Mk3.8 Build Thread

[PaulM]

Well, seeing as I'm actually getting started now i thought I'd start a build thread on this thing, I say thing as I really don't know how its going to turn out but hey, if you don't try in the first place.

So I've got the shell

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg



http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/100_0587.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/100_0589.jpg

got it delivered yesterday and gave it a clean up and a touch of paint to so its not always dirty to the touch.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/08/175.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/08/176.jpg

Then mated the V8 to the gearbox, got 8 bolts in there so its tight together.


http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/08/177.jpg


then I've slung it under the car to see how it fits, which it does

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/08/178.jpg

...sort of.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/08/179.jpg

theres space around the sides so that nice and tidy, just overall length thats the issue

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/08/180.jpg


http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/08/181.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/08/182.jpg

At the moment, one option would be to change it to a 5 speed box which is a bit shorter or to move into the storage areas. As at the moment, one, its too long and two ,the driveshaft angle is i think too much at 17 degrees ish.

I'm waiting the dims on a 5 speed box as this may be a pragmatic approach for most people, as a conversion. With 360 bananas on tap, i dont think a 5 speed box would be a step backwards.

Meanwhile a kitcar company has asked me what could be done in regard to lengthening the MR-S for their next kit project. So I'll be splitting this build into three stages.

Stage-1 Long wheelbase version no cabin intrusion.
Stage 2 Standard wheelbase with no cabin intrusion (may be very shortlived)
Stage -3 Standard wheelbase with cabin intrusion

Cheers for now

Paul

[Tom G]

cor, bloody fast progress!
standard wheelbase cabin intrusion for me, long wheelbase would surely look a bit funny? edit: obviously it would be with bodykit :freak3:

[biteme]

Gordon Bennet, that's progress for you!

Keep it coming at this rate please :D

[Gary Symons]

Gordon Bennet, that's progress for you!

Keep it coming at this rate please :D

Looking forward to the startup video on friday lol. The engine does look a good fit in there. Fingers crossed the 5 speed box fits better for you.

[TheGasMan]

No hanging about for you i see... thats one Mk3 i wont be calling a Hairdressers car.. :thumbsup:

[PaulM]

Got the mother coming to stay for the bank holiday, so i dont think I'll be doing much more this week :idea:

[biteme]

Can't she hold the engine?

[OlberJ]

Hmmm, extended Mr2 Mk3 chassis kit car?

Carrera GT kit i'd bet! Would be awesome.

Fantastic build mate, keep posting and we'll keep helping as much as is humanly possible. Even if it's just a :poke2: of encouragement.

[biteme]

I'm going with a 430 possibly :)

[OlberJ]

The 430 is already out for the Mk2 though and there was a random person who created a carrera Gt out of his either Mk3 or Boxter, cannae mind.

Looked great, just that bit too short.

This would suit it a hundred time better.

[biteme]

The TRD Wide kit for the Mk3 would be awesome with a 250+bhp V8

[TheGasMan]

The TRD Wide kit for the Mk3 would be awesome with a 250+bhp V8

This is the truth.

[Paul Woods]

paul,got to be standard wheelbase with cabin intrusion,you will have acres of space doing it that way.

[PaulM]

If you intrude 120mm, then that will get rid of the gearbox issue and will give you only a very small driveshaft angle of a couple of degrees.

You would need to put a cross-member in and put a new fuel cell in, I guess in the spare wheel well.

[Paul Woods]

defo the way id go paul

[podge]

id cut into the cabin space to, oh hang on i already did :blabla:
nice work there fella keep it coming if you want to get rid of the 6 speed box give me a shout as id like that for mine all the best podge

[Howlin_Mad]

Watching this thread with interest! :thumbsup:

:popcorn:

Kieren

[Whore of Babylon]

Man i wish i had the balls to north/south a v6/v8 in my mk2

[dgh938peg]

WHOA! Superb Paul, I'm 'kin lovin it! Combines my two favourite car things; MR2's & lovely Audi 4.2 V8's!!!

So it's a 360hp jobby? From a 99+ S8 i assume?

[biteme]

I'd guess so... if this can be achieved in a mk2, I know what I'll be asking "The Woods" to do in the next year ...

[PaulM]

Correctomundo on the S8, its actually registered as a 98, but checking the engine code pings it to the 360 banana version,bought the whole car just for the engine, now breaking it down for cash

[nik]

holy mother of all things godlike..!!!
i am now officially a mk3 fan..
loving this swap..just what TB needed..nice one..

[dgh938peg]

So is that a 6-speed S2 box then? or is it the 1.8t unit?

[frisp]

Think I'll subscribe to this one :thumbsup:

[Paul Woods]

definately doable in a mk2 johnboy

I can see this sort of build being popular in the future when the supply of audi motors is better,glued to this one!

[Murf]

Brilliant, cant wait to see this finished!
My tech knowledge counts for nothing but i'd go for cabin intrusion and SWB too.

[aek]

This is another great building thread on TB...agree with mr. Woods that cutting into cabin is the way to go, and you will get better weight front\back with the engine a bit longer to the front. How is the weight on this Audi enginge\gearbox compere to the 1uzfe\turbo box? Anyway, remember all the "sweat and tears" on the car will be long gone when you fire it up for the first time:thumbsup:

[sixafterfour]

Rediculous!
good work though!
i frown upon the audi-ness, but brutal none the less.

[Whore of Babylon]

definately doable in a mk2 johnboy

I can see this sort of build being popular in the future when the supply of audi motors is better,glued to this one!

Man im going to look for a buggerd test engine, perhaps i can use the spare mk2 shell to do some experiments ;)

[dgh938peg]

Rediculous!
good work though!
i frown upon the audi-ness, but brutal none the less.

The difference is the block is approximately 6" shorter than tha 1uz. Paul would be looking at 250mm of cabin intrusion as opposed to 120mm. So it's an audi lump? There was a company near me in Dover (Scotts Motortune) who had a 720bhp one of these babies!:thumbsup:

At the very least Paul can now say his 2 has something in common with Ronin!lol

[Tom G]

At the very least Paul can now say his 2 has something in common with Ronin!lol
If I could photoshop, I would post a picture of robert de niro in a roadster, and it would be very funny.

[OlberJ]

Paul, how far is it from ther front of the engine to the driveshaft splines?

[TheGasMan]

If I could photoshop, I would post a picture of robert de niro in a roadster, and it would be very funny.

Any particular Robert De Niro film or scene your after? Ill give it a go for you :thumbsup:

[biteme]

Any particular Robert De Niro film or scene your after? Ill give it a go for you :thumbsup:

the bit from Analyse This where he's crying lol

[OlberJ]

Maybe the bit from Ronin seein as that's what the feck we're talking about! lol

He never drives the cars though so put him in the passenger seat to make it authentic ;)

[TheGasMan]

the bit from Analyse This where he's crying lol

lol haha ill give it a go..

[PaulM]

Its 700mm olber.

[PaulM]

Quick question to all,does the sump on the 1zz engine sit level with the floorpan of the car?

as there might be a height issue when moving it forward due to the slopey section that houses the hood.

[Paul Woods]

id just remove that slopey section and replace it with a removeable cover from inside the cabin,that way you have good engine access too.

[OlberJ]

Its 700mm olber.

Excellent mate, cheers.

Was measuring up one of the 2's yesterday and was thinking about drivehshaft angles.

That's great news because the 1UZ is 700mm just for the engine IIRC.

[PaulM]

id just remove that slopey section and replace it with a removeable cover from inside the cabin,that way you have good engine access too.

now theres a thought :driving:

[Innocent]

Hows this going Paul? Made any more progress recently? I'm desperate to see if this is a success!!!!

[PaulM]

Back again, my pc went down, so I've been out of contact, currently working on the long wheelbase version first, then onto the cabin intrusion version.
Will post pics next week, as I'm now going on holiday to Turkey for a couple of weeks.
But at the mo its hanging on a new subframe, still got to weld in the suspension location points.
Cheers for now

[loadswine]

We've got to see this, it sounds very intriguing.

[Paul Woods]

LWB version..... NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo!!!!! gotta keep it looking the same as a regular length mk3 for me mate

[PaulM]

That'll be Part2 Paul !

Part 1 is linked to a new kit car that will be released shortly

[Paul Woods]

ah mercialago rep by any chance?

[OlberJ]

Convertable Mercuilago?

Know something we don't woodsy? lol

[nik]

yeah hes been lying about his gender..

[Paul Woods]

I know stacks you dont lol ..... i saw a convertible merchie in the flesh in tunisia...awesome thing but sounded like a big bike engine with no exhaust on when it hooned up the street.We were at a restaurant and it was parked up outside with traffic cones placed around it so nobody could park next to it.... beautiful car but dissapointing sounds from it.

[OlberJ]

Eeeeee, i take it back.

http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/image/2007/Q2/060720071457398646.jpg

That looks better than the hard top sumhow.

Although to be concise, it's a roadster. lol

So is the Mk3 though.

Bollocks.

[Paul Woods]

back in your box,there's a good lad. :)

[loadswine]

Be interested to see this kit then, as I've not been smitten by any of the MR2 kits out there yet.
If I ever had a kit, it would have to be a Ferrari Dino kit, a very good one!

[OlberJ]

There is a Mk1 dino kit Nige.




Although it looks like an S1 elise that's been rear ended lol


As long as it's better than the Mk3 Carrera GT Paul. It makes me want to :cry:

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/10/114.jpg

[loadswine]

I quite like the Dino that's done on a space frame, looks pretty good to me.
http://www.classicreplicasuk.com/index.htm

[OlberJ]

Aye it's proper nice, Alfa V6 in there too, perfect.

Tried to get them to give me some dimensions previously, as per my dino thread, to see if i could fit the bodywork onto a Mk1/2 shell but they weren't interested.

Will need to be made from scratch i reckon.

[dgh938peg]

Eeeeee, i take it back.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

That looks better than the hard top sumhow.

Although to be concise, it's a roadster. lol

So is the Mk3 though.

Bollocks.

I get a stiffy just looking at that!:hidesbehi

Too much info sorry

[PaulM]

I think they're 2-3 months away from the release and then they'res another project to do. Sorry to be so vagued but its not my company/kit sort of thing, so I'm not sure how much they'd want to make peeps aware of, if that makes sense.

[Innocent]

Yay, thought this had gone off the boil!!!

So will the standard wheelbase version be a standard MK3 swap rather than a replica job? Thats what I want to see! Widen it up with an APR kit or replica Monocraft GT300 (originals are rare as rocking horse sh*t) and you've got a real giant slayer. Works well in the JGTC. I'd want a dry sump on it though to help with all that extra weight or you'll end up with a back end slappy happy jappy chappy!!

With the inevitable move of the fuel system to the front on this, how safe would it be, if you end up nose first into a tree for instance...?

[PaulM]

Fuel tank in the front isnt too much of an issue, one could go for a full cell as used on the WRc cars, whcih I beliveve wont leak in the event due to their foamy insides.

mind you saying that I had a caterham thing a few years ago, and in anyone rear ended me ...ooh er misus...., that tank would habe been slammed into my back, and that was just a welded box!

[PaulM]

Ps you buy me a dry sump kit and I'll fit it ! ;o)

[PaulM]

looks a bit more like this as a buck mould

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/buckmould.jpg

[loadswine]

So its another Ferrari replica then Paul? Lets hope its a great one.

[PaulM]

So a quick update

Made a new cross memeber and used the original engine mounts to locate the block, and did the same with the gearbox, so they're both sat on rubber mountings. Noe the playing around with bolt holes to get the correct position !!!!

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/12/127.jpg

Mounted the cross member on to the original engine mounts, but it looks like I'll have to profile the vertical to create a little more room, or it will probably make contact.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/12/128.jpg

Also got some big discs for the front, ( the smaller disc is for a metro turbo !)

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/12/129.jpg

And discs hubs and bottom arms for the rear, these have camber and toe adjustment so should I should bea le to cock up the alignment to my hearts content :)

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2008/12/130.jpg

So this weekend I'm jigging up the suspension points from an original subframe, so they can be recreated on my subframe

[BSM]

Blimey and I thought iwas fast with a 1.5 swap. Good man, would love to come and have a butchers sometime.

[bbarnumboy]

great work so far.

[dgh938peg]

Great Work Paul! :thumbsup:

So looking forward to this one, may inspire me to get mine moving!

[loadswine]

Very intriguing, though the one I'm really waiting for is the original length chassis version, sending the engine into the storage bin area with removable cover. Mind you, if the Audi lump is 6" shorter than a 1UZ, I think that's what Woodsy means when it'll fit the Mk3, it will go in transversly!! :thumbsup:

[PaulM]

Thanks for all the positive comments

BSM pm me and if your not doing much tomorrow pop over

Nigel, I think the main challenges with going transverse will be a suitable gearbox to take the low rpm torque and the width of the Audi engine its damn wide.

but then again if it is possible, PWs' the man.

[loadswine]

Aha, width, that's me thinking 2 dimensionally again Paul, D'oh!
Gearbox, mmm, a tubby one maybe for a transverse job?
This is mega interesting though, so I'm cheering you on from my chair! :thumbsup:

[Paul Woods]

Loving the way this is progressing paul,using the original engine mount pick up points,i like that!

[PaulM]

Cheers paul, thought i'd go for that so at least i know they're structurally sound ! :thumbsup:

[Goldy]

looking good paul, nice work! I can't wait to see this running!

[PaulM]

Just a quick update as its been a while and I really should be getting further on with this, however, I have been delayed due to me being ill since christmas, fitting a new kitchen and the mother in law being quite seriously ill, so all the weekends have been focussed around a 300 mile round trip and hospital visits. Mind you, worse things happen at sea and I have been able to do a couple of things.

From the original audi subframe, I've copied all the suspension points and made it into a crude jig.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture022.jpg

it looks pretty crude but is accurate

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture023.jpg

from this I've started to make the final pieces of the subframe , which will carry the suspension and bottom arms of the rear wishbones.

They look like this, which doesnt look like much at all, but took quite a while to get accurate.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture107.jpg

I've just ordered some more steel plate, so when that turns up this week, I'll get on and finish them off . ( snow permitting)

I also picked up a pipe bender, so I could fabricate my own exhaust center pipes, however this is a pipe bender, rather than tube bender.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture092.jpg

The difference I understand is all down to wall thickness, so when trying to bend thin wall stuff (tube, pipe is a thicker and measure on ID, pipe is measured by OD, I think), it tends to kink, rather than bend, which is a bit of a bugger, so I'm making some new formers to hopefully cure this problem.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture094.jpg

Also looking at the subframe, i'm thinking of making out of tube rather than box, it'll look a lot neater bent, rather than with welds all over the place, so that tube, sorry pipe is also on order for a quick experiment.

Hopefully with my lungs now working properly ( Note to self: when sanding floors, face masks are a GOOD thing). I should be able to crack on a little more.

Keep on grinding
Paul

[Paul Woods]

It's starting to get exciting! :thumbsup:

[sketchy]

I heard a little trick a while back....not sure how reliable it is yet though

if you cap the ends of the tube your forming.after filling it with dry sand they tend not to deform anywhere near as bad, while being bent up in a pipe bender like yours. if your giving it a go...you got nothing to loose, might even work better;)

[dgh938peg]

I heard a little trick a while back....not sure how reliable it is yet though

if you cap the ends of the tube your forming.after filling it with dry sand they tend not to deform anywhere near as bad, while being bent up in a pipe bender like yours. if your giving it a go...you got nothing to loose, might even work better;)

Doesn't work sketchy! we've tried it ourselves. If you fill the tube with sand it is still only 60% full - volumetrically speaking.

The formers for tube are a much bigger radius (usually) than pipe formers. You can buy the bends and elbows and just fab up as needed!

[ukpaisley]

We bend pipes at work, its better to roll the pipe, through a set of rollers, lots of fab shops can do this, but you would need to mock up what you need first to save time.

[PaulM]

Quick update:

I've finished the suspension legs of the sub frame using my crude jig, and copied the suspension points onto the legs.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture109.jpg

Sorry about the hue on the photos not quite sure whats happened, doing the same on the other side, gave me a pair

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture112.jpg

which fortunately, it seems to have worked, as the bottom arms fit right in.

Now iIjust need to weld them into the frame at the right distance apart to create the track I'm looking for and thats the bottom part of the subframe done.

I also had a look at the wiring loom, it looks like it will fit quite nicely, although i think I'll move the battery to create more space where the ECU will sit and move some weight forward, which wont do any harm I guess.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture114.jpg

even on the other side where the fuel filters and returns, it seems to line up quite nicely,

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture115-1.jpg

I've also picked up an inline Walbro, just in case I want to move the tank forward as well.

So its coming on, slow but sure

[Paul Woods]

The best project on TB by a country mile.... fascinating build.

[loadswine]

Outstanding Paul! :thumbsup:

[Torero]

Paul,

I can only concur with the others this an absolutely outstanding build.

Can I ask a question [I may have missed this in the thread] are there any bodywork mods required or does it fit in the original engine space with maybe some cabin intrusion?

If there is a 'stretch' required does it alter the wheelbase dimensions or extend the back end?

Once again, keep posting.

John.

[PaulM]

I'm working on a couple of options, the first is no cabin instrusion, but a longer wheelbase, this extends the bodywork by 8 inches>
The second is with cabin intrusion, but this will be on the same wheelbase , with no external body mods, but will require the loss of the storage bins and resiting the fuel tank into the spare wheel well

[nik]

def the cabin intrusion route for me..would be a real shame to alter the wheelbase imo..
this is a fascinating project..:thumbsup:

[Torero]

Totally agree with Nik, cabin intrusion is best.:thumbsup:

Paul, I am considering a custom modification which doesn't require the convertible roof, therefore, would it be feasible to intrude into the hood compartment rather than move the petrol tank? I appreciate that there are physical constraints but would this make the conversion easier?

[loadswine]

I don't know that you would get a lot by going into the hood area, but moving it all forward and resiting the fuel tank up front would give a super layout for everything.
If you wanted to be really clever, you could form a removable boot space above the gearbox for some storage. Either way a V8 Roadster ! Oh Yessss!

[Torero]

Thanks Loadswine. My train of thought on this was to make the conversion easier and cheaper by not having to relocate the petrol tank. But I do agree with your point about creating further storage

[PaulM]

Hi John,
Unfortunately, you would only gain a couple of inches in height by going into the roof area only.

There's a lot of benefits by fitting a new fuel tank into the spare wheel well, It obviously allows the engine to move all the way forward, it puts more weight over the front axle and it also allows a bigger fuel tank to be fitted, which must be a boon, when its running a 4.2ltr.

Cheers

[Torero]

Thanks Paul :thumbsup:

This just keeps getting better :jump::jump::jump:.

[f426YOUNG]

Am liking the idea of a storage area over the gearbox. As the engine is inline you'll no longer need that odd exhaust setup (i say odd, it's how Fezzas do it) and you could turn it into a rather nice GT car :hmm:

[PaulM]

And I've bought a fezza box, to get a similar sound ! lol

[PaulM]

Quick update,
Amalgamated the horizontal and longitudinal parts of the sub-frame, which now looks like this,

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture116-1.jpg

Which looks like sod all, but the time its taken to get it right seems olike an age.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture117-1.jpg

God I'd love to get a week of work and really crack on, but hey ho.
More next weekend

[OlberJ]

And I've bought a fezza box, to get a similar sound ! lol

355? :mrgreen:

[PaulM]

360 with two stage valve control

[OlberJ]

:popcorn:

[PaulM]

Quick update as I'm off to a wedding

After lining up the sub-frame, Ineeded to extend it back a little to get the wheelbase right so I added some extra pieces, like so

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture118-1.jpg

then when trying to mount the bottom arms I realised the the drop outs, wouldnt allow the mounting of the rear link (which controls toe). I could just get rid of it, but it would be nice to have, so another mod, to the mod, took place.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture119-1.jpg

The little stagger as you can see, allows the toe adjustment bar to come past now.

I also popped the drivehsaft in, to have a look at the angle, which doesnt look too bad, as I have to make an adapter to fit drivehsaft to gearbox, I cant decide, whether just to do that and use it as a an adapter and driveshaft extender, or extend the drive shaft as well AEK stylee Hmmm.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture121.jpg

By this time its was getting on both wife and dogs were geting peeved

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture122.jpg

[OlberJ]

That's a smert dug :)

Subframe's pretty awesome too.

[Torero]

That's a smert dug :)

His name is "Rover" and he's a Boxster.

[rotflmaorotflmaorotflmaoI'm simply on fire tonight.....it's a gift :D :D :D]

[OlberJ]

Looks more like Rude dawg. :cool:

[PaulM]

If we're on a bitch fest this is her big sister

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/tessy1.jpg

[PaulM]

Quick update,
Dropped the subframe and engine this evening, , by removing teh rear bumper the whol unit just slides out, sub frame and all.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture127.jpg

Next is to wire the engine up or rather put the original loom back on and re-fit the oil cooler air con pump, starter motor and alternator.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/03/37.jpg

Then to replace the damaged parts, which aren't too many

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/03/38.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/03/39.jpg

I'll also replace the cam belt as there is a tiny bit of wear on the belt from the damaged belt cover, its only minimal but for £60 I'd rather have the piece of mind of a new belt than to take the risk of a snapping the belt and mashing the valves.

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/03/40.jpg

[Goldy]

mmmm keep the pictures coming and keep up the good work chap!

[SlipSlide]

Looking good :thumbsup:

:popcorn:

[PaulM]

Thought it was time to position the exhaust, this is from a fezza 360.

Welding an L section onto the back of the subframe was the easiest way, it was quite simple to mount and fits in quite nicely

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/03/47.jpg

All of this is on a single subframe so it can be built off car and by removing the rear bumper can be slid into the engine bay. Now thats the exhaust is on, its even easier to move it around the garage too, boon!

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/03/48.jpg

I've also mocked up the centre pipe layout.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture131.jpg

In this gap, I need to fit a cat and a flexi, so its going to be a little tight but shouldn't be too bad.

[OlberJ]

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2005/04/52.jpg

In this gap, I need to fit a cat, a flexi and a GT35R so its going to be a little tight but shouldn't be too bad.

:thumbsup:

[PaulM]

Theres a typo there olber, shouldnt it read " and twin GT35R's :driving:

[OlberJ]

Well i was assuming you're going to have another pipe the same on the other side, no? :confused:

[PaulM]

finished the exhuasts today

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/03/88.jpg

Using a bit of heat made them bend a lot easier, the inside radius still creased a little, but the deformation of the rest of the pipe, which I was seeing previously has disappeared.
The subframe now looks like this

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/Picture137.jpg

its time to start looking for a full car now, if anyone knows of a cheap one, preferably a non-runner, that it'd be cool, nit interested in the body condition either

[Paul Woods]

This thread is the best one on TB bar none right now... simply awesome.

[loadswine]

What a lovely job, this is coming together now. good on you Paul!

[Gary Symons]

That looks fantastic, cant wait to see it running in a car.

[Whore of Babylon]

Gives me a stiffy every time.

Keep the good work coming.

[Torero]

Awesome Paul.:praise2:

If you can't get a MK3 cheap just put it in mine....I'll be happy to look after it for you :drool::drool::drool:

[PaulM]

No worries John, although I may need to charge you a one off rental fee ! ;)

[stevehall]

Wow, I havn't checked in on this thread for a while, some amazing work here.
Where did you mannage to get a fezza box from?

[PaulM]

Flea bay steve, they come up on a regular basis

[OlberJ]

Yes they get swapped out for Capristo systems and the like. Too much money some folks lol

[PaulM]

Not too expensive paid £100 for mine, after all it'll only fit onto one car standard.

[OlberJ]

No, wasn't referring to you chief, was referring to the 360 owners. lol

Supposed they earned it though, who am i to question?

Does it come with those variable exhaust baffles chief?

[PaulM]

Aye it does ke-mo-sab-e ;)

theyre vaccum operated, ie the higher manifold vaccum, the more they open up

[OlberJ]

Noice. Very, very noice.

Did we ever find out what kit this was going to be used for?

[Diesel Meister]

Good grief.

There's another Paul I have to keep away from my wallet lol

Stunning work. Now make a kit for the Mk1 :p

Actually, maybe that would the ideal pair a Mk1 with V6 and a V8 Mk2/3, heheh.

[OlberJ]

I reckon the mk3 with the V8 will be stupendous.

Mk1/Mk2 will be one-off show pieces near enough, it just works so much better in a Mk3.

[millentubby]

This is astounding...I love it.

[PaulM]

I dont see an issue with a Mk2, not sure about a MK1 , dont really know enough about 'em.......(is that blasphemous ?)

[OlberJ]

Purely a space issue.

I'd love if we could offer inline V8's in Mk1's but as you cans ee by Podge's build thread it's fairly major structural work.

With the Mk3 it's more a case of rejiggling stuff around. Pretty sure you could make a really good GT car out of a Mk3 with an inline V8.

[Garbe]

Pretty sure you could make a really good GT car out of a Mk3 with an inline V8.

GT car me arse, that things gonna be an animal, keep up the good work

[Diesel Meister]

Mk3 plus V8 plus Hardtop plus stealthy wheels.

Woof.

[OlberJ]

Oh it'll be an animal but throw in a boot type compartment above the gearbox and you're making the Mk3 an all rounder.

Not a full boot, just a compartment like you get on a proper supercar. Enough for a bag of clothes for your weekend hooning round europe :cool:

[PaulM]

Oh in regartds to kits, it might look a little like this from behind

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/Subarupaul/20022009056.jpg

[OlberJ]

430 spider kit? How does it look from other angles, bob on?

Perfect engine for it for sure.

[Torero]

Looks very much like a DNA kit to me.

Should perform like the original 430 bhp beast:driving:

[OlberJ]

Nah i think it's an F430 rear, bit narrower mind you.

http://www.woodsport.org/forum/images/recovered/2009/03/255.jpg

Or do DNA now do a 430 too?

[biteme]

I'd kill for a 430... I drove my mates one a few times and there's just nothing wrong with it. I can't think of a single way to improve it - apart from making it £10k.

[OlberJ]

Just seen it now, DNA 4firty lol kit.

Looks really good.

[PaulM]

Just got this from ebay, going to give it to the father inlaw first before mounting it so he can create some replica's.
It's an Audi RS4 flywheel and clutch so should fit perfectly and got it for a lot less than the $800 that the 034 ones are in the USA. (assuming it fits that is).
http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/03/193.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/03/194.jpg

http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/forum/images/recovered/2009/03/195.jpg