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Hello again everyone!
The last truck was such a success that I started looking around on the internet to see if I could get lucky enough to find another one of those early 50's International Pickup trucks.
I found one in California, bad glass, no papers etc. Found several others that were in the wrong year range. Nothing that I could use, maybe some 1960's stuff but I wanted the same body style truck because I already know exactly what to do with one of those. Nothing that was rough & ready. I took a shot in the dark at an area of Indiana that is very rural, middle of nowhere type stuff.
I found a kid with the exact same truck. He was selling it cheap (sort of) because he'd gotten in over his head and knew he was never getting it finished.
I called him up, about three and a half hours away. We made a deal and I borrowed a tow dolly and long into the wee hours of the night, I brought it home.
It's the more civilian version of the R-120 3/4 ton truck that I had before, basically the same exact thing, but this one is an R-110 with nicer door cards, it's a half ton truck and a four speed on the floor.
It's also in much better original condition. Good glass on this one, good papers. Ladies and gentlemen, may I present to you:
The next installment of--
Hemi 4x4 1953 International pickup truck ('Old Blue as it's now known)
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ob1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ob2.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ob3.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ob4.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ob5.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ob6.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ob7.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ob8.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ob9.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ob10.jpg
gavsdavs
09-05-2016, 20:12
Is it just me or http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2016/05/1.png
Best of luck :)
No, you're right- they look just like that tow mater thing. Any old truck with big wings resembles that thing. I still don't like these type of trucks, but the guys with the money sure like them.... ;)
It'll be another Hemi 4x4, but more creature comforts and a few differences. Less fab work needs to be done on this one. The hunt is on for a donor truck!
Jiff Lemon
09-05-2016, 21:16
same donor as last time?
Yes. 2004-2009 Dodge Durango 5.7 Hemi AWD.
Finding this truck, this close (3.5hrs) and in this shape, is kind of unbelievable. I looked for hours in southern states on the 'net.
Finding another cheap 5.7 donor is proving to be most difficult. They're about 4-6k right now. I might use my black daily driver as the donor. Maybe. Depends on $$ :)
The wife and I have discussed me keeping my black truck and chopping up her Hemi Durango... If that happens, she's winning wife/mother of the year I can tell you that!
We'll see. It's a money thing at this point.
Today- or tonight rather... This is all that happened:
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ob11.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ob12.jpg
Yes, I stood there drinking beer and looked at it. :)
Paul Woods
10-05-2016, 07:04
Being honest I was kinda hoping for something different this time around (purely from a spectators point of view).... but i can appreciate why you're sticking to the formula for financial reasons.
As you were.
cdwood2010
10-05-2016, 07:37
I'm intrigued to see how good you can get at something famiar.
Although you don't technically need a dodge truck, remember the TVR chassis? You could plop it on that, 2wd sure but lower than a badgers badger.
C.
geoffmunt
10-05-2016, 07:45
Being honest I was kinda hoping for something different this time around (purely from a spectators point of view).... but i can appreciate why you're sticking to the formula for financial reasons.
As you were.
I agree with this in one sense, but will be nice to be able to tweak the bits you weren't happy with last time. And at your work rate, the next project will be along soon enough....
Its now a formula that he knows will get a result..and its a good result.
will he cut the Durango floor pan out this time and save himself some fabrication time?
will he fit the Durango heater to add more comfort?.
will he do something different with the tray?like a tow deck, for a 5th wheel trailer, for the last purchaser?
tune in next time when you will here him say..."I'm buying the wife a Newer truck....its cutting time" or will it be "found this cheap at the junk yard....Damaged Vehicle Auction/impound auction"
I will check into that floor pan idea- good thinking.
And yeah, I know this seems like more of the same old same old, but I did a few V6 MR2 swaps before I realized the market isn't very strong for those over here and switched to something else. I prefer driving the V6 MR2 over an old body swapped truck, but I have three people waiting for this to be finished so they can buy it. The guy that bought the last one wants this one and told me to "hurry up". It might cross the pond this time or sold here. One thing is for sure, the price just went up lol
I hadn't planned on doing another one of these and would normally wait until next winter to start on a project. I was surfing the net with coffee and I knew that tow dolly was parked at my friend's house when I stumbled into this same truck. I just had to go and get it.
I'll make this one as interesting as I can, knowing the vehicles are the same. For the spectators, I'll spice it up a bit!
Crash damaged durango for the win? Are the body panels worth anything to sell or is it just scrap value?
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Anything with the Hemi engine in it, if wrecked is dismantled within minutes. Nigh on impossible to find, but I'll keep looking. The bodies aren't worth anything, they all rust in exactly the same places. I might try and start this old thing today.
A lot less work and a lot more direction on this one Paul. A winner from the start.
I could make it 2wd and race car ish, but that adds a bunch of new problems to work out. I can do this 4x4 swap easily now because the long days of trying to figure stuff out, are over. I know exactly what to do. I can do it better and faster.
My black Durango is up for a bunch of basic maintenance and cosmetic items. Doing the maths (maths lol) it's cheaper to buy a little runabout for the summer and use my truck for this build, then it is to perform all the maintenance and cosmetic things that my truck needs. My truck has been good to me and I've had it for probably 3-4 years. It's tried and true, tested and runs perfect so it would make a good chassis for 'Old Blue.
If I keep my truck I need to spend quite a bit on it, PLUS buy a more expensive donor vehicle. I've been looking at the little Ford Escapes, they run into high miles like Toyotas. If I could get a cheap one of those, I'd say goodbye to my black truck and it can become the star of the show instead of the 12 year old, showing it's age tow vehicle off roader that it has become. Hmmmm
All that whining about "My Truck, the wife's truck" is over. I stumbled upon an old advert on Craig's list with no pictures. It read "2004 Durango 5.7 Hemi non running for parts or complete".
One hour away. The wife and I drove out, saw it, made the deal and called a tow truck then had some lovely local family restaurant dinner. Shortly after arriving home, the tow truck arrived and dropped our donor chassis into the driveway next to 'Old Blue.
The engine is suspect, but I'm not afraid. It's ON. (oh and it has brand new tires on it. The wife claimed those instantly)
already winning, perks of the donor having common bits I guess...half hour, a few jacks and a rattle gun, all the wheels swapped:)
if I was closer, Id be round to help lift that body off the top....
get to getting.....
racerADS
11-05-2016, 06:02
Top work old boy.
Pics:
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/nb1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/nb2.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/nb3.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/nb4.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/nb5.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/nb6.jpg
The body is coming off tomorrow. This engine, has a hole in the block. If I can salvage parts from it and build a good engine, I will do that. If not, then I'll get a rebuilt short block assembly somewhere.
It's all good, with brand new tires for the wife's truck, this was a DEAL.
cdwood2010
11-05-2016, 23:49
Awesome. Already off to a flying start.
:)
you will probably make some coin off the bits you don't want as well....
if they are that hard to find complete....I need to get out to the shed and get going with the saw and cut up the one in the shed...
damn you and making progress. I need to do something now, other than play with the chainsaw, and work.....
Is it finished yet ;-)
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That old thing? Yeah, it's done- I sold it!
hahahaha
I have until Saturday to work on it. I'm cutting it up now. :)
And here we are:
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/y1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/y2.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/y3.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/y4.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/y5.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/y6.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/y7.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/y8.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/y9.jpg
racerADS
13-05-2016, 05:33
Top work lad
You certainly don't mess about, top work
cdwood2010
13-05-2016, 08:16
Ffs, I thought I was reading the thread for the first one for a minute.
I put a cupboard up yesterday. I feel like I've failed as a man by comparison.
:-0
gavsdavs
13-05-2016, 08:18
Indeed. You don't have a secret troupe of polish labourers do you?
A "troupe of Polish labourers"? No but I could use a Toupee made by Polish people hahaha (bald joke, get it..)
It's much easier when you're completely familiar with all the parts. Which tools to use in which spots etc. It really is much easier the second time around, much like V6 swapping MR2's I suspect?
I saved all the Aircon equipment. This truck had a small, compact heat & air unit in the rear, for the 3rd row of seats. I figure if I can get the condenser in the front somewhere, I can utilize the modern system with only having to have a couple lines made up for it. Normal heat & A/C will add value.
I have also (under suggestion from our mate Sketchy) saved the floor pan from the Durango as well as the bit that holds the steering column and pedal box. If I can graft that under the International cab floor (and I think I can) this truck's interior will be really cool. It might even have power seats. This is going to be a much nicer truck at the end. I'm a little sore from climbing around the thing for two days, but it's a good kind of sore. :)
Wow I blinked and thought the middle of the thread had been deleted. You work fast fella and it's taking shape quickly.
gavsdavs
13-05-2016, 18:47
It took me an afternoon just to get two front foglights out of an sw20. I couldn't take a car apart as fast as you without some hydraulic croppers and a large angle grinder. Its incredible.
racerADS
13-05-2016, 20:21
Top draw Paul.
Gav, can you do a thread on the best way to remove the fog lights?
thomp1983
13-05-2016, 21:36
Your only option is to drill the mounting bolts adam, you can either buy a long 6mm bit and leave the bumper in place or if you use a chisel to split the 2 plastic pins in the corners you can remove the bumper with the foglights in place giving you alot better access to the job
I think I destroyed a pair of lights getting them out, so I'm useless on that info.
I got the engine out of the chassis and it's on the stand. That thing came apart at high RPM. Not sure how much I can save, but the block and at least one piston is in a million pieces. Pics late tonight.
gavsdavs
13-05-2016, 23:11
Your only option is to drill the mounting bolts adam, you can either buy a long 6mm bit and leave the bumper in place or if you use a chisel to split the 2 plastic pins in the corners you can remove the bumper with the foglights in place giving you alot better access to the job
Yep, with a drill. Helps if you can get the top of the spotlights to eye height so you can see what you're aiming at.
I think I destroyed a pair of lights getting them out, so I'm useless on that info.
I got the engine out of the chassis and it's on the stand. That thing came apart at high RPM. Not sure how much I can save, but the block and at least one piston is in a million pieces. Pics late tonight.
I've seen engines running with holes in them, it depends a lot on where and what has failed, with a bit of luck it's a conrod in the middle and there is no major damage to the head or crank. Would it be cheaper to just get a replacement bare engine than a full rebuild? Not sure what they go for out there?
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I'm trying to find a bare block and I'll buy one loaded piston like I did last time and re-use everything, if it's useable that is.
Remanufactured short blocks are $1900-2600 USD. I'm not sure if I need heads, I didn't get it apart all the way and had to stop. Wife's making me go somewhere and I have to come out of the garage. She said there will be beer and food, so I'm going!
I got into the engine a little bit. Here's what I found:
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/2eng1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/2eng2.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/2eng3.jpg
I discovered the thermostat was definitely stuck in the closed position. The intake and all of it's bolts looked to be good, unlike the last engine that had this problem. If it sucked in water through the intake, the gaskets would have to be faulty and the airbox could have been submerged.
I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, the thermostat stuck closed and it overheated, tossing a head gasket. Or there is more damage in the cylinder wall than I can see, but the entire engine was FILLED with coolant, oil and chunks of metal. I don't see where a water jacket was compromised. Again, I'm not in there all the way, but something seems odd about why this one "grenaded" ;) The radiator was empty and the oil pan had all the coolant.
Either way, I'm on the hunt for a block. I'll check the heads tomorrow.
racerADS
14-05-2016, 06:20
Grenaded :)
Thanks for the fog light help guys.
take the rod out...grind off the cam lobes...and a bit of mend-it....
She'll be right mate!!!
take the rod out...grind off the cam lobes...and a bit of mend-it....
She'll be right mate!!!
I was going to suggest chewing gum and gaffer tape over the hole, a litre of fuel and oil and it'd probably run (for a few seconds....)
I got into the engine a little bit. Here's what I found:
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg
I discovered the thermostat was definitely stuck in the closed position. The intake and all of it's bolts looked to be good, unlike the last engine that had this problem. If it sucked in water through the intake, the gaskets would have to be faulty and the airbox could have been submerged.
I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, the thermostat stuck closed and it overheated, tossing a head gasket. Or there is more damage in the cylinder wall than I can see, but the entire engine was FILLED with coolant, oil and chunks of metal. I don't see where a water jacket was compromised. Again, I'm not in there all the way, but something seems odd about why this one "grenaded" ;) The radiator was empty and the oil pan had all the coolant.
Either way, I'm on the hunt for a block. I'll check the heads tomorrow.
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cdwood2010
14-05-2016, 09:48
Bottle of radweld and a plate tacked over the hole.
V7 Hemi lives!
:)
Found an engine. Going for the drive tomorrow morning, 2.5 hrs one way. Somewhere in the Pennsylvania mountains.
Turns out the engine had water in the oil. Not taking a chance on a possible cracked block. The search continues.
I found an engine that had a bad valve. I took a chance and bought it. It was 40 min away. One piston and the head were chewed up, but on opposite the bank of the engine that I already had. So I took the good head and a good piston from the bad motor and now I have a complete, nice engine. I just have to get a full gasket set and clean everything. Pics later. :)
Good job, you make it all sound so simple and easy!
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aussieGT
15-05-2016, 23:26
So I took the good head and a good piston from the bad motor
Always a good end to the day when you can find good head even if your piston broke.
Hahaha! Yes it is!
As far as making all the work sound simple, it takes a long time but time flies when you're having fun and I'm having fun so it's worth it.
A buddy from work stopped by today and I had to stop playing with engines and install his car stereo for him. It took a couple hours and I guess that will about do it for me today. Hoping to catch a few hours cleaning up tomorrow and making a list of plugs, HT leads, oil, gaskets etc,
I'm going to break the entire engine down and clean everything, label it all and begin reassembly while the gaskets are being shipped.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/2eng4.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/2eng5.jpg
I found an engine that had a bad valve. I took a chance and bought it. It was 40 min away. One piston and the head were chewed up, but on opposite the bank of the engine that I already had. So I took the good head and a good piston from the bad motor and now I have a complete, nice engine. I just have to get a full gasket set and clean everything. Pics later. :)A great win Paul you've recycled 2 shot engines to make a good one.
the perks of rodding old school/big lazy motors..
they don't have to be just so:)...close enough is plenty, unless your aiming for numbers.....
its all progress though, and knowing you, its on the budget end of cheap.....:eusa_clap:
Everything is cleaned and waiting for gaskets.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/heads.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/crank.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/piston.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/all.jpg
Waiting on parts is lame. I had to go in to actual work.
I did source some cool steel rims. Different than the last ones, but interesting and should have that retro feel when mounted. About 40 pounds for all four. Nice.
This one will have the whitewalls again, that worked out great. All that has arrived is the spark plugs and some block plugs I needed. Still waiting on the full gaskets and this timing chain tensioner because I broke it upon removal and I had already given the scrap engine away, there was a good one on that. I could have had it free, but I'm a dickhead, broke it and gave away the scrap. Cost me 42 usd that mistake.
Oh well, all else is Groooovy...
there was a good one on that. I could have had it free, but I'm a dickhead, broke it and gave away the scrap. Cost me 42 usd that mistake.
Always the way, Sod's/Murphy's 1st Law you don't need something for the 6 months you've saved it until 2 weeks after you've thrown it out/given it away.
The gaskets have arrived, the crank & pistons are installed, the cylinder heads are installed. I'm going to try and get the engine off the stand and into the chassis so I can fire it up today.
It's almost ready to start. This block that I have, was missing the filter nipple so I can't start the engine until I find one. Never thought to check if the damn oil filter nipple was still in the block.
I'm near Summit racing superstore, so I hope they have something that will work. It's 45 minutes away but if they have the nipple, I can fill it with oil and turn the key. I still have the alternator, power steering pump & serpentine belt to do on the front of the engine, and plug in all of the ECU stuff, but it should run once I get that filter nipple.
Damn sod's/Murphy's law! If I would have left that block sitting here, I could have saved myself the 40 bucks for the chain tensioner that I had broken earlier and now this filter nipple. The saga continues tomorrow.
Some pictures for your eyeballs to enjoy:
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/bloc1.jpeg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/bloc2.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/bloc3.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/bloc4.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/bloc5.jpg
More tomorrow, or about 12 hours from right now. :)
Things have happened this morning. I had some split pea soup, I drove to Summit racing and spent more on a T Shirt than the part I needed cost and what was the other thing that happened....?
Oh yeah- THIS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe3XxgEqPis&feature=youtu.be
https://youtu.be/Pe3XxgEqPis
That sounds as if it's going to be a win Paul. Keep us posted on how you get on.
So far? So good. It's had several heat cycles, no leaks, no noises and no overheating. I do have some actual work to do this week, so I might not be able to start stripping the International for a couple days, but the chassis is ready.
This is cool and everything, but I want to actually drive this one around a little bit before it gets sold. I have steel wheels, but different steelies, and I know there's lots of cutting, welding and grinding yet to do- I want to have some fun with this thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Z7kbsZE54&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Z7kbsZE54&feature=youtu.be
I saved the floor pan, the center console and the front seats. I should be able to use this floor in the International cab. I hope I can, because this has power seats and it will have much more room in the cab than in the other truck.
It seems like it's running fine and I'm hoping to start on the tear down of the old truck, by the end of the week. Anyone want to lay odds on how long it'll take to tear down the old truck? My guess is about 10 hours.
See the creature move on it's own:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0AQhuE0eWw&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0AQhuE0eWw&feature=youtu.be
cdwood2010
24-05-2016, 08:56
Nice work buddy. :)
This thread is admittedly a bit boring. I'll make up for it somehow. It's fun to build, but when you've already seen the show, it isn't as good the second time around.
I'll think of something...
cdwood2010
24-05-2016, 18:10
Wear fancy dress. Or get some strippers in.
I dunno...the not riding around the yard on a seat that's tied on, with make shift steering column support is better than last time....
but, how many times do we look at people's 3vz/1mz installs and go "that's exciting"
the question now becomes, how will this evolve?
yup steelies and white walls, old patina look on the outside steel work.
but the interior will progress quicker, should have mentioned earlier to keep the moulded carpets too...oops
will he hide the dash the same, or go for a more tidy look? he is fitting a more modern AC setup, will have power seats, much nicer truck:)
what else will he do to tart it up? or angry it?
I dunno...the not riding around the yard on a seat that's tied on, with make shift steering column support is better than last time....
but, how many times do we look at people's 3vz/1mz installs and go "that's exciting"
the question now becomes, how will this evolve?
yup steelies and white walls, old patina look on the outside steel work.
but the interior will progress quicker, should have mentioned earlier to keep the moulded carpets too...oops
will he hide the dash the same, or go for a more tidy look? he is fitting a more modern AC setup, will have power seats, much nicer truck:)
what else will he do to tart it up? or angry it?
This :thumbsup:
Ah HA! Sketchy, I was reading your mind brother. I kept the carpets, the power bucket seats, the center console, the rear Aircon unit that will fit under the dash.. Many things, many things.
Will it all fit? Dunno. It should.
I'm hoping to strip the International this coming weekend. I have a comical video idea in mind for it. We'll see if that works out funny or not.. lol
benny hill style video???
OH HOLY SHIT man! How did you guess? Seriously, I was going to do one of those but now I have to think of something else!
hahah Seriously I was thinking of that! Change your user name to Spooky... lol
:)
Not sure Mrs Grenade would go for all the scantily clad young ladies running around, but I'm up for watching it & I'm sure Grenade JNR will enjoy filming it.
cdwood2010
25-05-2016, 13:55
Lets recap......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Oxkgsex8M
Disappointed there was no tree
I was going to do a skit with myself playing Benny Hill. But, Sketchy guessed my plan so I'll come up with something different on the next video.
Meanwhile, Back at the ranch:
Setting time trials records all over Cleveland, The world's fasted single handed strip! (not that kind of "strip" you dirty boy)
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/blu1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/blu2.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/blu3.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/blu4.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/blu5.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/blu6.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/blu7.jpg
cdwood2010
26-05-2016, 07:05
Nice work.
Is scrap worth anything in the US? Because its worth peanuts over here.
C.
less than peanuts here, they wont even collect a car, unless its pretty much complete...
and a bare car costs to dump....
Around our way if you can drive the car in they will give you something, if it's a genuine scrapper then about £30
Scrap steel is worth .04 per pound. Four cents. Not much at all. But people that need money will still do it. I bet he might get $100 for the frame. 75-100 is my guess. Today I'm getting steel to pick up the cab and start cutting. :)
cdwood2010
26-05-2016, 17:07
I went on one of my fave websites, cartakeback.com, and out the details in for the red Micra.
Without even getting into the fact that it would be half stripped and have no engine or gearbox.
£25 collected.
:(
thomp1983
26-05-2016, 21:16
Jeez Chris your getting done, I took the remains of jiffs old 2 a fortnight ago and got £80 and there was little left on it
geoffmunt
27-05-2016, 08:22
True fact. My old Geography teacher went to school with Benny Hill and in his words "used to kick his arse all round the playground". Lol.
Ok- slight dilemma here; I think I want to go with the Lifted look, not real high, but more of a useable 4x4 American truck thing. I know, I shouldn't mess with what sells and I probably will slam this one down like I did the other one, but what are your thoughts on making it look like a 4x4 instead of a street truck?
Here are the progress pics from yesterday:
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/o1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/o2.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/o3.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/o4.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/o5.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/o6.jpg
cdwood2010
27-05-2016, 13:59
Slammed!
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2016/05/113.jpg
Fogive me for being a thick Yorkshireman but aren't those bars going to make it difficult to get in :eusa_wall:
:)
The way to pick these odd shaped truck cabs up, is to build something like this. It was much easier and faster the second time around. Next truck- I'm going to make the pivot point/fulcrum adjustable so that when I cut away metal, I can adjust the way the cab hangs from the lift. The weight keeps changing as I remove bulkhead & flooring.
geoffmunt
27-05-2016, 16:35
If you reckon you have a buyer or two lined up already...ask them. They might only be keen on the look you did the first time.
snowtigger
27-05-2016, 18:28
Don't fuck with what sells, it's not yours (well for a bit) slam it out some decent paint on cherry red and leave it at that
Yep- it's DOWN. Already have the cab set. Looks sweet. Pics later.
:)
cdwood2010
27-05-2016, 21:22
Much win. :)
It's best I not mess with the formula that sells. This floor pan from the donor truck? It was tough working out how to line it all up but once I cut enough away, the interior of this one is going to be kickass. Stock bucket seats that bolt right in, a center console with cup holders- It going to be pretty damn decent in here! Thanks for the idea Sketchy, I never thought about it until you mentioned it.
Also, the guy that bought the last one says that everyone at the car shows is loving the Hemi International truck. He said that he could have sold it twice if he wanted to! He sent me pics.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/o7.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/o8.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/o9.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/o10.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/o11.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/o12.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ooo1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ooo2.jpg
geoffmunt
27-05-2016, 23:17
Do I spot the boards still nestling in the back there?
Yep! It looks like he kept them. I also noticed a trim ring missing from one of the headlights. Must have popped off when he was going (in Jeremy Clarkson's voice) A HUNDRED AND FIFTY SEVEN MILES AN HOUR hehehe
the first truck doesn't look out of place...sending that guy progress pics of the current one, with the improvements over last time???lol
but that floor to cab line, don't look to bad at all...good bodge there:)
I notice the first truck has a foil heat shield on the firewall, was that something you made? or is that since it left your hands?
I have a big roll of that stuff. I put that there. I'll be doing that on this one too.
That floor is mega win all round, it seems like it's saved you a whole load of work too!
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Ok, we had family stuff yesterday, but BRIGHT AND EARLY this morning, I went out there and accomplished a few things. Check out the pics and vid. :)
MOT Here we come!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1H8ldyxsXI&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1H8ldyxsXI&feature=youtu.be
looks right with those buckets in there....bit of carpet and a dash surround, and that would almost be car show stuff....
maybe with a re-trim first in some posh stuff
cause yours will look better inside than this one.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6V1Mk3hPZs
though checking in the dash clocks and mounting the modern stereo does take something from it
I'll say that he did a nice job with that build. I've heard about the guy that does that with Dodge Dakota pickups. The problem is that old, no longer made or sold, 318 V8 engine. Another problem is he's not using the 4 wheel drive ones. Too complicated or not worth it for him perhaps.
Anemic, the 318's.. They never were that good and I'm a Dodge guy. My first truck when I was 17 had that 318 in it. Trust me, in that video he said "you won't want any more power". He's wrong, those motors are nothing in comparison to the Hemi engines.
What he's doing is cool. What he's doing probably sells. But not to the same guy that I'm shooting for. The guy I want to buy my trucks, thinks the 318 on the Dakota platform, just isn't cool enough.
I had a brand new 1999 Dodge Dakota with a 318 and 4x4. It was a decent truck, but not like the Hemi powered AWD stuff. What he's using in his builds, is pushing 20yrs old. What I'm using is just over 10.
He does nice work and starts with cleaner trucks. Somebody message him and ask him what one of those costs with the 318, and what it would cost with a Hemi 4x4 in it... Bet he's at a loss for words. New Top Gear tomorrow night, I heard there could be SPOILERS in it lol :)
didn't listen to him talk....just looked at pictures......my bad
are you shooting for the same guy? with an even better truck? cause your well on the way from where I'm sitting...
my shed is almost clean enough to start working in again....so there should more updates:)
still feeling slack, knowing how much your getting done
I'm going to call the number in that video today. Bet that will be interesting :)
racerADS
30-05-2016, 14:54
Yep. I will take the Hemi please. Plus I can understand your accent Paul, that dude is a little bit southern...
I just spent 45 minutes on the phone with that guy. SUPER cool dude. He runs a body shop in Kentucky, about 8-10hrs south of here. He's done a BUNCH of these trucks. He uses the 2 wheel drive Dodge Dakotas because down there, nobody buys four wheel drive trucks, it doesn't snow where he is. The wheel/track width of a Dodge Dakota fits under the stock wheel wells of the international without cutting them. That's why he didn't choose the Hemi Durango. That, and he has the impression that the early Durango engines are no good because so many of them are blown up. I shared with him, why they blow up and they are in fact strong motors.
Now dig this:
One of his friends actually bought my last build! He looked at it and recommended to his buddy that yes, it is a good truck- he just didn't like the cut wheel arches and some of the work could have been done to a higher standard, but he says it's a pulling monster. Can you believe that? INSANE that the only other guy doing the International & Dodge merge/builds actually looked over MY truck. I'm floored by that.
What a small world! It looks like there's room for both of us and he was really cool on the phone. If I lived closer, I would be working with that guy. He knows exactly the struggles of doing these things without at least one qualified helper. He has 2 guys helping him from his body shop. I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing with these and he's on a much bigger scale that I am actually, but he says he's done well monetarily. Neither of us knows how long the trend will last, but we're in it for the time being.
(from what I understand, the guy that bought it from me, has sold it to a friend of this other builder)
So I started fitting the body panels. Had to rebuild one of the bonnet catches, that took 2 hours. Grr, it was kicking my ass that one. Nothing would line up, it was bent and cracked but I fixed it.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/fen1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/fen2.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/fen3.jpg
I think I'll work on the interior some more later today. :)
cdwood2010
31-05-2016, 00:37
So are you cutting (or have you cut) the arches on this one the same? If you're fitting steelies are they different enough that it would clear the arches?
It's funny to watch, the last build you were all "I'm gonna do this" and on this build its "yeah I did this". Flying at it.
Carry on.
:)
I have to cut the wheel arches. Have not done it yet, the wings are just mocked up. After they are mounted proper, I'll cut them a little nicer this time. The steel wheels are the same size as what's there now. I'm going to do the grinder whitewalls with these tires that are on it.
I did the dash clocks/binnacle. It's sat up higher than the last one because of the floor pan from the donor truck. I had to lower the entire foot box on the firewall or it wouldn't work at all. In the future, I'll probably use the floor pan and the cab mounts, but not the bulkhead. The position of the steering column was better in the one I built, but this truck will be more comfortable to drive. The main thing is it saved me time. The International cab is much narrower than the donor so moving the column and the pedal box on the Durango floor pan and making it work, sucked. It's still not over as far as I would like it and the binnacle is higher, but when you sit in the truck, it's pretty comfy. Should fine-
Well screw it, it is what it is :)
It's great that you're making progress, just don't forget it's the detail that makes it, don't rush too much to finish as another hour or two to sort out a little issue here or there will pay dividends with the finished product.
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Yep, Agreed. I remade the binnacle today because it looked like shit. I'll get back to it tomorrow.
Meanwhile, look at this build from a vintage truck and a Mercedes. NUTS, check it out:
http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/173974/55-chevy-truck-mercedes-remix
And here's the update:
I call it "Bodgetastic".
Somebody suggested on the last build, that rather than cover the binnacle in cheap black carpet, I try to match the color of the original truck. That made it a bit difficult because when you're not concealing the metal structure, you have to have a different approach to making it. It has to be neater, more smooth and you have to mount it in a different way. This was challenging. The last one? I just screwed the clocks to the metal dash and wrapped it in sheet metal, pop rivets and carpet. This unit had to be built and mounted as one piece. A bit of a bitch really.
This dash cluster ALSO didn't cover the holes from the old gauges. The reason that this one is different than the last one- is because the floor pan of the Durango.
This caused all sorts of problems.
Sure- it made the floor fabrication quicker. What it also did, was mount the foot pedal box up too high and subsequently the master cylinder power brake booster also too high. You couldn't put the bonnet on. It hit the reservoir. You couldn't move the pedal box closer to the engine because the Durango bulkhead shape wouldn't allow it. You couldn't move the box down, because the pedals hit the floor. I stole an inch here, an inch there and thankfully the pedals are adjustable. I got it to work but it would have been easier to make my own floor pan and bulkhead. I am not sure which way I'll go on the next one.
I found some paint that was damn close to the celery color and the hearing aid beige that this thing was painted 60 odd years ago...
I could have made it look better if I fiber glassed the entire thing, but this took long enough. I remade the binnacle a couple times and finally made a template of this, so next time I can just bang one out.
I'm not real happy with it, but it's secure and once the whole thing is done, you won't really focus on it too much. I hope. :)
Overall- the seating position is good/fair. The steering and driving position is decent and slightly better than the last one. This one will be more comfortable, but exactly how much- remains to be seen if it was worth it to use the Durango floor pan.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/fl1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/fl2.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/fl3.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/fl4.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/fl5.jpg
I am not sure which way I'll go on the next one.
I love the optimism, 45% of the way through this one & the next is being thought about, do you already spend you 20 minutes downtime trawling Craig's List
I remade the binnacle a couple times and finally made a template of this, so next time I can just bang one out.
Maybe it is lost in translation, but if you want to bang one out over a template you go ahead, I prefer a magazine or a video.
If the pain is slightly out on the match Paul why don't you just spray the entire dash the same colour (I meant color :icon_smile:)
Yeah, like I said- not happy with the whole floor pan thing. It caused issues.
I might just leave it the way it is. Not changing it again. If anything, I'll cover it.
snowtigger
02-06-2016, 18:21
Spray it all Matt black job done
Yeah, let's just say I "ran out of talent" on that one. Here it is, it's done.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/fl6.jpg
I made up for it by doing this:
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/fl7.jpg
The trip computer/compass/MPG indicator is mounted in the headliner, rather than screwed to the floor.
Yes, that sun visor is made of wood. I had one from the donor vehicle, but it made me mad when it wouldn't fit. Let's just say that it is no longer in the parts pile. ;)
Trust me... It's all going to be OK. :)
Never mind the goofy guy at the wheel...
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/fl8.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/fl9.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/fl10.jpg
Remember, it was SUPPOSED to be a rat rod... I don't know what happened!
Damn internet and TV shows!
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/fl11.jpg
Great progress Paul, loving the roof lining. :thumbsup:
Gonna make up some side panels for the centre console, seeing as you've gone that far.....looking good all the same
Yep- I'll cover those sides and fit the heater controls to the console. They're just sitting there right now. It never was about a custom interior anyway.
It's a bit more comfortable and will drive nicer than the last one.
It's all about the 4x4 and that 5.7 engine & drive train with a vintage body on it. It'll be fun and someone is going to love it.
I'm planning the half motorcycle sprocket on the bonnet and probably pipes out the side again. That way, no matter where these trucks end up, you'll always know it was one of my builds. They'll just keep getting better and better.
I am going to start on the front end and get the grill, wings and radiator installed next, so it will run and drive in and out of the garage. I need to clean up in there!
One full day on the front wings and the grill.
There wasn't much left of the hinges, the flanges that mount them to the cab or the front edge that secures them together.
I had to fabricate all the pieces to make these solid again. You look at it and say "That won't take too long". Yeah.... shiiiiittt
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/june1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/june2.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/june3.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/june4.jpg
its small jobs on the list, that are the worst to do.
"make guards fit normal shape without rust holes....."translates to 4-5 hours cutting welding and swearing if it was me...lol
than another hour or 2 getting them just so...
It's coming together well, it looks like theres a fair bit of rust patching to do on this one, is it worse than the last one?
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This was a truck we saw on Sunday at a little car show in Louth, the guy had spent 2 years rebuilding/restoring it, I was talking to the owner (guy with arm out) about yours, he really liked the idea of new over old.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j81/gsx550es/20160605_104228.jpg
He likes the wooden sides as well, he has taste :biggrin:
That is a beautiful truck. A British car show and an auto jumble are high on my "to do" list.
This one has less square footage to patch than the last one, but I only had to rebuild one hinge on the last one, this one was two. The last one had solid fenders on top, but the bottom skirts were rusted out. This one, the top mounting edges were gone, but the skirts are much better. Patching areas that are mostly flat, goes quickly.
Problem with this front end, is that all of the flanges and folded edges, you know- the hard stuff- that's what I had to rebuild. Hopefully today's job won't take too long and I can get back home and mount the front end. I have a plan for the wheel arches this time...
The long hours fabricating the edges of everything the other day, paid off today. I mounted the grill, both front wings AND the radiator! I also cut the two front wheel arches. I made another template so all four arches will be the same. I also have a grill template because all these International trucks in this part of the country are gone in the same spots.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/june5.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/june6.jpg
Once I make a battery tray, this thing is turn key, starts on the button ready. I mean, I still have the heater core, the Aircon (IF I can get it to fit) :( the controls for the heat, mount the fan, start sectioning the rear truck bed, the exhaust, the seat belt mounts etc etc :)
cdwood2010
08-06-2016, 06:30
Nice work. You've clearly embraced welding with gas too, look at the size of that goddamn bottle! 😂
Like the arch cut, much more concise.
C.
Oh yeah, gas is the way to go. People that use flux core are dummies...... (haha shit- I was going to post in the welding thread about that) But seriously folks- there are spots of welding on this build, that look as professional as you can get. Most of it doesn't, because I rush, but there are moments of brilliance with the gas bottle for sure.
Flux core is cheap and quick, like for welding a trailer bracket or something. Sheet metal and panel fab? The bottle is the only way to go. The bottle belongs to my boss, he said it's no problem if I use it all, he'll refill it. I've done the entire last truck and this whole truck so far- it's only half empty.
Items left to do:
Wiper blades, the arms already work
Exhaust
Lights
Engine bay; air cleaner, mount ECU, mount fuse boxes & connect heater core. Oh yeah- add a fan.
Cut up back bed and section it, fabricate and mount the sides, hang rear fenders and cut back wheel arches.
The interior is fine. It's not a show truck, but this one is much nicer than the last body dropped truck I did. It's really comfortable and the heat works with the factory controls. To make the aircon work, I have to somehow fit the condenser & receiver dryer in the bay and have 6 lines made. It's a bit of an expensive fuss, that is waiting until the end, I might just pass that job on to the new owner. The AC compressor is on the engine and the AC coil is under the dash in the heater fan box. Same as before, tilt, cruise, 4x4, power steering, power brakes. This time it has traction control. The donor truck was ordered with traction control, so it stays. There is a "FUN" button, in case you want to turn it off. It has 4x4 Hi and Lo settings too.
The power outlet is also working, to charge your phone- there are two of those. I'm not doing a radio.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ni1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ni2.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ni3.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ni4.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/ni5.jpg
Wow that's slotted in there pretty nice. You even have cup holders 😀 I think if you finish the little jobs like aircon connections, it will make your motor easier to sell as you widen the appeal to people who haven't got the inclination to do the finishing up tasks
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Wow that's slotted in there pretty nice. You even have cup holders �� I think if you finish the little jobs like aircon connections, it will make your motor easier to sell as you widen the appeal to people who haven't got the inclination to do the finishing up tasks
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I think this is a sales point, you can buy this for $X or I'll do you the A/C for $X+Y once the readdies have changed hands, some people won't want it,
It might be easier to add an all in one unit, called vintage air. I think the cost is near the same as having all these lines added & made. Plenty of time to look into that.
Got the seat belts installed. Waiting on a bunch of small parts to arrive before I finish up the engine bay and spin it round for the rear bed transformation. :)
Turns out, the guy that bought my last truck?
He has over 5,000 miles on it and wants more of them.
He took a trophy at a car show with it.
Details on that phone conversation later....
how long has he had that now??
and a trophy, for what?
geoffmunt
11-06-2016, 10:02
Turns out, the guy that bought my last truck?
He has over 5,000 miles on it and wants more of them.
He took a trophy at a car show with it.
Details on that phone conversation later....
More miles or more trucks?
Paul Woods
11-06-2016, 10:21
Looking really good now Paul, I see a bright future for you doing this for a living.
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Thanks guys and yeah, he's had it for what, a month or two? He's been traveling all over the place with it. He wants more trucks. He said the sprocket on the hood and the side exhaust, they are either "love it or hate it" with people. He said that's about the worst of what people say about it. I'm not sure what category it won a trophy in, I'll ask him.
He was approached by a TV channel, at one of the shows- to put the truck in a country music video. He said it's happening, he's leasing the truck to them for three days of shooting.
He also said that he wants this old blue truck in 3 weeks. He wants it for a huge car show, where he says he will put it on a stage on a rotisserie with his company name and mine as the builder.
The one thing I DO know, is he paid me for the last truck, so he's not a bullshitter as far as I can tell. I'm going to try and hit the 3 week deadline and see what happens.
Grab popcorn, this could get exciting. (or as life is sometimes, nothing could happen and I'll just keep building rusty junk and talking about it on a forum anyway) lol
:e045::e045::e045::e045: Several buckets ordered
I wouldn't give up the day job just yet, but your not that far from the finish line on this one...
"you can do eet!!!"
racerADS
12-06-2016, 08:28
Are you lining up the next international and Durango anyway?
snowtigger
12-06-2016, 10:29
go for it should be fun times ahead what ever happens
The Durango trucks are all over the place up here. They're not that cheap if they're in running condition. The internationals are a little tougher to find but they're out there. People buy up the solid ones, I'll take the rusty ones because I chop 'em all up anyway.
I'm going to do a little video driving old blue later today. :)
cdwood2010
12-06-2016, 15:46
You are our new poster boy.
:)
When I hear the phrase "Poster Boy", I chuckle and think of something my buddy used to say- "Hire the handicapped, they're fun to watch". That's the kind of poster I should be on! lol
Anyway- May I present the FIRST DRIVE VIDEO of 'Old Blue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4WcYSaHV6A&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4WcYSaHV6A&feature=youtu.be
Looking good, exhaust sounds way better than the last one.
That is stock exhaust manifolds, stock cats and a Y pipe. No muffler or pipe at all. It's getting a muffler and a different exhaust exit. That's basically cut off right at the cats. Sounds decent unless you had to drive it every day, plus it's what we refer to as "Ticket loud". It's above the decibels to be street legal.
That thing is "bad ass"
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get that tray done....
3 weeks. the clock is ticking...lol
if I was closer, Id come give a hand...
I started Sunday about 7am and worked out there until about 9pm. I stopped for an hour here and there, dinner with the family and playing around with the video, but I got the bed into position in about 4 hours. It was much easier this time, plus my wife and son helped hold the panels to get them tacked into place. Everything is just mocked up into it's rough position, but it's taking shape!
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/bed1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/bed2.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/bed3.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/bed4.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/bed5.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/bed6.jpg
racerADS
13-06-2016, 15:14
Truck Yeah!
snowtigger
13-06-2016, 17:20
Ye and definitely haw
I ran out there and welded two braces on, hung a rear fender just for the photo op. The running boards will make it look much lower, it appears sat up high, but once I trim the rear arch and get those running boards on, it'll be cool.
I adjusted the stance of this one slightly, because when the other truck gets a load in it or a trailer hooked up, it drops too low in the back. This one loaded, will be sat level.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/bed7.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/bed8.jpg
I was asked about not using the Durango interior on another board.
Yep- I know, vintage interior would be better but that moves this into a different price package. I could make it look old and do several things differently, but the consensus was, "make it more modern inside, more comfortable but not expensive". So that's what I did.
I have found a source of mostly rust free international trucks. Average price is double over the rusty ones I use. Later on in this scenario- I may start using more solid trucks, but this deal is working, although they're still hard to find, rust or not.
I can't wait to get the steel wheels on this thing with whitewalls. I worked on the bed a little today, not much- crazy day.
More later.... :)
Id stick with what your doing.
1)its not much hard work to do, for getting seats in reasonable state.
2)as you say its a nice place to be like that.
3)you have sold one already, and he is ready to throw cash again....is it broken? don't think so.....
for what your doing. the rusty trucks work, your not building show winners, just cool retro body vehicles
Dang jobs! Keeping me from my truck! This weekend is nothing but two 12-14 hour days on it.
I'm getting withdrawal symptoms
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its Sunday morning my time...gotta be at least 6pm Saturday there...and no update yet???
He's going to rock up and tell us he finished it and sold it already 😀
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Hahaha, no I just came in the house. I did 14hrs.
Pics in the morning... :)
racerADS
19-06-2016, 07:27
Okay it is morning... Where are the pictures then?
its mid evening on sunday.....
racerADS
19-06-2016, 09:16
I bet he is asleep. Lazy git
I missed the new top gear.....waiting for an update...
ok that wasn't the reason I didn't watch the new top smear.....
cdwood2010
19-06-2016, 10:39
He posted this on RR last night:-
"I just did 14 hours on it. Pics in the morning.. :)"
It's 7:16 am. I'm doing pics and coffee now :)
I'm going back out there soon to get started with another long day, but time flies when you're having fun.
From yesterday:
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/brd1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/brd2.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/brd3.jpg
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http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/brd6.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/brd7.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/brd8.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/brd9.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/brd10.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/brd11.jpg
that's a subtle side exit zorst. well played
I prefer two round pipes sticking out in odd places. But I'm an old Detroit hillbilly, so that explains a bunch of stuff :)
But anyway- I have discovered a way to pull rust out of old paint and I'm sure car people know about it, but I was shocked to see it restore color to this thing. The front half of the truck was sanded/flatted down by the previous owner or I could have saved more of this truck's colors. Crazy!
Anyway- here is the result of 28-31 hours since Saturday Morning.
Happy father's day everyone! My kids were home and they helped with stuff and the family sat outside in the sun while I worked on the truck. Nice.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/brd12.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/brd13.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/brd14.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/brd15.jpg
For your Viewing pleasure=
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnUwpCrNqto&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnUwpCrNqto&feature=youtu.be
Fathers day is still some time away....
But your nearly there. And a week to go?
For us, father's day was yesterday. The build is progressing well, I'm already looking forward to the next one! (I must be nutty)
What did I use to pull the rust out of the paint? The stuff I use to make the rust color on new metal. To make rust, I use Muriatic acid, wait until it dries and then spray peroxide on the metal and it makes instant rust.
To remove rust, I just put muriatic acid in a spray bottle and let it sit on the rust for a few minutes, then I wiped it off with a dry rag. I couldn't believe how much it removes.
The long tedious part about this job were those running boards and the exhaust. Man, that took SO long to pound out those little curves. I hope the next one I do will have solid running boards, I could save an entire day's work on those alone.
The deck boards in the bed, were supposed to be more of a gray color, but the can of stain was more blue than gray, I might do a light sanding to reveal more wood color or just go over the blue with a gray color. Not sure how I feel about blue boards. I've got a busy week this week so I'm not sure how much time I'll get with it this week.
It's close :)
Fathers Day was yesterday for us as well.
Sounds way better than the MK1 truck, arches look better as well, in fact the whole truck is a step up. :icon_cool:
Well done :thumbsup::praise2::praise2:
Thanks Jimi- the plans for the next one ware even bigger- BUT I have to get this one finished and shifted first. My job is nutty busy this week. I did 12 hours at my regular job and looking at that time frame- at least 2 more times this week. Sometimes, duty calls. :)
Last night I found a tin of gray wood stain tucked in a cabinet. I dipped a cloth in the stain and wiped gray over top of the blue color. This is just about the exact color I was going for in the first place. I wanted a slight blue hue, with a dirty gray look to it.
I think it's fine now.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/brd16.jpg
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cdwood2010
22-06-2016, 14:46
Rub some dirt on it for that authentic look.
Or park it in the UK weather for 6 months. There's a reason we don't have lots of old vehicles over here. 😞
how long till it goes on a stand now?....
If I can get it done before this big show in a couple weeks, it should be going on display. I'm off tomorrow, finally and can spend the day on it. I have lots of little bits yet to do, but it looks as if I'll make the schedule. Fingers crossed :)
On ya, mate!....I'll translate later if you can't find an Aussie to help...
The heat and AC controls are working nicely. I have the condenser and the lines mounted, I just need to have two hoses made, and I should be able to fill the AC with R134. Then, it should have air.
I have a bunch of little patching to do, the wheels and tires, mount the automatic fan & relay, the front bumper, wire in the lights.... I have to check my list but that's most of what's left.
I'm starting to get a bit excited about this one really. If the AC actually works in this one? MMmm, the price just went up :)
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/brd20.jpg
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snowtigger
24-06-2016, 17:46
Get it painted black all over stealth style
matt black like the expendables truck? yup this one is tidier looking, still think its better this way for the rustic look.
more panel work required for a pretty paint job to look sharp.....even a matt finish
No paint, buyers like these things like this.
Could not resist sharing these next two pics. It's wet, not clear coated. Front bumper, lights and a few other things yet to go.
But here are the wheels that I have chosen. I like them, it fits the vision I had perfectly.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/brd22.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/brd23.jpg
Can you leave the bumpers off? Looks mean without them!
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I supposed I could leave the front bumper off. It never had a rear bumper. The front one adds character, age & originality- plus it holds the front turn signals. Might not be a bad idea. I'll consider it. :)
Sorry not liking the rims, might be the colour I can't see past, but they don't do it for me, but then again I'm no the target audience.
Paul Woods
26-06-2016, 17:13
I think those rims work really well on this one, much better than the last attempt.
cdwood2010
26-06-2016, 19:22
Looks like a cool kid with new shoes. :)
Thanks guys- I'm thrilled with it.
If you saw it in person, these wheels work. The center caps, they're staying so that it eludes to something special going on under there. I have a pair of door decals I'm going to try out and see what those look like.
More later :)
The tires are wide, they fill the arches nicely. The grinder whitewalls are better this time around. I'm probably going to matte clear over top of the whole truck, along with this vintage style petrol decal.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/970.jpg
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racerADS
26-06-2016, 22:30
Cool ride Paul. Personal choice would be black rims with the white walls but I am splitting hairs. Great work.
almost tempted to poach one of them thar pics, and use it as my desktop wall paper....
Decal needs to be slap bang in the centre of the door and you should totally do a grenade motors logo in there. The one you posted on the other thread was awesome. Even if u make a stencil and spray it on!
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Paul Woods
27-06-2016, 06:58
^^^^ Agreed 100%
I'm probably going to matte clear over top of the whole truck, along with this vintage style petrol decal.
Wheels / whitewalls :thumbsup:
Satin or gloss clearcoat for me , it looks absolutely ace in the wet pics
http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg
I love the wheels just the way they are and the stance is perfect. I also agree on the logo...get a grenade Motorworks on their and design it to look old skool Fifties style.
Amazing work Paul.
Thanks chaps! The decal isn't going on- many internet people have said it looks better without it. :)
I have something else up my sleeve.. I'll get pics...
Another Truck magically appeared after my wife Jamie found it on the internet. She text me the advert and I pounced on it like a tiger on a gay magician:
This one was SO CHEAP I could not pass it up.
Yes- it has a hole in the block. I'll get another motor somewhere, later. :)
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/gold1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/gold2.jpg
I'm on the hunt for another international truck, but I have time to search for the "right one".
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/gold3.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/gold4.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/gold5.jpg
cdwood2010
28-06-2016, 12:06
Scooby Doo!? Lets talk about that!
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2016/06/125.jpg
She text me the advert and I pounced on it like a tiger on a gay magician:I just fell off my chair.
sounds like your wife is close to trained...if she was, she would have gone "there is a car you need to look at, take the trailer with you..."
maybe she likes the quick turn around, and the return
either way, its a winning recipe, might as well do it while they sell before they even get finnished:)
Yes sir. I'll keep doing these until they don't sell, or the sale price drops too low for comfort.
I did the final patch welding and put the bumper on it yesterday.
It has headlights! I still have to install the front turn signals, have two AC lines made and charge the system to see if it all works, put a battery box in the bed and a few other very small details.
This one really close to being done. I'm hoping to get it out on the road by the end of the week.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/fog1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/fog2.jpg
aussieGT
29-06-2016, 14:15
Scooby Doo!? Lets talk about that!
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2016/06/125.jpg
Thats a serious crab problem.
I'm still trying to figure out what YIFF is.
Urban dictionary that....lol....
Dunno if you noticed, But there are some weird people on here...
This battery box cost exactly $7.48 at the second hand thrift store. I sanded it, painted it, stenciled it and that's that. A fine new Marine battery and she fires up instantly. I had a hard time finding a tool box that was exactly right, and right when I needed it, so I went with the Dynamite box instead.
I like it.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/bat1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/bat2.jpg
cdwood2010
01-07-2016, 18:09
ok, thats pretty cool.
:)
Other than two AC lines that I need to have made, it's done. I even did new brakes all the way around it, they were dragging a little so I replaced them. I also played around on my bicycles for a while today with the boy. :)
(A couple pics got resized weird, I must've changed a setting somewhere)
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I haven't done this to a car in years. So I took the opportunity. It's called an Icepick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu2i4NUIjkg&feature=youtu.be
A nice young man from southern Ohio was passing through on his way home, he had just picked up a Durango in New York and saw my ad for Durango parts. He was towing it home, stopped at my house and bought the tailgate, both front doors, a section of sill and the bonnet for a really good price. I was happy, he's happy and now I have a partially stripped gold colored Durango in the driveway! I'll have to get that body off and the chassis parked 'round back. I'll get on that task tomorrow possibly.
:)
And some money back on your purchase price, nice one.
gavsdavs
03-07-2016, 17:24
So much want. Awesome builds
Super picture, just works on in so many ways
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/xx5.jpg
Thanks everyone!
It's freaking AMAZING that the entire build, the forum threads and the sale has happened so fast. That's right, sale. The man himself came out tonight with his buddy and painter, they bought the truck and it's going to the big show this weekend. There will be 10,000 cars at this show, and some real heavy hitter industry professionals will be in attendance. I'm going to stand a few feet away from my build and see what people say. Good or bad (not that I really care too much) I'll never let on that I built it... :)
While I was waiting for them to show up today, I busted my ass and worked about 12 hours getting the next build ready. I had it set up so that the scrap guy was loading up ALL the scrap just as I was cutting off the last piece. Everything is clean, the garage is empty and here we have another chassis with a blown engine. I'll get to work on it in a couple days, I need a break. :)
The talk is that we let this next build make it across the pond to share in the love of the 4x4 Hemi Internationals, and they are thinking of funding an SRT Hemi (6.2L) Durango for the next build.
I haven't even found the vintage truck to plop down on this #3 chassis, but it'll appear when the time is right. It always does.
I am TIRED. It was hot and today was long. I'm just now sitting down for a beer at 11:30 PM. There will be pics and video of the big show this weekend.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/gone.jpg
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cdwood2010
06-07-2016, 09:46
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2016/07/33.jpg
Little Deuce Coupe
06-07-2016, 15:22
Paul - without any doubt the best 'get on with it ' merchant ever EVER , huge respect and hats off to you Sir!
now that he has truck number 2, is he shopping for number 3? with a wish list of extras???
or is that a wait for comments at the show?...
I think you must be "in tune" with what's going on over here, because YES, he's shopping for #3, with a wish list of improvements! We've talked for over an hour last night when he got the 2nd one home.
This could really get interesting :)
I do hope you're making some coin out of it, he's clearly sees he can
if he is doing ok, with just clipping the ticket...Id be curious to know what he gets when he "on sells". cause you making cool looking trucks!
Its cool what you do, I know your doing ok out of it already. just don't sell yourself short mate:)
His plan is to invest in a few of these trucks and see if there is enough interest to make a REAL nice one. He says he's gambling, taking a chance on the market- he isn't in these for the quick flip, he wants to take the builds to the next level and start earning real money.
It's cool that they believe in me enough to gamble on my trucks at all!
Yes, I made stronger money on this one than the last. :)
I just got these pics via text this morning. Loaded and rolling to the show. Now this is what I call a road test!
He had a little issue with the brake linkage on the latest build, which he sorted himself and now it's time to GO!
(Cross fingers)
I call this; WOW.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/wow1.jpg
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Paul Grenade on Facebook. You can see a video of it rolling down the freeway!
cdwood2010
08-07-2016, 17:21
Did you actually get to drive this one?
Umm, no. hahaha
They pull up with a trailer the very day I tell them it's done!
Shit I gotta drive one of these things. They said they can get both axles spinning in a four wheel drift, pulling on to the road from the bar lol
I need video of that! I'm driving the next one for sure.
It sits much better with the trailer on than the first one did :thumbsup:
cdwood2010
08-07-2016, 19:19
Umm, no. hahaha
They pull up with a trailer the very day I tell them it's done!
Shit I gotta drive one of these things. They said they can get both axles spinning in a four wheel drift, pulling on to the road from the bar lol
I need video of that! I'm driving the next one for sure.
Done the same with a few V6 builds. Around the block and then it's gone.
They grow up so fast. ��
they do look good together though....top marks
even if the first ones had some make up applied since it left the nest......
cdwood2010
09-07-2016, 00:47
And some additional seating. :)
The. Car. Show.
Over 60,000 people today. Going back tomorrow.
Biggest thing I've ever seen. Yes my trucks were there. I have TONS of pics and video. Need time to process it all, plus shooting again tomorrow.
UNREAL, it was like 20 or 30 car shows rolled into one. More later....
I'm on the hunt for an international body now. I want more than anything for one of these to make it over there. I'm going to keep the MOT in mind again and I want this next build to be affordable to the guys on your side of the puddle. I can't guarantee someone won't run up to me and hit me the face with a stack of money, but I really think it's the UK guy's turn to get a real crack at one of these.
I told the guy that bought my trucks that "It's their turn", meaning the UK guys and he said "We have something big in mind for this winter, so let them have the next one and you can get started on the SRT for the winter project". So- as of right now, my plan is to get this one done in the next 8-9 weeks. That makes it a little less pressure and I can take my time doing nicer work. I've already got several ideas on making these much better.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/sunshow.jpg
I've got a ton of pics and video from the show, it's going to take several hours editing it all into something cool and watchable. It'll be worth it though, that place was like a small city!
Meanwhile, someone offered me a decent amount for the rubber on the Durango chassis, so I sold the tires, which were too small for the build anyway. This is how #3 sits as I type:
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/sun1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/sun2.jpg
cdwood2010
11-07-2016, 14:43
Lol. "They see me rollin'....."
Cab bulkhead? I see what you did there.
:)
I start sending emails in the early morning hours and I check them throughout the day. Basically, I'm "fishing". If someone has a good deal and it pops up, I'll find it.
Usually.
I still can't find a good truck that isn't 10 hours drive away, but I did get my hooks in an engine. I had it delivered and it showed up after work today. Low miles, a good runner with a slight engine noise only for a second on start up, I'm going through the whole engine anyway, so I'll find it.
Once it's running, it sounds perfect so it shouldn't be that difficult to solve. I have a few possible leads on the truck body, but I'm going to keep searching.
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/mon1.jpg
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/mon2.jpg
I start sending emails in the early morning hours and I check them throughout the day. Basically, I'm "fishing". That's how Chris uses 'Grinder'. :thumbsup:
I'm a bit peeved by the internet right now. My son and I spent a bunch of hours, each- editing what we feel is an entertaining video look at the car show. Some cool information and just a general guided tour type of thing that came out really fun. Not for the purpose of monetization, just to share with the other car guys and have a laugh.
Because I used 50's music in the background during some of the voice over parts, You tube blocked it everywhere. Nothing I can do with it. Vimeo blocks for content- they all do it. I have this really cool 25min video that nobody is allowed to watch. Pi$$es me off. Too much work to change all the soundtrack and it takes away from the feel of the piece if I use generic garbage tracks. I'm going to work for a few hours. I'll check back later but that really $ucks. #HatingTHEinternetRightNow
snowtigger
14-07-2016, 18:00
That sucks monkey balls.
boondougal
15-07-2016, 02:22
Damn that stupid internet.. if only there was a way of quickly telling people how stupid the internet is, something that was like a world wide web of communication hubs. Maybe i will go off and invent a less stupid internet, maybe the internet is like a belly button, some have an in and some have an out... maybe there should be an outternet.
would give colin furze a headache...
he turns the internet up to 11...would he have to turn the outernet down????
Unfortunately, artist copyright prevails Paul. I've had issues on my websites ensuring there is no breach, as it one of those things that even if you publish someone's intellectual property in error the fines can be quite harsh.
It could have been worse, you could have had several thousands of hits and then they fine you based on the success, as Tiggs says it really does suck monkey balls but it's there to protect the rightful owner.
cdwood2010
15-07-2016, 10:34
I'm a bit peeved by the internet right now. My son and I spent a bunch of hours, each- editing what we feel is an entertaining video look at the car show. Some cool information and just a general guided tour type of thing that came out really fun. Not for the purpose of monetization, just to share with the other car guys and have a laugh.
Because I used 50's music in the background during some of the voice over parts, You tube blocked it everywhere. Nothing I can do with it. Vimeo blocks for content- they all do it. I have this really cool 25min video that nobody is allowed to watch. Pi$$es me off. Too much work to change all the soundtrack and it takes away from the feel of the piece if I use generic garbage tracks. I'm going to work for a few hours. I'll check back later but that really $ucks. #HatingTHEinternetRightNow
Send out a copy then, balls to Youtube.
:)
What if I put it on Google drive and then anyone that wants the file can download it? Or I can try to compress the file and email it somehow? It's 1.1GB.
Meanwhile- back at the ranch:
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/a11.jpg
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Foreshadowing is a literary device in which a writer gives an advance hint of what is to come later in the story.
Foreshadowing often appears at the beginning of a story or a chapter and helps the reader develop expectations about the coming events in a story.
I ran down and borrowed this from the guys that bought my trucks.
Now I wonder what I would need this for?
http://www.fmxpaulgrenade.com/sitepics/2016/trlr.jpg
You're going on a beer run?
You have a small house to move?
Right? It's a big trailer. I might need a bigger one, if I were going on an actual beer run. :)
Meanwhile, because I'll be driving until late tonight, this little episode should keep you occupied until I get back.
I altered the pitch of the soundtrack from an F to an F# and it seems to have slipped under the radar of pooptube's automated "HEY YOU CANT PLAY THAT SONG software" for now.
It's 25 minutes long, so sit back and enjoy seeing some really amazing vehicles. (Never mind the higher pitched voices, we don't really sound like that)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO-dO-oxgt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO-dO-oxgt0
The deal isn't happening until most likely Monday. One deal fell through and another, better one popped up so it should all work out. :)
Tearing down the good Hemi for the #3 build, for inspection and re-gasketing. It looks CLEAN inside, so far.
My gasket kit arrived this morning, so why not eh?
Can't wait to hear this one run!
Yeah shit. Both truck deals have evaporated. One was too far gone to save and the other one was 100% disassembled and missing parts. (but complete in the pictures)
It's after 1am and I'm still searching the globe.
It is a diminishing market, I know you now know the International but are there other choices?
Probably. I have found several, they're just literally 15 hours drive away & further. Someone on RR lives in Indiana, transplanted from the UK. He's bought a Durango and an international. He PM'd me for my blessing, blah blah blay-
I should have said "sell me that truck". He's doing it for his personal vehicle, I knew it was bound to happen sooner or later. Just like when Paul woods started sticking V6's into MR2's. Before you know it, everyone is doing it.
I'll find one. There are other choices. We'll see, it's only been a few days. I get impatient!
We'll see, it's only been a few days. I get impatient!
^^^That I understand, we currently have the house on the market, been 25 days, 1 viewing, already fed up with the whole thing
What about a chevy? http://m.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Other-Pickups-Deluxe-/182207199697?nav=SEARCH
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