for the gasket set than the ones advertised on ebay though.... but its a good quality set (or so I understand :P).
The bush set I got from two 'r us website. Delivered within 2 days of ordering too - top notch service!
As for the oil/water pump - yes, its mainly a precautionary thing. As all the timing stuff is being replaced (and given the mileage of the engine, and the fact that its easy to get to such stuff while the engines out ;) ) thought it would be wise to get the pumps changed to ensure that (all being well) it won't need to come out again/have any engine work for a very, very long time... also gives me the peace of mind knowing its been done. :D
Sponge Bob
14-07-2006, 01:05
:) lots of goodies... love it when car stuff comes in the post!!! hehe lol
Paul Woods
14-07-2006, 07:07
oooh lots of goodies,taking every precaution i see,very wise! this promises to be a stunning conversion fizzy,the lads are doing you proud!
oooh lots of goodies,taking every precaution i see,very wise! this promises to be a stunning conversion fizzy,the lads are doing you proud!
Yup, indeed they are. Well chuffed so far. :boogie:
Can't wait to get it back now..... :hyper: :jump:
David Sleith
14-07-2006, 10:28
Much do you reckon the swap is costing you Fiz?
You have spent a lot of Euro's on goodies
Much do you reckon the swap is costing you Fiz?
You have spent a lot of Euro's on goodies
Euro's?????? Good old ?'s and $'s mate - no mamby pamby monopoly money involved here..... :P
....well, actually its mostly plastic anyway so no matter either way.
Costs so far? Hmm... I dread to think. Not totted up the parts costs yet, and as I'm getting a few extra things done now (such as bushes etc) then this will obvious effect the cost of the job, which isn't technically part of the conversion.....
.....so its all a bit up in the air at the mo....:high: ;) Better get myself prepared... :believe: :eekdoor:
Jiff Lemon
14-07-2006, 15:11
Costs so far? Hmm... I dread to think. Not totted up the parts costs yet, and as I'm getting a few extra things done now (such as bushes etc) then this will obvious effect the cost of the job, which isn't technically part of the conversion.....
NEVER, i repeat, NEVER, even consider doing this; just hide the receipts, file em away or something, but never add them up.
No one likes to see grown men cry!
Jiff Lemon
14-07-2006, 16:16
OMG! Surely ebay could have provided for less? Or a decent exhaust fabber?
Right - a looooong trip up to drop off the parts (got stuck in major traffic jams, so took twice as long as normal. :( ) and to check out the car/bits/work in person. The guys are doing a cracking job soo far!! :thumbsup:
Got a bit lost in town, so rang Peebs who came to meet me in his 2. He's got the normal na exhaust back on for now, and I followed him with the windows down - and couldn't hear his engine at all! Wow its quiet....... until he boots it... :P
Also got the chance to check out the GT4V6 in person, and even had the honour of being taken for a spin in it. Great car!! Tony's done a cracking job on it. :D :thumbsup:
While I was there - Peebs suggested the obligatory engine bay shot....
http://www.wizardry.plus.com/mr2pics/OddEngine.jpg
.....no idea who that dodgy looking geezer is.... :whistle:
Soo.......the easy bit's taken care of (the taking appart), and now comes the tricky bit - trying to remember how to put it all back together. :P
Can't wait for it to be up and running, and to hear what it sounds like with a tubby mongoose exhaust.... :whistle: :twisted:
Paul Woods
15-07-2006, 06:45
it seems to be a twobrutal tradition that you have to stand where your engine used to be :)
We were going to weld Fizz into the back of his MR (coz he's quite a big lad - that two is about 900mm off the ground), but he escaped easily, just stepped out of the bay when we approached with the MIG.
It surely was a long day yesterday, especially for you Ian. Glad you made it back with okay in that poor lil Pug of yours full o' Camry parts.
Goodies Galore Guys 'n Gals - personally, I can't wait to bolt it all back together now...if only we can remember where it all goes...hmmm, what does this bit do again ?
:mrgreen:
We were going to weld Fizz into the back of his MR (coz he's quite a big lad - that two is about 900mm off the ground), but he escaped easily, just stepped out of the bay when we approached with the MIG.
Well, I know I'm rather attached to my car, but thats taking it a bit literally... :icon_eek: :P
Also gives a different meaning to the term "driving the car" too. Don't think a 2LP (leg/limb power ;) ) mr2 will be that good performance wise... :rofl:
It surely was a long day yesterday, especially for you Ian. Glad you made it back with okay in that poor lil Pug of yours full o' Camry parts.
Yup, it was indeed. For a while my pug had 15 inch alloy wheels with 205/60/15 tyres, large intercooler, unichip and boost module, uprated battery, part leather seats ......which certainly had an effect on the handling and performance.... :driving: :P
Goodies Galore Guys 'n Gals - personally, I can't wait to bolt it all back together now...if only we can remember where it all goes...hmmm, what does this bit do again ?
:mrgreen:
I can't wait for you to put it all back together either... ;) After going in the GT4, even with its "slight problem", made me appreciate (again ;) ) how good this engine is.. :D Going to be a lovely, smooth ride afterwards :driving: , especially as it will be back on a standard clutch and not that snatchy racey thing...:jump: Don't think its gonna be quiet though.. :twisted:
Next thing will be a full 4 wheel alignment to make sure its all 100% since the bushes are being changed, then possibly pampering the body work too.... :thumbsup:
Still got my 16" wheels to get refurbed too, once I figure out the best way/place to get split rims repaired.....?
A colleague at work has just bought a brand new Nissan 350Z GT. 3.5ltr of V6 goodness........sounds real nice even in stock form.
The 2 shouldn't be much different hopefully? Seems to have similar sizes tailpipes to the mongoose as well... :boogie:
It is pushing 300bhp mind, and is brand new... :P
...and cost loadsa money!! :doh:
Imagine how gutted he's gonna be when yours blows his into the weeds...;)
Lol - he is actually a she - and she upgraded from a honda civic type-r. :D
Still - the statistics of the car are pretty impressive! Recon a "mere" 200bhp/200lbft or so V6 mk2 will be quicker? Hmm....
....guess I'll have to find out.. :P
Sorry no updates for past two days, been a bit busy with a clutch swap on a very nice looking two. Couldn't turn it down really. Should get some more done tomorrow though.
:)
Sorry no updates for past two days, been a bit busy with a clutch swap on a very nice looking two. Couldn't turn it down really. Should get some more done tomorrow though.
:)
I dunno, I leave you alone for 5 minutes, and you're off messing with another mans clutch..... :gay: :P ;)
Okay here - at last - are some more piccies,
Some of the days we spent on the swap are being put into a video form, but here are some real cracking snaps while that gets done.
Ooo, I think I could almost go to sleep on here...
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day13/ValvesOut2.jpg
Valves going back in, all reassembled with sparing amounts of moly grease where required.
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day13/ValvesIn.jpg
Here's Tony giving some head - ooer missus
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day13/GivingHead.jpg
Hmmmmm....shiney.....
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day13/CamCoversP.jpg
We just love these V6's, beautiful lookin' lump ain't it ?
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day13/Engine0.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day13/Engine1.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day13/Engine2.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day13/Engine3.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day13/Engine4.jpg
More pics and hopefully a vid too tomorrow,
see ya laters
superchargedsam
25-07-2006, 21:45
mmm pure porn !
Marksman
25-07-2006, 21:46
Simply stunning gents!
Also far too good to put in a probe :icon_eek: Peebs? :hmm: You know that MK1you want to build :poke2: methinks that'd be just the job! In fact if you'd care to send me a nice big turbo then I'd be happy to lock Fizzy up in a cellar for say the next 10 years...
O.S.
Paul Woods
25-07-2006, 21:56
you lads need to watch a magpie doesnt swoop down and fly off with that engine! shiney shiney! :thumbsup:
Paul Woods
25-07-2006, 22:04
me? noooo! :) stirling work there guys,truely fantastic
mmm pure porn !
Ditto
Thats looks amaaaaaazing :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
:jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump:
:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:
:fit: :fit: :fit: :fit: :fit: :fit: :fit: :fit: :fit: :fit: :fit:
:boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie:
:jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump:
........as you can probably tell I'm getting a little excited now that the engine is looking (almost ;) ) complete once again.
Stunning work guys!! :thumbsup:
...and 'ands off everybody - its mine! All mine!! Mwah, mwahaha, mwaha hahahaha hahaha hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahaha! :twisted: :rofl:
;)
Okay here - at last - are some more piccies,
Hmmmmm....shiney.....
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day13/CamCovers.jpg
Hmm... what happened to this piccy then.... ;)
Sponge Bob
25-07-2006, 23:33
God damned gorgeous work lads!!! wish mine even slightly resembled the shinyness of that thing...
Hmm... what happened to this piccy then.... ;)
Opps, edit finito, hombre :mrgreen:
Looking at those pictures i would be frightened to take it out on the road and getting it dirty you are making a very good job you guys a credit to you it,s nice to see a well laid out and clean workshop someone who takes a pride in there work ,not all that many of them left ,looking forward to seeing the car finished ,definately give you a good ref Best wishes Fizzies dad DAVE,
Looking at those pictures i would be frightened to take it out on the road and getting it dirty you are making a very good job you guys a credit to you it,s nice to see a well laid out and clean workshop someone who takes a pride in there work ,not all that many of them left ,looking forward to seeing the car finished ,definately give you a good ref Best wishes Fizzies dad DAVE,
I was stuck in work until midnight last night, and was shattered - saw this post and starting thinking I must be posting in my sleep or something 'cos I couldn't remember writing it!! :doh:
I really must sort you out with your own i.d. dad.... lol
Sponge Bob
27-07-2006, 13:56
I'm sure the name Fizzy's Dad isn't taken ;)
Thanks for the kind words Fizzy & Fizzy's Pop, hehe Fizzy Pop, geddit ? ... Maybe a good username for you though...:) ...no? ....okay I'll shut up :mrgreen:
Had to do a bit of running around for a seal which was not supllied in the oil pump kit, will remember that one. A bit more bracketry done in the engine bay, just the replacement fan to mount up in there now. Still waiting on spark plugs fingers crossed they arrive tomorrow so we can finishe off the engine...speaking of which...here's a couple more piccies of the stage it's at now.
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day15/Engine1.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day15/Engine2.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day15/Engine3.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day15/Engine4.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day15/Engine5.jpg
:eek2: Wow - looking real nice there guys! :clap: :clap: :clap:
Not long now... :driving: Good job I had a handy server disaster at work to keep my mind of this for a couple of days... :mrgreen:
Well Fizzy I think you'll be pleased with today's swap progress....
Tony finished off the rest of the engine work, new plugs, oil filter, wiring loom, etc) and we fitted the flywheel, clutch and gearbox. (Tony has pics of these - need to get them, will add tomorrow)
Also I made an engine fan mounting plate...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day16/FanPlate.jpg
..and fitted the Fan.
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day16/FanInstalled.jpg
Now for the good bit...the engine's ready...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day16/EngineReady.jpg
...so we slide it in gently...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day16/GoingIn.jpg
...and ease it up inch by inch...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day16/GoingUp.jpg
...till it's all the way in !
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day16/EngineIn1.jpg
Mmmm, lovely :)
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Day16/EngineIn2.jpg
As you can see its a nice fit...but question is, would you prefer the cover on or off ? I like it without, Tony thinks it looks better with cover fitted, still we can decide that when you come to pick her up in a short while :mrgreen:
superchargedsam
28-07-2006, 23:37
looking good fellas !
:boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie:
Yeah!!! Engines in! Ever closer... ;) :driving:
The state of the gearbox tends to stand out a bit with the cracking clean up job you did on the engine though..... maybe I should have got you to paint that too... :P Ahh well, its hidden away low down in the engine bay, and most likely to get all the dirt off the road first anyway... :wierd2: ;)
As for the engine cover - erm.... I'll try it with the cover on for a bit, and if I prefer it bare I can always take it off later... :whistle:
Have you changed/drained the gearbox fluid yet? Just wondered if there has been any leak/loss through the drive shaft seal - as I understand thats a weak point on the E153 gearboxes?
Thought I saw a mention on a write-up on here about the modded turbo flywheel catching slightly on a small moulded section on the inside of the gearbox casing - everything look ok with the fidanza flywheel?
Doing a stirling job though guys - coming together nice and quickly now. :praise2: :clap: :clap: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie:
David Sleith
28-07-2006, 23:52
Looks like it came straight out the factory - spot on
Colossus
29-07-2006, 01:58
Fizzy's younger bro here, thought I'd chirp in :)
Really impressed with the work on this guys, also amazed at how fast your working through it.... :praise2:
So keep up the good work... me and a load of the guys in work are watching!!
:thumbsup:
:thumbsup:
Great work guy's:praise2:, I'm sure if you'd had the parts this would have been a very quick swap,
It's a shame you can't see more of the engine when it's in the bay, with all that detailing that's been done,
Still that means i don't have to have a uber clean and detailed engine in mine.
cover on me thinks :thumbsup:
Paul Woods
29-07-2006, 08:44
superb work fellas :thumbsup: ,fizzy how about using the ally acid on the box that i use? brush it on,leave a few minute,wash off....brand spanky looking gearbox.
Oh def cover on for me....thats a fantastic looking engine bay.
Paul Woods
29-07-2006, 09:01
i was supposed to get the name of it yesterday before i went and parked an mr2 in my eye.....its from neilsens and its industrial strength ally cleaner...similar to wheel acid,i'll grab the name on monday for you.
Had to do a bit of running around for a seal which was not supllied in the oil pump kit, will remember that one.
It wasn't the crankshaft oil seal by any chance? Strangely enough when I had the oil pump changed on the turbo engine, the garage needed to get hold of one of these because it wasn't included with the pump. It was a genuine toyota part/kit obtained from my local dealer too.
Glad you like it guys, and yeah would have been a fair bit quicker if we had all the parts, but as Fizzy wanted all that engine detailing done, it's all worked out about right so far.
Been a while, so I thought I would add my own update.... ;)
Well, Peebs and Tony have been beavering away on my car, and been a bit too busy to post any updates. :D
Basically, wiring is taking a while as typically my wiring colours are different to Peebs' car. (rev1 vs rev 3 uk car with engine transplant with interesting wiring mix.. ;) ) Exhaust has been done, cooling plumbed in, fuel lines done, clutch pipes refitted and bled.
Stuff still to do - finish off wiring, put in coolant and bleed, mt90 oil into the gearbox, induction kit/afm to be fitted....I think thats correct at the time of the last phonecall ;) ...and I'm sure theres a few other things to do.....:D
Peebs also found out the poly bush set I bought won't fit my car, and on checking it appears to be a kit for a rev1 mr2, and not a rev2+ as ordered. He's putting everything back as is now - I'll have to sort that out later. He has fitted the ARB poly bushes though.
Also speaking of poly bushes - due to an issue with alignment, and interference from the gear selector cable support (due to washers being used to space out the n/a cables to work on a turbo gearbox), the front engine mount has begone to tare - so looked into TRD engine mounts, then settled on a set of poly inserts for front and rear engine mounts. Not arrived at the guys garage yet though.... :(
So nearing completion bar a few last fidley bits and testing. Peebs was so busy he put his camera and memory stick "in a safe place", then forgotten where that was - as I tend to do a lot as well. Think he's found them now though so possibly some more pictures soon. :D
Only possible issue that may cause considerable delays is the issue with the speed signal/line... http://twobrutal.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4441
I'm sure the guys will have some good news soon - and hopefully a startup video...? :P
Hold in there fizzy, I can't wait to see this one finished, you must be pacing up and down like an expectant father rotflmao
Sure them boys won't have any probs sorting out the last few niggles.
Also i thought the hesitation prob was fixed (subject to further testing)
8O :believe: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: Gimme!!! :P
So - looks like my car will be all done in time for when theirs talk of the government putting huuuuuuuuuge taxes on "gas gussling cars".... :P
Nevermind - it'll still sound nice even if I can only afford to rev it on the drive.. :mrgreen:
Show meeee the moooovieeeeeeee! :pray: :pray:
Quick heads up for you all.
As of ~16.00 hrs today, Fizzys mean machine is a running mean machine..
Took a little video of it which peebs will put up shortly, but be warned, this car has NO exhausts on it yet...lol we wanted to hear one with no silencing...god its loud! :mrgreen:
More soon! :)
Hmmm - 2 1/2 hours and still no movie. Do you know how many nails you can chew through in that time? Got my amp on and turned up ready too... :mrgreen:
I need another coffee....... :coffee:
:popcorn: :popcorn: :mrgreen:
Sorry peeps been having trouble getting my mail (vid sent from Tony) Pop server timeouts, so I went over there just and got it on my mem stick, here it is...
MR2 V6 UK number 5
www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Fizzys_Startup_Video.wmv
So official startup date is 07/08/06
:boogie: Thats great! first time I tried playing the movie there was no sound.... :icon_conf
Then I tried mediaplayer instead of my default player and wahay!!!! Wow - that sounds loud - and rather wierd - with no exhaust... :D
lodgeman
07-08-2006, 23:12
woooohoooooo ! well done guys! sounds a monster without exhausts!! lol lol
well done :clap: guys are you sure thats not a V8 in there !!!!
Also here's a few pics
Mmm, Alllllly
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/
Valve work
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Valves/Shims.jpg
What work did you do on the valves ? just the seals or clearnces on the shims also (or was it not required)
What work did you do on the valves ? just the seals or clearnces on the shims also (or was it not required)
Well, it was probably not required, but as the engine was apart, and the head gasket kit also included new valve stem seals (plus a lot of other bits), I asked them to change them/do the valve work - which also included checking the shims etc too... :D
A lot of the work was mainly precautionary (like the oil and water pump, the valves etc) but thought it would be worth it in the long run on a 197k engine. :D
So... its aaaalllliiiiivvvveeeee Mwahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
<cue lightning, thunder and dodgy facial expressions>
;)
I noticed the exhaust backbox is actually back on anyway - when its going to be mated up to the downpipes so we can hear what its actually going to sound like normally?
Although I am tempted to drive it around sounding like that.... :whistle: :P :boogie:
So... its aaaalllliiiiivvvveeeee Mwahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
<cue lightning, thunder and dodgy facial expressions>
;)
I noticed the exhaust backbox is actually back on anyway - when its going to be mated up to the downpipes so we can hear what its actually going to sound like normally?
Although I am tempted to drive it around sounding like that.... :whistle: :P :boogie:
Lol Fizz, center section is in final prep stage matey, plus I would like to sort the torque mounts first too, lets hope they turn up tomorrow, still no sign of them :(
Lol Fizz, center section is in final prep stage matey, plus I would like to sort the torque mounts first too, lets hope they turn up tomorrow, still no sign of them :(
Well, I sent an email to the guy asking if they've been sent, or if theres a problem etc. There is a mobile number on the contact page too - so if they don't turn up tomorrow, I'll give him a call.... :)
...starting to think I should have just bought some TRD ones from fensport after all... ;)
Paul Woods
08-08-2006, 06:45
leave the exhausts off!!!!! lol sounds amazing chaps,dont worry fizzy they all sound like that without an exhaust on.
Fantastic work lads,thats a superb swap very professionally done.
Fizzy i'll add you to the mk2 swap register now matey.
sounds like it will bite your freakin head off. :)
Not long now Fizzy, let the fun begin.
Erm, okay three compo's today then...
Well, it's takin me a while to sift through today's pics (isn't point 'n' click photography just great fun when your aim is off) so just to keep you lot busy for a while here is a pic of a mystery bracket...
...if anyone can gues what it is for, they will receive the rest of the yucky blue paint it is sprayed with (had it about 10 years so it must be vintage by now)
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/4twobrutal/MysteryBracket.jpg
Righty Ho, all set for today's brutality ? Well here it comes anyways...
New center section all fabbed up...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Zaust/1.jpg
...then it gets a new lick of paint...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Zaust/2.jpg
...and gets fitted up to the car.
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Zaust/3.jpg
The larger pipe at the rear of the section is taken from the exsiting mongoose system fitted to Fizzy's car. It hangs a little lower than the sump, but is no lower than the subframe, so ground clearance should not be an issue.
The brace bar was offerred up, but as suspected, does not fit, as it fouls on the throttle cable. To correct this, we can either make a new strut brace (or you can have one fitted at a later date, Ian), omitt the brace or re-modify the cable bracket (which "could" be a bad idea considering the angle required to clear the brace) Feedback on this one plis Fizzer.
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/BraceProb.jpg
Hmmmm.....
Also, just to get your loins really in the mood, here is another vid and a soundbite (as Tones cam picks up juuuuuust a little too much treble to do the exhaust not justice) a soundbite taken with directional mic on me good ol' laptop.
Video with zausts on...
www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/ZaustsOn.wmv
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/Rev.wav
:jump: :drool: the sound of them v6's is just lovely. good work lads, what left till its on the road?
Hmm Adam, front ARB Bushes, front torque mount (if it gets here by tomorrow), a few small brackets including diagnosis bkt, AFM bkt and the mystery bkt. Rear wheels fitted, bolts torque check, plumbing/wiring check, fluids level check, LEAK CHECK ARRRRGH! NOOOOOO IT'S PISSING OIL/FUEL EVERYWHERE! (hehe soz for the panic attack Ian :-). Sort recent strut brace fouling prob (reckon I have that sorted after a quick phone call to Fizzer himself) Cleandown and test drive. Fingers crossed it's ready for pickup on friday.
lodgeman
08-08-2006, 23:47
sounds great guys! the v6's sound great dont they!!!! re- the throttle cable/brace could you not drill a hole for the cable and put a tube there for the cable to go through and reweld ?
sounds great guys! the v6's sound great dont they!!!! re- the throttle cable/brace could you not drill a hole for the cable and put a tube there for the cable to go through and reweld ?
They sure do sound fine Al, I feckin love 'em.
Too much engine movement for the mod you mention though matey, all the same thanks for the suggestion, much appreciated. :)
Sponge Bob
09-08-2006, 00:24
Champion work lads - sounds gorgeo-so-good!!
sounds great guys! the v6's sound great dont they!!!! re- the throttle cable/brace could you not drill a hole for the cable and put a tube there for the cable to go through and reweld ?
Well, if you look at the stock bracket on mine, its actually staggered - uses the front topmount bolt on the drivers side, and the rear one of the near side - not sure why?
In theory if it was put in upside down it would sort it - bit unfortunately the ends that fit on the topmounts have been flattened/tappered/shaped so they won't fit flush that way around. :(
So Peebs is going to kindly try his own x-brace in there, and if that also fits in mine (which it should do! :P ) I may be...ahem.. borrowing it for a while. :mrgreen: ;)
Anderson
09-08-2006, 01:06
Sounds lovely
:hyper: :fit: :hyper: :fit:
Now just to get my arse sorted and get my own V6 on its its way :p
That sounds awsome, like there's some real power just waiting to burn rubber.
Now peeps, that mystery bracket is it an air chamber support ???
Higuys it,s me fizzypop it sounds bl>>>dy awesome i know fizzy has got ants in his pants ,cant wait till he gets it into his hands again wedone lads best regards FIZZYPOP
lodgeman
09-08-2006, 14:57
re- the bracket. is it for the pants you were demonstrating?
http://www.adamhutchison.co.uk/graphics/elefold.jpg
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2006/08/50.jpg
:eekdoor:
Its a borg v6 elephant!
<deep menacing voice on>
Revving is futile - you will be torque-eefied.
....erm.... :whistle:
superchargedsam
09-08-2006, 22:57
Adam fella you have too much free time ! do you need some machining to do ?
erm.. v busy sam.. :mrgreen: send stuff if needed.
'elefold'
Well, yesterday saw a bit of bad news crop up. We let the big thumper tickover for, 15-20 mins or so, to bring it up to operating temp Mainly to see if the fans were kicking in correctly and to bake all the new paint on, etc.
But...as it got warmer, the valves got louder...just a bit too much for our liking. :hmm: It doesn't make sense really, as all the clearances were smack in the middle of the tollerance figures :banghead:
Soooo....today we took it apart again...ARRRGH! lol
:fruit: :fruit:
We had a hunt around on t'internet last night and a ring round today to see if we could get hold of the 2 specialized tools that would make our job quicker and easier. The only tool companies (except MrT) that were selling the tools were all in the US. However a local Toyota dealer had some in for the tidy old sum of ?98 + VAT, eeek. :eekdoor:
So we made them instead :whistle:
...and damn well they work too. Tony modified a pair of SEAT valve tools and I made the bucket holding tool from a piece of 3mm flat. :toke:
Then I went a huntin' for spare shims :odd: and found all 32 I knew I must have. :cool: Measured and marked 'em all up (good variety from 2.96mm to 3.17. We already have the current clearances, so that saved time. :hyper:
Got 6 of the valves done today but tomorrow we should fly the rest that is if we have enough of the correct sized shims. And at ?5.50+VAT each, lets keep EVERYTHING crossed, hehe. :pray:
I forgot me camera today - twice - DOH! But I shall grab a couple photies of the engine and the tools tomorrow. We'll also post up some info on how to make them for yourselves too...soon. :nerd:
Well, yesterday saw a bit of bad news crop up. We let the big thumper tickover for, 15-20 mins or so, to bring it up to operating temp Mainly to see if the fans were kicking in correctly and to bake all the new paint on, etc.
But...as it got warmer, the valves got louder...just a bit too much for our liking. :hmm: It doesn't make sense really, as all the clearances were smack in the middle of the tollerance figures :banghead:
Any clues as to why the tolerances changed after warm up?
Then I went a huntin' for spare shims :odd: and found all 32 I knew I must have. :cool: Measured and marked 'em all up (good variety from 2.96mm to 3.17. We already have the current clearances, so that saved time. :hyper:
Got 6 of the valves done today but tomorrow we should fly the rest that is if we have enough of the correct sized shims. And at ?5.50+VAT each, lets keep EVERYTHING crossed, hehe. :pray:
Yup! So - were the 6 that have been done so far that much out of tolerance then compared to what they were when it was first put back together? (If you see what I mean... ;) ?)
Any clues as to why the tolerances changed after warm up?
After the engine warms up, in theory, the clearances should tighten a little, so no no clue.
So - were the 6 that have been done so far that much out of tolerance then compared to what they were when it was first put back together? (If you see what I mean... ;) ?)
A couple of them have changed a "thou" up or down, but still all were still within tollerance spec. We are going to set all clearances as close to the upper limit (tightest) as we can get them.
lodgeman
11-08-2006, 02:01
what oil are you using as anth had the same problem with his! it may be due to the oil we are now using? opie oils reccomended 5/40w
Well, most the clearances are now bang on spec with just a few that are 1 thou of an inch under top spec (tightest), so should be a good fine now.
Here's a few pics...
Engine stripped back - again...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/ValvesII/Apart.jpg
Shims measured and sorted...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/ValvesII/Shims.jpg
Special Tools we made.
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/ValvesII/Tools1.jpg
Tools with Feeler Gauges.
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/ValvesII/Tools2.jpg
Tools in use...
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/ValvesII/InUse1.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/ValvesII/InUse2.jpg
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/ValvesII/InUse3.jpg
Clearances recheck
http://www.peebs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FizzysSwap/ValvesII/Clearance.jpg
Sorted, just gotta whack it all back together again now :)
Nice job... liking the "SST's" :clap:
superchargedsam
11-08-2006, 13:08
top job there fellas !
Paul Woods
11-08-2006, 16:50
love the SST's as goldy says.....only just reading this chaps,anths was noisy too,all we did was the head gaskets and had the cams out....but it quietened right down back to normal after a few hundred miles.....not sure exactly whats going on but it seems they need to get right up to temp and back down again a few times before they go quiet....anths is now perfect and we didnt need to reshim,very odd.
love the SST's as goldy says.....only just reading this chaps,anths was noisy too,all we did was the head gaskets and had the cams out....but it quietened right down back to normal after a few hundred miles.....not sure exactly whats going on but it seems they need to get right up to temp and back down again a few times before they go quiet....anths is now perfect and we didnt need to reshim,very odd.
Erm... NOW you tell them this? :P Hehehe. Hopefully fourveesix and peebs haven't spent too long on the re-reshim.... ;)
Does seem to be rather odd though, as you say.
Paul Woods
11-08-2006, 17:08
sorry chap only just saw the thread update,for some reason they seem to need a running in period in which the noise dissapears,the reason for which i have no clue....Only seems to happen if you have had the heads and cams off.
Great tool making guys:praise2:
Fizzy at least the shims will be to extact tolerance's
Jiff Lemon
11-08-2006, 19:59
Well, at least I'll have one thing less to worry about when I fire mine up!
Oooh, those last few posts are good news. (I've not been around for a couple of days). cheers for the info and comments guys :)
Oh no, if its that good, my bro will never let me have a go, won't be able 2 prise him from the drivers seat.:driving:
Flames eh? Would that make it the fastest toaster ever?:icon_eek: :rofl:
Seriously though, you guys have done a SUPERB job and I know Ian is extremely grateful for all ur hard work.
Erm
Ahh..
Erm.
(blubber)
What can I say????? :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
....erm... I WANNA BURN SOME RUBBER (or Toast ;) ) NOW... :P
Wow! Flames!?!?!?! Wasn't expecting that..... a free bonus flamer kit installed. :mrgreen:
Well - had a nice meet in Aber with some of the mr2oc crew - and the biggest topic of the yesterday evening (and in fact a lot of today) was - my v6 swap... :P
I also now have a fair few more people queuing up for a ride in it... :D So - let me think - charge a quid a go and I should recover my costs in no time. :P
Absolutely fantastic job guys - I was seriously missing my 2 when I was trying to keep up with 5 mr2's on the way up to aber in my lowly 306 1.6... :P Looks like the wait is going to be well worth it, and theres always the next meet. :)
So - when its looking like its gonna be ready for collection then - not that I'm that excited or anything....
:boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie:
...yeah right!!! ;)
See you in a few mins then guys..... ;)
...oh, by the way, also found out that the organiser of the meet and her family live about 3 miles away from your garage guys!!! Looks like thats gonna be my first stop on the way back. I've been offered a free meal if I show 'em the two... :D
Colossus
13-08-2006, 19:34
Hi Guys, Ian's younger bro sticking his oar in again!
Thought i'd congratulate you on the incredibly well done job with this engine swap.
Was wondering though, are flames from the car a good thing? Apart from the fact it looks really cool isn't is possible to damage parts? Or is it just to do with excess fuel in the vapours ignited by the heat of the exhaust?
Not trying to panic anyone honest!! But am curious....
oh and by the way, what sort of cash 'bribe' would i need to provide so you accidenly handed me the keys for MR2?!?!?!
:shades: :shifty: :shifty:
great work.. tony you know how you like making cool vids.. :pray: :angel:
Well, that's it then, just gotta sort out a time for Ian to pick up his two (or younger bro - if the bribe is right - hehe)
Flames from the zaust won't damage anything Colossus. It is due to the excess fuel in the exhaust (most Toyotas run rich) being ignited by the flames produced by the next combustion cycle of the engine. However the flaming may stop happening so frequently when the ECU finds it's "optimal" settings again. (boo - we want flames!!!) :mrgreen:
Sponge Bob
13-08-2006, 20:46
Flames you say!!!
Flames good...!!! :)
Wicked ..... Flames, cool as.... god you guys are making me want a v6 right now :slap:
Nice work, has anyone timed a 0-60/quarter of a v6 mk2 yet?
:tease: :tease: :clap: From fizzypop had fizzy at my house last night rather exited >>Re flames out of exhaust >> in wales there is ivor the engine and in it live idris the dragon but ivor is redundrant now because it,s all deisel so per haps idris has found a new home in fizzy,s mr2 hence the flames.
Well, that's it then, just gotta sort out a time for Ian to pick up his two (or younger bro - if the bribe is right - hehe)
I think you went and jinxed things saying this.. ;)
Well - why can cars be tantalizing b**ches at times? :(
Went to pick up the car today. Went for a spin with Peebs around town. Marvelled at the exhaust note, how nice and normal the clutch is now, gearchange is spot on, and its great to drive - can easily pootle around town in 4th and 5th!
Got stuck in traffic, then finally managed to get to a bit of dual carriageway, built up the revs a bit and what a sound!!!!! Awesome!!!! :thumbsup:
.....it was at this point that peebs noticed that the temp gauge had just climbed well into the red. 8O
Pulled over asap, and popped the engine lid to find the coolant boiling etc.. [:(
so - a quick check revealed that the front rad fan wasn't working. The cavalry arrived (aka FourVeeSix with my brother in tow ;) ) and after some checking found that there appeared to be a fault with the fan relay. A quick fix later (wire jumper), and I was limping back following FourVeeSix, with the heater on hot, and full blast. On the trip back the temp gauge was wavering all over the place, and fluctuating quite suddenly too - Peebs seems to think it was an air lock.
Some time later, after some food (and allow time for the car to cool down) it looks like theres a problem with the temp sensor on the rad - even though it all seemed to work ok when run up to temp earlier by the guys. As you can imagine we are all rather gutted over this development, and rather puzzled.
So - went back home with my bro, with memories of an excellent car and wonders to come, tantalisingly dangled before me - yet not quite within my grasp. [:(
The guys are going to check a few things and give her a once over again, and let me know how it goes. Its all very odd, as the engine has had a new water pump, thermostat, coolant change and bleed.....thought that the mr2 cooling system was easily up to cooling the V6.
Aren't cars a pain in the butt at times? :cry:
Glad you got back ok Ian, and so very disappointed for you that you didnt get to fly home in the Two.
Will organise the two parts tomorrow and let you know asap what we find on the "soak" test.
No need to send "da boys" round just yet tho...:)
Well - I won't be sending "da boys" round just yet - but they will be bringing me round later when I need to pick u the car - they're very handy like that. ;)
Guess I've just got to wait and see how things go again.... need plenty of :booz: to pass the time I think. :D
Hehe, yeah very disappointing all round that was, still, I ordered a new engine coolant pressure cap and a new rad temp sensor from Mr T this morning - although it does come to a quite fierce 78 quid !!! was ?54 for the sensor and ?12 plus a few pennies on each. The parts will be here on friday morn.
Hmm... .I can get a new front radiator for ?99 too..... think its worth getting one considering it looks like the one currently installed is the original? At least that way just about everything cooling related is new. :whistle:
I also may be able to get a couple of 5ltr containers of toyota forlife for a good price too.... ;)
Well - new rad on way shortly to FourVeeSix, 2nd fan to be fitted to it when it arrives. New engine bay rad cap, new water temp sensor for rad....
....we'll crack this heat issue by sheer overkill if need be.... :P
A brutal way of solving a problem. :D I like it.
Hope this is the last of the niggles mate fingers crossed :pray:
Overkill ! well at least you'll be able to sleep at night lol
I'm thinking from this that I may have to uprate my radiator as well, considering it is from the 1990 model 3sge. (not sure if turbo used a bigger one). Is there something easy I can update to. Supra?
Australia is not quite as chilly as where most of you guys are from. :)
2 fans and a new rad. should be good. :)
I'm thinking from this that I may have to uprate my radiator as well, considering it is from the 1990 model 3sge. (not sure if turbo used a bigger one). Is there something easy I can update to. Supra?
Australia is not quite as chilly as where most of you guys are from. :)
2 fans and a new rad. should be good. :)
Uprated rad should not be a problem, Sparky. The 3S-GTE engine runs at 96-98 degrees when hot (tony took a reading off the rad ages ago with one of those cool handheld laser type jobbies) and the 3VZ using the same rad was running at a very low 68-72 if I remeber rightly)
Fizz, fair play for changing the rad matey, though I don't think that that was cause of the problem. I've been away for a few days, so sorry if I missed any mails or call from you.
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