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ACE
22-10-2012, 23:44
I'm considering having JHclassics do a dino conversion on my MR2. Has anyone from this board heard anything about the company? It's a fairly costly affair and my car has to be transported to Uk from Denmark (where I'm from) and so I would like to know a little about the company before committing to a deal.

Goldy
22-10-2012, 23:47
TBH I know nothing about them but I do like the replica dino's

cdwood2010
23-10-2012, 00:15
I know John Hurst, really nice bloke. He has bought two cars from me, previous Mk2 V6 projects.

His work is of the highest standard, and he has had some rave reviews.

I'm sure he could provide you with a couple of happy customers to chat to.

Chris.

MRV6
23-10-2012, 01:40
I know John Hurst, really nice bloke. He has bought two cars from me, previous Mk2 V6 projects.

His work is of the highest standard, and he has had some rave reviews.

I'm sure he could provide you with a couple of happy customers to chat to.

Chris.

He was very good in the elephant man.

Torero
23-10-2012, 09:36
He was very good in the elephant man.
LMFAO :yelrotflmao::yelrotflmao::yelrotflmao:

In fairness John Hirst has an excellent reputation, an occassional search on eBay will show his cars reselling upwards of 15k so for a replica it is still a good investment.

snowtigger
23-10-2012, 18:48
I read the dino had been sold then re bought by the original guy who made them, always was a good looking kitcar the dino.
Never a proper fezzer though as it was a fiat dino the ones with fezza decals and shields are all wrong, to really get it authentic you need the fiat badges.

ACE
23-10-2012, 19:45
actually if I'm not mistaken.. the 246 Dino was badged as a Dino and never badged as niether a Ferrari nor a Fiat.. As far as I know, Dino was meant to be the name given to entry level Ferrari's in memory of Dino Ferrari (Enzo's son) So in fact it was sporting Ferrari technology with an engine designed by ferrari - built by Fiat. It is true that there was also built a car named Fiat Dino. But that was an entirely different car (though running the same engine as the 246 Dino) The 246 along with the 308 Dino was as far as I know the only built cars that was badged as Dino's, as Ferrari considered the "Dino idea" to be a bad marketing strategy. Also the 246 is the reason Ferrari's began the midengine setup.

Although I like the 246 very much.. I'm not doing this conversion to be a poser. I just don't think that the MR2 can be made to look better than the retro style of this conversion. And I have spent many hours pondering over different bodykit setups and custom designs :-D

cdwood2010
23-10-2012, 20:04
I agree, it is a very nice replica with reliable tech underneath.

Not sure how much John charges for a conversion, but as has been said, his cars market at 15k+.

Pretty good investment IMHO.

C.

smash
23-10-2012, 22:23
Sacrilige to mention but there is an accurate Rover MGF based version nearly ready to come out as a kit. Even John himself admits his kit is not a replica as such, more an homage as it's way too tall and also too short. I nearly bought an Alfa v6 engined 246 replica a couple of years ago - I can tell you they are not nice to drive! At least MR2 based you're in a much more comfortable environment :)

Best of luck with the kit - go for the GTB, the GTS doesn't look right to my eyes

OlberJ
23-10-2012, 23:14
I know someone mating up his Alfa engine to an E153 (ergo it will work with S54's).

Get a JH classic and you got the drive, the sound and 90% of the looks.

loadswine
24-10-2012, 08:16
The 246GT is one of my all time faves and this is probably the only replica I'd consider. Looking forward to seeing some pics. :)

pilotpete
24-10-2012, 23:53
I have seen these kits and IMHO theyr'e just not a good replica (if that's what you're after). Don't get me wrong - the kit is excellent as is the detailing of the parts in the kit. You will get an excellent car from this kit, but there are more authentic looking kits out there.

smash
25-10-2012, 08:38
Agreed - although none of the old Lancia based kits are the right length, which remains they're biggest issue. They're all too short as a result of the original splash they're based on being taken from a 206 rather than a 246. "Waiter? Anorak please!"

briweekes
03-11-2012, 10:12
I've also been looking at these dino replicas, they are perfect for the v6 conversion, for the great sound and the engine being transverse, it should work really well. The end result is something classy, and rarely seen on the road. I guess you've seen the many articles on them in the uk kitcar mags

smash
06-11-2012, 13:58
A lot of them already have Alfa 3.0 V6 retro fitted - the one I looked at had, sounded glorious!

dogrough
30-03-2014, 15:23
Does any one know of any one else supplying a 246 Dino conversion for the MR2? Got a MR last year, rough body but as I was going to put Dino panels on it didn't matter. Had Paul fit the 1MZ, & I thought this year the kit would go on. Very disappointed, got no replies to a couple of emails so I phoned a few people to see if they could throw any light on the subject. Sounds like the MR 2 Dino kit is not available!!, Gone bust, not interested ? ive had a few tales was also told to do a web search & it seems its a tad ' fickle ' Must admit the thought of losing the thick end of 5k doesn't appeal to me. Few tales on the net has lost, how can I put it, trust. Seems if you find one positive feed back its backed by ten negative. Any ideas? may just replace standard panels at least with the engine conversion ( top job as normal ) I will have one nice car. Got myself geared up for the Dino kit so to be let down I don't know how I feel. My own fault I should of done my home work!

Kevin.

cdwood2010
30-03-2014, 15:35
Hi Kevin

John Hurst (JH CLassics) is still very much still alive and kicking. If you want to PM me i can put you in touch if youre having difficulty.

As far as i know he is the only one (mainstream) that does these conversions. Not cheap, but once finished they look stunning.

http://www.jhclassics.com/

http://www.skyinsurance.co.uk/blog/2013/10/ferrari-dino-246-replica/

Chris.

dogrough
30-03-2014, 20:27
Hi Chris,
Thanks for the quick reply, would you like to supply me with a Kit?. I have had a couple of calls this afternoon that advised me to give it a swerve. Was told to go over to the dark side & get a ' proper ' Dino ' replica the Dehavilland. Must admit I was going to be satisfied with ' near as damn it ' DGT but if i'm spending money I may as well get closer to the genuine article. And a four pot MGTF, no, I may wait till someone gets a V6 in one, & when they do you would have to be a bit silly to consider anything else. Now the advice I have had today hadn't swayed me to much, but thanks to one of the articles you supplied I have been a little more convinced. I think Chris Paddons kit looks very good, in fact better than a turnkey DGT that i saw that you would be able to get a rolled up news paper in the panel gaps! Now i think Chris over come quite a few problems, which he shared with john, who then said he will incorporate those changes into the turnkey cars!. So obviously the kits would still be, how can i put it, iffy! I was once told by someone who had fitted a DNA kit that the kit just fitted straight up & rates as one of the easiest things he had done. I had intended to do one of the DGTs, now i'm going to err on the side of caution. The negative feed back i have had has made me think twice. I had asked john for a build guide, i think its about 150, i wanted this so i could get the MR prepared & i was also aware what was needed. Heard nothing. then a couple of people said he'd gone bust, not interested, only interested in turnkey. The Chris Paddon article seems to bear out the last statement, the first hearsay, the second i think i can confirm.

Kevin

cdwood2010
30-03-2014, 20:35
Hi Kevin,

Sorry if i confused you there somehow, i don't do the kits, but I'm saving my pocket money to buy one. I had a nice chat with Chris Paddon at JAE (i'm in the background in one of the pics!), and a good look at the car, and it is pretty impressive. The missus saw it and said "build one of those". I told her that the panel kit alone is nearly 5000. That didn't seem yo worry her though.

There are some horrible kits out there, so personal referrals are always the best. I'm sure Chris will be all too keen to show you his car. It will likely be at the Kit Car show at Stoneleigh (Coventry) next month.

If you want to PM me some details i will get you in touch with John / Chris.

Regards,

c.

snowtigger
30-03-2014, 21:03
Personally if I was building turnkey cars to a very good standard and getting well paid for it then selling kits to the home builder were there is no quality control and it maybe a very hard kit for the average home builder with limited knowledge or tools to complete to a good standard would be secondary to my turn key operation.

I'm looking at an escort mk1 space frame with glassfibre body it looks quite easy but a rolling chassis with out engine or gearbox is 12 k add 2 k for paint another 5 to 7 k for an engine gearbox ecu exhaust and sundries your into 20 thou.
A turn key version retails as a basic 24 not a bad deal really.
Some of the jh cars are stunning but have had money spent to make them as authentic as possible one even won best car at jae.

You going to the kitcar show Chris I fancy a day out, I will see what the secretary says of my events calendar has to say lol.

cdwood2010
30-03-2014, 21:48
Yeah maybe, got a busy few weekends so I will need to check.

C.

dogrough
05-04-2014, 14:32
Totally agree, I think the JH classic is the answer to a lot of peoples prayers, I did see Chris's car & it was as good as it gets. A kit based on an MR2 has got to be the way to go, & it looks like that Toyota was thinking Dino when it made the Mk2. Also saw a replica interior, again very impressed. My dad got right in to it & has 2 doors with 1/4 lights made, plus a one piece roof panel, not seen either yet but it will be mm perfect, his attention to detail some times has me climbing the walls. He also said he will move the handbrake. Not sure what to do now. Got a number of people willing to bring in Dino moulds from the US to supply themselves with a kit, it all sounds feasible, but I have always been a Dollar short & a day late & I don't want to sink a lot of money in to what's a very small market. End up shelling out the price of a nice real 308 GTS & still end up with a look-a-like, all being it a good one. Making big decisions has never been my strong point, probably end up getting another Cosworth.

Kevin

snowtigger
06-04-2014, 01:08
Shp engineering escort mk1 with cosworth v6 that's what you need then lol.

dogrough
06-04-2014, 18:46
When I saw what they can do with that engine I was amazed & a 2nd hand one is peanuts to pick up. Had thought a while back about playing a round with one & a 3 door shell I had, but thinking is as far as it got. Sold my BBR built RS500 last year as I wasn't doing much with it. Then I came across this site & saw the V6 being put in the MR2 & thought that looks fun. So got an RX300 to break, got a tad rough rev1, & had Midder Woods put in the 1MZ. Fappin master piece as usual & when I drove it home, Peace, no frantic hissing from the dump valve or manic warbling from the waste gate. All that malarkey does wear thin after 50 miles, don't care what any body says. Think the V6 N/A Toyota will suit me fine.

dogrough
27-09-2014, 16:35
Well, feel a complete P - - - K!! my mates, well if you can call em mates, managed to wind me up about the Dino MR2 conversion not be available any more as the guy had gone bust, given up I got the lot. That was just because they knew I was dead keen on it & they said a 355 rep was a better bet.
Me, I think the Dino looks better, plus its got a V6, & sitting the right way. A good replica interior is available etc etc. The only thing I had to agree on was the gap between the door & front wing. The few ive seen for sale you could get a rolled up telephone directory in the gap. Still that must be able to be sorted as Chris Paddons car was spot on. Any way slowly im getting my own back, s - - t in socket sets etc getting even is good fun.

cdwood2010
27-09-2014, 18:45
lol, i can pretty much confirm that isn't the case. I've been in touch with him recently over a couple of projects.

I've done a bit of work for John Hurst over the last few years, he's a thoroughly nice bloke, and last time he turned up my house he brought me whisky and the wife wine and flowers. Needless to say he's welcome anytime!

Chris.

cdwood2010
27-01-2015, 09:49
Just to put the price of a swap kit in perspective........

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/car-advert/ferrari/dino/1972/294058/?utm_campaign=270115&utm_medium=email&utm_source=ccfs-auction&utm_content=car1

snowtigger
27-01-2015, 14:42
Love the dino conversion but prefer the later 328gt or 288gto now if there was a kit for that I would build one hubba hubba .

cdwood2010
27-01-2015, 14:44
Yeah, saw a nice selection at the NEC. Nose bleed nice tho....

C.

Goldy
27-01-2015, 19:35
Love the dino conversion but prefer the later 328gt or 288gto now if there was a kit for that I would build one hubba hubba .
Bloody hell thats expensive for a really bad replica..... It looks nothing like an mr2 ;-)

Just to put the price of a swap kit in perspective........

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/car-advert/ferrari/dino/1972/294058/?utm_campaign=270115&utm_medium=email&utm_source=ccfs-auction&utm_content=car1